garfield1: I said at least 50%.by the way,he isn't from Enugu and Enugu is pdp strongest state.there are a lot of igbos that will not vote obi
'You are delusional, who in igbo land will not vote for obi, Christmas is coming, all villagers will be educated on the way forward , the only snag is that Obi will be just like ZIK, he is more of pan Nigeria
SmartyPants: My responses here indeed show that I am a hypocrite. A shameless hypocrite for that matter. I think Tinubu is a criminal because he used bullion vans and also mentioned in a pandora accounts but I will however stalk Obi that came out to clear the air why he was mentioned and not Tinubu that called it a bluff. why should I be shameful?
If you give a fund manager 100 naira to manage for you and he returns 40 naira to you and says it was because of inflation won't you have him arrested? Oh...let me guess, you actually know how these things work.
Am I being shameless by focusing on the profit aspect of it in order to divert attention from the general inflation caused by the government that I brought in?, Peter Obi's honest decision to take the people's money and put it into a company, in order to enrich the state. An investment that had almost doubled it invested capital in 2019 .
Am I not entirely a shameless and silly boy to engage you when I was supposed to be productive to my family elsewhere? Gosh! this stipend from Tinubu is counter productive I swear
SmartyPants: Your last line shows that you still don't get it.
Are you and I supposed to be online defending any of them or are we supposed to be thinking of how we can get all of them out?? Why should you defend Peter Obi's wrongs? Do you owe him or does he owe you??
Now:
1. During end SARs, he was vocal hence the birth of Awkuzu SARS propaganda/allegation during his tenure.
Is that propaganda or fact?? Was he not the governor at the time of the massacre? Was the notorious James Nwafor not known to Peter Obi?
Did Peter Obi say anything about it?
That is the question you should answer, not beating about the bush. Dear fellow youth, Why see A and call it B? Remember, Obi owes you, not you owing him some duty to twist the truth in his defence.
2. Using SARs against his political enemies? Your own propaganda I guess? I have never heard of this your own version of campaign of calumny.
That you don't like the truth doesn't make it a campaign of calumny. Such a comment shows that your intentions are not pure. Instead of asking for evidence, you resort to insults as a defence. Again, why? What is motivating this level of defensiveness?
Well, this is information in the public domain:
Peter Obi himself, had a case to answer before the End Sars panels:
You don't even know the person you are exerting yourself to defend. How genuine is your defence then??
3. The aid was caught with N250M, for you to say unknown purpose shows that you have refused to believe his own side of the story. I believed his own side of it.
Lol. Just like that? Someone withdrew 250 million in cash, as against ethics and the law and you say you believe him without any shred of proof? People like you are the problem of Nigeria honestly. Becasue he may happen to be our kinsma you refuse to acknowledge that what he did was indeed a textbook corrupt practice, but if Tinubu says he is not corrupt, you won't believe that one.
Wake up!
4. A man who ploughed state funds into his private enterprise? Would you rather he had invested it into something he did not trust?
I would rather he conducted himself with integrity, and use the money for what it was meant for. And if he must invest, he ought to have invested following ethical principles.
Besides, when you talk about trustworthy investments, is it that you don't know that the investment made lost value by more than 60%?? A complete and total wast of about 7 million USD that should have been used for infrastructural developments.
But that is okay, since anyone can make an economic mistake. What is important is that he did not act ethically!!
Try to be sincere.
See, I know the truth in all the aforementioned, I however extremely busy at the moment to engage you in them as they all cock and bull stories.
Are you and I supposed to be online defending any of them or are we supposed to be thinking of how we can get all of them out?? Why should you defend Peter Obi's wrongs? Do you owe him or does he owe you?? I am not defending him but stating what I know about him.
Is that propaganda or fact?? Was he not the governor at the time of the massacre? Was the notorious James Nwafor not known to Peter Obi? Police or SARs is not under the command of the state government but federal government , get your fact right. Did Peter Obi say anything about it? Yes of course, He even abandon his trip for that, will send you the link to that when I'm less busy
Lol. Just like that? Someone withdrew 250 million in cash, as against ethics and the law and you say you believe him without any shred of proof? People like you are the problem of Nigeria honestly. Becasue he may happen to be our kinsma you refuse to acknowledge that what he did was indeed a textbook corrupt practice, but if Tinubu says he is not corrupt, you won't believe that one.
Wake up!
You can think of what you want Tinubu bullion vans were there for all to see. He wears corruption as a cloth. Peter Obi is not my kinsman and that's final.
I would rather he conducted himself with integrity, and use the money for what it was meant for. And if he must invest, he ought to have invested following ethical principles. if he had done something bad, He would have been invited by the law enforcement agency let it be that he was acquitted but uptil today, nobody has sued him for it, meaning that he did not break the law.
Besides, when you talk about trustworthy investments, is it that you don't know that the investment made lost value by more than 60%?? A complete and total wast of about 7 million USD that should have been used for infrastructural developments.
But that is okay, since anyone can make an economic mistake. What is important is that he did not act ethically!!
This is the most stupid thing I have ever read in my life, I did not expect you to say this, reason being that your own money in the bank has lost even more value than that.
The money lost value because it was invested in naira in Nigeria, no thanks to APC led administration.
that should have been used for infrastructural developments. Invest in infrastructure like what? who told you that he did not invest in infrastructure, you use money to make more money
SmartyPants: I thought that was the point? That we don't want any of those who are from the old establishment? In reality Peter Obi has spent his entire career in AGPA and PDP, and while there is some good that he did, he maintained the same pattern as the establishment.
Why do we pretend??
A man who kept mum when SARS rained havoc on the youths?
A man who used SARS against his political opponents?
A man whose aide was caught with a quarter of a billion naira in cash for unknown purposes?
A man who ploughed state funds into his private enterprise?
Between me and you, is Peter Obi sincerely not a regular member of the establishment?
Let me explain it to you, where others see limitations, some others see opportunity, Peter Obi wanted to change the narrative in Anambra, he has to use an unknown party like APGA to do, it happens when you believe in yourself, before then it used to be PDP and AD in Anambra state. During end SARs, he was vocal hence the birth of Awkuzu SARS propaganda/allegation during his tenure. Using SARs against his political enemies? Your own propaganda I guess? I have never heard of this your own version of campaign of calumny. The aid was caught with N250M, for you to say unknown purpose shows that you have refused to believe his own side of the story. I believed his own side of it. A man who ploughed state funds into his private enterprise? Would you rather he had invested it into something he did not trust? the fact that he made it public shows that he did not mean harm, some did not invest theirs, they looted everything.. For me, He is sincere with the fear of God. Atleast, He left office and demands nothing from the state that afterwards, Can you say that about others?
RelevantUpdates: The Problem is that these people are all incompetent.
They have been in offices before, and we know their corrupt practices and capacity already.
Wise Nigerians just have to face their respective businesses and invest Rightly in The Right Cryptos so that they can better improve themselves and their community.
Nothing good can come out from recycled political thieves.
We need to learn that.
I bet you that something good will come out of Peter Obi presidency
SmartyPants: In 2019 you didn't have Moghalu, Sowore, and other non-establishment people to choose from?
Lol.
What we are even saying is, okay, now you have Obi, go ahead and choose him. But to turn around and lambast PDP after you ran on their ticket as running mate to Atiku?
That means Obi was deceiving Atiku then, or he is deceiving the youths now.
Either way, a deceiver is a deceiver.
Moghalu and co have never held any executive political position to give us an idea about what to expect and if you are sincere to yourself, you'd know that Peter Obi or myself have never lambasted PDP but feel that as things are now, Peter Obi is the best option, peter choice change with time, I would have said the same if it was Osinbajo instead of Obi. I can't pick Atiku when Obi is available, Tinubu is a no, no for me.
This failed political jobber always speaking from both sides of his mouth. He can't even contribute a single vote to any candidate. The only good thing about him is that he identifies the leading candidate and stalk him for relevance.
candidtalk: Has he lied? Was Obi not in the PDP till a few months ago ,and preparing to contest the Primaries of the Party?
Today he is looking to discredit the Party as unfit.You can make it about discrediting Okowa, the messenger, but the message is 100% correct.
What does it have to do with the voters, Those in PDP and APC are both Nigerians likewise Labour party so, the issue is about those that will run the affairs of the party and what they represent. In 2019, we had limited options to choose from hence, it was either PDP or APC but now that we have a better candidate, why not? if by tomorrow we see someone better, we move, life is dynamic , hence some make it and some do not make it in life because they keep doing one thing over and over expecting a different result
TakeNigeriaBack: What a show of shame! Obi does not have the temperament of a leader. Ordinary Dino is making him lose his cool and opening his mouth so wide. He should forget 2023. No be curse. Na fact.
You see yourself, ordinary debate, your candidate, how can he handle a diverse country like ours, he should forget about 2023. Atleast, I can see that only Obi and kwankwaso are intelligent enough to lead Nigeria with Obi leading the pack.
Even when he has to interact with riffraffs in the presidential election, he will be there exchanging ideas with them.
I liked Atiku for attending a presidential debate and leaving when Buhari wasn't there.
Give some regards to yourself.
What was Peter Obi doing in a town hall meeting that the candidates of the ruling party didn't consider important to attend?
that's what sets him apart from the other two. Those that have nothing to fear will always go, Buhari that evaded the interview, you can see how the country is, you lot will demand a better Nigeria but will still support, encourage and reward the people that put you in this mess, no question asked, praise singers, God will punish anybody that do not want the best for the country, those that support unclear characters, may they be the victims of whatever bad that comes from the people they enforced on others for not encouraging Nigerians to ask them pertinent questions before they get into office. Amen
VEHINTOLAR: What exactly would you have done Ipob terrorist ? You guys in that tiny enclave just like chest beating too much ! So,assuming that Tijubu l campaign trains appeared in the east on Monday,you guys would shoot at them or something ? We know you guys are stupid but I don't want to believe you'll be that foolish to even think of trying that !
Believe it or not,the campaign in the east was rescheduled so as to encourage people to come out or what is the essence of having a campaign when people are scared of coming out of their houses because they know that some crazy bloodsucking fools are out there waiting to kill them ? Trust me,the campaign committee just averted a certain calamity that was sure to befall Igbo people,especially those living outside of your region,should you guys try to be funny if the campaign was to go as earlier scheduled !
It is in your own best interests not to do anything stupid throughout Asiwaju's campaign in the east. If you allow your senseless emotions to becloud logical reasoning,trust me,the consequences will be too catastrophic for you guys to handle !
We are hoping that common sense will prevail whenever Tinubu's campaign trains move to the East. F.uck your cowardly Ipob and ugm,south east here we come on Tuesday !
You will open your mouth and say what you can't even dream of saying to the person in his face in the name of frustration and hunger. you are one of the people that can't even utter a word when people are talking public, so why do you think you deserve my time?
Durabest: I don't know who is turning south against south but from what is possible peter obi will be the first presidential candidate to congratulate Tinubu.Winning Tinubu in a presidential election is like waiting for sun to shine at 1 a.m midnight.Tinubu has the trust of Nigerians written all over him.He Tinubu has what it takes to make Nigeria great.
This is an insult to the reasonable Nigerians, Peter may not be the messiah but he has the passion to turn things around and for Tinubu, he will institutionalize corruption at the federal level
Peter Obi will make politics unattractive, even his family members are not interested because they believe they will not gain anything different, his wife and children are not even bothered because it will not be an enjoyment for them. Those making up all sorts of allegations against are only doing that to prevent the inevitable.
Zetra7: Am just curious, is the hate real or just politics.
I mean, who would hate a man like that who has shown clearly that he is different from our normal politicians.
I don't quite understand, is it cause he's Ibo? I remember quite well during Okonjo Iweala's battle to become the DG of WTO, some Nigerians even supported blocking her from the job cause her tribe, is the same thing playing out with Peter Obi??
Ok, but politics aside, who will hate men like the Former Emir of Kano Sanusi or Akinwumi Adesina for their passion to see a New Nigeria, why the hate for a man that have proved himself to be worthy to help us.
Let's relate guys, we are the masses right? We have felt the impact of the dark cloud covering the nation for a long time, How is it difficult to choose from the Atiku, Tinubu and Obi.
Now am not saying any of them is perfect but guys, we are choosing between men bent on the old ways and a man who wants to charter a new path.
For the first time, we have a very learned, vast travelled, very exposed intellect vying for presidency, for the first time , we have a man very close to the masses and not some Kings lording over us.
I mean, we know this is not pretense, a clear record of his past is there, with cutting cost of governance, fixing his state during his tenure to saving extras for the next government.
How do we even argue, debate or compare. It's a bit strange for me don't know sbout you. If there was Osinbajo on the ballot and El rufai, it would have made a huge difference.
Again I ask , are we not the masses Can anyone swear a life and death oath that this man is not better than those old crooks, why the hate then??
We have seen the effect of a Buhari, do you think you reading this will escape the effect of Atiku or Buhari? Even if you live abroad, you have families here and you will likely come back to visit.
Britain after playing foul politics with the just gone prime minister felt the negative imapct and quickly retraced their path by choosing a 42 year old, Indian to govern them based on competence.
In Nigeria, we pray every minute for Nigeria to change yet God sends a Saviour and what do you do, hate him.
Rishi Sunak is God's sent to Britain as Peter Obi is your Saviour, if you like don't accept him and keep praying for God to come down himself to help.
For the first time , we have all the political elites on one side INCLUDING POLITICAL ELITES FROM HIS TRIBE and have a Peter Obi leading the masses on the other side, PLEASE, is this not the best opportunity to drown all these corrupt emperors politically?
Nobody sees Peter Obi family in the election ever his wife is minding her business cause she knows just like in Anambra , she's not getting an office of first lady but just look at Tinubu and Atiku, their wives and their children.
People of Nigeria wake up from slumber, don't know if this is juju, hailing oppressors and fighting saviours, Nawoooooo
Again I ask , why do you hate this man??
They hate him because he is Igbo, just check all the anti -Peter Obi posts, you will see them insulting the whole of Igbo race or call all of them Ipob, this goes to show that nobody got anything on PO. It simply hate on Igbos by very few never do well folks in the society. I see them everyday and to be honest, it is nothing but out of jealousy because virtually all of them look hungry and why won't they look hungry, they use all their time in the world thinking about Igbos.
OsunOriginal: What stops the followers from holding the leaders accountable? What stops you and I, if we are sure the leaders are the problem, from shutting down the country and chasing them out? Don't say the north or south won't join protests - you don't need everybody to be there. Most of the protests that changed governments only happened in key cities like Lagos, Cairo, Paris, etc. You don't need everybody.
So, I still believe there is a serious issue with followership in Nigeria
Tell me any that you have ever started or do you like the state of things in the country?
OsunOriginal: It is convenient to put all the blames on leaders while we continue, individually, to act and behave in ways that are destructive. Leaders are from among us or are they from elsewhere?