₦airaland Forum

Gbawe:
Save the pedantism. It does  not work with me. Are you a mind reader to know that "some" excludes Balarabe Musa and includes Fani Kayode? Is Fani Kayode 70? Are you El Rufai's offciial spokesman to know those EL Rufai is adressing?

Like El Rufai, you also should have remained silent instead of offering this lame argument because a logical take of issue means that insulting those who are 40 and 70 , without specifically naming  anyone, covers most attending the conference.

Once again, i'll point you to the word 'some' used by El-Rufai. No one can state with any reasonable certainty that his vitriol covered everyone at the conference. Neither can anyone say that the 40 and 70 represents a range as your last line insinuates.

I am no more of a 'mind reader' or 'spokesman' than you are. I cannot say for certain who he meant the 'f'ool' tag for, but then neither can you! You made an earlier statement that 'Balarabe Musa is one of those he referred to as a fool'. how do you know this for sure?

I myself can identify several fools in that panel. People like Fani-kayode should not be surprised at being labelled as fools. I have had nothing but disdain for Femi Falana after he made that incredibly brainless call demanding that Obama must pay reparations to Nigeria for the trans-atlantic slave trade.

Gbawe:
I too do not think religion or region of origin has a place in this discussion. Let us not forget that Balarabe Musa , a respected Muslim Northerner, is one of those EL Rufai referred to as "old fools".

Spare us this misinformation. El-Rufai used the word 'some'. Where's the certainty that Balarabe Musa was lumped into this category?

Certainly, the likes of Fani-kayode can be aptly described as 'fools'. How else would you describe this incompetent loud-mouth that once told the NASS that occultists were responsible for aviation crashes in Nigeria?

Yes, I have. And it's not as easy as the women make it look

Now I can change diapers pretty good, but bathing my daughter isn't the easiest thing in the world for me. I have never figured out how to bathe her without getting half on the water and soap on me too. I usually have to take a shower after I bathe her

efisher:
Has collecting pension become a crime? The total figure makes little sense without knowing how much each person actually gets.

Why not use your pitiful brains to ask the logical question "How did the money increase by nearly N2bn from N1.2bn in 2011 to N3.1bn in 2012? Did the former Heads of State clone themselves?"

Feraz:
^^^^don't see anything wrong with what she did and someone who understands what motherhood is offers her some amount of money with some papers so maybe years later, she can request for the child. . .and they're getting arrested. . . .we still have a long way to go. . .

Funkymallam:
What crime was committed here? Cant see any.
She willingly gave d child out, since she cnt take care of her and even signed an agreement to get back d child later when she can care for her and she was helped with some cash for upkeeps.
Where is her family?

Before you dolts start raving at the mouth, read the OP carefully. According to the paper, nowhere in the legal document does it state that the child transfer is temporary. It was a permanent arrangement.

The real joke is how Nigerians are going crazy over a rebadged Bold 9900 in a different chassis and with the same issues that plague the Bold 9900 (poor battery life, no macro camera, relatively low screen resolution, poor app selection).

hell, this has a worse keyboard than the OG Bold 9900.

Na wa.

I must now join voices with those people who suspect that this man may not be entirely ok. This is the same man that went to Imo State and PRAISED a thoroughly useless Governor! This same man went to Oyo and showered praises on the Thrice Accursed Alao-Akala!
This same GEJ has NO significant achievements to his name as a Governor of Bayelsa State. Nothing at all!

He's talking about 'stones'. Did he not see Nigerians carrying mock coffins for him just a few weeks ago? Did he not shiver with dread at the baleful and malevolent curses hurled his way by ordinary Nigerians?

Pathetic!

bulksms247:
Nigerian a friend of the USA cause we haven't told you guys to leave our oil alone abi. Cause if we do now we would become ur enemys. CRIMINALS

This is why children should not be posing on Nairaland.

They PAY for our oil as our biggest customer. Without these customers will you drink the oil?
Only on nairaland will u see people call their paying customers Criminals

james1:
@betathings.
You said it all!
To reduce corruption to the bearest minimum is not a big deal,its the entrenched evil interest consisting of some people who have been benefiting all these years that are the "big deal" .
Thank God we have GEJ.

Accursed sycophant! What has GEJ got to do with this? Is this not what your man should have initiated BEFORE even talking about Subsidy removal? If he really was concerned about the ballooning subsidy payments, why did he not rigorously probe these dealings and seek concise and documented answers for why subsidy cash rose from a few hundred billion Naira to over 1.5 Trillion naira?

Nigerians are funny people.
I have not bought Gala for the past 5 years since they made it N50. I refused to believe that that near empty roll of flour and slivers of dubious looking meat was worth N50. Even if I had 1 billion Naira in the bank, I would not buy Gala.

Now it's N70 and you people will grumble and complain and still go and buy the bloody thing. Nigerians should vote with their Naira and force the price to come down.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=861589.msg10107615#msg10107615 date=1328214889]Lol, watching that I think Ellen did the better job.

Michelle's, she didn't get low enough. Your chest is supposed to touch the ground. . . she was moving only about 6-8 inches vertically.

If your body moves that little per pushup, much easier to do lots of them.[/quote]Yeah, but you gotta account for the fact that Michelle is taller and has way longer arms. The elbow flex from both women was about the same, Ellen is just naturally closer to the ground.

Good job from both of them though. Most Naija ppl in politics let themselves go and turn into balls of blubber once dem begin chop money.

Dede1:
Daokuta you are a moronic dirty pig.

Did you grow up around your father? The moment your myopic eyes manage to see anything in skirt, you seem to go deranged. Anyway, I am not surprised by your despicable character. I guess it is just like a son like a mother.

And you show your moral superiority by insulting his mother? Stay classy

GenBuhari:
Reading some of the replies on this thread , I could not help wondering if some of those that replied are not racist whites instead of black Africans.

For any black African who does not see any merit in what Mugabe says and what he stands for, I would ask you to immediately pause and have a good look at yourself.

We need as Africans to gain ability for independent thoughts and views.

Many of us would need to stop adopting the Western perspective on all international affairs and adopt a stance or position best on our own best interests as Africans.

First off, start to question what ever you see on Western media about Africa and Africans.

In my opinion what makes Mugabe the greatest living African alive is that he had stood up to western bullies in much the same way as great African leaders Thomas Sankara,  Patrice lumumba and our own Abacha in the past  have done.

They came to enslave ivory coast, we said nothing because we were not Ivorians, they came for Libya and we said nothing because we were not Libyans.
When they come for us, would there be anybody left to speak up for us?

Africans think wisely, we need to unite abeg!

So Mugabe is the 'greatest living African alive' eh? Even greater than the likes of Nelson Mandela? Even when he plunged his once prosperous nation into famine, inflation and extreme poverty?

You are a brainless dolt! Abeg remove that 'Buhari' from your username lest people begin to think less of the General because of your imbecilic antics.

Knight1:
THIS IS THE ISSUE MANY OF US HAVE WITH THE TERM 'ISLAMIC BANKING'. IT IS DIVISIVE. JUST ON AN ONLINE PORTAL SUCH AS THIS, ARGUEMENTS AND INSULTS ARE CROPPING UP. IN A DELICATE COUNTRY SUCH AS NIGERIA WHERE THERE IS A TERRORIST GROUP OPERATING ALLEGEDLY UNDER ISLAM, ONE WILL WONDER WHY THE WORD "ISLAMIC" HAS TO BE THERE.

Why not insist that the word 'Christian' be excised from 'The Redeemed Christian Church of God'? How can any sane, educated person come out here to say that another man's religion is 'divisive'? Where is the tolerance we Christians fling about as our greatest virtue? You might as well go and demand that the word 'Islam' be forbidden in Nigeria.

The Banking system is Islamic Banking. None of the banks practising this will have the words 'islamic' in their name.

Kenyanstar:
Its now clear that most of the nigerian citizenry is suffering from an inferiority complex. The last time i checked egypt, zimbabwe, iraq & libya were fully flegded properous nations until the western countries interefered. The case of iraq, which was among the most developed country in the arab peninsula is now in ruins. Libya which was the richest & most socially habitable african country is now on the edge of a civil war. Zimbabwe was considered the food basket of south & central africa but due sanctions it has left it in absolute destitution. This countries were distabilised by western powers leaving them in ruins. Show me a single african country that has immensley benefited from america economically.

I wonder why you people reach for the example of Libya when you want to spout all these senseless theories. Why don't you mention Tunisia too? Before Egypt an Libya, there was Tunisia. We saw people power sweep their corrupt leaders from power. We saw the same thing in Egypt where brave citizens stood up to armed attacks and the elements to cast Mubarak out. How dare you trivialize the actions of these Egyptians who occupied Tahrir square as 'western intervention'?

The sanctions placed on Zimbabwe were sanctions targeting the corrupt and malevolent elements of the ruling ZANU-PF. Did any sanctions prevent Zimbabwe from purchasing needed farm equipment and fertilizer?

The blood of thousands of Zimbabweans is on Mugabe's hands. There are at least 3-4 Universities of Agriculture in Zimbabwe. Why did Mugabe not turn over the farms to people well trained in modern mechanized farming instead of handing over farmlands to his illiterate ZANU-PF veterans?

I challenge you too list the sanctions here for us to see.

xcolanto:
The rate at which NLers divert from the article and topic at hand is quite shameful. The subject of the article reads "Mugabe at the African union: Let`s stand up to the west". Yet most people are here blabbing about the local politics in Zimbabwe and farmlands! if anyone does not have anything to say relating to the content and the subject of the thread why not read and pass by than attack the personality of Mugabe rather than discuss the message his trying to pass across. In my own opinion Africans and the A.U should find ways to handle their affairs rather than having the western countries pork-nosing in the affairs of the African continent.

Sorry, but the character of the messenger is very essential.
Would you let the local p.r.ostitute in your area teach your kids Bible Study?

I'll be in Lagos on Saturday. I'll pick it up from you then.

Uche2005:
why did Uzodima Goodhead jr change his name to Mujahid Dokubo

If your name was 'Goodhead', would you not want to change it ASAP?

Horus:
You obviously didn't read the article. The tablet is not designed in China and not designed by Chineses. There is a difference between Produced and Designed.

I know what the guy CLAIMS and what most likely happened. That was how we were told that those 'Nigerian' tablets like the Encipher Inye were designed in Africa, only for it to turn out to be rebadged chinese knockoffs.

Either way, this tablet is not worth the amount quoted for it in the article.

I called you just now. I'll send someone to pick this up from you tommorrow

I keep my word, you can consider this phone sold now

ThiefOfHearts:
Yes it's still going on
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what are you gonna do about it?

Nothing. Just look and laugh at the inanity of it all.

I had a look at the original petition thread. I must say that that Ashley Akunna is a disgrace to Igbo people everywhere. Her arguments are so brainless! How can people stand to sign a petition from that halfwit?

All these 'African' tablets are simply rebadged Chinese generic tablets. As a consumer, the price point these deluded people slap on them is simply laughable. Anyone paying close to 200 pounds for this tablet has to be nigh insane. You can snag far more powerful used dual core tablets for that price.

This inane topic is still raging on?

In a way, this reminds me about the accusing fingers pointed at Tinsel a while ago. There were strong and virulent criticisms directed at the show asking why a Nigerian soap opera would be exclusive on a South African monopolist network (DSTV).
Then it came out that it was the same South Africans that came up with the idea, pitched it to the Nigerians and even provided the financial backing!

Bottom line is that people should be able to put their money where their mouth is. He who pays the piper dictates the tune.

40 years after the Civil war, there's still no big budget feature movie about that event from any Nigerian studios. if tommorrow a hollywood studio decides to release a Civil war movie, will Nigerians start whining about the cast again?

ThiefOfHearts:
Why not?

when Tunde Kelani's Abeni was shown in the African film festival here in New York 6 years ago. It was Yoruba with English subs and it was warmly received.

I would hate it if it was in Igbo language with English subtitles and im sure many others will feel the same.

ThiefOfHearts:
Maybe if you people werent so ashamed of yourselves, you'd do the same.

Why do you keep on parroting this same 'ashamed of yourselves' line? Freudian slip, perhaps?

I have nothing to be ashamed of myself for. It's just a movie after all. I only feel ashamed when I see many of the Nollywood actresses you idolize showcasing their dire acting skills.

At the end of the day, 90% of the misguided folks filling that petition will still end up watching the movie so I see no point to this whining over trivial details.

ThiefOfHearts:
Lol I agree but if Olanna is played by Thandie, how can Genevieve be the twin sister? See why there would be a problem? Everyone in that family would have to be as light as Thandie which CONTRADICTS the book completely.

Yes, the choice of complexion will utterly RUIN the movie! Everyone knows the entire book was all about the family complexion!

/Sarcasm

ThiefOfHearts:
Um at least Sopie Okendo is half Igbo. That would have made more sense.

No one has yet to tell me how a book that clearly states that the family/women they are focusing on are darkskinned can think Thandie is a great choice

so until you can explain how that makes sense to you people, ignore this thread instead of yarning dust

The book says Olanna had 'brown' skin, not DARK. There's a lot of leeway in 'brown'.

I find the idea of someone coming up with a petition on this matter to be pretty imbecilic if you ask me.  The key thing is that the excellent story penned down by Chimamanda Adichie be brought to life in a good way. Why should anyone really be losing sleep about whether a girl's skin is light brown or black? Why not go the whole nine yards and insist that the characters speak their lines in Igbo with English subtitles?


I don't expect a 100% match with the book. As long as the story is not thoroughly bastardised by the producers, i'm fine with that.

Dele99:
Imagine sef people wey wear Brazilian hair,with lipstick and wey dey use skin toning cream dey still blame the director.

SPOT ON!!

ThiefOfHearts:
well Im sorry that you are ashamed of your people

If you refuse to believe there's ANY TALENT in Nollywood, that's your own palava.

Stephanie Okekere could have easily been casted IMO. The girl is supposed to be Igbo and dark. How they came upo with Thandie for that description is beyond me.

If the part was meant for someone to play a witch, a dark women would have been chosen from the beginning

Why don't YOU provide the financing for the movie so you can be in a position to dictate who makes the cast?

People providing the moolah for this venture want tried and trusted actresses that can deliver and that can bring audiences to allow them recoup their investment and people are mentioning Nkiru Sylvanus here. na wa o!

Pove:
There is more to the casting of Thandie Newton in this role than skin color and race. This amounts to continued white hegemony and phenotype genocide.

Igbo women come in a range of colors, yes. But Igbo women also have a certain subset of features, aside from skin color, specific to their ethnic group.

I appreciate this petition because, the way things are socially engineered, the wide phenotype range that exists among blacks in the Western world, or blacks of European admixture/descent (non-sub-Saharan lineages), has evolved a people indifference to specific ethnic differences in looks among indigenous African people. It’s also contributed to the fact that there is a continued genocide of traits specific to our sub-Saharan African ancestors via the social perpetuation of what/who is to be desired aesthetically – i.e, how they align/measure along the rule of white-ness or European-ness.

The issue of certain physical traits specific to our indigenous unmixed sub-Saharan ancestors start being bred out of a population of SSA descent is a recurring one. This has happened several times among African descended populations, based on the influences that deemed sub-Saharan African features undesirable and unacceptable.

This was applied in Puerto Rico where most of the population bred lighter, and were happy to see a mass exodus of afro-Puerto Ricans during the mid-1900s. This is currently happening in the Dominican Republic in regards to hair texture – any hair texture close in proximity to the hair textures of indigenous un-mixed sub-Saharan peoples is shunned, regarded as ‘dirty’.

This happens, globally, within the black race when people express that they wish to date non-Sub-Saharan descend people, or mixed people, because they desire a posterity with features that are less SSA – lighter skin color, ‘softer’ features, features more averaged between SSA and Nordic Caucasian bloodlines, silkier hair with looser curls, etc…

There’s also the ideal, spanning across the entire aesthetic spectrum of the black race, that having European/Caucasian ancestry is more acceptable (desirable) than not having this ancestry.

This can be seen in the minority, but prominent elite, European descended and identified mixed race population of Angola. While many individuals from this small ethnic group have physical traits close in proximity to the non-mixed sub-Saharan descended counterparts (brown/dark skin color, wide noses, curly and tightly coiled hair, etc…) it’s the fact that they have European ancestry/identity that makes them elite over the rest of the indigenous population.


The same ideal was applied historically when African-American slaves repatriated to African, namely Liberia and Sierra Leone – the Americo-Liberians and Krio. The white Europeans used the close proximity of physical traits between the Africans of Westernized lineage/admixture and the indigenous un-mixed Africans as a way to penetrate the indigenous people, as they were not able to successfully do prior, by putting the new breed blacks in positions of authority over the non-colonized/non-penetrated blacks. The close proximity in phenotypes allowed for more social influence between the two groups, and the white colonialists used this to their advantage.

In recent Black Hollywood history (late 1990s until about 3 years ago), there evolved in casting bias for women of African descent who appeared the have the stereotypeical middle-phenotype biracial look, or who looked racially ambigious. Both looks attribute to lighter skin, more longated facial features OR less sub-saharan African features, slimmer body types, and silker, looser hair textures. There were, at least, 2 documentaries filmed on the matter featuring many seasoned Black Hollywood actresses such as Taraji Henson, Tichina Arnold and Terri Vaughns. The same bias had evolved, in that same time, in the modeling industry as well as in music video casting for the urban market, which primarily targets youth of black African descent.

Collectively, people of sub-Saharan African descent have become passive in this continued genocide – the driving factors being commerce, industry and the all mighty dollar. Thus, people become blind to it in the name of social acceptance and mobility. The media is a major tool applied in conveying the social messages that influence the masses into these practices. Sure, a non-Igbo woman could play the role. But why does she have to be half white? Why is it that anytime Hollywood makes a movie about Africans they can’t be more authentic in their casting? What is wrong with the way non-mixed indigenous sub-Saharan African look that they can’t cast them to portray these parts? There are plenty of well trained, seasoned and talented un-mixed sub-Saharan Africans to choose from both in Black Hollywood, Nollywood, Gollywood, the Black Hollywood of South Africa…even in the Haitian movie industry. So, even among blacks WITH admixture, with European ancestry, and/or with Westernized lineages, why can’t someone with broader features that are closer in proximity to what actually Igbo people look like play this role? Hell, Australia’s movie and film industry has several season, trained and talent Aboriginal actors as well.

This genocide of SSA people has not ended. We need to start speaking out. People need to wake-up.

Genocide?!
Why is Nairaland plagued with addle-brained dolts like this nitwit I just quoted?

Arosa:
Does it make any deference in this case?

Yes, you brainless dolt! The article clearly stated that the Fulani man tried to behead the victim. He lost his hand because he blocked the blade with it.

Then again, why should I be surprised that a man who cannot even spell the word 'difference' (which I could effortlessly spell in JSS1) cannot read written English properly?

Look, we're trying to make a serious movie here and somebody is mentioning Oge Okoye. Just because you folk are used to swallowing down terrible acting and over dramatization everyday in our Nollywood movies!

Arosa:
Why do Hausa/Fulani like to chop off peeps hands?

Why did you not read the article before posting?