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MaxInDHouse:
Wow! Why did you quote me twice nah?
Which one do you want me to address?
Well let me take it one after the other.



Note that Jesus was addressing his Born Again brothers not every human, and this is appropriate because they're the ones to dispense vital informations to God's flock.
So nobody should say "I saw Jesus" or "Jesus spoke with me" after the Bible book of Revelation! All the information those serving as overseers needed has been completed in the Bible that's what Jesus meant when he said NO ADDITION NO SUBTRACTION" Revelations 22:18-19



Jesus said so many things that needed to be substantiated for clarity purpose!
The promise of God's Holy Spirit is only for the Born Again brothers of Christ. The Holy Spirit will assist them until the Bible is completed but after the completion of the Bible the Holy Spirit will automatically stop revealing further information to them! 1Corinthians 13:8-10
The only thing that the Holy Spirit will forever continue to do after the completion of God's word is reminders {John 14:26} so the Holy Spirit will continue to TEACH Christ's anointed brothers how to apply wisdom in certain situations they might face later in the future that's why Jesus said when this happens the whole congregation will be at PEACE! John 14:27


There is nothing like inspiration today from the true God because all the information we need to survive this wicked system of things has been revealed in the Bible.
In the days of Peter and Paul they only had the scriptures from Genesis to Malachi so God's Holy Spirit continued to give them inspiration until all needed information is completed!
After the completion of all vital information that GIFT ceased! 1Corinthians 13:8
God bless you and may you have PEACE!

If I may get you, the Holy ghost stopped working after the death of Peter and paul?

MaxInDHouse:
WORSHIP is exclusive to only one person the Almighty God!
It entails sacred services like prayers, songs of praise and exclusive devotion!
PRAYERS: is to be made to God alone {Deuteronomy 6:4} that's why you will never see any King in God's arrangement (including Jesus) who will ask you to pray to them, rather they will direct you to make all your petitions to the Almighty God! Matthew 6:9
SONGS OF of PRAISE: is also part of worship so during songs all worshipers of God (including Jesus himself) sing to praise the Almighty God! Matthew 26:30
EXCLUSIVE DEVOTION: in most cases when we have to make certain decisions we must surrender to the will of God who is above all! Luke 22:42

Apart from this three things we must obey Jesus in every aspect of our lives as our Master, Lord and King whom the Almighty God introduced to us as the chosen one! Matthew 17:5

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

So when Jesus rode on a donkey and he was praised by the people of Jerusalem was that worship?
Also, the Father and the son are one, the will of The father for you is also that of the son for you.
Finally what is prayer but simple communication. When Christhe was on earth, didn't the people pray directly to him and pled for mercy and miracles?

MaxInDHouse:
The information is given to both man and spirit that's why Apostle Paul made us to understand that fallen angels (spirits) can also pass wrong information to people {Galatians 1:8} but the demons are all awaiting destruction so they're desperately trying to get more people into the same mess which they've put themselves. Of course they're doing so out of spite!

I don't think the spirit of God got the memo

John 14.26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
The spirit has continued to teach and reveal the word of God to man just like in the days of the Apostles.

Dtruthspeaker:
See, did I not say you had many ( and I'll if them are evil views) you have in mind, which you do not disclose?

So now you are picking anyone you want at your will to run with.

I'll address this one. Now from your evil eye, you see revelation as God "revealin himself to man" WHEREAS GOD HAS BEEN REVEALEING HIMSELF SINCE GENESIS.

Therefore, what is Revelation revealing? The very first verse even clearly told us but of course because of you are evil, looking for evil, you did not see it.

How greatly evil has increased upon the earth

Chief do you even remember my questions.
You seem to be here and there.
My question is, did the word of God end with revelations?
You seem to be saying yes and no at the same time.

MaxInDHouse:
There is a word trinitarians mistranslated to "WORSHIP" the word is "OBEISANCE" which means "TO SERVE"

Jesus is inheriting David's throne {Isaiah 9:6-7 compare to Luke 1:32} the Israelites SERVED King David under the direction from God so in other words they did OBEISANCE to David.
In the same manner all faithful people throughout the earth will do the same thing to Jesus who inherited David's throne but since Jesus' throne is not on earth but heaven {John 14:1-4} all intelligent beings both in heaven and on earth must do OBEISANCE to Jesus {Philippians 2:10} since we are all under God's Kingdom and Jesus has been enthroned as King! Matthew 28:18

But as for WORSHIP only JEHOVAH deserve to be worshiped.
God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Explain the term worship?

Dtruthspeaker:
See, because you have so many views in your mind, which you have not disclosed which view or views you are interested in, so you do not see that I have answered the question.

For your question was "Why Did The Bible End In Revelations, Was That The End To God's Revelations".

And I have answered

"when a Person finishes delivering His Message, He speaks no more.

It is known, when That same Person has a Fresh and Further Message to deliver, He shall do so."

So why the Did the Bible stop in Revelation, because Revelation shows the end of the matter of all the affaurs of this chapter of Life in and of this world plus the introduction of the beginning of A Shiny New World and Life. Fin!

If I may get you, you mean that after revelations, God stopped revealin himself to man?
It seems you are teaching your own doctrine not based on God's Words.
The good people that arrangedon't the bible as we have it today choose to put revelation's as the last. This does not mean it was the last of the books to be writen.
Who decided to make revelations the last book in the bible? Was it God or those who canonized the bible?

MaxInDHouse:
From Genesis to Malachi the Bible revealed to the nation of Israel how life and why the earth is filled with troubles here and there. God also revealed to the Israelites His plans to redeem mankind.
From Matthew to Revelations is where the Bible revealed how the means of salvation was presented and how we can avail ourselves to benefit from the redemption plan.
But the last book Revelations contained the last information Jesus wants to pass to his faithful brothers regarding what will occur during the last days of evidoers, Satan and his demons.
The Almighty God revealed this sacred secret to Jesus who is the faithful witness of God and as Jesus has promised he will use God's Holy Spirit to pass the information to his spirit anointed brothers or Born Again Christians who will continue to teach and guide Jesus' earthly followers until God's Kingdom come.
After revealing the information Jesus said:

 “I am bearing witness to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things that are written about in this scroll". Revelations 22:18-19

If you read verse 20 Apostle John said:

 “The one who bears witness of these things says, ‘Yes, I am coming quickly'"
"Amen come Lord Jesus"

John's own words are those in blue# while Jesus' words are in red#


So according to Jesus himself God is no more revealing anything new or an addition to this information, neither should anyone remove from this information until Jesus' arrival to judge the wicked world!

You can see how anxious John felt on getting Jesus' last words to mankind. John shouted

Amen! Come Lord Jesus!

Therefore the Bible book of Revelation clearly shows that if anyone tells you he hears anything from the spirit realms know that such a person has been demonized! Revelations 16:14

You quoted Revelations 22:18-19. It was a warning to man not to add to the word of God, was it also a warning to the spirit to stop revealing to man?
The commandment was to man not to the spirit.

MaxInDHouse:
From Genesis to Malachi the Bible revealed to the nation of Israel how life and why the earth is filled with troubles here and there. God also revealed to the Israelites His plans to redeem mankind.
From Matthew to Revelations is where the Bible revealed how the means of salvation was presented and how we can avail ourselves to benefit from the redemption plan.
But the last book Revelations contained the last information Jesus wants to pass to his faithful brothers regarding what will occur during the last days of evidoers, Satan and his demons.
The Almighty God revealed this sacred secret to Jesus who is the faithful witness of God and as Jesus has promised he will use God's Holy Spirit to pass the information to his spirit anointed brothers or Born Again Christians who will continue to teach and guide Jesus' earthly followers until God's Kingdom come.
After revealing the information Jesus said:

 “I am bearing witness to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things that are written about in this scroll". Revelations 22:18-19

If you read verse 20 Apostle John said:

 “The one who bears witness of these things says, ‘Yes, I am coming quickly'"
"Amen come Lord Jesus"

John's own words are those in blue# while Jesus' words are in red#


So according to Jesus himself God is no more revealing anything new or an addition to this information, neither should anyone remove from this information until Jesus' arrival to judge the wicked world!

You can see how anxious John felt on getting Jesus' last words to mankind. John shouted

Amen! Come Lord Jesus!

Therefore the Bible book of Revelation clearly shows that if anyone tells you he hears anything from the spirit realms know that such a person has been demonized! Revelations 16:14

You said many things but I would address a few.

But the last book Revelations contained the last information Jesus wants to pass to his faithful brothers regarding what will occur during the last days of evidoers, Satan and his demons[/color]. Is this your personal opinion or did Jesus say so?


Jesus has promised he will use God's Holy Spirit to pass the information to his spirit anointed brothers or Born Again Christians who will continue to teach and guide Jesus' earthly followers until God's Kingdom come[color=#770077] Now you seem to be opposing your own words. If the Holy Spirit continues to teach us God's word's then, nothing changed and there is no end to God's revelations.

So let me ask you, is there any difference in the inspiration of the spirit today and the spirit in the days of Peter and Paul?

shidof:
You said Jesus Christ wasn't the Almighty God the Bible referenced and you still said that he was the Creator. Creator of what if I may ask?. And being with God in the beginning doesn't equate to him being the same as the God.

First, you need to understand the term God.
Clearly, Jesus Christ has always been God.

Isaiah 1.6 For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government shall be upon His shoulder. And His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

He is the Mighty God and the Everlasting Father.

The Almighty is also a God.

So when you say God, you need to be specific. God is not the name of a person but it's a state or a class.

Psalm 82.5-6 Thus says the Lord, Ye are gods and children of the Most High. ... 6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

Even man is a God.
So when you talk about Godhood, it's a vat topic.

peggywebbs:
Yes it is very possible. You have to understand why people get possessed by spirits in the first place. I think sin is what leaves you open for evil spirits. Being born again does not make you sinless. I think we all sin and that is why we should every now and then cleanse our hearts. Ask for forgiveness and even sometimes do personal deliverance to keep ourselves clean so evil does not find a way.

Jesus explained that to be born again means to be born of water and the spirit. Possessed?

If one is born of the spirit of God, can he be

Dtruthspeaker:
You only just presented your reason for asking these suspicious questions and suspicious questions Are usually evil questions directed to harm it's hearers.

And I answered your question!

You didn't even attempt the questions.
But if you are satisfied with your answer, good for you.

freemanq:
The money they have collected before sit at home what have they done with it

Are you saying that businesses should depend on the money the collected before sit at home.
So if I hAve a shop, I should continue to loss money and survive on the income I made before sit at home?
You seem to be heartless

And somebody would tell us to bring our investment to the east.
After working and building a business for years, some lazy unknown gunmen who decide if I operate or not.
We igbos used to have an independent, republican spirit. No one decides how we run our business.
But times are changing. We are becoming something else.
No business man wants to operate in this kind of environment.

Sirheny007:
Let them Cease the fire on civilians but open fire on our politicians.

In Jesus name we pray,
Amen.

That is not how it works. When the elephants fight, the grasses suffer.

Dtruthspeaker:
It is known when a Person finishes delivering His Message, He speaks no more.

It is known, when That same Person has a Fresh and Further Message to deliver, He shall do so.

But when He does not, He will be Silent.



In this evil filled world, we know that abnormal questions are up to 99% malicious and evil and unprofitable.

And God has built in us a mechanism which raises alarm when evil is coming, which presents as "Discomfort".



Then this is a Good Reason for asking questions.

But you have Double Contrary minds! That is definitely an unstable person and unstable people can not be trusted to be GOOD!

I believe so much in freedom of speech. You are free to attack me as much as you want.

But I would urge you to humble yourself and seek answers.

You clearly don't have any answers to my questions.

You spoke about the book of revelation but it's funny you couldn't even mention a single verse that expresses your point.
I get it, we sometimes become aggressive when we don't have the answers but that isn't the right attitude.

Now let's imagine that I am evil and my questions are evil. When the evil Jews asked Jesus questions to trap him, he gave thme answers. He was never afraid to answer a question

shidof:
You said Jesus Christ wasn't the Almighty God the Bible referenced and you still said that he was the Creator. Creator of what if I may ask?. And being with God in the beginning doesn't equate to him being the same as the God.

Yes being the creator does not make him the Almighty God. These are two different things.
And it was the bible that said he was the creator.

John 1.1-5

Colossians 1.15-17 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.

Hebrew 1.1-2 God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;

Not my words but the bible.

Dtruthspeaker:
You have so many evil things running through your mind as you have confirmed with your statement "You said I ask questions for the sake of asking, you might be right... And I would continue to ask these kinds of questions every week".

Therefore, you do not have any GOOD REASON (Bonafide) for Asking these questions.

Which means the only reason you ask these evil questions is just to be annoying and offensive which grounds the same reason why I called you evil in your previous thread.

So now you have confessed that you are truly evil and are here only to do wickedness to men.

Just because you don't have answers to my question does not make them evil.
Let's allow those that have answers to comment.
Don't take it personal.
If my questions are evil, let God be the judge.
I ask questions that would led to deep study.
Blessed are those that hunger and seek after righteousness.

shidof:
So, you're worshiping two Gods based on your

John 10.30 I and the father are one.

lawbabs:
The Bible ended with the book of revelation because the new testament was a written account and testimonies of apostles and brethren that had first hand encounters with Jesus Christ. And these scriptures were written by the inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

God hasn't stopped revealing himself. There are many other books written after the apostles of old but they were not cannonized so that you don't filter errors mistakenly into the Bible. And I think it was right to limit the account of the new testament to the testimonies of those that experienced Jesus Christ directly.

I have read many books by Christian authors that were based on divine revelation. But all of them always bring alignment to the existing canons of the scripture. You cannot have any such understanding that are inconsistent with the word of God.

The Bible ended with the book of revelation because the new testament was a written account and testimonies of apostles and brethren that had first hand encounters with Jesus Christ[color=#770077][/color].

Most of the new testament was written by Paul, he wasn't among those that met Jesus Christmas in flesh. Did men stop having encounter's with Christ?

helinues:
The Bible was written during a period of time. It stopped when almost all the writers are gone/demise

The bible was written over generations. When one prophet dies, a new prophet is called in his place.
Or did God stop calling Apostles and prophets?

lawbabs:
The Bible ended with the book of revelation because the new testament was a written account and testimonies of apostles and brethren that had first hand encounters with Jesus Christ. And these scriptures were written by the inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

God hasn't stopped revealing himself. There are many other books written after the apostles of old but they were not cannonized so that you don't filter errors mistakenly into the Bible. And I think it was right to limit the account of the new testament to the testimonies of those that experienced Jesus Christ directly.

I have read many books by Christian authors that were based on divine revelation. But all of them always bring alignment to the existing canons of the scripture. You cannot have any such understanding that are inconsistent with the word of God.

Did Jesus stop calling apostles, don't we have apostles today? Was John the writer of revelations the last apostle Jesus called?
Who cannonized the scriptures? Does man have the right to remove from the word ofor God?
Please mention some of the other books that did not make it to the bible.
You also stated that you have read other books from divine revelation so let's agree that the Bible isn't the end to God's words. It was man not God that ended things in the bible. God continue's to reveal and all his revelations are equally important.

Dtruthspeaker:
You seem to be asking questions for the sakes of asking questions.

Have you read Revelation for yourself so that you may come to your own Answer to this irrelevant question.

Surely, if you had read it, you would have seen that it shows the termination of this chapter of Life and the Commencement of Another Version of Life.



Do you think "I change not" is temporary?

Or

"Once have I Spoken" is a Joke?



Do you not know the popular quote "man doth not live by bread alone BUT BY EVERY WORD Which Proceedeth Out Of The Mouth of God"?

"man of God"! you mean you live on man of God?

Sir, again I ask you which verse or chapter in revelations indicated that God's revelation's ended in the bible?
You said I ask questions for the sake of asking, you might be right. But then, it's OK to say you don't know the answer. Hopefully, we would get someone that has an answer.
And I would continue to ask these kinds of questions every week.

orisa37:
Prayer is The Revelation till 'I COME BACK'.

COME BACK LORD JESUS IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, THE SON AND THE HOLYGHOST.

HALLELUJAH. HOSANNA IN THE HIGHEST.

AMEN!!!

please explain

Dtruthspeaker:
For asking this, you obviously have not read Revelation as I suspected.



So as to give you a fair hearing and your due presumption of innocence, please state clearly the Truth of who you are, for I deduce here and from our last encounter that you are not a person who ever went to those places called Church, what is your God or Un-God Orientation?

First I have read revelation. But then, you can point me to any particular verse that indicates that the Bible was meant to be God's last revelation. I am open to learn from you.

As for the second part of your comment, I notice that many Christians become uneasy when asked hard questions. You do not expect everyone to ask you those simple questions you already have answers to.
I decided to be asking the hard stuff that would make people study and learn.

shidof:
but some people believe Jesus is the same as the Almighty God. Besides, how many God do you even think we have

You asked a good question, how many God do we have?
There are many Gods and Jesus Christ is one of them. His father, the Almighty God is also one.
We do not worship all the God's. We only worship Jesus Christ and the Almighty God.
Philippians 2:10

obonujoker:
Everyone one the planet earth has come across or heard about the number called "666".

" 666" is described , as we Christians know it, to be the number of the final Antichrist from Satan. This number would be imposed on the world sometime in the future.

What's a vaccine? A vaccine is a type of medicine that trains the body’s immune system so that it can fight a disease it has not come into contact with before. Vaccines are designed to prevent disease, rather than treat a disease once you have caught it. [i(https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/how-do-vaccines-work)[/i]

Some people are of the opinion that the vaccine used for the infectious disease (Covid-19), is the same as the mark of the beast, 666. The argument? it is because it is being imposed that without the vaccine certificate, a lot of restrictions is/are going to be applied to various facets of life

However does that argument prove that the vaccine is the mark 666? What does the bible say about 666?

Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Studying this verses, we'd see that "666" will have to be given on the right hand (Allegiance) or forehead (Loyalty).

Reasons why the covid vaccine is not the mark of the beast "666"

1. The Antichrist and the false prophet must have been revealed

Except you can prove that the Antichrist and the false prophet are around and running the show openly, then the vaccine is not 666.

2. The mark 666 is a willing acceptance to be on the devil's side

To receive the mark 666, the collector does it willingly and swears allegiance to the devil; and it won't be something hidden, you worship the devil and collect the mark, you don't worship, you die.
The mark 666 means, I belong to the devil.

Revelation 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.................>
13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed

3. if Covid Vaccine is the mark 666, then pretribulation rapture theory is wrong as always

Pretribulation rapturists believe that the church won't be around when the Antichrist is revealed, yet, they are still saying that covid vaccine is "666"... Isn't it time they study the scripture well, and stop propagating fear?

However, I'm off the opinion that one shouldn't rush to take the vaccine, not because its 666, but because of its safety, does it really work, have the founders of the vaccine actually taken their shots?

I believe God more than men.

Pretribulation rapturists believe that the church won't be around when the Antichrist is revealed[color=#770077][/color]
Is this biblical or the teaches of man?
Like you say. It's time to study the scripture very well.

donnie:
Well, you're not too far from the truth.
For example Amelia Bassano wrote all of shakespeare's plays, but of course they didn't give the poor black woman credit. Amelia Bassano was born in 1569 into a family of Venetian Jews who were court musicians to Queen Elizabeth I. At about the age of thirteen, she became mistress to the fiftysix-year-old Lord Hunsdon, Henry VIII’s reputed son by Mary Boleyn.

As Lord Chamberlain, Hunsdon was in charge of the English theatre and would become the patron of the company that performed the Shakespearean plays. Amelia lived with him for a decade, during which time she also had an affair with the playwright Christopher Marlowe. When she became pregnant, Amelia was exiled from court and next surfaces as the mysterious ‘dark lady’ in Shakespeare’s sonnets.

At the age of forty-two, she became the first woman to publish a book of original poetry, employing linguistic features resembling the later Shakespearean plays. Amelia died in poverty in 1645.

I have learnt to study and research before I comment hence I spent the last hour reading about Amelia.
True she was called the dark lady still that does not make her a black woman.
She was of Italian origin. Note, Italians are mostly darker than the english. It is not proven if she was of African decent.
Secondly, saying she wrote Shakespeare's books is an unproven conspiracy theory.
Unless you have academic evidence, you shold rest your case

Janosky:
Your "I am" is whose servant @ John 20:17 & Acts 3:13?
In heaven your "I am" is whose son @ John 8:38?

Greek lexicon John 1:1, John 4:24, John 14:1, According to Jesus Christ and John, is Jesus Christ ho Theos the God?
There are how many "I am" in John 8:38,58?
Acts 17:24 and 1 Corinthians 8:6 & Ephesians 3:14-15, did Paul teach you Jesus is Creator?

Sir I don't understand a word you wrote. Please explain. You even made refrence to Greek, do you speak greek?

You point to one book and claim that Europe was civilized by blacks. I guess Williams Shakespeare, Charles Dickens, Victor Hugo and Leo Tolstoy were all blacks?

My dear forget Jehovah's witness and do as Paul taught in Philippians 2:12 work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; You have time to point out the faults in others' religion but would you be bold to mention your own church and allow others point out the weaknesses of yours?

shidof:
I have heard a lot of Christians always equate Jesus Christ as God Almighty but I've a question that has always been disturbing my mind.
Who was in charge of the world before Jesus was born, who created Adam, Abraham, eve and all the other creature before Jesus was born?? God is immortal but Jesus died and it was even through the hands of Human beings. So, what are the reasons to justify that Jesus Christ is still the same as the God Almighty who wasn't born by anybody and he didn't give birth to any one either.

He isn't the one the bible refers to as the Almighty God but much of your facts about him are not correct. Remember in John 8.58 Jesus Declared, before Abraham, I am.
Also in John 1. 1-5 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him, nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
Christ was the creator.
Finally, his life was not taken John 10.18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
I hope these help

Ever8090:
The Bible is the conclusion of events at a some point, like during the time of Adam and Eve,Noah, Israel in Egypt, freedom of Israel, the promise of the coming of the Messiah, the arrival of the Messiah his works,death the spread of his message to the gentiles. All this were events that usher in other events and now we are in the period of waiting for another events which is the second coming of Christ.

God still reveals himself or still works with people but in a different way base on the era we are in today,..

First, How do you claim that the bible is the conclusion of evens? Is it your personal opinion or did God reveal it anywhere?
Secondly, If you say that God still reveals himself or still works with people, does that not counter your first point? If God still works with people then the bible can't be the conclusion.