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Just to head you off; i got a good IT background

Niggy:
well i can still say people are still un-informed. who says linux is not userfriendly?The lazy i guess?
Let get one thing straight if you like windoze,fine no wahala. if you are for linux, it's yr choice. I ve been using redhat/fedora releases for more than 2 years now and i ve not missed ma windoze. i feel comfortable using the gui and learning the commandline all the time. it's pretty fun having new things to discover and learn about your os and hardware. e.g i just got a philips tv card which i m configuring on my fedora. fine, it's not working out-of-the-box but it's have made me to learn more about tv cards and tuner in such a few time. i now know about bttw and saa7134 tv chipsets and their various tuners. i like learning. But everything is a matter of choice.
People learn windoze in a way, only that there aint much to learn there. Like i ask ma friends back at skol, "what's the difference between you and the female typist at the Student Union Building using windoze?" practically what you can boast about windows as a graduate, they know it too . The computer students in ma school are now running around to get an edge by learning linux. That's it, you sometimes need the edge. i can drop to windoze anytime without worry. So i spend ma precious times learning linux to get the edge.

It's funny how people tend to excuse masochism for enlightenment. the whole purpose of the linux is to give end users a FREE, stable, open source OS, right? and also to serve as a replacement for commercial Operating Systems, right? So why not make the transition from Windows OS to Linux as seamless as possible? Why spend endless man-hours trawling the internet for tips and guides?
it's entirely common for linux users to accuse people who are too busy to do such tomfoolery of laziness. I hold down a challenging job in which i have to supervise lots of people. When i get back from the office or the rig, i expect my computer to do all i want it to do easily, without wasting time typing endless commands in a terminal. What's the point?

I have nothing against linux. But if you must use words like 'Windoze' and 'micro$oft' for Windows users, you have to give them a pressing reason for switching to Linux OS. And besides, the time it takes to update your windows and antivirus and other security patches is far far less than the time you'd take endlessly seeking solutions and typing commands. Make the damn thing more user friendly!
Instead we get these elitist guys all happy in their geekdom, expecting John Q Public to easily jump to Linux OS.
Just look at your reason for switiching to Linux: You want to look different bla bla bla. Who cares if a computer typist knows windows? It's not all about the OS but what you can do with it. There are probably some Typists who can do more tricks with Corel Draw than Bill Gates. So?

Someone coded a media player called mplayer, and the arsewipe couldn't even fit in a GUI. Then we're supposed to jump with glee at it, eh?

I plan to install Ubuntu, Mac Osx and Windows Vista on my laptop soon. That way i can see what all the buzz is about linux. But my primary OS still remains windows until these clowns get their act together. I just hate it when Nigerian Linux users whine that linux is better because its free, when most of these guys have never purchased a windows product int heir lives (no, the N200 cds in Otigba don't count!)

FInally, i must re-iterate i have nothing against linux. I've installed linux on my ipod, my xbox and now my ps3, just to see how it looks and feels. I use the Ps3 linux more often, at least it's the only way i can play vcds on a ps3 . Y'all learnt how to use computers on a windows pc, and if you're a modern gamer you prolly play your games in win xp. show respect. don't get with the linux geeks uber-religious crappy talk and start calling it windoze.

gegan:
man the game is not only good but nice how can i get to download free games like this

and where exactly did you get the notion that the game is free?

so many highly educated people watching home videos, sure seems funny.
anyway, to each his own!

lolz!

Donzman:
If we both have nukes then the nuclear threat is dispersed. . . .Thanks for playing!

You'll never know how close the fingers were to the red buttons at the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis during the cold war.
You'll never know how many drills and fixes had to be instituted to put in place a fail-safe system to prevent a mistake launch. One nuke is all it takes.

In the 90s North Korea test fired a missile which arced over Japan. In the world you envision, considering the fact that a ballistic missile from N korea needs to fly for less than 20 mins to get to Japan, what if the Japanese defense Force interprets such a test as a nuclear launch?

Also, peacekeeping operations, how do you do them? What if Sudan threatens to nuke any african nation that goes near Darfur?

Donzman:
If every nation owns theirs?. . .Yes. If some nations own it and others don't?. . .No.

Well, we'll then need to start seeking out our own nukes too. If we both have nukes then the nuclear threat is dispersed. . . .Thanks for playing!

Nice! According to your logic, since some countries have nuclear weapons, everyone should have! Including those that plunge their countries into unprecedented levels of poverty just to get their hands on a nuclear weapon!

If every nation owns nuclear bombs, then the risk of nuclear holocaust becomes magnified beyond our wildest dreams. The chances of such nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorist organisations like al-qaeda becomes extremely high. Just imagine if they detonate a nuclear weapon in mainland US or in israel. But then again, that doesn't matter to people like you, does it?

all along, people here have based their argument on one thing. nuclear weapons are terribly destructive devices which should not exist. but they do. Luckily for the world, at the moment they are in the hands of stable, prosperous governments (except for N. Korea) and are not likely to be used in the forseeable future, considering the debate still surroundign the use of the bomb in japan many years ago.
with indiscriminate proliferation, nukes could end up in the hands of unscrupulous and trigger-happy nations and organizations, who could plunge the world into fire. a nuclear bomb exploding anywhere, whether in the west or east should concern us all. Preaching proliferation based on such simplistic slogans like "what's good for the goose, ", just to satisfy the current lucrative anti-american and anti-israeli (or anti-semitic) views is misguided in my opinion.

Sure, millitants in Naija Delta carry guns. is the solution to the matter giving everyone guns? Most Nigerians would walk past soldiers or MOPOL with guns slung at their soldiers. WOuld any Nigerian happily walk beside a mad man carrying an Ak 47?

@dblock

Israel doesn't have the largest army in the middle east. The armies of Iran, Syria, pre Iraq war Iraq and perhaps Saudi Arabia are probably larger. What they do have is the best technology in the region and Enough patriotism and resolve to take anybody on. For 2000 years the Jews have been driven from place to place and persecuted. Now they're finally back in their ancestral land and they aren't going to give that up for anybody.
And despite what some of you think, Israel produces lots of its own hi-tech weapons. In fact, one of Israel's main exports is technology. They've driven countries like france mad with their ability to modify and improve existing technologies. France, for example stopped selling mirage jets to israel after the israelis modified and enhanced them above the then capability of the french air force. The Israeli Merkava main battle tank is perhaps the toughest in the world.

I don't think israel will use nukes anytime soon. for one, that would be going too far and would strip it of all support from the United states, their chief ally. Also, israel has constantly denied they have nukes (even though experts speculate they have as many as 100 nukes in underground storage, considering the fact that they assisted South Africa to develop her own nukes).
You're right on one thing. Israel definitely feels threatened by Iran's comments.
The thing is, many of us are armchair generals, we stand aside and condemn. i'm pretty sure if say Libya was making the same genocidal comments about Nigeria, many people here will be up in arms if Libya tries to get Nukes.
Here's a simple chain: if Gadaffi says "All nigerians are roaches, they must be killed in Fire, we must purge the world of the evil Nigerians" and suddenly we hear he's desperately seeking nukes and increasing the range of his missiles to hit nigeria, would we applaud his well-deserved move to obtain a nuke for himself? will we sit still and remain happy?
Will we go on nairaland to protest if we hear that the NDA was drawing up plans to surgically destroy the nuclear plants?

@DOnzman
What was the civillian death 'tool' at the end of the conventional Us - Iraq war in 2003? What's the toll now after 2 years of bloody slaughter among the Iraqis?
Here's a question for you; Do you believe Nuclear bombs make the world safer?

@Gtay
Nice story! I too used to sneak into my dad's room to retrieve all my seized games. Not sure Solid Snake could do it better. I wasn't always successful however; 2 weeks ago my bro called me to say they found an old Game Boy in the house .

I think i saw my first video game in 1991 or so, my neighbours were playing Double dragon on NES, i was so tripped!! When the guy upgraded to SNES, i almsot became a part of the family, i kept dashing over there everyday. After the guy bouoght SF 2 turbo, you'd see like 40 pairs of slippers and shoes outside their door.

Funny enuff, i could never afford to get these games myself. When i finally saved up to buy a SNES, N64 and Psx came out. when i finally saved up to get a PSX, DReamcast came out, when i saved up for the DC, the Ps2 came out. I finally ended up buying 2 ps2s.

Now i've got a ps3 and an xbox360 and i hardly even have time to play 'em anymore

@Afam
I've had to work nights in a supervisory role in an oil rig where everything seems to be going awry, I'm pretty sure my arguments may have deteoriated over the past few posts. It's a pity i let myself get drawn in in a mudslinging match with Donzman. Anyway, i apologize to all for such a blanket insult.

I think i need some sleep . Expect me to tackle issues squarely when my head is clearer.

1) Texazzpete doesn't have anything to do with texas. Many people here will have long figured out where i got the nick from.
Jefferson was in support of slave trade. What did you expect him to say when slaves in America were stirring in response to the Haitian Revolution? Did you read about any american naval blockade of Haiti?
Whether or not the pro-slavery US recognised Haiti or not, Haitians should have had enough resources to be self-sufficient. They Did! A series of bloody internal conflicts of their own making crippled them, not any American plot like you try to paint.
if you still insist that Haiti's troubles stem from their 'isolation' in the 1800s, what happened when the rest of the world recognised them?
Here's an excerpt from wikipedia:

The charismatic black leader Jean-Bertrand Aristide was elected president in 1991, but was deposed in a coup shortly after. There followed three years of brutal control by a military junta led by Raoul Cedras, before a second American invasion and occupation in 1994 returned Aristide to power. One of the first acts of the re-installed government of Aristide was to disband the army, to great popular acclaim.

Aristide was succeeded by a close ally and former prime minister, René Préval, in 1996. While Aristide was the first democratically elected president in Haitian history, Préval's administration was most notable for the fact that he was the first person in Haiti's history to constitutionally succeed a president and then serve a complete term, leaving office voluntarily at the prescribed time. Every previous president had either died in office, been assassinated, been deposed, overstayed his prescribed term, or been installed by a foreign power.

Note the parts in bold. It's clear that Haiti's problems are largely of their own making, with internal strife being the order of the day.
If the Duvaliers were such buddies of America, why did Jean Duvalier (papa doc) go round telling people he killed Kennedy with voodoo? Why did he keep a jar in his basement he claimed kennedy's soul was trapped in?

I have nothing against Mugabe, but there's such a thing as doing things right! Obviously you see nothing wrong in the way he handled the situation in the country. Why wouldnt the world alienate him? If Nigeria suddenly drives off SPDC, Chevron, Elf and Mobil and seizes their assets, do you think the international community would not react with extreme outrage?


till this day, there are arguments for and against the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombing, but less than 300000 people died in both, a far cry from the terrible death toll that would have been racked up in a protracted land war. Doubt the figures? In the battle for some small islands near the Japanese mainland, here are the casualty figures in the battle for Iwo Jima: 6800 US Marines Killed, 21000 japanese Killed. Unremarkable, right? Wrong! 90% of the casualties were suffered in the first 4 days and over 90% of all japanese troops were killed because they refused to surrender even when they were beaten.
At the battle of Okinawa, 7000 US troops and 5000 Us navy sailors were KIA and MIA. SO you can see why the use of the Nuclear bomb seemed so attractive.
I'm not excusing it. but it was a wartime decision to use whatever means in their arsenal to bring an end to a war the whole world was weary of. And after this, so many checks and balances were put in place for the use of an atomic weapon again. The US president cannot unilaterally use a nuclear weapon on another govt, except if attacked by nuclear weaponry too.
It's this checks and balances that's lacking in the countries you so eagerly want to have the Bomb.

The Chernobyl disaster in Russia was tragic. but that has to do with a nuclear reactor, which is far more unstable than already processed nuclear warheads. a nuclear meltdown of a reactor isn't nearly as powerful as an atomic explosion.

WOuld you risk massive loss of human lives to a nuclear device all in the name of 'what's good for the goose, ?'. that's the question you have to ask yourself!

jagwar:
Yeah right, id like 2 see israel try that. Hezbollah in Lebanon will be glad 2 step in 4 Iran & if they get tired by any chance, Iran can begin 2 launch their newly acquired Russian made missles at isreal.
Isreal is not as strong as yal r thinking we all saw how they got confused & frustrated against Hezbollah (militant group) last year. Iran will only be glad to have a reason to release all their terror cells on isreal.

Israel is a lot stronger than you think. Aainst Hezbollah they were forced to keep a full scale invasion in check to minimize mounting civillian casualties especially with mounting civillian casualties.
The Iraqi army was the strongest standing army in the middle east and we saw what 200000 US troops did to them. The Israeli army is nearly as technologically advanced as the US army, has higher patriotism levels and a high level of professionalism.
But that's a moot point. Israel poses no threat to Iran (they don't even have a common border). Based on Ahmedinejad's genocidal rantings however, a nuclear armed Iran poses a grave threat to Israel.

In the past these guys have shown no particular logic in attacking israel for no just reason. In gulf war 1, despite the fact that israel took no part in the fighting, Iraq still routinely lobbed Scud missiles at israel in hopes of killing the most civillians they could. 

Still doubt Israel's motives? Let's examine that of the Arabs. In his memoirs after World war two, The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem noted that "Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world. I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish problem in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews. The answer I got was: 'The Jews are yours.'”

The same ideals live on in the minds and hearts of these guys. and you want to give them WMDs.

It's all good. We live far away from strife so we feel safe. But if you think Al Qaeda's eyes haven't turned towards Nigeria (with it's rich, rich resources and large, army of recruits poorly educated almajiri population) think again.

Donzman:
Your naivety out under the sun again. Maybe you'll want to check out which country receives the highest share of US Foreign Aid, then get back and tell me the US has nothing to do with Isreal - Arab wars.

I fail to grasp your reasoning. So we're to assume that because the US is the largest donor to Israel they are behind the arab-israeli conflict? Including the one just days after the Israeli state was formed? In that war and the six-day war, was Israel the aggressor? When Nasser of Egypt sent his armies in concert with t he syrian army, was that the US at work? After the 1948 Arab -Israeli war, Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel were offered "full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions" in the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel; many, however, refused. In addition, the entire Jewish population of the West Bank and Gaza Strip was either killed, captured, or expelled by Arab armies. Many also fled to Israel. The palestinians were encouraged to run from Israeli territory by tellin gthem lies that the Jews planned to massacre them. After they fled their hometowns, the other arab countries refused to take the displaced people in, leadin to the homeless palestinians today.
and you still think the US was the root problem in the middle east?

Donzman:
Funny enough, you detest Mugabe for driving whites out of their land but you see the establishment of a Jewish state in a formerly conquered territory as ok. Don't you see the inconsistency in your reasoning?

Formerly conquered territory? what are you talking about? The Jewish State was set up following a legal proclamation by the League of Nations (United Nations). That makes it 100% legal. By then the Jews owned most of that land anyway, after buying most of the land from arabs who sold them barren patches and then greedily tried to take them back after the Jews irrigated them into productivity. read up your history.

and no matter how you put a spin on it, mugabe's move crippled his country's economy. Big on national pride, lean on food. I'm sure Idi Amin also found favour in your eyes, after all he had some rudimentary plans for bettering his country's economy.

Donzman:
Haha. . .Ok. After reading tons of books and journal articles on Haiti, you feel your American propaganda is going to somehow shut me blind. Hahaha. . .Dude you're hilarious at best. Right from the time of the Haitian revolution, America has always taken the side of anyone willing to oppress Haitians. They never accepted the Haitian independence until 60 or so years after the fact.

They supported Duvaliers until they were kicked out to France. Freedom fighters my bum! So you mean to tell me the almighty freedom fighting US will change its stance on Freedom?

Haiti declared her independence in 1804. At that time the United States was embroiled in a desperate war for survival with Britain. France was the only ally of the US at that point. And france was the colonial power ousted from Haiti at that time. Does it strike you as strange that the US wasn't on best of terms with the Haitian Govt?
Besides, if you keep bringing 200 year old happenings to support your arguments we might as well use the benin or Oyo empire to analyze OBJs policies.

Donzman:
As for your WMD essays;

If Nuclear weapons are bad and dangerous, NOBODY should own them. What gives one country the right to own them in the name of self defence and another the right not to?. . .So the country which doesn't will keep being forced to be subservient because they can't defend themselves. Every NATION has the right to self defence, you can't obtain a weapon of defence and somehow try to reason with me that you deserve it and they don't. Especially when I see you as an aggressor with enemies changing every decade.

Most of the Nuclear arsenal in the western world were commissioned over 20 years ago. the warheads remain the same, perhaps delivery vehicles have changed. These were made in the cold war era arms race, until MAD made these guys come to their senses. Under the SALT many have been destroyed. But some exist, and they are a fact of life to be dealt with. Luckily for the world, these remain in the hands of stable countries who would definitely think twice before using them. Now people like you advocate proliferation, a reversal of all the gains of the past decades. Nuclear proliferation will make the world a vastly more unsafe place. despite your naive idealism, is that what you really want? Most of the world's nuclear powers aren't trigger happy when it comes to atomic warfare. You want that to change?
Can you name any one instance Nigeria (as an example) has been forced with nuclear weapons to be subservient? Canada? Kenya? Brazil? Mexico? Japan? North Korea? So which ones are you talking about?
If these countreis were pursuing nuclear weapons solely for deterrence purposes then on emight consider your point of view. But countries like Iran and North Korea have shown their willingness to someday go on the offensive with such weapons. Every nation has a right to defence, agreed! Is self-defense all about nuclear weapons?
It's clearly because nuclear weapons are such an abstract concept to you that you do not recognize the inherent danger of your current thought process. Let the Nigerian govt open a biological weapons factory near your house, would you trust them to keep you safe? Why did most sensible people raise a hulabaloo when the Fed. Govt announced plans to get a nuclear reactor in the near future?

You'll never learn. as a wise man once said, there is none so blind as they who will not see!

considering the fact that a 30Gb ipod sells for 43K in ikeja and its smaller and lighter than the Zune, anyone'd be crazy to buy this.
aim for aroubnd 30k

I too am prepping my mailint list for this stinker.


Of course i'll shamelessly claim credit for thinking it up

@topic
Nooo! She's my precioussss yessss. she's ours! Our preciouss.
Give it to usss, the precioussss!!

Donzman:
What an idiot, who are we deceiving here?. . .Who controls the UN? UN mission = American sanctioned mission. Nobody is a kid here! What happened to the UN mission after the Black Hawk Down?

You can as well tell me the Iraq was a coalition and not an invasion.

The US was in somalia as part of a multi-national UN peacekeeping force. This was an operation sanctioned by the UN. Why play the UN = US conspiracy theorist card? This strikes me as strange, considering the fact that most of you pronounce the Iraq war illegal because o flack of UN approval.
Here's a quick one; If the UN doesn't want to be so dependent on the US, why then demand and expect the biggest financial contributions, millitary hardware and troops? During the battle to beat sense into Milosevic, 80% of millitary hardware used came from the US. So the world wants American sweat and dollars but complain at American interest? Idiocy.

Donzman:
Concerning Vietnam, FACT is that majority of Vietnamese didn't want your favourite country there and it showed in the resistance. If you enter a country without the MAJORITY wanting you, it's an invasion, plain and simple. We all know the US isn't in love with Southern Vietnam, they got into the fray hoping to stem the tide of communism. Don't be naive or atleast don't pretend like people being naive is the status quo.

Why do i always get the stupid ones? Where did you get the idea that resistance started after an American 'invasion'? The American army came into South Vietnam on the invitation of the South Vietnamese government to train their troops to fight the VietCong rebels. Gradually the US took over actual combat roles, especially after the entry of North Vietnamese troops. Where do you get your 'facts' from?
Does it matter if the US loved South Vietnam or not? Even if the US was in there just to 'stem communism', do you thin k the S.Vietnamese Govt weren't happy for the help? Such simplistic reasoning is fast becoming your forte.

Donzman:
Your brains are clouded with propaganda. You might want to remind yourself that the US is the fuel that keeps burning in the Middle East. Take off the fuel and you'll be surprised what can happen.

Strange. I always thought that Israel's existence was the most burning issue in the Middle East. After all, 2 Arab-Israeli wars have been fought without the Intervention of the US. When the Mufti of Jerusalem was exhorting arabs/muslims to murder all jews in the 1930s, was the US involved? When multiple Arab nations tried to roll over the newly formed Israeli nation was the US involved?
Your problem is you have no awareness of history. Instead of spirited attempts at unbiased research and learning, you luxuriate in your ignorance.

Donzman:
Just like the US kept supporting the Duvaliers in Haiti, only to turn around and act like they're freedom fighters in the Middle East.

If you're freedom fighters, why support dictatorship in Haiti but not in Iraq

The US was firmly against the Duvalier Govts in Haiti until 1962 when they had to grudgingly accept the government as a bulwark against communism. It is to be noted that the US refused baby Doc Duvalier asylum after he was overthrown in 1986. Also, after Aristide (a democratically elected president) was overthrown, the US millitary stormed the Island and forcibly restored democratic governance to Haiti. Surely, even you with your limited historical knowledge remember this?

I understand your anger at being forcibly educated, so i take no offense at the vitriolic remarks you make about my brains, which are vastly superior to yours!

Donzman:
As for the rest of your talk on Nuclear Weapons. . .STANCE IS CLEAR. Why did they think of the NPT after they've acquired their own nuclear weapons?. . . Could it possibly be because they want to have it, prevent others from having it and in the process intimidate them?. . .Me thinks what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

To all you idiots who spout this line of reasoning: yes, there is an imbalance in the ownership of nuclear weapons, but ever since the Cold war we havent seen any country actively threatening to wipe out any country/race off the face of the world. I presume you also actively encourage Al-Qaeda et al to obtan nuclear weapons? When one of these is used, hundreds of thousands lose their lives. This might mean nothing to you, but it does to all right-thinking people. Since the 1970s, most of the countries with Nuclear weapons have tried to keep these out of the hands of others to safeguard the world.
The Concept of MAD (mutually Assured Destruction) saved the world during the cold war because neither the US or the Soviet Union would attack the other knowing fully well that that ensured their own doom. That remains till this day. Now some of you sadists would love to see such devices in the hands of people who have int he past thought nothing of 'martyring' themselves. Or terrorists with no fixed army.
these people, these Ghouls know themselves, they're the ones who grinned happily when Sept 11th happened, when the london bombings occured. People like Donzman, ghoullish idiots with a dearth of common sense who would dearly love to see a mushroom cloud appear over Manhattan.
As far as Nuclear weapons is concerned, the 'what is good for the goose, ' argument is the most simplistic yet stupid idea we can think up.

Scientists say the world will end when the sun explodes in approx 10 billion years. the world as we know it can end when some trigger happy nut sets off a nuclear holocaust. There's a reason why the US, Russia, China and others have numerous fail-safe checks before an actual nuclear detonation.

As long as nuclear weapons are kept out of the hands of those with no regard for MAD, the world should be alright. Flawed, yes, but alive.

Donzman, inject some more common sense in your thought process, ok?

, and im currently workin gon installing macosx tiger on my standard sony vaio laptop. W00t!!!

you cheating bastich

Donzman:
@McKren

No need to post any of those, any sensible individual knows the US and her allies (which change like the weather) are filled with deceiving men like 4Play who lack ability for deep intellectual thought.

Huh?. . .Where did I miss these disapprovals?. . .Somalia/Iraq/Vietnam did nothing to the US to deserve being invaded, keep fooling yourself.

Your IQ possibly cannot be this low!. . .The logic doesn't transfer, not even close. You first have to establish that Iran and every other nation looking to acquire WMD with the exception of your beloved US are looking to use it on others. Even though your beloved US is the one who goes from continent to continent creating strife and wars. If it isn't communists, it's Islam. . .I can't wait for the next people who will be next.

You will also have to prove that all other nations are immature and have IQ of 14 year olds with the exception of your beloved US. The logic doesn't transfer, we know how many assasinations the US has sanctioned, they're just as criminal as every other nation you're trying to deride.

Again, take your dumbass out of here.

I enjoy arguing with people like Afam, even though we find ourselves at odds 99% of the time, i look forward to his posts cos he speaks with logic and sound reasoning. You on the other hand argue with 99% passion and 1% logic!

Must you insist on showing off your ignorance and sub-par IQ in public? Anyway, in the vain hope that you might learn something from this, i will tackle your issues one by one.
1) The US was in Somalia as part of a UN mission. read it up, dumbass! It is pertinent to note that the troops hat rescued trapped US troops after the Battle of mogadishu (black Hawk Down) contained Malaysians and Pakistani troops (both muslim countries). So when did the US invade Somalia?

2) The US was in Vietnam on the invitation of the south vietnamese to combat North Vietnam sponsored rebels. later they got embroiled in a full-fledged war between the north and south. So how come the invasion? Someone already pointed this out to you, but you being an intellectually challenged idiot still bring this up. Why? WHY?

3) Let's take a look at the stability of Iran and North Korea.
North Korea: Testing a nuclear missile in violaion of prohibitions from doing same, firing a missile over Japan (in the 90s) can't be interpreted as stability. Do you have faith in a country that aggressively pursues millitary weapons at the expense of food and education, leavin gmillions to starve?

Iran:
Here are soem statements made by the iranian president:
"The real cure for the conflict is elimination of the Zionist regime."
"The way to peace in the Middle East is the destruction of Israel."
"Like it or not, the Zionist regime is heading toward annihilation."
"The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm."
"they should know that they are nearing the last days of their lives"
"as the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map"


In 2005, much of the media reported his call for Israel (actually the "Zionist regime" since Iran refuses to use the word "Israel" to be "wiped off the face of the map" in a keynote address to the Iranian-government sponsored "World without Zionism" conference.

According to the Washington Times:

In January (2006), the German magazine Bild reported that Iran purchased 18 BM-25 land-mobile missiles from North Korea. The BM-25 is a variation of the SS-N-6, a Soviet-made submarine-launched ballistic missile, with a range of up to 1,800 miles. The BM-25, according to Mr. Rubin, "is a nuclear missile, There is no other warhead for this other than a nuclear warhead."

In August of 2004, former U.S. Representative to the United Nations John Bolton testified that:

Cover stories put forward by Iran for the development of a nuclear fuel cycle and for individual facilities are simply not credible. For example, Iran is making an enormous investment in facilities to mine, process, and enrich uranium, and says it needs to make its own reactor fuel because it cannot count on foreign supplies. But for at least the next decade Iran will have at most a single nuclear power reactor. In addition, Iran does not have enough indigenous uranium resources to fuel even one power-generating reactor over its lifetime -- though it has quite enough uranium to make several nuclear bombs. We are being asked to believe that Iran is building uranium enrichment capacity to make fuel for reactors that do not exist from uranium Iran does not have.

read more http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/Iran_A_Threat_to_Israel_and_the_World.asp


So how can one like yourself claim such a threat does not exist? How can you claim genocide isn't in that idiot's plans?

Donzman:
You will also have to prove that all other nations are immature and have IQ of 14 year olds with the exception of your beloved US. The logic doesn't transfer, we know how many assasinations the US has sanctioned, they're just as criminal as every other nation you're trying to deride.

Again, take your dumbass out of here.

You poor deluded fool! Are you so scared of putting your (admittedly feeble) brains to work that you must take everything literally? Must i spell everything out for you since you are too dumb to think things through for yourself? I was tring to highlight the gulf in stability between the countries in question and more stable Western countries.

There is no helping you. Go forth and dispose of youself in whatever method you think best.

are you on crack? core Duo is an intel patent. there's no such thing as AMD core duo

Gamine:
then it would prove your grandaddy is far smarter than u

upgraded version yeah right!!!
anyways Mac OSx Leopard will hit hit Vista so hard

Lets just enjoy the OS's we love , u hear

at the moment, you cqant just buy mac osx and install on your pc. it comes with Mac hardware only. So yes, even if Osx betters windows, there wont be any serious loss in market share for windows

and the Wii is outselling the PS3 in all territories, especially in Japan where it outsells the Ps3 at a ratio of 3:1!

Go Nintendo!

@Afam
Can you put any evidence forward to show that these nuclear countries are actively developing and expanding their nuclear arsenal?

kaecy5:
@texxapete

u can continue running your mouth on facts and assumptions u don't even understand
you r sure lucky i have been busy and would continue to be busy for the next 3 weeks

i wish by the time i am free this thread would be alive then i would show u some facts to make u reconsider your stand point

enjoy

When will you Apes get it? i'm not averse to learning anything new, or hearing something new. If you've got something new, bring it to the table. Why would i count my self 'lucky'?
And you're not the only 'busy' one, man.
All i do is try and throw people's logic back at them and see how they like it. and i try my best to argue with facts, not feelings and emotions, Half of the people who beef the US do so because they've read so many Robert Ludlum novels, they feel the US is capable of anything .

The other day, someone came up to say that The Thanksgiving day in the US is a celebration of the day that the 'White americans gathered all the indians fro a dinner and killed them'. This, even when a simple research would show this to be false. but the person stubbornly refused to admit his error.

To all the guys who want weapons for all; Would you feel happy (and safe!) if Nigeria announced it wanted to develop biological weapons?

alexis:
Every time we have threads about one topic, we drift off to another. This is a simple thread about Vista been launched and here you have hardcore windows followers saying all kind of terrible things against MAC.

We tested Vista at school - it was slow and sluggish because we were using a P3 733mhz and 256 RAM, step 1 - You need a super machine to run Vista.

Step 2 - no matter how much you argue it, vista stole a lot of features from the MAC, the dock pane, apple widgets, time machine stolen from leopard that hasn't been publicly released, I was astonish how good windows repolished OS X and gave it a new name.

I can go on and on but hey, if it works for you, use it.

Why would you test vista on a p3 733Mhz system? Why? Don't the words 'minimum requirement' on the microsoft homepage and the vista box mean anything to you?
That's slightly less dense than testing Windows XP on a Pentium 1 computer.

why are you guys lamenting? Isn't there anyone else who found this defeat entertaining and amusing? I actually sat down and enjoyed good football from the ghanain side because our team was shyte and the coaching crew were dumb!
tell me how someone scores you 2 goals in 3 mins and you stil cannot make a change? Tell me how you have a team 3-0 down and still they are strolling.
i'm glad they beat us. at least now we can all agree that there are deficiencies in the Super Eagles

Donzman:
Is Nigeria faring any better with our democracy? Rubbish!!. . .When the West decide to destroy Zimbabwe's economy because Mugabe decided to give justice to his people, what do you expect?. . .Whites had no right to that land in the first place, getting rid of them is the RIGHT thing to do. You took it by force and slavery, you shall return it.

Mugabe is a solid determined leader and I admire him.

You mean politicians who are used as tools of commotion in Zimbabwe?. . .They should be on exile for sure.

o ye malcontent, will ye not learn? Fresh from spouting inaccuracies about Vietnam and Somalia (which were speedily disproved!) now you bandy about things you know little of. Which west destroyed Zimbabwe's economy? Go there and find out what good the people are doing with the farms seized from the whites.
Someone tells you about millions starving in Zimbabwe and a seriously terrible economy and you compare it to Nigeria. When last did you enter your country?

Donzman:
If you didn't want nuclear weapons, you shouldn't have developed them in the first place.

There is no way you can convince me that Iran does not deserve a nuclear weapon but the US does, that's gross bullshit. What is good for the goose, is good for the gander. Egbe belu, ugo belu, nke siri ibe ya ebena, nku kwa ya!. . .Thank you!

let me expand your 'logic' a bit.
There's no way you can convince me that the mad men in my area shouldnt carry guns! There's no ay you can convince me that people deserve to be jailed and locked up no matter the crime. after all, fellow human beings are walking around freely.
There's no way you can convince me that the constitution sould peg the age limit for the presidency at 40 years. after all, are primary school pupils not human beings too? we should allow 14 year olds to contest!

You amuse me. really, you do. keep it up!

@Sharetroll
there's an easy way to tell if rap needs no talent; get a microphone, a tape recorder and make some beats (or download pre-made ones) and rap. I mean it, just for kicks.
Think you can easily replicate what's out there? think again.

There's a whole lot of different ideas out there about what kind of music is best. I lov erap music, but i don't mind listening to Enya once in a while, and i absolutely love Disney soundtracks. Not everyone who loves rap music is a gangster.
Like someone said here, one man's meat is another man's poison. Different strokes for different folks. I expect any educated person to know this.

On the flip side, i have a problem with the attitude of many people on nairaland like yourself. You start a topic, ending your intro post with the word 'Discuss' then you show no desire to listen to any conflicting views, instead trying to force your strong anti-rap views on others.
many of your betters have spoken against rap music, proclaiming it unpleasing to the ear. The same allegation is usually directed against Rock/Metal. However, what no one else does is to accuse rap music of being a zero-talent shebang. How myopic can you get?

sharetroll:
Rap require 0 talent because freestyling is easy. . . .


You, it be like this. You want some, well here I come. Coming at you with a freak soderin gun. I ain't got to waste my time tellin ya what be what. AllI have to do is shake my big old butt.

See, didn't take me more than 30 seconds. . . .

and any ape can belt out a few lovey-dovey words and claim to be giving out classical music. next time you want to prove a point, record something with a beat and upload an mp3 file so we can listen to you. alternatively, you can upload a youtube video.

Stop being an attention seeker and keep your taste in music to yourself!
What next? Boradway vs Hollywood? Opera vs Rock?

royy:
[left][/left]MAN DATS SUM REAL DISCRIMINATION GOIN ON THERE, DNT 4GT NOT EVERY1 CAN GT 2 1 COS GOIN TO SKUL WUD LUK USELESS 2 2 NO MIN SAY D LAD OR BABA DAFT AFTERALL U WUD STILL DO THEIR TRAINING BIN INTELLIGENT N BIN STREETWISE R 2 DIFFETRENT THINGS

Speak English!

davidylan:
the above poster is a classical example why clear cut distinctions must be made between the wheat and the tares!

Lol!

4 Play:
Iran unlike Palestine is neither an Arab nation or a Sunni nation

Most (Sunni) Arabs see Iranians as Persians, as not being true Arabs. Just to buttress your point.