₦airaland Forum

AdakaBoro8:
but it was igbos that pushed everyone into the tribal conflict online.....
we Ijaws were very tender and soft online, but kanu and his online brothers over pushed us to the wall......... Igbos led by kanu have been lookin for our trouble since 2016......

Let me asked you a question...what did we Ijaws done wronged to the Igbos that they don't want Ijaws to rest..?...

trust me, Ijaw and Nigeria as a whole havery no problem with the igbos.
I can't remember read anywhere that igbos are killing Ijaws or the other way round.
Instead we see our government killing us everyday. The same army that kills innocent people in Ijaw land kills us too in igboland.
That's why this online battle is unnecessary.
We can always ignor tribalism or talk truth to tribalism.

SenatePresdo:
My disposition on ESN stands, and I repeat, why is it always Igbos outside of igboland that complains about ESN, or Don't you see where residents hail them?

Let me tell you, no matter the outcome, ESN will always be a lesser evil to compare what these Herdsmen would do if they weren't checkmated.

Before Nimbo massacre, there was report that even reach the Governor a day before that massacre, that Fulani militias were heading to Nimbo.
Enugu state Gov told the COP of the development, he told the GOV that he can only take orders from Abuja.
The Gov called Abuja, but was put on hold and couldn't reach the presidency.
That was why the Gov cried at the scene of the massacre, because he got the info before hand, but the NIgeria Govt failed him.

Just a little report that ESN were chasing illegal herdsmen away from the bush, Soldiers with their armoured vehicles went after ESN.

Where was those soldiers when Fulani militias were massacring people?

Yes, I had problem with that ijaw guy, and it didn't start today, they boy is always fund of making derogatory remarks about Igbos, whick I asked him to stop, that Igbos don't attack Ijaws like that, he promised to change, only to start again.

So I had to serve him his own stew, there is nothing like tribalism.

I have close friends from different tribes.

But you can't attack my tribe and ask me not to be a tribalist.

I would address your points beginning from the last. You say you went down the path of tribalism because of someone's else tribalism. What a sad excuse. Imagine if you had used your positive energy like some of us do, maybe you could have made a difference. Instead, you were influenced by evil and you ended up with the weakness of tribalism.
Now to your first piont. Go and research, as of last year the southeast was the safest zone in Nigeria.
Before the coming of our unknown gunmen we had Fulani killings and military killings yet less people were killed in igboland than in the west, South or north. Then our Ipob brothers promised us greater peace and suddenly, the south east is the least safe place in southern Nigeria.
I choose the army and herdsmen over ipob. It's better for my enemy to kill me than my own brother to stab me.
They have turned the southeast to a prison. We used to be a free and independent people. Now we must sit at home to please ipob.
Have you asked why the Ijaws and ikweres our close neighbors are not sympathetic to us?

otokx:
We can do Lagos - Ibadan and have double track, we can extend Warri - Itakpe to Abuja up to Kaduna and hand it over to private hands.

I gave no problem if it is built with private money not public funds or worse still borrowed funds.

ppogba:
The fact that high speed rail is only profitable in two countries does not mean it cannot be profitable in Nigeria.

During the pandemic, almost all airlines were making losses and an airline was smart enough to convert it's plane to cargo functions at that point in time. INGENUITY

My point remains valid; high risk. rail is bad business today. true some genius could turn it around but for now, it is a waste of money even in developed nations.

Suicide is very overpowering. All you see is darkness and hopelessness.

Imagine if the owners of this company were part of the Nairaland tribal fight between Yoruba and Igbo would they have achieved anything?
Tribalism is for lazy fools

SocialJustice:
When it is privatised, it will run a lot more efficiently. The FG will inherit the debt. Since they know how to inflate contract cost stupidly, they will bear that burden.

I don't agree with you. True, a private company would run our rails more efficiently, still, it's a very big risk. High-speed rail is only profitable in 2 countries, Japan, and France. the problem was building them in the first place.

ivolt:
I am sure you guys will be shouting wicked government if the railway corporation charges a profitable rate.
Someone has to pay for "cheap" things.

First, it is not cheap. Lagos to Ibadan by rail is more expensive than on road. Secondly, why build rails if they are very unprofitable why not just build roads. Third, the rails were built with borrowed money so we need money to maintain them and money to repay the loan. who advised us to build rails in the first place.
It's very easy to take a loan, but we needed real leaders to chat the path for our economy not the kind of men we have in Aso rock.

SocialJustice:
Lol, privatise the damn money pit. Problem is, instead of even selling to competent investors, they will sell it to fools who can't manage it through cronyism.

would you want to buy a business that makes 1.13billion but costs you 61 billion to run? Not to forget the railway has outstanding loans to be paid

christejames:
Alex, you are your goons should stop giving this gentleman false hope...

elections are not only about winning. Maduka is giving the Anambra people a choice. Of all the candidates, none has more for his people than this man

AdakaBoro8:
shut up,, the industry igbos dominated are industry of drug baronic... industry of baby factory... industry of ashawo work... industry of fake thing sale... industry of ritualism... industry of 419....

My guy, I am an Igbo man. I just want to beg you not to fall into this trap of tribalism. it is terrible that many Nigerian youths have fallen for it while the ruling class rejoices.
I see no reason for these online tribal conflicts.

SenatePresdo:
I'm not surprised again, an Igbo person residing outside igboland with their shallow understanding of what's on ground.

During python Dance, you were coming home for Christmas abi?
When police were killing armless protesters, you were coming home for Xmas isn't it?

When herdsmen were massacring people in Nimbo UzoUwani, you do visit for Xmas.

When ESN said enough is enough, and tackle the Terrorists in uniform head on, you start complaining?

Chai.

See, if you like spend your entire life off igboland, nobody will notice.

That's the problem with many of us Igbos. Now you have divided us into Igbos outside and Igbos within. Cant we Igbos ever discuss without creating divisions.
The killings by the Nigerian army is terrible. There are so many things wrong with the Nigerian Army but ESN did not say enough is enough, they only made it worst. More Igbos die every day since these terrorists came on board. Unless you are deceiving yourself, you would agree with me that Igboland has become much more unsafe since your ESN friends came on board.
Yesterday it was Ebonyi, today, it's Anambra, less than a week ago it was Akunyili. There are killings in Imo every other day. I honestly prefer how things were before the stupidity of ESN.
I believe you are being naive to believe that ESN is the security solution for the southeast.
And my friend Senate Presdo, I can see that you are having issues with an Ijaw man on this thread, when would this tribalism end? Ijaws are bad, Yorubas are evil, hausas are terible haba. The biggest problem of we Igbos is tribalism. we hate everyone. It's affecting our politics. If you know your history, you would understand why Ijaws don't trust Igbos.

noleflendum:
Ibo amaka
Ndi developer
I know they must be involved
Although they have exclusive right in all drug related offenses

Tribalism is a weakness. I don't know your tribe but if you believe in change and progress, you wouldn't give place to tribalism. The Igbos are not your problem, your government is your problem. Our leaders get excited when young men like you miss the mark and begin to fight your fellow Nigerians. This is what they want, you are a pawn in their hands

davinchecodes:
The last attack above was posted in an fb group, that it's unknown gunmen too.

If they should take you to court as a witness is this what you will say?

It's same people like you who claim, but no evidence.
There are 30 plus pro Biafra groups and I know two group who are radical and have claim responsibility for these attacks.

But government got a mission.

We played into the hands of the government. What did you expect? At first, it was interesting like an American film. We were hailing the Esn and unknown gunmen. Now we do not know who is committing the murders anymore.
When some of us warned on Nairaland and Twitter we got abused by fellow Igbos. You guys were quick to call us Hausas or bastards.
Now the southeast has become like Borno. Coming home for Christmas is a risk. Igbo businesses are becoming less competitive and eastern Nigeria is becoming one of the worst places to live in West Africa.
If the military is guilty of these murders, it's because we gave them an excuse. We are making the very same mistake our fathers made in 1966 all over again.

SenatePresdo:
I should go to an Army Barracks and tell them that Biafra is a country, but you can't meet IPOB or ESN and tell them that BIAFRA is an online country.

Nigerians like you are chronic hypocrites, so I'm not surprised.

And biafrans are dilusional. Biafra is a country without a currency, with a ragtag group as its army, with a president in life imprisonment, with a dependent economy... do I go on?
I am sure you were not born during the war in the 60s so you have no understanding of what the Igbos went through. If we make the same mistake because of people like you and kanu, it would be a double shame.
Do you think the terror of unknown gunmen would make buhari agree to biafra? who are we fooling?
As I said, you are an adult so you decide who to follow.
Thanks to people like you, the unknown gunmen have gotten bolder. many of us would not be coming home for Christmas. If this is the biafra you dreamt of then congrats to you.

SenatePresdo:
The thing that is telling you that, should continue telling you.

You don't associate with criminals ba? But you can come online to tell IPOB that the country is an online country, why can't you gather courage and tell them offline?

You are a coward, your opinion doesn't matter.

Actually, it's the other way round. You got it all wrong. My opinion matters. it's your opinion and that of iPod that doesn't matter. The entire world recognizes Nigeria, not biafra or ipob. So you see whose opinion doesn't matter?
The great Ojukwu ran for Nigerian Presidency in 2003. He was buried by the Nigerian army, not by ipob. Kanu the biafran president was picked in a prostitute's room in Kenya. The Kenyans did not recognize his opinion.

And it's a pity you think I am a coward for not going to war with ipod. well if that is what you think, I can't help you.

SenatePresdo:
If you say BIAFRA is an internet Country, go and meet IPOB or ESN and tell them that.

They don't live in my area. And I don't associate with criminals.
I believe you are a grown up. You are old enough to decide your country.
But something tells me that you would need a Nigerian passport and biafran if ever you travel to another country

Olaoluwa112:
Too bad, people's father are being killed like fowls, families are being separated, turning joy to sadness for people.

So how do we expect people whose family are brutally killed to support one Nigeria? Where will the joy come from?

You are free to support anything you wish but then are these unknown gunmen not also our fellow igbos?

Iyaomolere4:
Not in support of the Nigerian army manhandling him but we're missing the fact that it's illegal to don the flag of Biafra on Nigeria soil. Simple as abc, but those soldiers sef, this man na agba now, una for just do am jeje

I am igbo but not in support of biafra. But then I must ask you, how is it illegal to Don any flag in Nigeria.
Is there a law against the biafran flag?
I believe we can't keep living in the past. We should move forward and become a free nation.
People shouldn't be arrested for a flag abeg

SenatePresdo:
Ezigbote Adaka k' ibu, your username is not a coincidence.

BIAFRA is BIAFRA, there is nothing you or any individual can do about it.

There was BIAFRA before Nigeria, and there shall be BIAFRA after Nigeria.

If you truly believe what you just wrote, go and say it in front of a military Barack.
Biafra is only a country on the Internet.

TMKsouth:
We should please the planet though. A balance should be struck.

Who is to decide what the balance should be?
That's why I keep mentioning innovation.
Unless renewable tech becomes cheaper and better, coal and oil would continued to be burnt.
Hence the salvation of our planet lies in the hands of scientists, startups and innovators not government or policies.

TMKsouth:
That's true. The situation with eskom is that it's a monopoly though; produces 95% of SA electricity and it's government-owned. They've been locking private renewable energy innovators out and that's why SA is in an electricity crisis at the moment.

So going back to your initial point, that's why they're doing everything possible to keep the lights on and not plunge the country into darkness - including polluting the air.

Plus something most people don't know is that SA has some of the cheapest coal in the world so Eskom is heavily reliant on it. And just today the energy minister said he's reluctant to stop using it any time soon.

I agree with you. It would be foolish for south Africa to stop power production just to please the climate. But like I said, innovation is the only way out.

Ladumaa:
https://independent.ng/cleric-urges-ohanaeze-other-igbo-groups-to-unite-negotiate-nnamdi-kanu-release/

You think Buhari would ever release him?
I don't think Kanu would leave the prison alive

If only we all can find the strength to say sorry when we are in the wrong.

Shetemi12:
Whether he suffers to defend or not. He has done his part and he will have something called salary to collect. What are you suffering to defend to have salary. NOTHING

My dear some of us here have jobs. Don't think everyone on nairaland is jobless. From your comments it seems you are trying to defend someone who is trying to defend stupidity. And you even did a better job than him

Abagworo:
You are not wrong but it exists only in Anambra State not Imo or Abia. I only got to know about it on Nairaland and later through live discussions. I believe Anambra as a State discriminated against other Igbos which birthed much of the disunity but in recent years the unity has improved.

And now we are discriminating against Anambra. Maybe we should leave out Anambra from biafra

TMKsouth:
It's the big debate. Rich nations industrialised using the very same methods but now developing countries are asked to abandon this course and embrace more expensive renewable energy projects. That's why countries like India, China, SA and others are reluctant to sign up fully to these climate accords until they also industrialise.

I agree with you to a large extent. But we must note that at the understanding of climate change is relatively new.
I also believe so much in innovation. As technology improves, the cost of renewable would fall.
Don't forget that China makes the cheapest solar panels and China is among the top 3 in offshore wind farms.
To me, government has very little to do here. Let's leave it for innovators and business. They would always find a way make this work

BKayy:
Coming from the previous Chairman of SE Governors Forum
Is there anything to share in SE (that's if there has ever been any) and Ebonyi was pushed under the Bus or what?

Anyways, Sir Francis Akanu Ibiam, former governor of Eastern Region, the proud Igbo son that returned his British knighthood in protest of British role in Biafran genocide will be turning in his grave right now.

It is interesting to note that the same Akanu Ibiam denounced his white baptizimal name "Francis" in protest as well.

Finally for those that don't know, Dr. Akanu Ibiam is from Unwana in Afikpo North, EBONYI STATE

I believe the governor is correct. Many igbos look down on Ebonyi and consider them lesser igbos.
Do you remember the time Anambra, government changed the name ofor a street from abakalili steel to club street? You need to read that thead on nairaland. You need to see what fellow igbos said about ebonyi.
Again why is it that you guys get angry with any igbo that doesn't believe in biafra.
I thought biafra was supposed to be a free state with free thinkers. We igbos are a diverse people. The average igbo was not born in the 60s.
A good percentage of igbo were born outside the southeast.

The Buhari government has always been looking for an excuse to take over the east. The unknown gun men have finally given them the excuse.
So all of you hailing the activities of unknown gunmen are a big part of the problem

akinmusi:
Commercialization to the detriment of humanity.

Things humans do to humans.

The alternative may be more gloomy. Would you rather the company goes out of business and plunge the nation into darkness?

JaneYave:
A man that sleeps with the son's girlfriend has no sense too. Infact, men are the main cause of women's silliness.

What is wrong with you? Must you always do this childish men vs women thing.
We see a foolish lady, limiting her chances and making a fool of herself but you are only interested to creating a scene.
Would you employ this girl if she walks into your cooperation?
With her own hands, she has written the worst cv ever.
Would you allow your brother to bring her into your family?

RiceProducers:
Go and source your raw material locally or start consuming a substitute.
IQ is low if you want USD to be low and still consume imported wheat at low prices. IQ is generally low in Nigeria anyway

Please stop advising others. You go ahead and start. You could be the one that would crash the price of flour.
But then, I guess you have not tried to start a business in 9ja. If you have, you would know that this country hates startups.
You can't move goods without spending like crazy on the road, there is always one more agency to pay, 9ja is the world's headquarters of touts and you need to settle them, then gov policy would change at any time and make it worst for the business.
But then. Like I said you just might be the lucky one.