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budaatum:
Ask TenQ. He might point you to a thread where we engaged similar ignorance to yours in an Islamic thread.

And the fact you have to swear an oath in their section before you comment shows how much wiser and organised they are than you are.

Sixfiguresmart:
Good point!
I always knew that the quran itself is self-destructive. It can singlehandedly take down Islam by itself.

Hit them hard bro. Islam believes in the word SMITE hahaha. Smite them really hard and make them feel disillusioned with the quran.

The Hadith is a comic relief for me. Expose the liars big league.

Emmamay10:
That is cool. The queen continues to make history even after death. This shows that many people are interested in her final journey to the great beyond.

Kobojunkie:
2. Even water may have adverse reactions to some folks but that ain't enough of a reason to tell any or everyone not to drink water, is it?

3. I don't think it is the marriage counselors job to do the job of medical practitioners who are better able to examine the couple and best recommend contraceptive methods of best fit. q

Kobojunkie:
1. How exactly did you arrive at the conclusion that the injection is what led to the barrenness? https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/contraception/contraceptive-injection

2. I don't think a marriage counselor should be giving that kind of advice to anyone since you have no medical license to decide these things for anyone. That's my opinion.

What you call chemicals are hormones many of which the body already produces for itself and others we ingest through other means. So putting fear of chemical forms of contraception some of which are more effective than the objects of contraception is akin to advising them not to use contraception at all.

budaatum:
The Jizya tax was a tax on non-Muslims, and which this hadith is claiming to abolish, and no where does pig mean Jews except in the minds of idiots.

You would not after all claim Jesus sent demons into Jews when he is written to have [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%208%3A28-34&version=NIV]cast out demons into pigs [/url], so why assume pigs in that hadith refers to Jews, especially when the abolishment of the Jizya tax was to stop those same Jews from paying the tax?

Sixfiguresmart:
Bro, it is not myth. The Kaaba was a temple of the moon god Hubal or allah. The Bible referred to it as Molech. A god to which sacrifice of babies were made. If you look it up you can see how it stretches its hands to receive babies. Mohammed's father could have been sacrificed to Hubal too.

Now, the Quran was a book used in the quran as a scripture for the worship of the moon god, Hubal or allah and the 360 subordinate gods. Some of it's manuscript also came from Syria, where Sopdet or Sirius was being worshipped too. So, a melange of these satanic scriptures, in addition to plagiarized words from the Bible is what make up the quran. If you look in it, you will see constant reference to the Bible, references to al-lat, al-uzza and manat.

Those people kept the Hellenistic traditions but refined it to deface the idols. They are the ones who defaced all those idols in the Arab zones.

The quran plagiarizes the Bible big league and that is why you see a constant repetition of the same words (e.g allah is all.... )

Kobojunkie:
1. What family planning method did your friend do?

2. React to what particular drug? Condoms? Birthcontrol pllls, IUD.... you have to be specific about what it is she will react to?

Are the side effects worse than Pregnancy or STDS?

gshsj:
Can u tell us the danger?
Some family planning is reversible so what are u talking abt.
In developed country, most pornn stars do temporary family planning...pls the gal did the right thing to not fall pregnant if its a temporary one she did.... that's smart of her in my opinion

Sixfiguresmart:
Bro, it is not myth. The Kaaba was a temple of the moon god Hubal or allah. The Bible referred to it as Molech. A god to which sacrifice of babies were made. If you look it up you can see how it stretches its hands to receive babies. Mohammed's father could have been sacrificed to Hubal too.

Now, the Quran was a book used in the quran as a scripture for the worship of the moon god, Hubal or allah and the 360 subordinate gods. Some of it's manuscript also came from Syria, where Sopdet or Sirius was being worshipped too. So, a melange of these satanic scriptures, in addition to plagiarized words from the Bible is what make up the quran. If you look in it, you will see constant reference to the Bible, references to al-lat, al-uzza and manat.

Those people kept the Hellenistic traditions but refined it to deface the idols. They are the ones who defaced all those idols in the Arab zones.

The quran plagiarizes the Bible big league and that is why you see a constant repetition of the same words (e.g allah is all.... )

Sixfiguresmart:
surah 80:19 He created them from a sperm-drop, and ordained their development.
Surah 30:20 And of His Signs is that He created you from dust and behold, you became human beings, and are multiplying around
Surah 56:57 It is We Who created you. Will you not then believe ˹in resurrection˺?
Surah 56:57 We have created you, then why would you not confirm it?

Who is the creator, HE, WE or I?

Surah 18:60 And ˹remember˺ when Moses said to his young assistant, “I will never give up until I reach the junction of the two seas, even if I travel for ages.”

Where are these seas located?

budaatum:
No TenQ, I don't know the above.

Wanna show me the Muslim theology that say so so we know you are not lying?

Sixfiguresmart:
Very proud man you are. "YOUR JESUS"!!?? How demeaning is that? Isn't this the same Jesus that Mohammed acknowledged was a prophet? If Jesus lived during the time of Mohammed, he would have killed Jesus before he turned 30 years. We do not have a problem with the Jews cos' they are not in a bid to take over the world. It is Islam that is coming to kill us all and smite our necks. Jews have a small population in comparison to other religions. Islam would have been smaller than that size if not for the wars and bloodshed and violence. What you are trying to do essence is to build a victim mentality in his head to break down his defense line. Bro, Tenq it is called Dawah tactics. Do not fall for that. I wonder why you do not respond to me. You act brave, yeah!

Muslims in act serve mohammed but profess not to vocally. Even at his grave his garment was sacred to one of them who laid on his grave and swore no one would ever wear his jalabiya.

budaatum:
Jews also claim they serve the God of Abraham, don't they, and they don't seem to care about your Jesus.

If satan behaves badly towards Jesus, I am certain, or rather, I hope you would not behave like satan and claim you do so in support of your Jesus just as you are behaving like the Muslims you claim are attacking your Jesus, because no where does it say darkness (ignorance) is what you should use to overcome the ignorance of others.

It does not matter what Muslims claim just as what the Romans claimed or did not claim did not matter to Jesus neither. Muslims after all do not claim they serve Jesus nor do they worship him.

budaatum:
Isn't it amusing that Jesus was saying the above to those he shared a faith and religion with, and not those who did not worship his God, like the Romans for instance. Same way I am talking to you and not the Muslims who don't read the book I've been quoting.

If Jesus were to say the same things today, it would be to you Christians and not the Muslims.

budaatum:
Jesus has not risen from the dead if those who worship him crucify him again and again by not doing his will which is the will of the father who sent him.

And it is not for anyone to tell you if Jesus rose from the dead or not unless you yourself give them the power to proclaim whether he rose from the dead or not, since you ought to know better.

Jesus has shown you what you should do. Whether you do it or not is entirely up to you.

budaatum:
TenQ, you are funny. You know full well that there are Christians who do not believe all you listed above. Besides, they are merely beliefs, so why should that be important when the fact is that there are many Christians who believe what you've listed above but go on to do the things Christians should not be doing as I've been shown here?

Please, I am done here. Time for me to leave you believers to your beliefs. All I've learnt here is that I must never ever consider becoming a Christian like you and the op, since it seems to mean abandoning your Christian teaching and doing what you are condemning the Muslims of doing.

budaatum:
What is hurting is how you and the op are turning what you should have learnt from reading your Bible upside down in your attempt to challenge ignorance.

There is no truth in what you and the op are claiming, and just as there are ignorant Muslims who don't read or understand their Qur'an, are there obviously Christians who do not read or understand their Bible nor do what it says in it that they should do, as you and the op who clearly has not read the Qur'an are proving here.

budaatum:
If what they say has any effect or bearing on you, like if they say there is no God, and your God then stops existing, I suppose you must not keep quiet so your God does not disappear in a puff of smoke. But if you understand that what anyone says does not change the facts as you know them, then you would not bother responding to ignorant people because it has no effect whatsoever in the facts as you know them.

Ablemed:
I'll like to make my story short as possible without much introduction tho. And also a lesson parents/ new couples should learn from my ordeal, Pls read to the end.

Alright So I'm the only male born of my parent among 4 girls, i also happen to be the last born at it. my problem started when growing up, cause my parent aged bfr getting a Male child which was my Dad and his parent cravings, I was pampered when growing up such that my parents would never watch me do stressful things, dictate when I go out and who I moved out with (My mum's own was even worse cause when growing up, if I want to go out, she'll always send me back inside) even during secondary school they had to get a school very close to our house. my sisters were only the ones that would go to mum's shop and make sales while mum would either stay with me at home or if I eventually go the shop sef I'll always sit and just watch. Literally, I'll say I was denied the right to be exposed to lotta things and real issues about life.

And cause I was not the sociable type cause I'll literally stay at home, watch movies, eat and my movements limited, I was exposed to pornography and masturbation at a very young age and I battled that bad habit thr my University days (Did I say my Parents also dictated the University I went to cause it was close to our House to and any small riot in school then the next hour they'll come and pick me back home till every thing dies down)

So guys over time, I've grown to be this boring guy who is shy, timid, suffering from low self esteem and can't give vibe even when gisting with my fellow guys, in which most of them just relegate me to this small boy level. Did I also say I've never had a Girlfriend all my life cause the truth is ion always know what to say or how to maintain talking vibe. At first I decide not to care and just always console myself with I was created like that and just continue my boring life, it has now gotten to the point I'm not rated in anything at all, most people just make friends with me cause of what they can gain from me, I'm not even good in anything, I can't speak clearly, I'm kinda literally mentally dumb and ion see me useful for anyone or anything, perhaps maybe God only, No business sense, no work skill or experience, no trade experiences to

I'm currently a Corp member serving and before then I rebelled against my parent cause they wanted to dictate the state I serve which is our state of residence so I go to my ppa from home but I told them No and even got to a fight to my Dad cause of this issue and we din speak for like 2weeks, he eventually called me and we settled. But the issue now is guys I've got less than two months left for my POP for service and you don't expect me to return home useless to my parent house again?? Tho sincerely thr my service year, I din touch my allowee so I've saved up to 270k so far. the issue is ask me what I want to do with the money? I've got no idea, what business sense or idea? Nothing is coming to my head, infact I don't know. The funny thing is, my roommate is exactly my opposite, very outspoken, bold, full of vibe and bring back different female friends each day, this guy is not really financially buoyant but you see girls cook and travel all the way to give him for us to eat. I just wish I was like him, i wish i had the vibe

I'm 24years now and at this age, no idea bout my future, bout life, I can't even relate with people, I'm just so sad, depressed and frustrated. At the moment the only job coming to my head is the military cause I served in a military barrack cause I choose it myself but most of the junior officers are trashing my interest by telling me not to waste my time say I no go survive am with my nature, that military needs tough people and endurance bla bla and on the other hand, my mum is saying Never she'll never allow me join the military not over her dead body and she's bout recruiting my Dad to and Sincerely I'm frustrated and my depression have taken another turn that over the past weeks I've been thinking suicide and it's getting really high, I say I should type this here bfr the worse happen cause if I can't be useful for myself what really is the point living??

Please this advice is to parent and intending parent/couples, pls and pls expose ur children to life, don't over pamper your kids, work on them to make them sociable and outspoken, I swear you'll be doing them a great favour. For me I thought my parent loved me, I thought they were trying to protect me but they've put me in a deep mess I have to face alone and just I pray I get the opportunity to make things right with me

budaatum:
What the op has said is very not true and is based on ignorance of Islam, but moreso of his own Christianity.

My advice is that you and he inform yourselves, but you do not have to if you think you already know enough.

budaatum:
TenQ, you Christians deceive yourself and don't need Muslims to help you.

God created you to “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground”, but you've somehow convinced yourselves that you must be descendants of enslaved Adam, working naked in a tiny garden while refusing to eat the fruit that would give you knowledge to be fruitful and increase and fill and subdue and rule for fear that you might die, despite it written that it is ignorance that kills..

That's why you can not rule over your emotions and how you treat your neighbours. If you did know, you would kill them with love.

budaatum:
Those Muslims you say are "tearing down the core doctrines of Christianity" and asking you to "accept the Islamic narratives" must be very powerful people indeed, TenQ. If they say God does not exist would they have torn down your God too?

Pity is, you seem to have abandoned your Christian doctrine yourself so they must have succeeded too because instead of you upholding your Christian doctrine you seem to want to become like them and do as they seem to do.

I don't think one should challenge ignorance with one's own ignorance as this op is doing. Besides, is it now Christian doctrine to slap harder those who slap you?

Below is some Christian doctrine that I would have you consider. Do let me know if you don't think the op is not doing its opposite and become like those he is attacking.

budaatum:
The below is what the Bible teaches about those who despise others and think they themselves are righteous.

https://www.nairaland.com/7323341/please-me-beg-muslims-answer#116500296

DOTian:
This is no more unknown gunmen thing. This is now obviously a gang up against the east. Unfortunately, Igbo elites are still drinking from that One Nigeria koolaid to use their brains.

Some people outside Igbo land who are desperate to dictate to the igbos are now hiding under the cloak of unknown gunmen to wreck havoc. This is the same people that killed Dora Akunyilis husband.

A war has been declared against the East in other to force the east back to 1970 and the sooner the Igbo elites appreciates this fact and come out with a solid response, the better for them .

MaxInDHouse:
There is a misconception regarding what Jesus said @ Matthew 24, most Bible scholars were confused because the text mistranslated "COMING" could be best rendered "PRESENCE"
Jesus' modern day disciples also got it wrong and for years they had the misconception that Jesus will COME in person but when they later discovered that the text was talking about his PRESENCE they readjust their views.

First of all we need to know what happened immediately Jesus left the earth after saying "Goodbye" to his first century Jewish disciples.
He went straight to heaven and took his position at the right hand side of Almighty God! Act 7:56 compare to Psalms 110:1

So what is the result of Jesus' prophecy at Matthew 24?
First of all Jerusalem must be punished for all the atrocities committed against God's ancient servants and most especially against God's anointed one (Jesus Christ) Matthew 23:37-38
After the destruction of Jerusalem in the first century the Israelites were scattered abroad so their hope as a nation to welcome another Messiah is gone which means they've lost their chances of getting acquainted with the Christ except for few Jews who were able to recognize the Christ when he was in their midst! Matthew 16:13-20

But Jesus' PRESENCE will still be longer than that. WHY?
Because he must first oust nonentities in the spirit realms {Revelations 12:7-12} in preparation for his co-rulers who will be taken to heaven where he promised them {John 14:1-4} when this occur the first to go are his born again brothers who are still sleeping in death then one after the other those living among that set will join them after their earthly course! 1Thessalonians 4:16

But what will all these mean for Jesus' disciples who are going to inherit everlasting life on the earth? Matthew 5:5 compare to Psalms 37:29

Jesus must continue to guide them until the end of wicked people and their badness so he has to be PRESENT {Matthew 18:20} as a mighty spirit King directing them through the remains of his born again brothers who are still running their earthly course! Matthew 24:45

Since 1914 Jesus has returned to this planet as a mighty spirit King directing his true disciples on what they must keep doing until it's time to exterminate all opposers of his rule {Luke 19:27} that's why they are no part of the world's political movements killing one another due to the selfish ambitions of the rulers they elected upon themselves! Revelations 6:3-4

So today Jesus is here working with his own group and gathering obedient mankind from all the corners of the earth under one umbrella! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

They are now worshiping their God unitedly as their mighty spirit warrior King Archangel Michael (Jesus Christ) {Daniel 12:1-3} is leading them to victory over mankind's greatest enemy Satan the devil! Revelations 6:1-2 compare to Revelations 12:7

Good morning OkCornel, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

ochibuogwu5:
For those saying God created death

Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely *die*.

This is the passage that he used to justify such assertion but I suppose that he is wrong.
Death is the consequence of disobedience and not the creation of God.


God did not create anything and called it his enemy thus "And God saw every thing that he had made and behold it was very good..." (Genesis 1:31) and death is defined by the scriptures as the last enemy that will be destroyed by God thus 1 Corinthians 15:26 "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death."


Death has been swallowed up in victory thus
1 Corinthians 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, *Death is swallowed up in victory*. 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 15:57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Isaiah 25:8 *He will swallow up death in victory*; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.


Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 2:15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.


Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.


Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.


Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Islie:
https://leadership.ng/just-in-customs-intercepts-explosive-making-chemical-military-wares-in-ogun/

Bluffly:
Nigeria will be great

Bluffly:
I concluded by mentioning been enlightened. In this countries they do not buy a car as a proof of been able to do so they buy it based on their needs before ever considering luxury which is the other way round here.
The America you mentioned, the poor buys cars that are 15 to 20 years old with issues to manage and not the clean type you expect most to be buying here.
To shock you, the poor are not really keen on having a car but are constrained to do so because America USA transport system isnt there yet. And mind you old cars are the most expensive way to own a car as it torments the owners economy and life and this is the life of that poor american you mentioned.

The poor in USA is classified as someone earning below $36 a day and there is also what they classify as deep poverty.

Let me shock you. Anyone in Nigeria according to the average standard of the USA earning 8m below annually is poor, half of this is considered deep poverty, and half of this is as well.considerd abject poverty.

So going by this Nigeria must define its own poverty levels in order not to confuse our sense of reasoning and thereafter use it to determine who can afford whatever within set limits

Bluffly:
There is a thin line in everything in life. Not buying a vehicle is not about poverty. There is a difference in basic need of life and want. There are many residents in Abuja for example who don't want to buy a vehicle but choose to commute with colleagues and colleagues as well are sometimes looking for who to hail with and drop their vehicles at times. But you cannot do same with phone so using the circumstances of mobile phones is not tenable.

Go to countries like Netherlands, People are not interested in buying vehicles, those that have do not drive it always because they can commute in the space of public transport that is safe, clean and accessible. We need to be enlightened and stop looking at everything from the angle of rich and poor but rather needs and wants