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N3TRAL:
Fvck Nigerian Academia with their 20th century styled curriculum.


Bunch of narcissists using paper without substance to molest young girls and exploit young boys through racketeering syndicates.


Superstitious fvctards who are unable to conquer religious dogma in their daily lives.


Bunch of bullies and scare crows opposed to development- that's what many of them are.



The government should give them a decent wage, btw, because, at least, they're more productive than other government employees.

Did you graduate with a Pass or Third-class degree from your University!?

Expanse2020:
Ode 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why don't you paste the three verses next to the ayat you posted here for us to know if Allah had a son or a daughter...
Ofonu
Our God the Robb, Allah
Didn't have a son or daughter
Was not born or born anybody

Allah pass all those nonsense Gods born from a woman🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Are you saying that Allah sterile or impotent or he has stored all his sperms in a bank under his throne?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIAO86CynAU?si=oiwYgGg0GvKY_9yQ

Can you explain what Allah is doing with all these sperm under his throne according to Al-Qutubi?

Some of your scholars like Ibn Masud are saying that Allah will ejaculate over the earth to repopulate it: what happened to his Kunfayakun?

The God of Abraham definitely has children like His Angels, David, the nation of Israel Israel, Christians etc. What a pity that you worship satan unknowingly.

Honestey:
What God has joined together, let no man put asunder. Now Alfa Sadiku has converted and kneeling before Pastor Jakobu and asking about what the Lord Jesus Christ wants with his beloved family.
I dey listing oooo

Wait! Hear the pastor ooo

"My pastor said I need to send three of my women away except the first wife! He said it is called restitution and it’s important for my new life in Christ!"

To avoid confusion in religion, be a Muslim.

You advocate becoming a Muslim and then go to hell!?



A man used to have 12 wives as a traditionalist. He converted to Islam by reciting the Shahada and so the same with each of his 12 wives when you did dawah for them.

Now, according to the Sunnah of Mohammed or of Allah in the Qur'an, should he divorce 8 of his twelve wives.


Let's see what Islamic rule says about this.
SMH!

Almunjid:
Christianity and confusion are almost synonymous. Like Jesus himself said, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them" (Matthew 5:17). This verse has so many interpretations, just because Christians want to reject old laws and follow their own man-made doctrines. Some say the above Verse means that Jesus came to complete the purpose of the law, some say he was showing the reason for the law, and others believe he fulfilled the law and that believers in Christ are no longer under it. It's all quite confusing!

And you know what's wild? If a new convert follows a pastor's teaching and divorces his other wives, he's doing those wives a huge injustice. Furthermore, if you mention some old laws, pastors would say, "Oh, that's just the Old Testament." But, they conveniently keep the tithing law from the Old Testament while condemning others.

Honestly, if someone divorces his other wives because he converted to Christianity, he's causing great harm. Polygamy was part of the Old Testament, which Jesus didn't come to change. Adding more wives might not be encouraged, but keeping the existing ones should be okay. It's like when someone's been wounded – even after the wound heals, the scars remain. It's not right to condemn or reject someone because of their scars. Personally, I believe the remaining wives of a Christian convert are as legal as the first wives, not just scars from the past.


Shalom!

A man used to have 12 wives as a traditionalist. He converted to Islam by reciting the Shahada and so the same with each of his 12 wives when Antichrist's Antichristian did dawah for them.

Now, according to the Sunnah of Mohammed or of Allah in the Qur'an, should he divorce 8 of his twelve wives.




I am waiting sir!






If you want to know my opinion according to the Bible for the case of the OP,
1. Having more than one wife is NOT a sin
2. However, ANYONE who would be a leader in the Church is expected to be the Husband of ONE wife.
3. God hates Divorce
This is the position of the scripture!

Kukutente23:
Well done bro
Don't mind that elated guy
God continue to increase you in wisdom and knowledge against the forces of darkness and mischief
I get your point and I endorse 100% 💯
Even Jesus taught us about hypocrites who have a log in their eyes but mind the speck in others

Thank you my Brother!
Muslims desperately want to make Islam sound true even with multiplicity of lies.
Since they work the work of their father the first Liar and Murderer, we used their testimonies of lies against them.

Stay blessed sir

marvelck:
I dont why when most guys hammer (become wealthy overnight), the first thing they do, is to start carrying women here and there. As if they never had any woman or girlfriend when they were stil hustling....

Probably because many women choose this time to chase this man because of his wealth!

TruthU87:
The irony is that Zionists are doing exactly to the Palestinians what Hitler did to them.

This is the easiest way to prevent suicide bombing in the name of Allah

abc115:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZmPD4PhEpE?si=b6vkLbReUtopPWKC



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/world/taliban-bans-women-hearing-other-womens-voices-latest-decree.amp

This is pure ISLAM!


Women are supposed to be half "brained"

Scientheosopher:
What if it's the Lord's (God's) plan? Or don't you know, from reading Samson's story, for example, He could have well engineered it?
#Study your Bible.

So, God didn't want Adebayor to be able to walk until his parents come to pray to him!?

Are you normal!?

naptu2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27gWsmxItJs?si=U-Hyy7OWTdzov18M



https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cx24nqjnpw5o

I love this testimony: satan wanted to cut his future glory short

For the first few years of his life, Adebayor’s parents were troubled by his inability to walk, despite being otherwise healthy.

Still only crawling when he was five, his family found their way to spiritual leaders in neighbouring Ghana, who insisted the problem could be fixed through intense prayer.

One Sunday, a football from a nearby game bounced into the church where pastors were praying over the young Adebayor.

"As soon as I saw the ball, I started running to it," he said.

"It was a moment of deliverance, with everybody shouting 'He's walking, he's walking!'. Everybody was so happy and whenever my mother told that story, she always cried."

An indelible relationship with the sport had begun.


I hope Emmanuel Adebayor knows the Lord Jesus at a personal level.

Anas09:
Anas09:

Oh okay. Sir, I need to contact you. I run an orphanage and the first set of children I brought in are marine witches. I became an emergency deliverance minister without planning it. One day, we were just praying when one of them began manifesting, (The Lord had shown me in dreams before that I brought in 3 demonic children into my house) so I laid my hands on her, haaaa, the girl abi na the demon change am for me o shocked shocked shocked.

The thing challenged me, I stood my grounds. Thank God I just read 'The Believers authority', and I watch Bob Larson on YouTube how he conducts deliverances. I just went into the mode and for 4 hours I was on it. After it I tire like this. I was a novice. That demon dribble me (I am better now sha). cheesy
The spirit told me it is not going anywhere because it was legally there. I asked why, it said the girl's grand mother made a covenant with it.
Finally, 10 demons left her that night (I asked how many were inside the girl, it said 10). But, they kept re-entering her. I don't know what to do to keep them out completely.
She is now cooperating me by telling me things she sees and their moves around my house. But, the other children are possessed too.
Her third eye has been opened so she sees into their realm, when they come around she will run to me, and I will begin to pray. Dem don threaten me tire cheesy cheesy.

I need a deliverance minister who can help me with the remaining ones. I can't do this alone.

I wish I can run away from this calling. But, I can't. I just have to braze myself and fight to protect them physically and spiritually.

Hello my sister,
Even though there is no formula for casting out demons, there are some few things I recommend to soften the ground and make the work of deliverance easier. This require some cooperation between the one who is being delivered and you as no one can force the deliverance of a person who doesn't want to be delivered.
1. Lead the person to make confessions of sins
a. Sins against people in words and actions
b. Sins of the ancestors eg idolatry, murder etc
c. Sins of lust
d. Any other sin as the Holy Spirit will lead you

2. Lead the person to Pray to Jesus for Deliverance by
a. Submitting his/her Body, Soul and Spirit to Jesus Christ
b. Asking for Mercy, Grace and Deliverance
c. Asking Jesus to expose, disgrace and flush out any spirit disturbing their peace

3. The person is lead to break covenants and remove legal grounds
a. Break Every covenant with satan
b. Break every thing satan is using to tie them to himself
c. Every instrument of of pain and destruction working against such
etc.

4. After these first three steps should you now begin to exercise your authority in the name of Jesus and begin to command torment on the demons and evict them.


We are all work in progress ma!
Shalom!

Gabrielshow24:
I appreciate your sentiments but let me clarify things more.

You must understand that when the "word of God" referred to demons. The term "angel(s)" were used .
The bible didn't make any distinction of these angels save on their works!

theologians invented the term (fallen Angel) to make it easier to decipher for those in training!

likewise so many other words were used to illustrate the state of fallen angels!

As touching the verse you quoted.
It's a futuristic, present and now thing(apply wisdom!)

Right now, is Satan bound?
or does the self same scripture not say he roams up and down looking for who to devour!

The judgement has been given that they are doomed to permanent demise (death); no matter how you sugar coat it, anything not in God will die!

But some still roam!
While others can't.

Even a physical analogy is ever present in the criminal system.

Where some are in maximum state prisons why others are only given house arrest and some after serving some number of years are giving parole.

I don't have JW background!

There were specific angels sent into hell. Those were the ones who left their estate presumably at the time of Noah when the "sons of God" mated with daughters of men and gave birth to hybrids called Nephilims.

Angels are complete in their nature thus, they do no need to possess living beings like demons aka "unclean spirits"!

Fallen angels are the levels of Principalities and Powers that rule the estate of this world: these are not demons. Demons/unclean spirits are far lower creatures than fallen angels.

We as Christians are told to be careful of how we address fallen angels but we are not given such orders with demons
Jud 1:8-9:
"Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke you."

Here the fallen angels are referred to as dignitaries.

Hebrew demonology, terms like שֵׁד (shed) and שֵׁעִירִים (se'irim) refer to demons and unclean spirits, often associated with physical and spiritual confinement to the earthly realm (earthbound).


Demons can be bound and cast out but I doubt it a Principality or Power (fallen angels) can be cast out of a place or bound. Satan is just the chief or head of these Principalities and Powers

Ken4Christ:
That quote was my quote. Abel never mentioned anything about the Lake of fire. I only admitted that hell is indeed not forever but went on to explain what happens thereafter.

But Abel said that there is no where in the scripture that says that the torment in hell is forever. And he didn't go further than that. And this gives the impression that these in hell will be delivered one day.

Okay!
I thought the quotation was was he said.

Reno sold us well here.
I wish the average Nigerian know a little of our history

Gabrielshow24:
Correct.
This thread has a lot of funny narrations!

This concept like so many other concepts show the errors in people's train of thoughts.

And infact like a lot of spiritual things they are not quickly inferred unless revealed.

First thing they must understand is how the word hell as been used as a metaphor and the second is its spiritual representation!

Now it's a case for understanding the battle between spiritual literal and physical metaphors!

Each having interpretations as seen from both sides of the situation due to the dual nature of life!

Now from the spiritual aspects we have the spiritual living and spiritual abstractions in terms of concepts.

Hence death exist in two forms: as a concept and as a personality.

Death as a concept is the absence of God(life) and as a personality this is self explanatory from scriptures.

As regards hell

Hell from the spiritual perspective is a gathering(waiting) place of demons for the end (judgement).

But this spirits decided to put their hands to work and little by little hell expanded not in size but in depth!

That's the first abstraction.

Now as regards mankind's view, the place of the dead (the habitat of the dead) where the spirits of the dead are kept is used to exemplify the term!

But even this is a spiritual place!
Now the physical concept that encapsulates the signing of spirits into the dead list gained metaphorical use.

Since obviously you have to die to be able to sign such a list!

Now as regards worms that do not die!
God is an eternal spirit and Angels were made spirits just like him hence conventional means will not mitigate the issue.

And to save myself time in explaining I leave this with you.

"Anything not joined with God as at the end will appear to all as perishing in an eternal cycle of torment"

As touching the lake of fire
Obviously hell in its present form is a spiritual place with dissenting spirits.

Surely wisdom suggest a way to mitigate this must be implemented hence both hell(the home of demons) and all things that failed to meet this criteria must be tossed out.

What better way to exemplify the process by using the term " lake of fire" to show the fervency of heat and the total destruction of all things not joined to God!

Hence as usual " lake of fire" is a spiritual concept of absence from God as at the end!

I agree to some extent with you but I highlighted a few places where the clarifications need a little help.

1. Hell is used as a metaphor only when it is used as meaning the grave. Otherwise, it is a literal spiritual place.
Abraham, Lazarus and the rich man is an example. Lk 16:23
Jesus saying that it is better to be maimed or have a single eye than have both in hell is another. Matthew 18:8
Jesus went down to the Prison (Hell) where He preached to those humans from the time of Noah 2Pt 3:18-20

I am usually not comfortable with treating hell in an abstract format

2. Demons are not yet in Hell BUT fallen Angels are in hell.
2Pet 2:4:
"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved to judgment;"

From Demons, it's not yet their time of judgment.
Mat 8:29:
"And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with you, Jesus, you Son of God? are you come here to torment us before the time?"

Demons are NOT the same as the Fallen Angels.

3. Spirits do NOT cease to exist because it is the nature of God. Therefore, any spirit that is not joined to God is thrown into the refuse dump of God (Hell and the Lake of Fire) where they remained eternally.
You said:

"Anything not joined with God as at the end will appear to all as perishing in an eternal cycle of torment"

They will NOT appear as perishing. They are in a place of torment forever.
Rev 14:11:
"And the smoke of their torment ascends up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name."

For emphasis: they have no rest day or night

This was why Jesus spoke of the WORMS not dying.

3. People often think that Fire symbolises destruction and annihilation BUT don't forget that a person can be in Fire without being Burnt.
The three Hebrew young men are examples: these did not even feel the heat.

It seems you have some JW background.

Humans are Trinity of their Body, Soul and Spirit! As spirit beings, they live forever just as the Angels

Ken4Christ:
I sure do know the differences between hell and Lake of fire. None of my statements contradicts all that you said.

Hell will not be forever as a doctrine is not a complete doctrine unless you tell your audience what happens next. This is my point.

When he taught that hell will be be forever, he implied that the torment will one day end. He said that there are no scriptures that said that they will be tormented forever.

So, he backed up his claim that hell will be be forever by also saying that the torment will not be forever. This is a doctrine from the pit of hell. I have nothing personal against Abel. We have met only once in Calabar over 20 years ago when he was still sound in doctrines. But we are not only called to teach God’s word but our duty is to protect the flock against false teachings.

Alright!
I based my comments on your post of what you quoted Abel Damina to have said:


If I got you correctly: the quote below was what you said Abel Damina said where you addressed his first submission

Let me address the first submission.

Yes, hell is indeed not forever. But the torment doesn't stop. Rather, it continues in a bigger fire known as the Lake of fire.

Hell is like a cell were lost souls are detained awaiting trial. The souls in hell will be released for final judgment on Judgment day after which they will be thrown into the Lake of fire:

Was he the one that said what was highlighted in yellow within the quote above?


Abel Damina's quote did seem to say that the torment of hell is forever and not the other way round (except if I got you wrongly)

Steep:
Abel is correct in some things, hell is not forever it would be cast into the lake of fire, it is the lake of fire that is forever.

Exactly!

Hello my friend,
It seems you are mixing up Hell and the Lake of Fire
1. There is a DIFFERENCE between Hell and the Lake of Fire.

2. No One is presently in the Lake of Fire BUT people are already in Hell.

There is NO ONE who is in Hell that will be saved

Ken4Christ:
Half truth is no truth. If you teach your audience that hell is not forever, you should be able to tell them what happens thereafter. Otherwise, you give a wrong impression that those in hell will one day be saved. And there are Christian sects that teach that. They even add that the devil will one day be saved. And they quote scriptures to back up their lies.

What about another recent doctrine where he said that God never told Noah to build an ark?

Abel Damina is teaching so many false doctrines. He is also a grace preacher who believes in once saved, forever saved. This is another doctrine from the pit of hell. If he doesn't repent, God will judge him.

Maybe you got me wrong.

Anyone who has been in Hell is automatically a candidate of the Lake of Fire.

There is no scripture that says that the judgement of the Lake of Fire is Temporary. There is no scripture that backs up purgatory.

Again,
1. Sinners will be in Hell UNTIL the day of judgment.
2. Anyone who was in Hell will be Resurrected AND Judged on the day of Judgment and cast in the Lake of Fire
3. Hell would be cast into the Lake of Fire
4. All Resurrected beings from Hell and those still living on the Earth will be judged according to their works.
5. Anyone who's name is NOT in the Book of Life is cast into the Lake of Fire.
6. The torment of the Lake of Fire is for ever.


Please check again and correct me where you think I am wrong. I want to learn

What about another recent doctrine where he said that God never told Noah to build an ark?

You seem to have the impression that I am defending Abel Damina. The answer is a big NO!

1. His teaching on Hell not being Forever is correct.
However
2. His teaching of God not telling Noah to build an Ark is WRONG!
God even gave him measurements and specifications for building the ark.

Here was what God told Noah!
Gen 6:14:
"Make you an ark of gopher wood; rooms shall you make in the ark, and shall pitch it within and without with pitch."

Ken4Christ:
Dr Abel Damina has recently been teaching on several subjects with grave errors that shouldn't be overlooked. Doctrinal errors are dangerous. It can cause some weak Christians to lose their salvation. Apostle Paul wrote:

1st Timothy 4:1
1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.

The recent teaching on hell by Dr Abel is very disturbing. He said that their are no scripture to prove that torment in hell will be forever. He even said that the story of the Rich man and Lazarus can also be taken for a Parable.

Let me address the first submission.

Yes, hell is indeed not forever. But the torment doesn't stop. Rather, it continues in a bigger fire known as the Lake of fire.

Hell is like a cell were lost souls are detained awaiting trial. The souls in hell will be released for final judgment on Judgment day after which they will be thrown into the Lake of fire:

Revelation 20:11-15
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and HELL DELIVERED UP THE DEAD WHICH WERE IN THEM: and they were judged every man according to their works. note

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

How does the scripture describe the torment in the Lake of fire?

Revelation 20:10
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night FOR EVER and EVER.

The passage above is very clear. It will be forever.

Even the teaching of our Lord Jesus said the same thing. He called it a fire that shall not quenched:

Mark 10:43-48
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

He also called it everlasting fire:

Matthew 18:8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into EVERLASTING FIRE.

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into EVERLASTING FIRE, prepared for the devil and his angels:

So, please ministers around him should warn him before God's wrath decends on him.

Like and share this post until it gets to him.

Many more rebuttals are coming. The church of Christ must be protected from false teachings.

Hello my Friend,

If the Quote below was what Damina said, he may not be wrong o!

Let me address the first submission.

Yes, hell is indeed not forever. But the torment doesn't stop. Rather, it continues in a bigger fire known as the Lake of fire.

Hell is like a cell were lost souls are detained awaiting trial. The souls in hell will be released for final judgment on Judgment day after which they will be thrown into the Lake of fire:

Why!?


Because there is difference between Hell and the Lake of Fire

Hell is the place of torment a sinner goes BEFORE the day of resurrection. The sinner in hell is a union of his Soul and Spirit

The Lake of Fire is the place of torment a sinner goes AFTER the day of resurrection. The sinner in the Lake of Fire is a union of his Body, Soul and Spirit

Hell as a place of Torment ends after the day of Resurrection: this it is not eternal

However,

Hell itself will be thrown into the Lake of Fire while the sinners are being judged.

Rev 20:13:
"And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works."

Rev 20:14:
"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."

I am not a fan of Abel Damina, but if this was his claim in quote, he was correct!

Shalom my Brother!

Broveens42:

Typical Nigerian

Wannabe atheist!

Broveens42:
You lack emotional intelligence..
Why are you more concerned about my 'person' than the issues being discussed?

Please drop out of this thread as you are a collosal waste of time!

AntiChristian:
You are the one suffering from diversion syndrome! Tell us why Angel Gabriel became powerless for 21 good days?

Angels are not humans that suffers diseases or ill! Angels are absolutely obedient to Allah!

You said Allah was teaching you about Angels and then I said:

It's a shame that islamic angels all suffer from Cynophobia Disorder!

You still have not explained how the black dog is satan! What about the white dog I used to have as a kid: is that dog an angel?

AntiChristian:
Do you see fear in the hadith you quoted? The angels only refrain from entering the room in which there is a dog or image when it is haram to keep that dog or image. But if the dog or image is not haram – such as dogs for hunting, and guarding crops and livestock then the angel may enter!

Na your Gabriel no fit deal with Prince of Persia till Michael came to bail him after 21 days!

You still did not answer the plain question

1. Angels are not physical beings, why would a physical dog scare them?

2. Did the presence of the dog stopped Jibril as a result of FEAR?

I am not understanding!


When we say Islam is a physical religion

AntiChristian:
The dog didn't stop the Angel! The Presence of the dog stopped the Angel. Angels do not enter a house with dog! Don't be dumb! Angel Gabriel was stopped physically by Prince of Persia until Michael came after 21 days!
...

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When we say Islam is a physical religion.

Angels are not physical beings, why would a physical dog scare them?

Did the presence of the dog stopped Jibril as a result of FEAR?

I am not understanding!

honesttalk21:
What is the most ridiculous is the slander that Islam is associated with necrophilia, pedophilia and satanic verses. All of these are rebellious falsehoods that have been portrayed in myths to counter the real teaching of Islam.

These self-propagated false myths have not only sustained gross stereotypes, but also significantly elevated the level of discrimination and hatred or prejudice directed towards certain peoples and to the whole structure of Islam.

They are mostly explained by the foolishness of a charge based on misinformation of islamic law or provisions.

It has indeed become a completely irresponsible struggle without clear purpose, a big stand-up show that is just for a laugh.

It shows a complete lack of understanding of the reality that there is a single message which has been given to humanity by Allah. Rather, Allah’s message is consistent among prophets and what they conveyed is still applicable in today’s world.

These are found in your religious books written by your scholars. Should we discard them because they cause you shame?

AntiChristian:
But why not talk about the last part where Michael had to be sent to rescue Gabriel from Prince of Persia?

Mr Liar.
Can you quote exactly where the word "rescue" was used.

It's a shame that islamic angels all suffer from Cynophobia Disorder!

You still have not explained how the black dog is satan! What about the white dog I used to have as a kid: is that dog an angel?

Why do you think that angels are afraid of dogs? Is it because Mohammed was probably bitten as a kid by a dog?

The phobia of Mohammed has become the phobia of Jibril!

Broveens42:
You're the one trying hard to convince your self that the characters represented, mean much other than the lessons..

There's nothing special about dog stopping an angel, just as there's nothing special about Satan stopping Paul or God speaking through a donkey

If dogs can stop an angel, feel free to tell me you are a Muslim and then we can talk. Other than this, it would be a waste of time as you've not even identified who you are

Gabrielshow24:
He followed the old semitic cultures where dogs were believed to have familiar/unclean spirit in them and as a result a clean or holy being such as an angel will prefer to avoid them totally. Mohammed borrowed heavily from Judaism, Christianity and Zoroastrianism.

But he didn't quite get it right in terms of reconciliation.

That's why the Quran appears as a reported speech and Islamic propaganda doing their usual best to dress Islam as presentable!

And they have a hard task doing that.
From allegations of supporting necrophilia, to pedophilia; to the satanic verses.
It's just hard to really cover those.
which confirms the word of Christ "by their fruits you shall know them"

As regards Gabriel being held up by "Prince of Persia"

It's first human nature to think that Gabriel was held up perhaps in a combative circumstance by this being but indications from the book of Jude suggests that what this being does is nothing short of a watchdog! Trying to ensure that God's own rules are not broken.

"Devil disputed over Moses as regards the body of Moses"
The prince of Persia withheld Gabriel as regards the revelation he was to give Daniel.

Both just serves to show the importance being displayed by God in both instances to the benevolence of mankind and the rebuttal by fallen angels to ensure God sticks to his own rules!

That's why they(demons) are anti-Grace.

Michael coming was perhaps to give a final verdict on the matter; of course sent by God!

My problem with Muslims is that even when they see through their books that the errors are not befitting the personality of God the creator, they will manufacture new lies to cover up the previous lies.

Our own is not to keep quiet but show them the Truth of the Gospel of Christ with every opportunity.

Broveens42:
Your arguments are baseless since the entities delaying God are earthly inhabitants...
They are just folktales with principles and lessons and any of the principles (god,man,Satan,angel etc) can stop each other
1 Thes 2:18
We wanted to come, I, Paul, again and again, but Satan stopped us


I showed you where God spoke through a donkey, hope you don't have problem with this also?

Satan, Demons and especially the Prince of Persia are earthly inhabitants like humans, animal and especially puppy dogs!?
Did you read anywhere I said Gabriel wasn't delayed by the Prince of Persia?
I don't understand your point of argument against what I have said.
Except you mean that dogs should be powerful enough to stop an Angel!


Identify yourself cause I have things to do!

Broveens42:
What's all these needless arguments.
God spoke through a donkey(Num 22:21), if you would want to take that literally too

Please, Who are you?

Antichristian believes in miracles and so do I, BUT the issue isn't about miracles BUT about how the God of the Christians and the God of the Muslims is perceived as not strong enough to back up their Angels.

The OP opened his thread to mock the God of the Christians as
He has problems with the Prince of Persia delaying Gabriel who was sent by God to Daniel in the Bible
BUT
He with certainty believe that a small puppy dog can delay the wonderful words of the almighty Allah sent to Mohammed through the powerful angel Jibril!?

Does this argument hold any water?
Evidence to this was provided
This is the point sir!

AntiChristian:
The puppy didn't stop Jubril but delayed the revelation and this is according to the will of Allah to teach us about the Angels.

They seldom enter houses with dogs or pictures until they are removed!

All these hierarchical structure of angels is just too funny! Gabriel was blocked and Michael needed to bail him out!

I forgot the kingdom of heaven suffered violence! Who are those fighting themselves? Angels and gods or Angels and Angels?

Doesn't this suggest God lost control?

Allah was teaching that Angels all have Cynophobia Disorder!

Is this the lesson?

AntiChristian:
If you see a black dog in front of your house early this morning what would you do? Be sincere o as a Christian don't lie!

I will do NOTHING as it isn't my dog and it is not in my fence!
Now that I have answered you, how about you?

Is the Black dog truely satan?
Can you explain how and why?
Is the white dog an Angel?

I haven't forgotten the earlier question about the Cynophobia Disorder of the Islamic Jibril!