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FamilyRe: Surehome Marriage Seminar: Question & Answer Episode by TenQ: 6:51pm On Nov 24, 2024
tellsblinks:
Does Age matter in marriage?? I have this university lover, we've been together for years

But we are done with university and distant have come in.

I know the future is uncertain, but can such lead to marriage? Have you had such experience?? How did it end?
Does age matter in marriage?
Yes and No!

Marriage should be for any body below 18 years old!

The longer the time of relationship before a marriage, the lower the probability that marriage will occur unless from the foundation the relationship has been built purely on the understanding of marriage.

The average time from relationship to marriage seems to be around 3 years!

If you have not seriously considered and discussed marriage, forget it and move on with your life!
However, call him to find out his mind before taking your final decision.
FamilyRe: Surehome Marriage Seminar: Question & Answer Episode by TenQ: 6:46pm On Nov 24, 2024
Amuluonyenaego:
A man whom his family is residing in another place due to the nature of his job and his earnings is around 150k monthly, how much do u think he should be giving his family monthly. NB: his wife is not working, one child and his wife’s junior sister.
Nothing less than N100k.
Three people sharing this will amount to roughly N33k per person and the husband N50k: this is fair!
Christianity EtcRe: Why did Allah says "No Angel was sent to Mohammed" BUT modern Muslims Disagree! by TenQ(op):
GothamCities:
Is there no Muslim to answer these questions? Satmaniac did not answer these questions in my opinion because the issue here was not whether an angel followed Mohammed to the market or not. The issue is that Allah is saying if he had sent an angel 'to', not WITH Mohammed, then the people would have had instant judgement. If he had sent a book, they would say it's magic and would have been more confused. This is not a matter of sending an angel with Mohammed while he went to the market.

And also, Muslims should try and reconcile these verses with the verse that says a certain Gabriel was sent to Mohammed to bring the Quran to his heart.

I trust antichristian with his vast knowledge of the Quran would be able to bail us out.

This is a post dating as far back as 2023. If there are no answers, let's agree that Muslims have been deceived.
Thank you sir.
The religion based on fabrications don't notice lies when they memorise the arabic they don't understand.

What is so difficult in answering the questions

1. Is there any other verse(s) in the Quran that says clearly that an Angel was sent physically to Mohammed?
2. Who do you think we should believe in this case, the almighty Allah OR Islamic Traditions ?
Christianity EtcRe: Why did Allah says "No Angel was sent to Mohammed" BUT modern Muslims Disagree! by TenQ(op):
Who Do We Believe In This Case: The Almighty Allah Or The Islamic Traditions

A few days ago , I came across these verses in the Quran and maybe it is my understanding that is incomplete: hence I wish all muslims and the scholars will help me comprehend the CLEAR Words of Allah without Addition or Subtraction.

Quran 6:7
وَلَوْ نَزَّلْنَا عَلَيْكَ كِتَـٰبًۭا فِى قِرْطَاسٍۢ فَلَمَسُوهُ بِأَيْدِيهِمْ لَقَالَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوٓا۟ إِنْ هَـٰذَآ إِلَّا سِحْرٌۭ مُّبِينٌۭ
Had We sent down to you (O Prophet) a revelation in writing and they were to touch it with their own hands, the disbelievers would still have said, “This is nothing but pure magic!”
Quran 6:8
وَقَالُوا۟ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ عَلَيْهِ مَلَكٌۭ ۖ وَلَوْ أَنزَلْنَا مَلَكًۭا لَّقُضِىَ ٱلْأَمْرُ ثُمَّ لَا يُنظَرُونَ
They say, “Why has no angel come with him?” Had We sent down an angel, the matter would have certainly been settled , and they would have never been given more time ˹to repent˺.
Quran 6:9
وَلَوْ جَعَلْنَـٰهُ مَلَكًۭا لَّجَعَلْنَـٰهُ رَجُلًۭا وَلَلَبَسْنَا عَلَيْهِم مَّا يَلْبِسُونَ
And if We had sent an angel, We would have certainly made it ˹assume the form of˺ a man—leaving them more confused than they already are.
Quran 6:10
وَلَقَدِ ٱسْتُهْزِئَ بِرُسُلٍۢ مِّن قَبْلِكَ فَحَاقَ بِٱلَّذِينَ سَخِرُوا۟ مِنْهُم مَّا كَانُوا۟ بِهِۦ يَسْتَهْزِءُونَ١
Other˺ messengers had already been ridiculed before you ˹O Prophet˺, but those who mocked them were overtaken by what they used to ridicule.


So, Lets begin:
1. In verse 10: Allah seem to accept the fact that Mohammed is ALSO a Messenger (as other messengers have been sent before Mohammed who also have been ridiculed)
2. In verse 7: Allah said that he DID NOT send the revelations to Mohammed as a printed book from heaven, as the disbelievers would regard it as just magic (they wouldn't still believe anyways)
3. In verse 8: Allah says that he DID NOT send an Angel to Mohammed (even though these disbelievers ask why no angel has been sent to him) because IF he did, their judgement would have been concluded and thus cannot repent again
4. In verse 9: Allah says that IF HE DID SEND an Angel, the Angel would have come in the form of an ordinary Man which would even leave the disbelievers more confused. i.e. Allah DID NOT send any Angel even in form of a Man (not to even think as an Angel)


My Questions:
In Quran 6:7-10 it seems Allah is saying in no ambiguous terms that he DID NOT send any Angel to Mohammed either as an Angel (spirit being) or as a Man (physical being).
However, Islamic TRADITIONS say that the Angel Jibril was the one who always brought the Quran to Mohammed. There is even the elaborate story of Jibril's first encounter with Mohammed where he was squeezed and commanded to Recite!

1. Is there any other verse(s) in the Quran that says clearly that an Angel was sent physically to Mohammed?
2. Who do you think we should believe in this case, the almighty Allah OR Islamic Traditions ?


Thank you.



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RomanceRe: Nigerian Man Cancels Wedding Over N3.5m Bride Price List (photos) by TenQ: 7:17pm On Nov 23, 2024
TheBillyonaire:
Marriage is not for the hungry.
True!'
May we not marry from a hungry family: they think their daughter is an investment they must harvest from before she leaves for her husbands house.

But Marriage is NOT for a Fool!
RomanceRe: Nigerian Man Cancels Wedding Over N3.5m Bride Price List (photos) by TenQ: 6:01pm On Nov 23, 2024
TheBillyonaire:
That amount is very considerate. There is no labor charge there, which exist in some climes.

He got a good offer to be honest, I see no reason to complain. The expense is less than 2 month's of average rent in London.
No problem.

Let them hold their daughter or find a suitor that will pay N3.5m fee to carry their liability of a daughter
Christianity EtcRe: Sex Always In The Dream Signifies What?? by TenQ:
jaephoenix:
The existence of bacteria, viruses, programs etc can be proven with data,, which is reproducible. The existence of demons cannot be proven by any data, unfortunately.
I asked u a question which you dodged. Again would you believe me if I told you I communicate with unicorns? Its a yes or no question
Existence of bacteria and viruses can be proven with data!?
And the Existence of computer programs can be proven with data!?

And the illiterate village clown still thinks everything is measurable by science as if data is a measuring instrument!
It is not difficult recognising donkeys amongst men!
because it is enough just to listen to the sound that endlessly comes out of their mouths!

Christianity EtcRe: Sex Always In The Dream Signifies What?? by TenQ:
jaephoenix:
Ok. So what if I tell you Unicorns exist and I just spoke with one just now. Would you believe me or not? And your reason
Do I have to believe you?
It's your world!

And it is not my occupation to believe you.


Sometimes the best of some people's wisdom and rationality is based on their gross ignorance!

An uneducated village fool was arguing that viruses and bacteria do not exist. It took others a long time to realise that his foolishness was the cause of his lack of education.
People with experience in virology and bacteriology couldn't convince him as he spoke stupid arguments based on his limited knowledge!

This same village fool argued that computer programs did not exist within any AI robot. He is still braying like a donkey arguing with those with experience in electronics about the physical properties of computer programs.

Shouldn't this village fool first cure his foolishness first: perhaps then, he would be able to learn?

Christianity EtcRe: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 9:22pm On Nov 21, 2024
gaskiyamagana:
And Christianity survives with propagation of truth for the gullible followers?
As long as Christians survive by the Truth, it's a win till eternity
Unfortunately
Islam that survives by falsehood discovers when its too late that they've been scammed for eternity
Christianity EtcRe: Sex Always In The Dream Signifies What?? by TenQ: 9:16pm On Nov 21, 2024
jaephoenix:
… and how did u know all this?
Experience!
Christianity EtcRe: Sex Always In The Dream Signifies What?? by TenQ: 7:03pm On Nov 21, 2024
jaephoenix:
What is a demon?
A demon is a disembodied living being that may infect some individuals and as such, the infected manifests symptoms of the kind of demons they are afflicted with. Of course these demons are spiritual beings analogous to virus/malware programs.
HealthRe: NAF Pharmacist, Olumuyiwa Babalola, Clinches Triple Awards by TenQ:
SUNNINO:
Awa ni ye award ceremony, na Dem Dem, arrangee and hyping activity.
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Dawn91:
Yorubas organize an award = Yorubas give their brother awards undecided
This same guy had been receiving Prizes for excellence for ages. Not everyone arranged their accolades.

Here is another one where he won two prizes at the Nigerian Naval War College 2017

A Nigerian Air Force (NAF) officer, Group Captain David Babalola recently bagged the Commandant’s Award for the Best Research Paper during the graduation ceremony held for the first set of participants of the Naval Warfare Course at the Naval War College Nigeria.

Group Captain Babalola also received the Chief of the Naval Staff’s Award for emerging as the Second Best participant on the Naval Warfare Course.
https://securitydigestng.com/2017/12/22/naf-officer-bags-commandants-award-at-naval-war-college/

Here is another one from the National Defence College 2022
Group Captain David Babalola of the Nigerian Air Force bagged the General Owoye Azazi Prize for the Best Research Paper on Operational Effectiveness and Mr A Sadisu of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for Director General National Intelligence Agency Prize for Best Research Paper on Intelligence.
https://emergencydigest.com/2022/08/05/nigerian-colonel-brazilian/


Lets appreciate hard work

Christianity EtcRe: Sex Always In The Dream Signifies What?? by TenQ:
Edoigho:
Please Dear Christians Here I Always Dream Of Having Sex With Faces Familier To Me In The Dream..And Dream Of Going Back To My Primary School.Please Any Intepretation Here Please
It means you need deliverance from your demons

Sex is a payment for things the demons want from your life
Primary school is retrogression (a state of backwardness)



It isn't helpful if a person receives deliverance but not born again!
Christianity EtcRe: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 10:58pm On Nov 20, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:
Yeah we here till you beat it up and come back again.
Though no assurance you can get from me another response
You have being deceived by the Spirit of Islam!
It is the spirit of the Antichrist!
But, the Deceived rarely know that they are deceived until it is too late
Christianity EtcRe: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 8:38pm On Nov 20, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:
I have emboldened questions answered from your repost.

You sure had a very brief or quick night 🤣🤣🤣
I understand that it is the spirit of Islam: I pray for your freedom and salvation!
The spirit of Islam hate the truth: they would say or do anything as long as their lies are defended!

Have a good night sleep
Christianity EtcRe: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 8:28pm On Nov 20, 2024
gaskiyamagana:
With truth, there is Christianity for the morons.
And Islam survives with the propagation of LIES!

Simple questions betray all you consider as deen sir!
Christianity EtcRe: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 8:24pm On Nov 20, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:
In truth you have convinced me that you cannot read to understand. Don't you see answer to 2 of 3 of your questions explaining the Jewish and Christian view of son of Godhuh??
Show me anywhere I asked you about the Jewish and Christian view of son of God?

My questions were well laid out and NUMBERED.
Some of them require just YES or NO as answers!

BUT, no: you must answer questions I did not ask you!

For avoidance of doubt: Here are the Questions again>renumbered



You very well know that I am not even discussing the Trinity with you to show he difference between Allah and YHWH the God of the Jews andChristians.
I have simply used the character and nature of YHWH
1. Is it true that YHWH has sons in the scripture of the Jews and Christians?
2. Is it true that YHWH do sometimes enter His creation in the scripture of the Jews and Christians?
3. Is it true that YHWH punishes even His prophets when they commit sin in the scripture of the Jews and Christians?

4. In which of these three ways is Allah like YHWH in these three questions above?


5. Tell me which Christian sect say that Allah is the third of three?
For this is either a lie from Allah or a strawman argument according to Quran 5:73
6. Allah says that if he wanted a son, he would have taken it from "amongst us": please tell me who are these partners of Allah? Are they the Houris?
7. How do you explain that the same verse that denied the trinity is the same verse promoting the Trinity of Jesus Quran 4:171
8. According the the scriptures of the jews and Scripture of the Christians, does their God have many children (not just one) like David, Solomon, the Angels, the Christians, Jesus contrary to Quran 19:88-92 ? Its a YES or NO Question.


All you need to Admit is that Allah is NOT the same as YHWH and stop attributing our God as your Allah!

Four simple questions BUT predictably , I expect you to go at tangent to them as you hate the truth.
You have created Allah in your own image and it is becoming a problem that can only be solved by lies and fabrications
Christianity EtcRe: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 7:25pm On Nov 20, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

In Judaism, the phrase "sons of God" is often used metaphorically to refer to Israel, kings, or celestial beings. [/b]In Christianity, Jesus is uniquely recognized as "the Son of God," while believers and angels may be considered "sons" in a derivative or adoptive sense.

In Jewish theology, God is viewed as transcendent, yet He sometimes reveals His presence in ways that engage directly with His creation. [b]These revelations are not seen as God fully "entering
" creation in a physical form, but rather as mediated appearances or expressions of His presence. Both Judaism and Christianity affirm that God interacts with creation, but Christianity expands on this idea with the concept of the incarnation. Jewish texts typically describe God's presence as mediated and non-physical.

The last question has been answered in a previous post.
Why are you afraid of the TRUTH?
Face it and i guarantee that you'd be FREE!

If you wont respond to my questions one by one, there is no point continuing. Repeating the same standard Islamic narrative is a curse and the chain of satan.

Whenever you are ready to answer the questions I posed ONE AT A TIME, I will re-engage you.

Otherwise, have a good night. I pray that God have mercy on you!
Christianity EtcRe: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 7:04pm On Nov 20, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:
Surah Al-Ikhlas (112:3):
He neither begets nor is born."

Surah Maryam (19:88-92):
And they say, 'The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son.' You have done an atrocious thing. The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation, that they attribute to the Most Merciful a son."

Surah Al-An'am (6:101):
"He is the Originator of the heavens and the earth. How could He have a son when He does not have a companion, and He created all things?"

Surah Yunus (10:68):
"They say, 'Allah has taken a son.' Exalted is He; He is the Self-Sufficient. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth."

In Jewish thought, God is seen as indivisible and transcendent, existing beyond human form or familial ties. The idea of God having a son would suggest a division in God's unity, which goes against the fundamental belief in God's Oneness.
Incorporeality of God:

Judaism teaches that God is completely spiritual and incorporeal, as highlighted in Numbers 23:19: "God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should repent." The concept of God having a physical son or fathering children contradicts this belief.

God is self-sufficient and eternal, not requiring offspring for continuation or succession. This stands in contrast to the human desire for children to preserve lineage or legacy.

Jewish theology consistently dismisses anthropomorphic representations of God. Terms like "God's son" are interpreted metaphorically, symbolizing a close relationship or covenant (for instance, Israel is referred to as God’s "firstborn son" in Exodus 4:22), rather than implying literal parentage.

In ancient times, surrounding pagan religions often portrayed gods with children, but Judaism firmly rejected such ideas to highlight the uniqueness and holiness of Yahweh.

Judaism's theological focus on God's unity and transcendence ensures that ideas like divine sonship are understood as symbolic rather than literal. This viewpoint contrasts sharply with Christian beliefs regarding the Trinity and the divine sonship of Jesus.
Since you won't answer my questions, have a nice day!

When you know the TRUTH and CHOOSE IT, it sets you Free!
Christianity EtcRe: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 6:32pm On Nov 20, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:
The same God of those who genuinely believe in a singular God of pure monotheism.

What is the difference between trinity and the father amongst the three?

Again your wisdom doesn't extend to understanding the rhetoric.
This verse is often understood to highlight Allah's complete transcendence and singularity, firmly rejecting any idea of God having a literal son . Although the wording may prompt questions about "from amongst us," it does not suggest that Allah has "partners" in the sense of equals or co-divine beings.

The intention here is not to imply the existence of divine entities alongside Allah, but rather to present a logical argument demonstrating that such a notion is both unnecessary and contradictory to Allah's essence. The verse seeks to counter claims made by groups that attribute sons to God, including certain interpretations of Christian or pagan beliefs prevalent at the time.
As predicted, I gave you four questions: you wouldn't answer because they betray the error and lack of understanding of God the Creator


You very well know that I am not even discussing the Trinity with you to show he difference between Allah and YHWH the God of the Jews andChristians.
I have simply used the character and nature of YHWH
1. Is it true that YHWH has sons in the scripture of the Jews and Christians?
2. Is it true that YHWH do sometimes enter His creation in the scripture of the Jews and Christians?
3. Is it true that YHWH punishes even His prophets when they commit sin in the scripture of the Jews and Christians?


In which of these three ways is Allah like YHWH?


1. Tell me which Christian sect say that Allah is the third of three?
For this is either a lie from Allah or a strawman argument according to Quran 5:73
2. Allah says that if he wanted a son, he would have taken it from "amongst us": please tell me who are these partners of Allah? Are they the Houris?
3. How do you explain that the same verse that denied the trinity is the same verse promoting the Trinity of Jesus Quran 4:171
4. According the the scriptures of the jews and Scripture of the Christians, does their God have many children (not just one) like David, Solomon, the Angels, the Christians, Jesus contrary to Quran 19:88-92 ? Its a YES or NO Question.


All you need to Admit is that Allah is NOT the same as YHWH and stop attributing our God as your Allah!

Four simple questions BUT predictably , I expect you to go at tangent to them as you hate the truth.
You have created Allah in your own image and it is becoming a problem that can only be solved by lies and fabrications
Christianity EtcRe: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op):
You very well know that I am not even discussing the Trinity with you to show he difference between Allah and YHWH the God of the Jews andChristians.
I have simply used the character and nature of YHWH
1. Is it true that YHWH has sons in the scripture of the Jews and Christians?
2. Is it true that YHWH do sometimes enter His creation in the scripture of the Jews and Christians?
3. Is it true that YHWH punishes even His prophets when they commit sin in the scripture of the Jews and Christians?


In which of these three ways is Allah like YHWH?
Ohyoudidnt:
Simply because you disregard despite your superior expertise on the Quran in favour of other verses you inadequately understand.


Surah An-Nisa (4:171):

"O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, 'Three'; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs."

This verse clearly admonishes against the belief in the Trinity and reaffirms monotheism.

Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:73):

"They have certainly disbelieved who say, 'Allah is the third of three.' And there is no god except one God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment."


Surah Maryam (19:88-92):

"And they say, 'The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son.' You have done an atrocious thing. The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation that they attribute to the Most Merciful a son. And it is not appropriate for the Most Merciful that He should take a son."
Are you saying that Allah contradicts himself in the Quran?
He just told mohammed to tell you Muslims that he is the same as the God of the Jews and Christians and thus you submit yourself to their God.

But you and I know that you do not submit to YHWH and neither is Allah the same identity as YHWH!

You need validation from us but we don't need any validation from you Muslims

1. Tell me which Christian sect say that Allah is the third of three?
For this is either a lie from Allah or a strawman argument according to Quran 5:73
2. Allah says that if he wanted a son, he would have taken it from "amongst us": please tell me who are these partners of Allah? Are they the Houris?
3. How do you explain that the same verse that denied the trinity is the same verse promoting the Trinity of Jesus Quran 4:171
4. According the the scriptures of the jews and Scripture of the Christians, does their God have many children (not just one) like David, Solomon, the Angels, the Christians, Jesus contrary to Quran 19:88-92 ? Its a YES or NO Question.


All you need to Admit is that Allah is NOT the same as YHWH and stop attributing our God as your Allah!

Four simple questions BUT predictably , I expect you to go at tangent to them as you hate the truth.
You have created Allah in your own image and it is becoming a problem that can only be solved by lies and fabrications
Christianity EtcRe: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 4:39pm On Nov 20, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:
In whichever way it suits you please. Nevertheless you obviously know:

The concept of Jesus as the Son of God and a member of the Trinity poses a theological challenge to strict monotheistic beliefs, such as those found in Judaism and Islam, which stress the oneness and indivisibility of God. The Christian doctrine of the Trinity a view comprising the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three distinct persons within one divine essence differs greatly from the strictly unitary view of God upheld in other monotheistic faiths.

For strict monotheists, the notion that God can exist as three persons while remaining one being may appear contradictory. This distinction is seen as undermining the absolute oneness of God.

The belief that Jesus is both fully divine and fully human is another contentious issue. Many monotheists find the idea of God taking on human form incompatible with the divine nature, which they perceive as transcendent and beyond human limitations.

The act of worshiping Jesus alongside the Father and the Holy Spirit can be viewed as a departure from the exclusive devotion to one God, which is central to monotheistic traditions like Islam and Judaism.

From a Christian viewpoint, the doctrine of the Trinity is understood as a revelation of God's nature rather than a contradiction of monotheism. Christians maintain that the Trinity does not suggest three gods but rather one God in three persons, each fully divine and sharing the same essence.

The New Testament refers to Jesus as the "Son of God" and describes the Holy Spirit as divine, providing a theological foundation for the Trinity. For Christians, this is a mystery of faith that goes beyond human logic but is not inherently illogical.

Judaism firmly adheres to the Shema: "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one" (Deuteronomy 6:4). The concept of the Trinity is inconsistent with Jewish theology. Islam emphasizes tawhid, the absolute oneness of Allah, and explicitly rejects the Trinity in the Qur'an (Surah 4:171), cautioning against associating partners with God. This theological difference emphasizes the unique ways these faiths perceive and engage with the divine, serving as a key topic for discussion and debate among various religious traditions.

Therein lies the question on your insistence on a verse of the Quran where my view and your view of God are different. It's your view and you have every right to keep it. Your concept of God is different from mine. That's all.
I get you, your almighty Allah is not articulate enough nor have the ability of speaking to his supposed creation in a simple clear language of his mind. Thus he needs you to write lengthy tafsirs so that his words can be understood.


Quran 29:46
Do not argue with the People of the Book except only by the best manner, except the unjust among them. Tell them, "We believe in what is revealed to us and to you. Our Lord and your Lord is one. We have submitted ourselves to His will".



Except you think you are better than Allah in communication, then have your way!


Have a nice day
FoodRe: Did You Ever Try Any Of These Together? (pictures) by TenQ: 3:10pm On Nov 20, 2024
Mariangeles:
So, you know what they say about eating mangoes and drinking garri, or eating mango and drinking minerals, or having all almost at the same time.
Who has ever tried it? 👀
I want to know if anyone ever did, and lived to tell the tale. 😀
Oya come and tell us if you ever dared to do it.
Let us know once and for all if it's true. cheesy
I did all the combinations deliberately before my classmates in my secondary school just to prove the point that it doesn't make any scientific sense.

Its just an ordinary fable: It did not even affect myu toileting!
Christianity EtcRe: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 3:02pm On Nov 20, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:
Sorry you are no longer speaking for Muslims with superior understanding of the Quran verses to them?

This verse highlights the shared monotheistic foundation between Islam and the People of the Book (Jews and Christians). It stresses the unity of Allah (God), who revealed scriptures to all Prophets, including those sent to the Israelites, such as Musa (Moses) and 'Isa (Jesus). It emphasizes that Islam recognizes the same One God worshipped by these earlier communities, rejecting any polytheistic interpretations or distortions of divine understanding.

"Yahweh" is the name used in Jewish scripture to refer to God, derived from the tetragrammaton (YHWH). Historically, this name was central to monotheistic worship among the Israelites. While some modern scholars propose links between early Israelite practices and surrounding polytheistic cultures, Islamic theology does not accept these assertions. Instead, it maintains that the God worshipped by true monotheists among the Israelites, referred to as "Allah" in Arabic, is the same Allah mentioned in the Quran.

Islamic understanding firmly denies any polytheistic origins of Allah. The Quran often critiques and corrects the distortions of earlier revelations, affirming the principle of pure monotheism (Tawhid). The phrase "Our Lord and your Lord is One" aims to reconnect the People of the Book with the original, uncorrupted monotheistic belief that their Prophets conveyed.
Is the words of Allah precise and adequate for communication to mankind?

If it is, there is no need for other tafsirs other than what Allah has said: except you wish to correct Allah


Therefore, Let Allah speak for you sir!

Quran 29:46
Do not argue with the People of the Book except only by the best manner, except the unjust among them. Tell them, "We believe in what is revealed to us and to you. Our Lord and your Lord is one. We have submitted ourselves to His will".



Except you think you are better than Allah in communication, then have your way!
Christianity EtcRe: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 9:48am On Nov 20, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:
Who is in his will?

The God with symbolic sons? The God with divine sons? The God that bears no sons?
Let Allah speak for you sir!

Quran 29:46
Do not argue with the People of the Book except only by the best manner, except the unjust among them. Tell them, "We believe in what is revealed to us and to you. Our Lord and your Lord is one. We have submitted ourselves to His will".



You are consumed by your own deception![/quote]
Christianity EtcRe: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 8:45am On Nov 20, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:
The Quran acknowledges previous scriptures such as the Torah and the Gospel while also addressing inaccuracies that arose in their interpretations:

"And because of their breaking their covenant, We cursed them and made their hearts hard. They distort words from their [proper] usages and have forgotten a portion of that of which they were reminded."
(Surah Al-Ma'idah, 5:13).

A clear example in line with our most current discussion is the difference in view of son of God between Jews and Christians. One is symbolic and the other divine.
Don't change the subject!

Is it untrue your Quran says "We have submitted ourselves to His will".
Christianity EtcRe: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 8:37am On Nov 20, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:
No!

The phrase "Our Lord and your Lord is One" aims to bring the People of the Book back to the original, untainted monotheistic faith that their Prophets shared.
Muslims can tell lies for the continent of Africa

Why then do you submit to him (the God of the people of the book)

Quran 29:46
Do not argue with the People of the Book except only by the best manner, except the unjust among them. Tell them, "We believe in what is revealed to us and to you. Our Lord and your Lord is one. We have submitted ourselves to His will".



You are consumed by your own deception!
Christianity EtcRe: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 8:08am On Nov 20, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9q_b9UvfBY?si=66SiZxEttwF_W1O4


Thanks
According to Allah, this original gods of Israel is himself!
SMH!

Is the verse below UNTRUE?
Quran 29:46
Do not argue with the People of the Book except only by the best manner, except the unjust among them. Tell them, "We believe in what is revealed to us and to you. Our Lord and your Lord is one. We have submitted ourselves to His will".
Christianity EtcRe: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 7:22am On Nov 20, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:
Indeed you stay on the beat for more banter over varied ideology. I have stated we have different theological ideas/philosophy.


In Islam, prophets are viewed as morally exemplary figures who are protected and serve as ideal role models for humanity. Any corrections they receive are seen as acts of divine mercy rather than punishment. In contrast, Judaism and Christianity depict prophets as flawed individuals who learn and grow from their mistakes, illustrating God's justice alongside His mercy. Both perspectives emphasize different facets of the divine relationship with humanity: Islam focuses on mercy and guidance, while the Judeo-Christian tradition highlights justice and redemption. These distinctions reflect the broader theological principles inherent in each faith.
You make my point sir.
Meaning that Allah and YHWH are not the same personality!
YHWH punishes even his prophets when they commit sins unlike Allah!
PoliticsRe: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by TenQ: 7:10am On Nov 20, 2024
UltraSolid:
Only clowns take OBJ seriously. Which Nigerian President, to date, glhas attempted to buy a third term in office as OBJ sought? That alone shows what OBJ is.
With all his flaws, GEJ, Buhari and the current President has made OBJ the best president to rule Nigeria
Christianity EtcRe: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 7:07am On Nov 20, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:
Indeed your concept of who Allah or God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is where the problem is.

Allah doesn't consider anyone in the light of sonship even if it is spiritual.
The Jews definition of sonship in symbolic not as you Christians or let's say Tenq places Jesus as they have no agreement with you that Jesus was with Allah from the onset and participating in creation.

Fundamental we have different theological thoughts and it's best we respectfully live it at that.

Have a good day.
Have a nice day!

But its not my concept of God, it is the concept of God in the earlier revealed scriptures.
Allah does not punish his prophets for any sin unlike YHWH who exposes and punishes even His prophets

YHWH can enter His creation but Allah cannot enter his creation.

There are so many differences between Allah and YHWH to conclude that they are not the same Being.


Again, please have a nice day.
Christianity EtcRe: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 6:41am On Nov 20, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:
How do you read?
I think we should end this debate at this point.

But I want you highlight the fact that

The bottom line is that
Allah is certainly NOT the same person as YHWH the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. As YHWH do appoint SONS but Allah CANNOT.

One of the greatest deception in Islam is the verse below. On this assumption all of Islam hang

Quran 29:46
Do not argue with the People of the Book except only by the best manner, except the unjust among them. Tell them, "We believe in what is revealed to us and to you. Our Lord and your Lord is one. We have submitted ourselves to His will".

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