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Ohyoudidnt:
I told you that these persons were mixed into the text to give it a false authenticity.
The statement attributed to Sufyan Ath-Thawri, which claims that "God Almighty sends water from beneath the Throne like the semen of men, and from it their flesh and bodies grow as the earth grows soil," does not seem to be a verified or widely recognized hadith in classical sources such as Sahih al-Bukhari or other major hadith collections. Additionally, it does not appear to align with mainstream Islamic eschatology or discussions on bodily resurrection, which are mainly based on clear Quranic verses and authentic hadiths.

Now reread your false exegesis and point that Qurtubi and Ibn Masood actually made the water from the throne like semen statement.

Meaning that many Muslim scholars are liars!

Ohyoudidnt:
Too bad for the one that quotes sources that are not verified. Is it for the sake of reference regardless of whether what is referenced is true? Please there are records of statements made by liars and absolutely honest people why pick that of the liar?

Are you saying that Al-Qutubi and Ibn Masud are both liars?

It seems anything you don't like about Islam you reject.



Please , let's end this chat for now.
Have a nice day

Ohyoudidnt:
The figure of As-Samari in Surah Taha is often misunderstood as a reference to a Samaritan, but it is more accurately seen as an individual who played a crucial role in the incident involving the golden calf. As-Samari, as described in the Quran, led the Israelites astray during Moses' absence on Mount Sinai (Ijaz Ahmad, 2024). His actions serve as a significant test of faith for the Israelites and highlight the consequences of straying from divine commandments. The narrative emphasizes not just an ethnic identity but also the moral and spiritual implications tied to his transgressions.

Critics argue that calling him "the Samaritan" is anachronistic since Samaria did not exist at that time. This claim has been countered by recognizing that "As-Samari" can be understood beyond geographical terms, focusing instead on his rebellious nature and actions against Moses' leadership. The Quranic account does not strictly follow Biblical narratives; thus, understanding As-Samari requires a contextual interpretation rather than a rigid historical alignment.

The punishment imposed on As-Samari further illustrates his role and its implications for faithfulness among believers. Verses 97-104 recount how he was condemned to isolation and faced severe consequences for leading others into sin (Tafseer Taha: Ayat 97-104 | In the Pursuit of Writing, 2013). This punishment reflects deeper theological themes regarding accountability and divine justice within Islamic teachings. Therefore, interpreting As-Samari solely through an ethnic lens overlooks the broader moral lessons embedded in this narrative.

The problem was that Mohammed the illiterate prophet was not aware that the Samaritans did not exist at the time. Unfortunately,
Several English translation disagree with your explanation

Qur'an 20:85-88 and Qur'an 20:95
Here are a few notable English translations that use "the Samaritan" for As-Samari in the Qur'an

1. Sahih International: "the Samaritan"
2. Pickthall: "the Samaritan"
3. Yusuf Ali: "the Samaritan"
4. Abdel Haleem: "the Samaritan"
5. Muhammad Asad: "the Samaritan"

Are they unknowledgeable in Islam?

Tafsir Qur'an 20.85 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
But those he supposed [to be following him] had remained behind, for He, exalted be He, said, ‘Indeed We tried your people after you, that is, after your departure from them, and the Samaritan led them astray’, so they took to worshipping the [golden] calf.
https://quranx.com/tafsirs/20.85



You can see how you Muslims are struggling to cover up for the mistakes of Allah in your Qur'an.



The Word As-Samari is akin to saying words like "the Nigerian", or "the American" or "the Ghanian". The problem is that we know only one Samaria at the time of Mohammed and they are called As-Samari. Perhaps Allah wasn't aware that this verse will disturb you Muslims

Ohyoudidnt:
Like I said liars only like lies. All you have written attests to the fact that you rely on man's interpretation of what Allah says and not what Allah clearly says.

Small wonder the quarrels over pastors interpreting aspects of the Bible and Christianity differently.

Fortunately the Quran identified a person not a group or tribe that misled the Israelites

I quoted your sources, how does that become a lie?
Except you are admitting that Islamic scholars are chronic LIARS

As-Samari simply means the Samaritan.

Unfortunately, Samaria did not exist till approximately 1000 years after Moses.

Please let's call it a day sir!

Ohyoudidnt:
Of course your conception of grammar is insufficient.

The phrase "the sun sets into the lake" creates a vivid image of twilight descending upon the water. Does this mean the sun set in the lake?

The verse has been explained and the human misinterpretation addressed. The process of child birth is described. Does the womb not expand towards the ribcage during pregnancy?

We need not go far as the over veneration of mortal pastors by the church clearly shows how tradition has continued through the centuries

Honorary mention of Mary due to her piety like that of the priestly lineage of Aaron

Samiri refers to a specific person among the Israelites, rather than the Samaritan community that developed later. Al-Samiri is seen as an individual who led the Israelites astray during Musa’s absence. Islamic tradition and scholarship indicate that his name might have served as a title or identifier, rather than signifying the Samaritans as an ethnic or religious group.



You can only keep recycling the same set of questions despite extremely lengthy threads addressing them. Like inquiring about how the furnace heat a particular part of an ornament. Hopefully you wouldn't find yourself in the furnace before you are convinced.

Islamic clerics keep manufacturing new solutions to their dilemma!
It's okay!

Ohyoudidnt:
The hadith isn't embarrassing but the lies d by Muslim scholars for Muslimsattached to the hadith. We Muslims don't accept pseudepigrapha as you do with your Bible.

You won't because you detest the truth. Any small thing you find what to try and smear Islam with you run with without seeking if indeed it is true.

Truth be told liars only like lies.

Too bad!
The lies were told by Muslim scholars for Muslims (if indeed it's a lie)

But why would Muslim scholars tell such lies?

Ohyoudidnt:
Of course your conception of grammar is insufficient.

The phrase "the sun sets into the lake" creates a vivid image of twilight descending upon the water. Does this mean the sun set in the lake?

The verse has been explained and the human misinterpretation addressed. The process of child birth is described. Does the womb not expand towards the ribcage during pregnancy?

We need not go far as the over veneration of mortal pastors by the church clearly shows how tradition has continued through the centuries

Honorary mention of Mary due to her piety like that of the priestly lineage of Aaron

Samiri refers to a specific person among the Israelites, rather than the Samaritan community that developed later. Al-Samiri is seen as an individual who led the Israelites astray during Musa’s absence. Islamic tradition and scholarship indicate that his name might have served as a title or identifier, rather than signifying the Samaritans as an ethnic or religious group.



You can only keep recycling the same set of questions despite extremely lengthy threads addressing them. Like inquiring about how the furnace heat a particular part of an ornament. Hopefully you wouldn't find yourself in the furnace before you are convinced.

As-Samari means "the Samaritan" even many English translation translate it as such.
If Allah is the best speaker of Arabic, he shouldn't have problems communicating the Qur'an without errors and ambiguities


Please let's call it a day!
I wish you all the very best in life and your endeavours.

Ohyoudidnt:
Of course you refuse to agree with the use of names in text which may not be appropriately located to give false credibility.

Definitely there may be things said by this renown men and many not said by them. Interpreting the presence of their name with regard to some things said doesn't mean they said everything you read.

Mixing falsehood with some truth doesn't confer total truth to the text.

It's your claim: the same you do with the Hadiths of your prophet. Any hadith that is embarrassing you will claim that it is fraud.

Ohyoudidnt:
The first question wasn't yes or no. Or you are inspired to answer a different question?

I mean No, I won't.


Please let's call it a day!
I wish you all the very best in life and your endeavours.

Ohyoudidnt:
You ignored the emboldened and I answered the following for you unless you can prove my answer wrong.

Does Jesus teach you that righteousness is castigating the faith of others or looking for wrong in them?

Remove the dirt in your eye first so you can see clearly

I said NO!

What concerns me with them?

Deal with the questions before you

Ohyoudidnt:
What is the difference between false evidence and a lie?

You resisted bringing it up as you too know it is a lie then thought simply bringing it up will divert attention away from the lie?

Improve your intellect.

Al-Qutubi and Ibn Masud are Christians from my village!?

The real Islam is rotten to the core

Ohyoudidnt:
Fortunately the error you hold on to is not the Quran but an interpretation with explanation laced with the lies you like

No sir.

Too many errors:
#The sun setting in murky waters?
#Reproductive fluids coming from the rib cage
#Jews and Christians taking their Rabbis and Monks as Lord instead of Allah and the Messiah
#Maryn as sister of Aaron
#Historical Errors like the Samaritans at the time of Moses




Mohammed is the first Fabricator of Islam!

Ohyoudidnt:
No whoever wrote this and included their names for the sake of authenticity is the liar who you flock with.

Explanations like this are not sufficient for you because you insist on finding errors?

As-Sa‘di may Allaah have mercy upon him commented on the verse saying, “Allah, the Exalted, informs us that He shall fold the heavens on the Day of Judgment – vast as they are – the way a scribe folds the sheets on which he is writing; the stars will be scattered and the sun and moon will be wrapped up. {As We began the first creation, We will repeat it.} This means that Allah will resurrect the creatures after their death, out of nothing, just as He created them out of nothing.” [Tafseer As-Sa‘di, p. 531]

Ibn Katheer may Allaah have mercy upon him wrote:

“Allah, the Exalted, says (what means): {The Day when We will fold the heaven like the folding of a (written) sheet for the records.} [Quran 21:104] This will happen on the Day of Resurrection. This is the same meaning in the verse that reads: {They have not appraised Allah with true appraisal, while the earth entirely will be (within) His grip on the Day of Resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Exalted is He and high above what they associate with Him.} [Quran 39:67] Ibn ‘Umar reported that the Prophet, sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam, said, ‘On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will grip the whole earth, and the heavens will be in His right hand.’ [Al-Bukhaari: Marfoo’ (attributed to the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ))] Ibn 'Abbaas said, ‘Allah will fold the seven heavens with all the creation in them and the seven earths with all the creation in them; He will fold all this in His right hand, and all of this will be the size of a mustard seed in His hand.’ [Ibn Abi Haatim] The verse goes on: {...like the folding of a (written) sheet for the records...} It was said that the (Arabic) word As-Sijill in the verse means a written sheet. It was also said that As-Sijill is an angel. However, the correct view, as narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas, is that As-Sijill refers to the scroll. This was also stated by Mujaahid, Qataadah, and others. This was the view favored by Ibn Jareer because this usage is well-known in the (Arabic) language. Based on the above, the meaning is, ‘The Day We will fold the heaven the way the scroll is rolled for the writings'... and Allah knows best.” [Mukhtasar Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 2/523]

And Muslim scholars collected it as part of their religious books? Don't Muslim scholars quote these same scholars?


Sorry!
This is TRUE Islam: and I admit that it is shameful

Ohyoudidnt:
You equate the human written book to what is divinely revealed?

The Quran is the revelation not a collection of numerous writers.


No wonder you pretend to fear the Antichrist and label everything outside your fabrications as antichrist so only your effect at falsehood will be accepted.

Keep trying maybe you will end or give up

It takes a single error to prove that the Qur'an CANNOT be dictated by God because God CANNOT make ERRORS!


This is the Achilles heel of Islam: a religion of FABRICATIONS!

Ohyoudidnt:
The one inclined to falsehood will gather every false evidence to push through their lie.

Do you not accept that all that exists is by the leave/creation of God?

Initially, you said I was telling lies.

Now, I am gathering false evidence!




Everything is from God but not the drum load of sperm under his throne!

Sorry

Ohyoudidnt:
Ibn Taymiyyah, a notable medieval scholar frequently referenced, examined the authenticity of Al-Mustadrak.

1. Application of lenient grading standards.

Al-Hakim often graded certain narrations as sahih with a lenient approach. He accepted reports that did not entirely meet the strict criteria established by Bukhari and Muslim, resulting in the inclusion of weak (da'if) and even some fabricated (mawdu') hadiths.

2. Utilization of hadiths to bolster specific theological or jurisprudential views in matters of creed and Islamic law, which did not align with the standards of Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim.

3. Emphasis on caution, highlighting the necessity of comparing its narrations with other authoritative collections.

Al-Albani also noted that this book contained numerous weak or unreliable (potentially false) narrations. Many narrations considered Sahih in the book were actually weak or even fabricated.


You see how easily falsehood will pretend to be truth? Small wonder even your Bible warns you of false prophets even doing 'miracles' but are liars.

I guess this is what the Antichrist will employ and fool many before the world comes to an end.

Put a little truth but swarm with lies of great falsehood.

Try harder!

So, it's no more a lie that I am speaking!?

Muslims will tell massive lies to protect the embarrassment and goofs of Allah, Mohammed and Islam..


Your conclusion is that BOTH Al-Qutubi and Ibn Masud conspired to fabricate LIES against Allah and Mohammed?

Ohyoudidnt:
That's you trying very hard to be good.

Can you do more by telling when Al-Mustadrak `ala al-Sahihayn by Al-Hakim al-Nisaburi was written?

After that you can explain why the author's criteria for authenticity does not align perfectly with the strict standards set by Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim.

No sir.
These are your religious books

What is Allah doing with a load of sperm?
Who ejaculated the sperm?

Ohyoudidnt:
Extremely simple request you are flying like a dragon all over the place. Quote the hadith of Allah's sperm bank in full not by video and reference to where it can be seen. Which book and which number?

Obviously neither you nor you Hatun can as you obviously lie in negation of what your Jesus asks of you.

Here is the second from ibn Masud

https://www.islamweb.net/ar/library/content/74/8397/
https://shamela.ws/book/8573/1123



Shameless Muslims: they will hide their shameful books under Arabic script thinking that we wouldn't find them to read

Ohyoudidnt:
Extremely simple request you are flying like a dragon all over the place. Quote the hadith of Allah's sperm bank in full not by video and reference to where it can be seen. Which book and which number?

Obviously neither you nor you Hatun can as you obviously lie in negation of what your Jesus asks of you.

Extremely simple request for you to read your hadiths in a video presented to you several times you wouldn't do.

Why do you Muslims choose to protect Islam, Allah and Mohammed from their many terrible blunders?



Can you tell me why Islam and Buddhism are so ALIKE? Is Buddha another Messenger of Allah?




https://quran-tafsir.net/qortoby/sura21-aya104.html
https://surahquran.com/tafsir-alqurtubi/331.html

Ohyoudidnt:
Obviously hiding because he lies.
What is the hadith? Which book is it contained in?

Is it not clearly written and documented anywhere else other than this video?

Tenq the fantastic lieing machine

Sorry to disappoint you: watch the clip the hadiths are displayed there. You need me to spoon feed you? The clip is the Reference except you are dodging as usual.

Muslims are the champions of LIES, this is why you yourselves (Muslims) claim that the majority of your hadiths are FABRICATIONS!

Even Allah is a LIAR
In one verse, Adam was created with his hands
In another verse, Adam was created by Kunfayakun!

It's either Allah aka Mohammed is forgetful or fabricating lies at the go!

Allah says he is the same as the God of the Jews and Christians BUT you and I know that Allah is not YHWH.

Like DEITY like Worshippers!




Again, watch the video and you will find at least two Hadiths discussed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIAO86CynAU?si=oiwYgGg0GvKY_9yQ




Can you tell me why Islam and Buddhism are so ALIKE? Is Buddha another Messanger of Allah? Check the attached pictures

Iceking1:
Boss, my milage meter isn't working, scanner showed abs is faulty, will a millage meter that isn't working makes a car to consume fuel?

No.
But the speedometer can cause fuel consumption IF the data is used by the Electronic Computer Unit of your car. Some car takes the engine speed directly from the crankshaft.

You need the milage meter to be able to ascertain that your car can go at least 10km per litre of fuel

AntiisIam:
Slave AntiChristian, this is not the right time to read Surat look-away nah abi kini damu opolo e gan self

Hevis running away from answering my questions

airsaylongcome:
How many litres is "1 Gallon of fuel"?

Approximately four litres make one gallon

Ohyoudidnt:
When asked to present their false truth they turn to show biz. Present the lie you call hadith in text and stop feigning busy.

Watching doesn't present any clear hadith in support of a sperm bank hence a direct request for it unless you are all not more than a group of liars

It has been presented to you stop playing dumb. Watch the attached video and make your comments. The Hadiths are presented in the video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIAO86CynAU?si=oiwYgGg0GvKY_9yQ


If you have problems with the Hadiths, let me know

Ohyoudidnt:
Write out the hadith for clarity or random statements of Hatun is equal to hadith?

Present clear statements I belong to the school of black and white.

I don't have your time. Watch the video, the first hadith is around the 3 minute time. At least two Hadiths were discussed in the video.

Watch it if you haven't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIAO86CynAU?si=oiwYgGg0GvKY_9yQ

Inspirer1:
Thank you.
They have scanned it, there was error code on the oxygen sensors (the upper and lower) and two other sensors (which they claim doesn't have effect on fuel consumption).
We have changed the oxygen sensors.
Although like it was noted earlier in one of the posts above, the thermostat has been removed, I don't know if this can be the cause.
I plan to also personally check the air filter in the Mass Airflow box, perhaps it's dirty and need to be changed.

The thermostat shouldn't affect fuel consumption at all.

However, you have rightly noted the air filter and mass flow sensor.

Don't be tempted to sell the car o! It's should be a minor problem, only that it's not yet determined

Inspirer1:
it doesn't at all, I'll have to do as you advised cos the mechanics I'm using seem not to know the solution to it.

First get a car electrician with a scanner to scan for sensor errors.

Check for leakage of fuel from the tank to the pipe carrying the fuel to the engine.

Change your fuel pump if possible.

These usually are the culprit to fuel consumption problems.

Shalom

Inspirer1:
challenge is getting a good and sincere mechanic,,,,

Talk to a few of your friends with mechanics they use and trust.

Tell them to verify each of the problem and check.

But first confirm that your expectation is not too high. If your milage meter is working, 1 Gallon of fuel should do at least 40 km. If it doesn't, then you know you have a problem

Sirchiboy:
If I buy like 20k fuel

If I do like 6 to 7 ride.
Fuel will finish.
Highest ride I dey see na 3k.
I only get back my fuel..
Sample of the car I am using Is bellow

Your car should be able to do 10-13 km per litre of fuel in normal use.

Possible Problems:
1. Your Fuel Tank or pipe may be leaking
2. Check your fuel nozzle and fuel pump
3. Scan your Engines for faulty sensors

Ohyoudidnt:
So you know you lay claim to falsehood and still talk about it?

Present the hadith for to be evaluated.

Here was what I said again and see where the hadith was discussed

Fake prophets are worse in that they have no remorse to sin like one so-called prophet who had illegal sex with his wives house girl and shamelessly married his son's wife.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIAO86CynAU?si=oiwYgGg0GvKY_9yQ


What happened to the Kunfayakun of Allah; did it stop working?

Who masturbated into the drum under the throne of Allah?

For a person who doesn't understand spiritual things and figure of speech, can you explain what Allah's mouth (or was it Jibril) doing on the vulva (Farjiha) of Mary? What happened to the Kunfayakun of Allah?

AntiChristian:
I don't know why Christians are so abusive like this. And you'll claim you have Holy spirit in you right?

Being Obstinate and Obnoxious is an abuse!?
SMH!!

AntiChristian:
Stop wasting your time asking me islamic questions on my thread about your Bible statements. If you can't answer the question do keep mute and stop forming Voltron!

Only Max was civil enough to attempt the question but you're the only one turning the question upside down!

And I can see that you understood max very well!
SMH!

I repeat:
What can one do with a mad man's opinion? Nothing!

AntiChristian:
Here are the premises:
1. Jesus does only what he sees his father doing!
2. Jesus can of himself do nothing!

Conclusions:
Anything Jesus does must have been done previously by the father!

Jesus ate when he saw the father ate!
Jesus wept when he saw the father weep!
Jesus died when he saw the father die!
Jesus rose when he saw the father risen!

Enough of Rhetorics when indeed either language is your problem or like a madman, reason eludes you. It makes no sense sir!
Even if 30 pages was used to craft answers suitable for your level of comprehension, you will choose to feign IGNORANCE of sense.

You are afraid of betraying the incoherence of islam aren't you?
This is why you wouldn't answer any question as it betrays the failure of what you call your religion.


AGAIN:
I asked you a simple question:
1. According to Allah, Does Jesus CREATE Life?
It is a YES or NO question sir!

2. Is it true that Allah says that no one can create a similitude of a fly even if they joined hands together?
It is a YES or NO question sir!

3. If it is true, why was Jesus an exception?

4. Is it true that Allah is just one (the best) of the Creators of life in the universe?
Apart from Jesus, who are the other creators of life?

englishmart:
The main reason for the invention of prayer vigils is that you've been made to believe that principalities and powers operate mostly at late nights, and the best time to engage them is midnight. Is there any other reason?

In developed climes, you would hardly know the difference between night and day. Which principality is coming to attack you while you're casting a deck at 1:30 AM?

No sir.
Principalities don't know the time not follow any time.

The reason is because of availability of TIME (8 Hours straight) usually on Fridays (because of public servants) . Saturday morning can be used to catch up on sleep!
AND
The average church believe that the Longer the Prayer, the better

In the Western world, many people work at Night or end their work at night. These wouldn't be able to do any all-night prayers even if you call them for it. In Nigeria, no one works at night except the Nurses and security agents

This is the main reason sir!

Krismas:
Why should I descend into baseless argument with you? Colonialism and ownership are not the same. Russia owns Ukraine, is not the same as Britain owns Nigeria. Do u know how many Ethnic Russians are citizens of Ukraine? How many ethnic Brits are citizens of Nigeria? Abi u think Indians did not bow to Britain? Is that what ownership is about?

Just as Britain owns Nigeria!
LOL!

You can see how faulty your argument is?

Krismas:
Nigeria was never part of Britain at any time. Just like the 1954 transfer of Crimea from Russia to Ukraine by Stalin, so too other parts of Ukraine came as gifts from various Soviet leaders.
But today, Zelensky wants to die over Crimea that wasn’t even his own to begin with, which is populated by Russian speakers from time immemorial

Do you want me to show you where Sadauna was blowing to Queen Elizabeth?
Have you ever heard of Lord Lugard?

Who gave us the Name Nigeria? Was it Awolowo or Azikwe?

Who composed the National Anthem we are currently using? Is it Ahmadu Bello or Ken Saro-Wiwa?

Come on, Nigeria belongs to Britain (using your argument) except you can prove otherwise.

AntiChristian:
Once again i will reiterate my stance! The father is the originator of the action not the son! Whatever the father does the son does!

Your verses above buttresses it such that:
1. When the father died in heaven, he then shows Jesus He has died. Then the son died on the cross too to copy the father! (probably that's why Jesus said the father forsook him)
2. When the father ate food in heaven, he then shows the son so that he can copy him and eat too!
3. When the father rose from the dead, he then shows Jesus he has rose for him to rise too!
4. When the father wept, he showed Jesus and he wept too! (John 11:35 - Jesus wept)

Jesus and his father are one! And as you said, the father shows the son what he does for him to copy!

For whatever the Father does, the Son also does. John 5:19!

Being obstinate and obnoxious is your trademark and what can one do with a mad man's opinion? Nothing!

Hence, since your obstinate self chose not to comprehend simple English as there is difference between
What the Father does, the Son also does
AND it's NOT the same as
what the Son does, the Father also does!
Because, if one to one match is what a Donkey spirit possessed person is saying, the Father is on His throne in Heaven while the Son was here on earth!

Donkey brained individuals will insist that what Jesus meant was
Whatever the Son does is what the Father does!

I asked you a simple question:
1. According to Allah, Does the Son CREATE Life?

It is a YES or NO question sir!

2. Is it true that Allah says that non can create a similitude of a fly even if they joined hands together?

3. If it is true, why was Jesus an exception?

4. Is it true that Allah is just one (the best) of the Creators of life in the universe?
Apart from Jesus, who are the other creators of life?



It seems you are afraid to ask questions so that you wouldn't leave the clutch of Allah the best Deceiver.


Antichristian
Stop the tantrums.
A. I have dealt a heavy blow on the foundation of Islam and it is in shambles.

B. Go home and think of why Allah is NOT Omnipotent nor Omniscient nor Omnipresent.

C. Think of why Allah existence is not different from the existence of Iblis.

D. Think of how Taoheed is UNIFICATION of Deitys.

E. Think of how Ahad is ONE OF many or ONE in a GROUP

F. Think of the BEST DECEIVER and ponder if you are not already Deceived.