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1000WaysToLive:
Crystal clear


I'm not interested in laws like that - moral or legal

And you've already explained that the assumption of such laws is unwarranted, delusional, and incorrect.

So why are you commenting on morality and the subject of subjectivity or objectivity?

When did I post this?

And you've already explained that the assumption of such laws is unwarranted, delusional, and incorrect.

Like their father, always lying!

midnight378:
Yes
Ant hills, bee hives , the Federal Government.

Ands are NOT intelligent!
Bees are NOT intelligent !!
Governments are not intelligent!!!

Which school did you attend please, maybe I should transfer my studentship. They are doing a good job with you.

Khai:
Wannabe Atheist reasoning at its best!

midnight378:
Governments are composed (according to you) of people with consciences . what the hell happened ?
you failed to address the other groups mentioned.

Since you have a conscience, has your conscience EVER forced you to do anything against your FREEWILL?

Next time, Analyse your thoughts before posting!

FemiAjani:
You are using the Teleological Argument which was variously articulated by the writers of the psalms, St. Paul, William Paley in his book Natural Theology, and many others. The argument states that just as we can tell that a watch we find on the beach was designed, so we also can tell the world was designed by an Intelligent Designer. We can also tell from the design what that Creator’s intentions for us are. There are all sorts of problems with such an argument from a modern perspective. If we say we can recognize design in the watch on the beach, why not in the beach itself? With a Creator God, everything must be designed. Which leads to the second problem: the examples of such design are radically cherry-picked, especially to show the alleged Creator in a positive light. The same Creator who supposedly designed birds and eyeballs also designed parasites and diseases. As naturalist Sir David Attenborough pointed out, just because there are pretty things like hummingbirds and butterflies doesn’t mean there is a Creator God: "You've also got to think of a little boy sitting on a river bank, like here in West Africa, that’s got a little worm, a living organism, in his eye and boring through the eyeball and slowly turning him blind. The Creator God that you believe in, presumably, also made that little worm."

Further, we now know from science how apparent design in the cosmos and in biological life was either self-organized by the laws of nature or evolved by natural selection, neither of which require an Intelligent Designer. The fallback argument is that such laws and evolution were themselves the creations of a Creator who fine-tuned the universe. However, this begs the question of why such a Creator was required for a creation which doesn’t reflect his assumed attributes. The idea of God’s special creation takes a beating when we understand that over 90% of all species that ever lived on earth have gone extinct in five major extinctions and many more minor ones. As Scottish philosopher David Hume wrote, "If there is a designer, he must take credit for the flaws in his creation. Flaws in the creation directly reflect flaws in the creator. If there is a flaw in the creator then he cannot be all powerful."

All you needed to do was to falsify my argument and not resort to whether it is an ATHEISTIC or theological argument.

When you see a Complex System carrying data and instructions, would you assume it randomly and spontaneously came to existence OR THAT an intelligent being must have made it?

It is a simple Question!


[quote author=FemiAjani post=116832760]
I would assume it was another human, not God. A cause should be both sufficient and necessary. God, as an explanation, is sufficient for almost anything, but it really isn't necessary. If you had read more about science, you would have heard about self-organization as a separate explanation from evolution. Evolution and self-organization are much more likely explanations for apparent design than God. God is a highly uneconomical explanation for anything, since it posits a whole other, spiritual dimension.[/quote]Why wouldn't you think a Crab or Fish did the writing?
Why would you ascribe such writings to be from a highly intelligent being (human) and not a dog?

The ball in your court!

chryssanthe:
You DO realize that DNA is not a code, don't you? You are trying to use an analogy in an attempt to prove something. You cannot prove something using an analogy. It doesn't work that way.
To take it a step further, you are trying to use philosophy as a premise for your assertions instead of science. That way you don't have to get all tangled up explaining molecular science. Go read a science book. DNA are chemicals and no more a code than fire and gasoline are codes.

Scientists have succeeded having antique RNA form spontaneously from the known chemicals and environment that were present in early earth.
It happened naturally and spontaneously. No god was necessary. Simple antique RNA is an ancient precurser to DNA.

Does the DNA contain data?
Does the DNA contain information?
Does the DNA contain instructions?

If you don't understand the above, where does the information regarding the color of your eyes, hair type and color, etc located. In your spleen!? LOL!

Even though no where have I said the DNA is a code in this thread, but it is.

Intact if you know anything about OOP in computer science you will understand why it is a strong PARALLEL between computer code and the DNA.

1000WaysToLive:
No, the question of moral objectivity doesn't have anything to do with subjective plans or designs or how any subject..including gods... want things to go.

Crazy ex-girlfriends who stalk or slash tires also have plans, also have designs, also want things to go a certain way.

The question of moral objectivity is whether or not there's something about an act or deed, the object..rather than the person doing it or watching it, the subject, that is wrong as a matter of fact, not wrong as a matter of being counter to their opinions or wishes.

Do you believe that there's really something wrong with things like incest or rape or murder..or are these things only bad insomuch as god has other plans?


If an ideology proposing a subjective moral code is a bad thing, and that's one of the problems with atheism as you see it, and as you've said in thread...then wouldn't this also mean that it's a problem with your god beliefs, which you have categorized as subjective.... as well?

As far as missed oppurtunities..and taking the time to familiarize yourself with moral objectivity....a gods moral statement could be objective insomuch as it purports to report a fact, and accurately reports that fact. If a god says that something is A Bad Thing™, but what it means is that this thing is not according their silly plan..the issuer has misreported a purported fact.


This is all a fancy way of saying..in short..that god bullshitted you...according to you.


That's why I keep trying to point you to the offramp. I'm fairly certain you don't want to suggest or imply that your own god is a shameless lying piece of shit whose only metrics for proper snd improper acts are base self interest and the minutiae of some opaque and personal plan.


In between moments of claiming that gods morality is subjective, and that god-subjective is man-objective, you also babble about god having REASONS, and those REASONS being beneficial to us somehow..etc.

Well..that's not subjectivity. That's objective utilitarianism.


Of course, god can't actually change the outcomes of objective utilitarianism at a whim....so that's a problem for some of the other things you've been calling gods subjectivity.

Does the maker of an internal combustion engine reserve the right to specify the fuel that it should be powered with?

midnight378:
I didn't say "omnipotent", ... i said "omniscient".
You can't read.
i need no help from an ignoramus.
Would you like an "eclxample" ?
LOL

So far you've been proven ignorant
on the science,
on the morality,
on the theology,
on the philosophy.

Why are you here making a fool of yourself ?

your FIRST job here is to demonstrate there are gods, any gods.
Get you're sorry ass busy and show us there are any gods.
Any at all.
So far , you're batting ZERO.

Most Atheists like you are powered by the same unclean spirit, so your uncouth nature is not surprising.

See how he is changing goalpost all about ; the trashing of a drowning man.

I can see you've demonstrated mastery and brilliance in in the sciences, morality, theology and
on philosophy.
It's so evident: I wish to come and learn from you!

LOL!!

1000WaysToLive:
Is your faith in god based on misunderstanding morality and rejecting biology, TenQ?

Yes? Then lol

No? Then why would the answers to any moral or biological questions be relevant?

You're not just wasting other peoples time, you're wasting your own. Or, if you prefer, you're wasting the time god gave us all.

What do you think he thinks about that?

DNA is a highly complex system and Library. A collection of Data , Information and Instructions that guides every cell in an organism. Within this highly complex DNA is the capacity evolve (for use of better words)

Have you ever fathomed that such a complex system existing a product of random assembly of atoms?

1000WaysToLive:
Yes, logic is very simple..and you've routinely contradicted your own

Even gone sofar as to cover god with your own logical missteps

Is that a problem for you, or for a god?

How?

1000WaysToLive:
Does your god hand craft every single snowflake..or is there something..even in your own beliefs..between intelligently cr DEATHeated, and random?


I only ask because..whenever I see something that is meaningfully complex but not man made..I think it's that thing in the middle.


One of the many instances of things which were not created by any intelligent being, but also not random.

If I saw my name written in the sand in the beach..I;d assume some guy named DJ wrote his name in the sand in the beach before I got there.


Crazy I know! It must be an all powerful magician what scribbled two letters in the sand..obviously

Not waterbugs. Not Some Guy, not me in a weird instance of forgetting things or just flat out seeing things..even though we do that, alot....


Nope. The omnipresent master of the universe. Must be that, because the only other thing it could be..is Random™....and it just can't be random.........

You still don't get itnas you are so naive. Ice crystals not water I presume you mean to say is NOT a system. If it is what are the functionalities?

Why didn't you respond to my questions?
When you see a house, you don't assume it built itself
When you see a helicopter, you don't assume metals just randomly glued themselves together
When you see a computer, you doesn't ever thing itself assembled itself.

All these are systems any one can say the function of their components.

As per Islam and Muslims, I will always expose their Taqqiyya hoping that their eyes will open.
A Muslim facing judgement will ask me:
"TenQ, when you knew that I was in error, why didnt you say anything!?"
I am sure that with heavy guilt, my only response would be "I'm sorry!"
But "sorry" when it's too late and the die is cast!?

It would be wickedness on my part. So also with Atheists and anyone who is in danger of eternal damnation!

It includes you Buda! (With respect)
Mat 16:26:
"For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?"

budaatum:
Good things are never easy, TenQ. And that's why we trust God and do the work God empowers us to do by learning all that God teaches us.

Though remember I did say God would never create me to "be fruitful and multiply and rule" and then ask me to be ignorant and demote me to work naked in a Garden.

[quote author=budaatum post=116828080]I've been watching the Queen's funeral all day. Now, those Brits sure are fruitful and do multiply and most certainly do rule, with the powers invested in them by God I dare add, considering the two services in two churches.

God does not require your unclothedness. God clothed you in His own glory but as you pertook of the fruit, your outer garment was removed and you remained naked. Shame made you see that you weren't exactly different from the animals. After all, From the earth you were made
You didn't just loose your covering, you lost your kingdom. By you command you couldn't effect changes anymore, like a servant, you had to till your own ground.

Death is separation/disconnection from God's glory , your authority, your covering!

Here above is the meaning!

Like I said:
The Body, Soul and Spirit need different knowledge, experience and work.

If I pray 20 hours a day, my spirit may be strong BUT God will not break protocols to feed my body. And intact, my soul will no longer be useful on earth of my body pack up.

Our problem as a nation is that we refuse to do the right things for the right purpose.

An nation that would be great must invest in research and scientific knowledge, engineering and good governance. No amount of prayers will confer greatness upon a nation except they had inherited it (and even then, it must dissipate with time).

On earth we must master the earth through knowledge of science and technology with purpose. But since we don't live on earth indefinitely, we must prepare for our eternal place with God.


2Cor 4:18:
"While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal."

And here lies the way
John 3:15:
"That whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life."

Near1:
The water is made of regularly interacting molecules. The crystal developing, ditto. This is you trying to deploy semantics to obscure your absolute lack of evidence for your deity. This is a particularly inane reply.

You fall my hands again big time.

Water molecules now a system!?

Do you understand what you are even writing?

Let me ask you, what is the function of the water system (for every system has a purpose)?
To help you;
A House is a very SIMPLISTIC system!
It has a roof to protect against sun and rain
It has windows for visibility and ventilation .
It has doors for security
It may have specialised compartments as sleeping rooms, kitchen, latest rooms etc

What is the function of "water system"?

Near1:
When you're appealing to hypotheticals as "evidence" to support your claim, that pretty much tells me you do not have any real evidence. The real systems here on Earth that you claim point to your god's existence are fairly well-explained by our current knowledge without including what Occam would call your needless entity.

Please tell me you have something more thoughtful than this tripe. I'm finding this conversation tiresome, as if I got stuck back into college with someone who doesn't belong there.

You've said nothing here!

You are a system consisting of eyes for navigation, limbs for mobility, nostrils for perception of smell, ears for hearing etc. A wonder of God.

A bacteria is a system consisting of every part to inject food, to reproduce, to move, irritability, respiration, excretion etc

It still doesn't dawn on you that these are SYSTEMS and as such could not be a product of random collection of atoms!?

SMH!
I'm so so sorry for you!

Near1:
Of course you are; you mentioned DNA.



Good because you clearly don't know your ass from third-base about it.



Yes, and I've pointed out several examples, to which you run to a dictionary and erroneously claim my examples don't fit. Now you wish to mention DNA as intelligent design but refuse to consider any other possible explanation. I don't care for dishonest conversation.



No. I also would not assume that an invisible, all-knowing, all-powerful, outside-the-universe psychopath wrote it there. You know what I'd do? I'd do what you and so many other believers seem incapable of doing; I'd say "I don't know how that got there" and start looking into it. Quit flogging Paley's tired old talking-point. If you cannot see systematic complexity without seeing god, I'd suggest you pull your head out of your ass and look around.



How very apt.

It's a stupid question that demonstrates how afraid of uncertainty you are.

DNA is now evolution!?

You must have mixed me up with someone as I did not use your examples for anything nor did you even present any credible examples!

DNA is a library of DATA and INSTRUCTIONS for the growing, building, maintenance and sustenance of cells in an organism. It is an example of a Complex System.

The question I asked you which you've been dodging is:

Whenever you see a complex system or meaningful interaction of data and instructions, do you assume it happened by accident or that a non-intelligent source made it?

Tamaratonye1:
Rejected. Existential fallacy, because, existence of your god not yet demonstrated. Also, unsupported assertion.


Rejected. People break your alleged god's laws every minute of the day, all around the world. No "binding" demonstrated.


Then why should we take them seriously?


Unsupported assertion. I have never seen any credible evidence for miracles.

Do you need to accept anything!?
No!

As it doesn't change the truth.

Tamaratonye1:
No, that's a failing mark in Primary 6 math, lol.

Thanks for the observation: corrected!

Logic is very simple
If A>B (Postulate 1)
and
If B>C (Postulate 2)
THEN
A>C (Conclusion)

Tamaratonye1:
My concerns were not for the well-being of the animal but rather that of society as a whole. No smart society allows potential rapists to start with animals and work their way up.


And I am stating that there can be no circumstances where bestiality poses no harm to society, so that condition is simply silly. You might as well ask if murder would be aceptable if it didn't harm society. It makes as much sense.

They can use barrier methods now and the universe would be safe. LOL!
We can even have mandatory medical examination for both man and animal to make it very safe. LOL!!

Are you underestimating our medical knowledge to make copulations between man and animals safe?

Tamaratonye1:
I tried to tell you that the question likely makes no sense. You are asking "What is the cause of causality?" which is slightly sillier than wondering what the weight of your shadow is.


Except that "uncaused causes" are as irrational and impossible as infinite regress. This should indicate that your "simple logic" has failed under non-trivial circumstances and that you're going to need something a little more robust. Instead, you've taken an obvious mistake, given it a name, and granted it dominion over you.

Your only alternative then is to conclude that infinite regress of cause and effect is the reality (even though the law of entropy is grossly violated).

I didn't ask you what the cause of causality is:
I only asked if an infinite regress of cause and effect is possible either logically or scientifically!

Tamaratonye1:
Sorry, but no. It's an evolved instinct upon which later social development is based as you grow.

You're a social animal descended from other social animals. Your ancestors survived by developing instincts against anti-social behaviours and toward pro-social behaviours. You inherited these instincts. You can see this in very young children who, despite being very cute, are a bunch of little sociopaths.

Can you please show the Evidence to prove that conscience EVOLVED and from what?

LOL!

Tamaratonye1:
Possibly an arranged marriage, with the ceremony and consummation to occur at a later date.

Regardless, this does not eliminate the problem of your evil little god-thing forcing itself upon her - with that kind of power imbalance, it's coercion rather than consent - the divine equivalent of holding a gun to someone's head.

And it was a Christian myth!?

Seriously!?

Tamaratonye1:
How do you measure how complex a system is?

Complexity is relative my dear: I'm surprised you didn't know that!

Tamaratonye1:
BTW, I'm willing to bet that you can't name a single objective moral. I'm doubly willing to bet that you can't name one that wasn't violated thrice in your "holy" book.

Every moral law of God has and will be violated by man.
Even as a Christian, we many times violate God's laws!

"Love your neighbour as yourself" is a law I struggle to keep for I'm naturally selfish... LOL!

Tamaratonye1:
Can you quote an authority on the matter who believes as you do? Don Lincoln conducts research in particle physics at Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, and was an adjunct professor of physics at the University of Notre Dame, although he is no longer affiliated with the university. You've just contradicted him on a subject on which he is an authority.

I hope you've got something better than this lame rebuttal up your sleeve, though I'll bet dollars to donuts you don't. We don't know if time, space, and matter were created simultaneously. The universe existed at the time of the big bang. We can't go far enough back in the history of the universe to answer the question you ask. That you even ask it shows that you are buttfuckingly ignorant about the subject. Care to provide further demonstration of your deficient schooling, low intellect, and just general failings on every subject that you've chosen to address here?

Can you please quote Prof. Don Lincoln where he says space, time and matter "evolved independently"...LOL!

midnight378:
It's "misinterpret" . You forgot to say how.


No if they're objective .
Not if your god meets the definition of a god.
There are no gods.
You have to demonstrate that first.



The answer is no to both . your answer is meaningless drivel.


actually no . ALL Biblical Scholars say miracles are totally natural events in which a non-believer see nothing unusual, and a believer sees the hand of god operating . As I said the VERY BASICS escape you.



if you had written a little slowly you would not have written "eclxample". What ? you're so uneducated you can't use a spell checker ?



Nope , your distinctions are irrelevant.
You are totally ignorant of science, religion, history, ethics, the Bible, and morality .
Good luck to you .

You can't force your definition and whims on God's nature and moreover an objective law is not binding over the giver of the law as to him, it is subjective.

If the claim of God as omnipotent is true, by your claims, he should be bound by laws He created (against His nature)!?

Sorry sir. The explanation is solid enough. A law set by a government is subjective to the government but objective to the citizens! If it is difficult for you to comprehend this, too bad as you are beyond help

midnight378:
You wish.
the POINT was and is that you have not demonstrated the logic you chose to use applies to what you know nothing about ... the environment in which the gods exist . You know nothing about that (potential) environment, or which of the many logics apply to that reality ... Dr. Sean Carroll schooled WL Craig about this in their debate, and Craig had no answer. i never expected you, ignorant of all the fields you know nothing about, would have any answer to it . Thanks for proving me correct.

https://www.haverford.edu/sites/default/...reason.pdf

It is easy to falsify a logic that is not sound: be my guest and stop beating about the bush

midnight378:
highly complex systems have been observed to have evolved, (and replicated) with no designer .
Many highly complex systems, (for example human bodies and their components) have been shown to be very poorly designed .....
Yet another field of your ignorance.

Evolution is a complex system morphing with time into another complex system.

1000WaysToLive:
YOU SAID: "The rule is subjective to them but to the citizens, the same law is OBJECTIVE to them"

Still not what that means.


YOU SAID:
"Hope you understand now"

I understand, that you've misunderstood.

I also think you're missing an opportunity here, to become familiar with the language of realism - of objectivity.

I'll ask again.

Do you think that a moral code being subjective means that there's nothing really wrong with [insert monstrous things here] or..as I suspect, do you think that there really is, and you're just not properly communicating yourself?

You are making no sense here.

However about if an objective law can be wrong (if I get you correctly).

It's all about Design and Purpose of the Custodian/Owner/Manufacturer of the people concerned.
Example:
The maker of an internal combustion engine says use Petrol Only as fuel?

Is he (the manufacturer) wrong?

Does it mean that one cannot use other fuel type such as Butane, Alcohol or Kerosene?

The question truely is:
Was the engine designed to use alternate fuel? And
Is it in the best interest of the engine to use alternate fuel?

The manufacturer cannot in that sense be wrong!

Can the Government be wrong in giving objective laws to the people?

nairavsdollars:
https://independent.ng/i-will-mobilise-all-nigerian-youths-to-work-for-tinubus-victory-in-2023-yahaya-bello/

As if he has the control over Nigerian youths!

budaatum:
Thank you.

Worshipping God, by which I mean, loving one's neighbour, requires a lot of work, especially if one has to stand there and be slapped on both cheeks many times.

Below is me adding to the immense work you have listed above. If I did no work I could easily say I believe all I posted and you would claim I am saved, but I rather show you my works than what I claim to believe in my head, for as a very wise person wrote, show me your faith and I will show you .......

Not easy to love your enemies
Not easy to pray for those who curse you
Not easy to forgive those who wrong you
Not easy to live right by obeying God's commandments

But all are possible when we simply trust God and know that he who Keeps his life will lose it.
Whatever is seen is temporal and the unseen is eternal.

In that strength I carry my cross daily and joyfully to follow Christ!

MasterJayJay:
Source> https://saharareporters.com/2022/09/18/lagos-ibadan-train-nigerian-railway-spends-about-n4-million-diesel-alone-daily-makes-n17

See how the clueless government blame Ukraine for price of diesel?

[quote author=envoymedia post=116818728][/quote]This one na upper CUT!

1000WaysToLive:
If a moral code is subjective, there's nothing really wrong with things like incest, rape, murder, what have you.

Is your gods moral code subjective?

Is there nothing that's really wrong with any of that?

As far as having reasons. So what? Crazy ex's that slash tires have their reasons too.

What is that supposed to have to do with objective morality?

I believe I am not making myself clear and explicit.

1. God's moral laws for man is Objective for man.
The implication:
We can't modify God's law, not explain it away. God's law of morality binds us absolutely

2. God's moral law for man is Subjective to God.
The implication:
God can modify the laws he gives you man (even though He seldom does that). God has every right to change His law to man. God is NOT subject to His own laws.
As an example:
A Miracle is the suspension of the Natural laws set by God for a purpose.

I hope I've made myself clearer now!

budaatum:
"Smart working" you said, which I'll assume means work unless you say otherwise, and "through adequate preparation", which is more work.


If you consider the words you wrote above, you'd find work is involved in them all. One can't have or do any of them without working at it and belief is not work.

We also touched on the Fruits of the Spirit earlier, which you said you had, and I doubt you'd claim you acquired them through belief without doing any work. Just to know what the words mean alone requires you ask and knock and seek which is work, and the fact you have to use your heart and soul and mind and being implies quite a lot of work indeed unless you want to claim your Fruits of the Spirit fell on you like manna from heaven.

TenQ, the first work of a Christian is reading the Bible. And I am suggesting it is a lot of work because it is a big book which many fail to read from the beginning to the end unless they work. Then they have to do the work to understand what they read which is a lot of work I say, and that's apart from living, which is definitely work if one wants to live by every Word of God since God writes a lot and in a rather difficult way for the lazy to understand and especially if one understands that God writes on to the entire universe, which requires a lot more work just to know it's extent.

Taking up one's cross is definitely work especially if one's cross is made of quality heavy wood. And I think one can clearly see those who do not do any work. Or don't you think so?

Those who work not talk like a child and think like a child and reason like a child and never do the work so they can grow and become adults who put the ways of childhood behind them.

Actually, this need no argument.

It takes effort to develop either the body, the soul or the spirit of a person: No doubt about that!

An athlete who decides to read his way into a sprint or a marathon race has already failed in his mission.

Let me give you what the scripture says:
2Pet 1:5-10:
"And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that you shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But he that lacks these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and has forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. Why the rather, brothers, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if you do these things, you shall never fall:"

chryssanthe:
I like how you skirt around specific problems and sink into nonsensical nebulous posts!

You do realize that what you term as "objective morality" is based on your own judgment and interpretation of the bible or whatever god you believe in. There are thousands of different Christian denominations each interpreting the Bible differently and the objective moralities of one denomination's version of god is a different objective moralities than another denomination's and also different than yours.
There are evangelical denominations who believe in beating children per Deut. 21:18 -21. I know, I had to deal with one of these insane groups.
Other deniminations are horrified by this.

There is no such thing as objective morality when you have a god who hides and relies on biased, flawed human beings writing down what he wants people to do!

You are still clutching on straws to stay afloat.

What Christians have always taught is that GOD is the Source of Objective Morality for Man.

Every law is SUBJECTIVE to GOD Himself as He reserved the right to set such as He wills.

Even if you hate God enough to disagree with it, let me give you an example from the Government.

Every law in a Country is Subjective to the Government.
Note: Remember that there was a time when putting on of face mask was mandatory.

However, every law set by the Government is an objective law to the citizens.
Note:
Why do Nigerian drivers drive on the right of the road rather than on the left? FYI We used to drive on the left like in Britain and Japan in Nigeria.

Slow down and comprehend this : it is a simple concept.