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Dtruthspeaker:
So, do you say that Genesis 6:3 and John 1:4 are not the same?

There is zero link between the two.
One says,
And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

And the other
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.


Oga are you sure you read these before posting.
Please calm down take your time and read.
How does the first verse explain that Jesus Christ is one of the 3 spirits of man?


And again, what is the 3rd spirit you are talking about?

Dtruthspeaker:
😳What kind of person are you? Is Genesis 6:3 not about God being with us?
And does Emmanuel not mean God with us? Even in primary school we were taught this! Ahan!

Two different things, you claim that Christ is one of your spirits. Genesis 6:3 says nothing about that. Zero link no matter how hard you force it. Now tell us your 3rd spirit please.

Dtruthspeaker:
You do not know Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 Who "Emmanuel" is? (Matthew 1:23/ Isaiah 7:14)

First, Genesis 6:3 did not mention Emmanuel. Also, are you saying that Jesus Christ is your spirit?

MaxInDHouse:
Pharisees also called Jesus false nah!


This thing really pained you o!🤔
So you are desperately seeking ways to discourage this person but i will stop responding to your blabbing. Proverbs 26:4

Lol, now you are acting like your age, making childish jokes.
I only said I want to discuss, but you have been so nervous. Take it easy, bro. If he is yours, he is yours. I am not in the business of marketing. If you are uncomfortable with your sheep, timilehin007 discussing with me, just tell me, and I will not push. Happy now?

Dtruthspeaker:
Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 shows Emmanuel leaves us and goes back to God that is why we die and when we die.

Have you figured out who the 3rd one is?

I don't even understand anything you wrote. As for your third spirit, it is your doctrine so teach. I am listening.

MaxInDHouse:
You keep begging people to make you their TEACHER so you can't deceive them they know you are seeking followers for yourself.
On the other hand i am calling people to the organization teaching me so there is a big difference.
You can't direct whoever decides to learn from you to any church because it's all about what you fabricated all by yourself {John 8:44} but i will tell them to ask for the Kingdom Hall of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES anywhere they are!

My boy, I only asked for a discussion not to teach him. I am not a marketer like you. We are so different.
The goal is not to derect people to hell through your lies, I don't know why you are excited about directing people to an organization that destroys them spiritually.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus always say what he sent us out to preach is like a marketing work {Matthew 13:45-46 compare to Revelations 22:17} and it's a few that will find it appealing {2Thessalonians 3:2} so there is no doubt about that.

You make my point, there is always someone for every doctrine no matter how false it is

Dtruthspeaker:
It is even 3 spirits that is in man, but let me start with this 2 clear ones.

Take your time to consider the scriptures that I have pointed out.

Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 shows a Spirit given by God to man for man to live on earth which goes back to God and we "die".

Revelations 20 shows that man is taken by Mr death, hell and water when he dies and is imprisoned there.

And 1 Corinthians 2: 11, not show us that the spirit of man is also in us also.

So, is the the same spirit that has gone back to God that is still in death, hell and water?

Definitely it is not the same spirit.

The spirit cannot be both in God and still be in death, hell and water, only to end up going back to face God, like an accused taken to court to face the Judge.

If the spirit is with God, then it cannot and will not be facing God.

So, man has these 2 spirits, even though it is actually 3 but go and check and see if you would not see these 2 spirits.

So according to you, at death, one of your spirits goes to God, one goes to jail and where does the 3rd one go?

FreeStuffsNG:
Chief of Staff is a civilian. In fact, a civil servant who is in service of civilians just like the Ambulance paramedics, Healthcare professionals killed by same Israel in Gaza.

The Gaza genocide is still ongoing and the US is complicit by giving its proxy weapons for genocide in Gaza.

Oga listen to yourself some times. You mean the chief of staff of a terrorist organization is not a terrorists but an ambulance driver. Ok, we hear you.

MaxInDHouse:
You think it's that easy to speak what is appealing to people?

Go ahead and convince him to forget what he read! Matthew 13:4

So yes everyone has what appeals to him, if you meet someone who your message appeals to, the work is done. I am in marketing so I understand that every product has a market. Even bad products can be marketed.

MaxInDHouse:
Chai!

So someone asking for the church where i learned what he heard becomes my disciple automatically!

Which church you dey go?

You will not answer but you are always crying that you want to teach people while i keep directing people to my church (Jehovah's Witnesses organization)

So between you and i who is seeking followers for himself? Act 20:30

Lol
I never casked for a follower, just for a discussion, don't be scared my boy.
Be calm

Dtruthspeaker:
Does John Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 not show which Spirit is God and goes back to Him?

And does 1 Corinthians 2: 11, not show you that the spirit of man is also in us also therefore we can count that there are 2 spirits in man?

And does Revelations 20 not tell you that man remains captured in death until death releases him into God's Court?

Or did the bible say that the spirit that goes back to God was also swallowed and trapped by death?

Or did the bible say that the spirit which returneth to God cometh back again from Him to be judged?

These things are clear, you are just fuelled by your wish and hope that you are joined with God, therefore God would not be able to judge you. So you do not want to see that when you die, God separates from you. Or to put it another way, dying means that God has separated from you which is what Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 is saying.

Wait oh, are you saying that man has 2 spirits, one goes back to God at death and the other goes to jail as you say. This is the first time I am hearing this please throw more light

timilehin007:
Pls, which church do you worship. I think your explaination seems more meaningful and worth paying attention to, I want to know more. Which is your denomination amongst the churches

MaxInDHouse has been quoting you to me as his new disciple. So I felt it would be interesting to understand your point of view and involve you in discussion if you feel like.

MaxInDHouse:
I have gotten a reasonable audience and that's all we are sent to do! Luke 10:6



So it's OK continue with your folks!🙂

Good for you, you have someone who buys what you sell.
Let me start a little discussion with your new friend

sonmvayina:
This is the exact same question I asked BlueAgent, and he has not answered. Now he is saying I should go to another thread to find out.
Don't mind them, man is God's spirit dwelling within a physical body made from dust of the earth. When the spirit enters the body it becomes a living soul.
So Body + spirit= living soul(man).
At death the soul is split, the body is buried for it to become one with the earth and the spirit returns to God who owns it. (FYI: the spirit is pure and does not need to be saved from anything). Most times when the Tanakh speaks of salvation it is always from physical danger.
BUT,
My own additional information.
The spirit that God sends to the body (psalm 104:29-31) is the same image and likeness as God, just as the body is the same image and likeness as the earth. Therefore it is safe to say we are God's having a human experience. Or how I love to put it. Man is the form through which God experiences his creation in multiple ways.

I don't see why I disagree with you

MaxInDHouse:
See below



These are people we are searching for {Luke 10:6} not just arguing aimlessly with people like you! 1Corinthans 9:26

So continue with your folks.

Well let me just teach you no need to argue.
Jesus Christ taught that both the bad and good will be resurrected after they hear His voice.
So we learn that the dead will hear His voice and then both good and bad with come out of the Grave.
I hope you learn from this

DeltaFire:
WHY IS THE COLONIZER CONCERNED THAT AFRICANS MUST FOLLOW HIS THEOLOGY BUT HE IS NOT CONCERNED WHEN IT IS CHINESE, INDIANS AND ARABS. THE BIBLE EXPLAINS IT.
Christianity for Africans, Facebook
23 November 2025


There is an unmistakable global trend happening and it concerns Africans and other Black people. We are beginning to question the colonizer’s interpretations of the Bible. We are questioning the colonizer’s Theology and wondering if it is correct. Frederick Douglass whose mother was raped by either of her White slave-masters then became pregnant with him, knew that the god of the oppressor cannot be the same as the God of the oppressed – and it is easy to understand this.

We Africans have been so conditioned not to think, and not to ask questions when it comes to matters of Religion. We just follow the colonizer’s rituals. We kneel when he says kneel. We make the sign of the cross when he tells us to do so. We use their beads called rosaries because he invented this jewelry for himself. We lie that Christmas celebration is about the Messiah because the colonizer lies about it. None of these things are biblical but we think that there is safety in numbers – that as long as millions of us Africans follow the colonizer’s ways then Yahuwah God is duty-bound to accept us and He must open Heaven for us to enter. It seems that the colonizer cast such a strong spell on Africans so that we disobey Yahuwah’s commands like the one in Proverbs 3:31 where He tells us: Envy thou not the Oppressor, and choose NONE of his ways. That command is for our SAFETY and is a WARNING!
Our forefathers did not have this information, but we today do. We can choose to disobey Yahuwah God and reap the consequences. What we know is that the True Sheep, the Elect will hear His voice and obey. Our messages are to go out into all Africa and everywhere in the world where Black people are, but they are for the ELECT because they are the ones who love Truth, love Yahuwah God, and their soul wants to obey Him because He is wiser than they, and He is GOOD.

The colonizer is aware of what the Bible says so his work is to keep Africans in disobedience. The colonizer twists Scripture and makes the African feel that we are showing Hate if we do not follow the colonizer’s ways. He will say that we are sowing Disunity in the body of Christ (White Jesus). Now, it is for the African to either follow the colonizer by worshipping his ways, or the African can follow the Messiah who commands: Envy thou not the Oppressor, and choose NONE of his ways. (Proverbs 3:31)

There is a reason why Africans (and Black people) are targetted by the colonizer whereas Chinese, Indians and Arabs are left alone in peace to worship whatever gods they want to. This fact we can all see. But, what is the Reason?

The Bible tells us the Reason so that we do not need to guess or speculate. The biblical Israelites are a BLACK Nation and they are JACOB. 2 Esdras 6:9 states: “For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.” Therefore the colonizer knows that Jacob will not be oppressed for ever. Therefore the colonizer targets Black people to make sure that we keep on worshipping the colonizer’s misinterpretations of the Bible and so never return to the biblical Messiah, a BLACK Messiah who is against the oppressor and Who sets captives free, so that the Restoration of Jacob/Israelites described in Deuteronomy 30 is prevented or at least is delayed.


Africans, let us obey Proverbs 3:31 and Deuteronomy 30, and know that 2 Esdras 6:9 is Yahuwah God’s will so it shall surely come to pass. Amen.



#Yeshuanity4Africans (formerly #Christianity4Africans)

#BlackMESSIAH




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Oga follow what ever you will. The same whites globalized freedom of religion and believe.

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not see that there are 2 spirits?

One that is Emmanuel, Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 which is God and goes back to Him

And the other which is the spirit of man aka soul that is in imprisoned by death who is to be relocated to the place of damnation or to the new heaven and earth that replaces this one.

You are not getting my question.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 states, "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
So my question is, when you mentioned imprisonment, are you calling the return to God imprisonment?

Dtruthspeaker:
Revelations shows that death vomits us up out int God's Court for judgement.

So, the death is exactly like DSS and police custody where all accused are first held and detained before being taken to court

But it is written that at death, the spirit goes back to God is God's présence the DSS and police custody?

mytrugistslog:
It is necessary to have a conversation around this truth now. There are mischievous religious narratives teaching some people that they can continue sexual activities after death.

Some were taught that after having sex with various women here on earth, they still have some virgins waiting for them in the afterlife if they can fight for their god on earth by wrecking havoc on "unbelievers"

Wake up from your slumber! Sex is only restricted to this earth realm.

The reason you can crave sexual pleasure and engage in sex is because of your flesh (your physical body). However, when you die, you don't go to the afterlife with this physical body - you go as a spirit.

The Lord Jesus explained something important after the religious leaders of the time came to Him to ask whose wife a woman would be in the afterlife after marrying various men on earth.


"Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven." Matthew 22:29-30

Whether you are in heaven or in hell, there's no room for marriage and sex as we know on earth, because you now carry a different celestial body that is different from the one you have on earth.

So, a religious narrative teaching you to expect virgins for more sexual pleasure when you die is a false one. Also, everyone should go to the uneducated fanatics not on the Internet and teach them these things too.

Jesus is Lord.

Please teach only what has been revealed not your opinion. You don't know if there will be sex or not because it was never revealed to you.
But then, let me ask, do you think we would lose our sex organs at resurrection or will it be rendered useless?
Which do you think it is?

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MaxInDHouse:
The judgment in this context is not what most people think rather it's about the 1,000 years reign of Christ.
During that time mankind will be given a thousand years to live without anyone getting sick or dying, no criminals will be allowed because Christ will rule the earth using faithful people to handle matters. Revelations 20:5-6
Some people will still die during Christ's thousand year reign not due to oldage or sickness but for their unbelief after living for just 100 years! Isaiah 65:20

Before Jesus start his rulership there will be resurrection throughout the earth but who and who will be resurrected?

Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice  and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment. John 5:28-29

Note that Jesus didn't say it's Christians that will have life or unbelievers that will be judged rather he said it's about good deeds so by that time Christians will be teaching people everywhere all the good things Jesus taught in the Bible and many will respond positively but there will be people who will not agree as they will insist on practicing their former religions even when they realize that such religions no longer exist that's why they will start criticizing the Christians but after 100 years they will die without sickness or oldage.

So who are the RIGHTEOUS and who are the UNRIGHTEOUS?

The RIGHTEOUS are those who has been declared righteous by God for knowing and practicing pure worship in their past life {Hebrews 11:4-34} so they will be raised back to life so as to have their own benefits under Christ's reign! Job 14:13-15, Daniel 12:13

The UNRIGHTEOUS are people who don't know God's laws but lived by their own conscience {Romans 2:14-15} God will remember them and bring them back to life so that both faithful servants of God in ancient times and Christians may teach them how to practice pure worship.

The last and the least are the WICKED who don't care about God or virtue they lived as if there is no God {Psalms 10:4} and treated their neighbors wickedly so such ones will never be allowed to come back they will rotten in their graves forever! Psalms 9:17

and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment
John 5:28-29

You quoted it, all shall hear His voice and all will be resurrected both good and evil

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sunnyfats:
From my research

Hebrew 9:27 "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement

This is not the final judgement tho

See the following proof

John.5.28 - Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice
John.5.29 - and come forth--those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.


Dan.12.2 - And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, Some to everlasting life, Some to shame and everlasting contempt.



From the bible, we understand that
HELL is a place of torment
HELLFIRE is like a lake of fire in a city called hell
Later on, the whole of hell will be crushed into that lake
Rev.20.14 - Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Those who die with bad character and records are going to hell (not yet the lake of fire)

Im still researching on where the righteous ones go....so I am open to learning too..

John.5.28 - Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice

So the dead will hear the Word of God. What message will Christ have for the dead. Again, this shows that the dead do hear.

So there is the talk of heaven or hell after death but then the book of revelations talks about all rising from the dead to face judgement. Which is true?

dominique:
Man city pushed to 3rd on the table but we know the current occupants of the 2nd place on table are just place holders. Dem go still pursue them commot.

Are you fighting for second place or for the title?

Sonnobax15:

Staff wey know whatsxup.

He knows appreciation is the application for more...

Now tell me why such a staff won't be considered for promotion should the time for promotion comes?

He is lucky he doesn't work for me. The only way to get my approval and promotion is through excellence in the job.

MaxInDHouse:
I have told you countless times that you have no right to correct an adult like you because from age 18 and above each person has the right to choose whatever they want to do or believe.
That's the work of the authority {Romans 13:3-4} not individuals because the authority has weapons of fear to punish whoever goes against their rules and if anyone feels he is not pleased with their system of rule then you are free to move to another place! Matthew 10:23
You can only correct your own child who is still under your supervision and adults who submitted to you as their teacher but claiming you want to correct adults like you who never see you as their teacher is presumptuous!🙂

Only a fool is above correction

MaxInDHouse:
Contradicting yourself again.

If everyone is free to choose what is the essence of you (human) thinking of how to correct humans like you?

Nawa oh you are again confused. Are you saying that because people are free to choose, we shouldn't correct when we see them make wrong choices?

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MaxInDHouse:
Let your students put what you are teaching them into action so that people around you can see that truly one or two persons are learning from you nah!

That's the import of what Jesus said:

Wisdom is justified by her children! Luke 7:35

Everyone is free to choose what they put into action. Ours is to correct and help. We have also seen how your organization is putting falsehoods into action. The point here , just because you put wrong doctrines into action doesn't make it right.

No

MaxInDHouse:
Double response to a single post?

Wisdom is justified by her children! Luke 7:35

Sir, don't be in pain because of a double response. A double response only adds clarity. Remember, you may not be the only one reading this, it is our duty to help and teach not only you but everyone who may need guidance or who may be confused about the discussion.
So if you are in pain sorry but I can't do anything about that.

MaxInDHouse:
Meaningless to Pharisees but meaningful to Jesus.
Each human will score himself or herself high grades in this case but by the time you cohabit with your fellow adherents of what you are claiming then we will know if it's truly or falsehood.
So put what you are teaching to use among your fellow worshipers let's see it's outcome!

These 3 verses best describe your organization.

Matthew 23:13: Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.

Matthew 23:15: Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.

Luke 11:52: Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering.

You literally teach your people that they don't qualify to enter the kingdom of heaven.
And like the pharisees, you do great missionary work, knock on thousands of doors only to make innocent people twice as much a child of hell as you are.
And lastly, you have replaced the key of knowledge with falsehoods and guesswork and made-up fallacies.

MaxInDHouse:
Meaningless to Pharisees but meaningful to Jesus.
Each human will score himself or herself high grades in this case but by the time you cohabit with your fellow adherents of what you are claiming then we will know if it's truly or falsehood.
So put what you are teaching to use among your fellow worshipers let's see it's outcome!

It's good you mentioned the pharisees because like you, they twisted the word of God. You guys are modern day pharisees. And we have seen the outcome of your teaching. It's only falsehoods and wickedness l.

MaxInDHouse:
Put your teaching to action and let all see what fruit it will produce! Matthew 7:16-18

This is another meaningless statement. I try to put the scriptural teachings in action everyday and their fruits are wonderful. Unlike your baskets of deceit. Do you see the difference?