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you people should invite to that thread oh

AndSunGorilla:
Oga lawyer you are someone that I really look forward to what you write. Let's open a different thread to discuss this further. You made valid points and you said an infallible truth about always hearing both sides. Infact yorubas will say it's only a terribly wicked person who makes a judgement based on a one sided presentation.
That said, my heart bleeds for that family separated, that child/woman who is now a refugee. I so much love Fela's music, "Viva Africa", enough said, Comrade.

M7even:
My guy, Calm down with this twisted interpretation of MLK pls.

I hope you've read the whole version of that preaching to begin with ?

Why do you ask, sir? Beacause I no dey read like that oh.

The speech is too long and finding that quote within the long speech would have been a miracle self.

I simply imagined the quote, googled it and found that MLK was the author. No other way I would have been able to know about the quote since I did not read it o

lol. you never sabi komekn.

"For the person who hates, you can stand up and see a person and that person can be beautiful, and you will call them ugly. For the person who hates, the beautiful becomes ugly and the ugly becomes beautiful" - MLK

This is my own version of that quote for him:
"For the person with strong bias and a pretentious sense of intelligence and superior values, you can stand up and see a situation and that situation can be black, and you will call it white. For the person with strong bias and a pretentious sense of intelligence and superior values, white becomes black and the black becomes white"

jihday:
stop saying nonsense and see this report from the bbc

Having represented England at Under-19, Under-20 and Under-21 level, Lookman will be looking to play for the West African nation in major tournaments like the Africa Cup of Nations and the Fifa World Cup.

But the process to get him to switch international allegiance began in 2020 when the team secretary Dayo Enebi prepared all the required documents on the NFF's part.

However, the application suffered a long delay due to the player's inability to sort out his Nigerian passport aa well as his failure to provide a written request for a change of association in line with Fifa regulations.

Lookman only completed the paperwork this week which enabled the NFF to file a fast track application for his clearance.

For those who dont have the time to read the above article, the author’s concerns seem to be more about the tendency of the test to wrongly conclude that a player is overage rather than overaged players passing the test.

It disputes the claim that "FIFA is 99 percent certain that a player is over 17, if the MRI shows complete fusion of a player’s wrist".

Below is my tldr summary:

1. Latest doping scandal in u17 : 26 members (almost half )of the Nigerian team deemed to be over 17 based on the MRI test
2. 2 players reinstated after appeal
3. FIFA’s premise is that wrist MRIs can indicate if a player is older than 17, but this foundation is shaky at best
4. The premise is based on a study conducted by FIFA’s medical assessment and research centre that shows that it is 99% certain that a player is over 17 if the MRI shows complete fusion of a player’s wrist
5. However the exact timing of this fusion varies a lot between individuals. For instance, using this timing is problematic for female athletes as many have complete fusion before age 17
6. FIFA’s citing of the foundational MRI study for boys is a mistake because there is a wide variation in the bone growth stages for each age category.
7. A test carried out on a normal population will yield an average age of complete fusion between 16 and 20 years old, 95% of the time (mean age 18.6, standard deviation 0.9).
8. According to a professor of paediatrics, this requirement is too stringent… “Maybe people are not concerned about unfairly excluding kids from competition”
9. Subsequent studies also show that 14 year old players may also have a high degree of bone fusion (thereby making them fail the test)
10. There is no known foolproof, scientific test to determine age and applying a lone wrist MRI test is inappropriate at best and potentially harmful at worst

Now the punchline from #7 above:
- A test conducted on 20 year olds will yield an incorrect result 2% of the time (meaning they will pass the test)
- A test conducted on teenagers who are 17 or below will yield incorrect results 10% of the time (fail the test)

While we await Komekn's peer reviewed article, here is a contribution to this issue from scientific America for those who are interested:

Source: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dear-fifa-there-is-no-scientific-test-to-prevent-age-fraud/

Dear FIFA: There Is No Scientific Test to Prevent Age Fraud

Soccer federation’s tests to combat “age doping” and bar suspected older players from youth events should be red carded

By Dina Fine Maron on August 11, 2016

You could be forgiven for missing that the qualifying matches for a big youth soccer event—the Africa Cup of Nations—are underway right now, what with the Olympics taking center stage all week. But then you might miss the latest “doping” scandal playing out in soccer headlines: Almost half of Nigeria’s U-17 (under age 17) team has been sidelined based on lab scans.

Yet the dismissal is not over a traditional malfeasance such as performance-enhancing chemicals or hormonal supplements. It is about age fraud. Clinical testing suggested that these players were actually older than 17.

As a result, 24 young male athletes from Nigeria were deemed ineligible to participate, the Confederation of African Football (CAF) told Scientific American. (Originally, 26 players were excluded but two players were reinstated after appeal.) The decision to bar these Nigerian players from the tournament was based on a procedure that FIFA, soccer’s international governing body, put in place in 2009. It urged youth players to submit to magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scans of their wrists in an attempt to determine their age eligibility. (CAF, which is under the auspices of FIFA, requires all players to submit to the scans as part of the regulations for the U-17 Africa Cup of Nations.)

Admirably, the protocol is designed to prevent older, stronger players from entering youth tournaments in settings where birth certificates or other ways of verifying age may be absent. According to FIFA, wrist MRIs and the bone growth they show can indicate if a player is older than 17. Yet a deeper dive into the study behind this decision reveals that its foundation is shaky at best.

FIFA rolled out this protocol based on a study conducted by its Medical Assessment and Research Center and published in the British Journal of Sports Medicine. For that work, researchers performed wrist MRIs (deemed more ethical than exposing the subjects to x-ray radiation) on about 500 young men between the ages of 14 and 19. The teens all hailed from Switzerland, Malaysia, Algeria or Argentina. The researchers then categorized each participant’s wrist bone development into one of six stages based on the fusion of his distal radius, a bone area near the wrist joint. Stage 6 represented complete fusion and stage 1 represented no fusion. Citing this work, FIFA says that if the MRI shows complete fusion of a player’s wrist, it is 99 percent certain that the player is over 17 (spoiler alert: that’s not really true).

Wrist bone development certainly does change during adolescence. Before puberty the human body cranks out cells that help produce new cartilage along the ends of bones. These areas of the bone, known as growth plates, are eventually converted into bone material, which helps the bones lengthen. Yet as teenagers, both males and females start producing more estrogen, which slows that cellular production process—and their growth plate cartilage subsequently gets thinner and thinner until some of the bones in that area fuse together, and the growth plates close and are replaced by solid bone. (That’s why wrist scans are sometimes used alongside those of the fingers, in tandem with other biological information, to estimate a growing child’s eventual height.) The exact timing of this fusion, however, varies a lot between individuals. For example, FIFA’s own researchers said in an analysis published earlier this year that using this same age cutoff for female athletes is extremely problematic because many girls already had complete fusion before age 17.

In FIFA’s citing of the foundational MRI study for boys, however, its major mistake lies in applying these population-level statistics to individual athletes. A closer examination of the full data shows that the actual wrist bone growth stages can occur at a wide range of ages. Among 16-year-olds, for example, roughly the same number of kids were at stages 1, 3, 4 and 5, representing a spectrum of growth at that age. “There is so much overlap that you may have a person who is 18 who could have only minimal fusion to complete fusion, and there are people who are already fused going from ages 20 to 16,” says Vicente Gilsanz, a professor of radiology and pediatrics at the University of Southern California. Although only one player in the 16-year age group was graded as completely fused (stage 6), the standard deviation in that grouping is also pretty telling.

The reason standard deviation is so illuminating comes down to basic statistics. The average age for complete fusion, according to the analysis, is 18.3 years. Yet there might be some variation in that fusion timing, and that possibility is represented by standard deviation calculated in the analysis—0.9 years. Anyone setting such important guidelines should typically include two standard deviations in either direction from the average age to capture most of that variation, says Frank Rauch, a professor of pediatrics who specializes in bone health at McGill University. (In a perfect bell curve one standard deviation will only capture about 68 percent of the values whereas two will include about 95 percent, and so on.) [b]Here, two standard deviations from that average age of complete fusion would include ages 16 to 20. “Maybe people are not concerned about unfairly excluding kids from competition,” Rauch says, “but that’s the inevitable problem.” [/b]FIFA had not responded to a request for comment by publication time.

Meanwhile, subsequent work also throws more cold water on the science of these wrist scans: One study on 86 young male Ghanaian players concluded, “There was no significant correlation between the chronological age and the degree of fusion.” Another analysis that similarly employed wrist scans among young players found that three supposed 14-year-old male soccer players had stage 5 or stage 6 fusion. In that analysis, too, the authors similarly noted, “no correlation was observed between age category and grade of fusion.” But in both studies the authors dismissed the results—suggesting perhaps players were simply not aware of their real ages.

There are also genetic and environmental factors to consider before applying this study’s findings to the real world. The analysis underpinning FIFA’s age regulation does include some individuals from Algeria(which is in north Africa), yet it does not include anyone from sub-Saharan Africa, where this ruling has been applied before—and is again now. Very little puberty research is focused on the sub-Saharan region, so it is difficult to pinpoint information about the onset and tempo of puberty in Nigeria. But scientists have uncovered variation elsewhere. Multiple studies have shown that kids embark on puberty at different times based on factors including nutrition, environment and ethnic background. Puberty in African-American girls who grow up in the U.S. begins roughly a year earlier, on average, than among white girls, for example.

Ultimately, there is no known foolproof, scientific test that will allow doctors—or sports regulators—to determine an individual’s age. The science suggests that applying a lone wrist MRI test to make such determinations is inappropriate at best and potentially harmful at worst. Political leaders and regulators searching for age tests in other settings—such as classifying immigrants seeking asylum (because different rules apply for minors and adults)—could potentially look to this type of age cutoff test, too, with troubling results. Right now “people aren’t trying to use magnetic resonance imaging [to classify the age of refugees] but they are using x-ray imaging to look at bone age and make a determination as to whether they are children or not,” says Babette Zemel, a pediatrics professor focused on child growth and development at The Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. “Looking at the bones can give you a good idea if one child is skeletally more mature, but it is insufficient for determining whether or not a child should be permitted to be on a sports team or claim asylum status because it doesn’t tell you about their chronological age.”

Interesting perspective on Rohr's salary, opposition scouting and Ekong's contribution in the Tunisia match

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Damioduso1:
it will be interesting to see Rohr coaching black stars of Ghana. But am a little beat concerned if it happens cos Rohr knows how players so well and it even is team we are still using currently

If the news is true, this would be the reason why he is being considered

Meliforme:
I am not against working at night, but please let it not be a sleepless night. To imply a sleepless night indicated that the matter was somehow puzzling to his mind. His mind kept him awake and gave him away to sleeplessness. His mind was restless and confused. This is a deficiency, and should not be discussed in the public.

As a member of the technical committee, it shouldn't be so difficult for him. He should have a first hand knowledge of the players.

I said it wasn't good and we have seen it

I respect that your view on Eguavoen's statement that he had "sleepless nights" in the days leading up to his decision on the final 28 is borne out of your own life experiences and what you have been exposed to. However, the assertion that this is a deficiency on his part clearly suggests to me that those experiences of yours are somewhat limited

I once had a career as a management consultant in one of the elite consulting firms where you can't get staffed on client engagements that involve direct interactions with the C-suite executives of leading organizations (think S&P 100, FTSE, Fortune etc), unless you can demonstrate the ability to think about the challenges "That Keep CEOs Up at Night". There are literally books written with this title and many an MBA student does their best to show recruiters for management roles in these firms that they are able to think about and help answer these questions.

And yes, many of these revered business leaders of our time literally have issues "keeping them up at night" and "Burn the midnight oil" - another phrase which suggests intense brainstorming - before making substantial decisions that impact the future of the organizations they lead. There is a reason why leaders in economically advanced countries age rapidly while in office. It is not from conducting any research, preparing their speeches or worrying about what to eat or wear -they have staff who do that. They "burn the midnight candle" while evaluating the options before them and the implications of the decisions to be made. Hence, George Bush referred to his role as the "Decider-In-Chief"

As a member of the technical committee, it shouldn't be so difficult for him. He should have a first hand knowledge of the players.

Having first hand knowledge of certain players to be dropped could be a legitimate contributor to his problem. It is actually a good problem to have.

safarigirl:
Please, people that were alive in this period, can you confirm?

Not true.

Algeria went out at the group stage in Senegal 92. Interestingly, they were beaten by Ivory Coast, who eventually went on to win the tournament

1. Nigeria player of the year Kelechi Iheanacho
2. Nigerian female player of the year Asisat Oshoala
3. NPFL player of the year Anayo Iwuala
4. Most impactful new inclusion (2021) Frank Onyeka
5. Best Ogedengbe goalkeeper of the year Ojo Olorunleke
6. Stephen Keshi defender of the year Kevin Akpoguma
7. Samuel Okwaraji midfielder of the year Joe Aribo
8. Rasheed Yekini attacker of the year Paul Onuachu
9. Most improved player Taiwo Awoniyi
10. Super eagles goal of the year Kelechi Iheanacho second goal Vs Liberia
11. Best assist of the year Alex Iwobi assist for Iheanacho's second goal vs. Liberia
12. Team of the year Akwa United

TheLoneCitizen:
It seems you are mad, go and tell that to your dead first child.

seigolopa-emevigrof #Socexp

I see this has a #Socexp tag and this comment is unlike you (based on your contributions to this thread). Be that as it may, if this is indeed a social experiment, it is one done in very bad taste

komekn:
Where do bare faced shameless LIARS go

Ademola Lookman has put in place requirements to switch his allegiance to the Super Eagles from England, according to Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) technical assistant Tunde Adelakun.

According to the Technical Assistant of the NFF Tunde Adelakun who revealed that the RB Leipzig midfielder has made known his intention to the Federation with the NFF now waiting on full clearance before finally calling him up.

“Lookman has applied for the switch and all the documents are in order. It’s a positive step forward when made his commitment to Nigeria and we are just waiting for a FIFA clearance.

https://www.goal.com/en-us/news/lookman-moves-to-switch-allegiance-from-england-to-nigeria/1iehvu1fw8dsw11wn9rc7o5so7

The pertinent thing is to look at the date this was published . I knew this very clearly from my own sources.

Check the below article to see what Chriskels is saying, particularly the last paragraph of the sections in bold ( not that I expect you will take time to understand what it says, but this should at least let some others see the full picture)

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England Under 20 World Cup Hero Set To Switch Allegiance To Nigeria
Tom Fenton

Published 15:54, 05 November 2021 GMT
| Last updated 19:26, 05 November 2021 GMT
England Under 20 World Cup Hero Set To Switch Allegiance To Nigeria

England youth standout Ademola Lookman is hoping to switch his international allegiance to Nigeria, as prospects of an England call-up diminish.

The Leicester City youngster, who previously played for the likes of Charlton, Everton and RB Leipzig, was born in the UK, but he is eligible to play for Nigeria on account of his parents.

Lookman represented England at U19, U20 and U21 level, with the undisputed highlight of his time in the junior ranks being 2017's U-20 World Cup triumph.

The 24-year-old starred in the tournament alongside the likes of Dominic Calvert-Lewin and Fikayo Tomori, netting three goals en-route to the final.

Things have been more turbulent at club level since then, although the 20/21 campaign was something of a breakthrough for Lookman, as he made 34 Premier League appearances for Fulham in their ultimately fateful attempt to avoid relegation.

However, that campaign was enough to convince Leicester City to take a chance on the pacey winger, who has already scored twice for his new club this season.

With Gareth Southgate currently spoilt for choice when it comes to high-qualify wingers and forwards, even if Lookman does continue to impress under Brendan Rodgers, a call-up to England's senior squad is still highly unlikely.

Just yesterday we saw the likes of Jadon Sancho, Emile Smith-Rowe and Mason Greenwood all missing out on his latest 23-man World Cup qualifier squad, which once again highlights the depth England have in attack.

Previously, the wide-man turned down three official approaches from the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) to represent the African nation instead.

Speaking in 2020, Lookman stated: "I've not changed my mind [on wanting to represent England] but I'm open, and it's good to have different opportunities."

One year on, the player appears to have had a change of heart. BBC Sport reports that Lookman has officially began the process to switch allegiances to Nigeria, where opportunities to play regular international football will be more readily available.

It could turn out to be a lengthy process, as Lookman's appearances for England's junior sides complicate matters somewhat - meaning he will have to wait a bit longer to make his debut for the Super Eagles.

NFF chief scout Tunde Adelakun told the BBC: "We are aware of Lookman's desire to play for us and I have spoken to him as well. However, there is a process to it."

"After this process, then comes the consideration and decision of the head coach [Rohr] on whether or when he deems it fit to get him involved."

source: https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-england-u20-world-cup-winner-wants-to-switch-allegiance-to-nigeria-20211105

TheGoodJoe:
What are you talking represent Coach.

I repeat, it is basic. You do any thing to raise players morale.

It is simple. The announcement that Peseiro is the new coach before the tournament tells the player that Eguavoen is not their coach.

This is a fact you can not bend.

This happens fairly often in international and club football and while I see why you may be concerned, an argument can also be made about the players auditioning for the new coach as well. Any player that deliberately performs poorly at AFCON will do themselves no favours in the eyes of the new coach

Examples of coaches whose players knew for sure that there relationship was on an interim basis or only has a short life span are

1. Philippe Scolari (2008) - Chelsea announced his appointment while he was still coaching Portugal in Euros 2008
2. Hiddink (2009) - "Chelsea confirmed on 11 February 2009 that Hiddink would become Scolari's replacement until the end of the season, whilst continuing his duties with Russia"
3. Hiddink (2016) - He was appointed in an interim capacity after Mourinho's sack
4. Conte(2016) - He was announced as Chelsea's coach months before Euro 2016 and Italy's performance did not appear to have been affected even though his role in the team could now be considered "interim"

More recently , Hansi Flick announced he was leaving Bayern Munich while the bundesliga still had a month to run

komekn:
You are very RIGHT he has gone way beyond that, to PLAYER OF THE YEAR BOTH SENIOR and YOUNG.

Yes I agree. He won the award of the best premier league player in London (all of 5 clubs). This is better than being the best player in the premier league

Philosopher1979:
Liar Liar Liar
In the 2006 nations cup when we played Senegal Kanu saved us when we came in.
I watched the match with my naked eyes.
Even in the 2008 nations cup he provided our creativity in midfield.
He made an assist for femi martins and took control of the midfield in that match
I insist after Okocha left it was kanu in our midfield between 2006 and 2010.
please stop telling lies

Since you have taken it upon yourself to call someone else a liar, please prove to us that you are not one by telling us what match in AFCON 2008 that Kanu provided an assist to Martins.

Thank You

Danielnino00:
You echoed what I said... "It's just your wishful thinking" .

I think BascoVanveli may actually have a reasonable point. He is certainly not the only one thinking that way : https://www.liverpool.com/liverpool-fc-news/transfer-news/liverpool-transfer-mistake-romelu-lukaku-21765248

Yes. Even the dude who came third ran a time that would have been a WR just a few weeks ago

Ppogbae:
Was it the Norwegian who broke the WR? That race was ridiculous .

I just witnessed the craziest race in my entire life <<hand on head>>

JohnBullMySon:
Start with yourself. Since playing for Nigeria is equivalent to endorsing the government, throw away your passport. don't do anything that relates to or has Nigeria as part of its name or identity. Nothing at all. If your certificate is from a government school, return it, or dropout if you still school there. A terrorist government can't be responsible for your training. don't do any job at all. If you're planning to do youth service or something like that, do not do it. Leave your life alone and have nothing to do with Nigeria.

Then you'll be taken seriously.

While we are at it, we might as well have our sportsmen pull out of the olympics, world cup qualifiers, afcon et al

Kanu, Amokachi, Finidi, JayJay, Keshi etc should probably be castigated for supporting Millitary dictatorship and extra judicial killings by representing Nigeria at Atlanta 96 and USA 94 during the Abacha Era!

Heck, we should probably expunge all records of Nigeria's participation in all sporting competitions between AFCON 84 and Nigeria '99 as our performances did nothing but celebrate bad governance/Millitary dictatorship

When is the actual date of the conference?

Nephilim:
First Mail

We would like to inform you that we are organizing an International Congress on AIDS, Covid- 19 and Health Care, which will be taking place from 9th – 14th August, 2021 in Dallas Texas USA,

Second Mail

The international conference meeting is scheduled to take place from 24th to 27th August, 2021 @ Seaside Crystal Hotel Houston Texas USA.

Sad That Rohr Invited Underachieving Ozornwafor -Amuneke, Dosu

May 28, 2021 3:08 pm


The duo of Nigerian internationals, Emmanuel Amuneke and Dosu Joseph has blasted Super Eagles coach, Gernot Rohr for inviting Galatasaray defender, Valentine Ozornwafor to the senior national team for the friendly games against Cameroon and Mexico.


Ozornwafor, who made just an 8-minute cameo role for Galatasaray in their 6-0 whitewashing of Genclerbirligi in the Turkish Super Lig, was among the 23-man squad that finally made Rohr’s squad.

Reacting to his inclusion to the team, the Atlanta Olympic gold medalist told The Punch that the German tactician has failed to invite players based on merit.

“There are so many inconsistencies with the way players are being invited, but the coach determines who comes into the team and who plays as well. That’s his job.

“You can’t invite a player who has played only eight minutes to the Eagles. We must be honest with ourselves and tell ourselves some bitter truth.

“I’m sure we have some defenders either in the Nigeria Professional Football League or in Europe who deserve the chance in terms of talent and form.”

In the same vein, Dosu criticized Rohr for inviting a player that just played 8-minute in the Turkish to the Super Eagles ahead of quality players that are playing regularly for their clubs in Europe.

“His (Ozornwafor) invitation sums it up. How do you invite a player who has played only eight minutes to the senior national team for a friendly? The coach must have seen a lot from the player in the eight minutes he played all season.”

https://www.completesports.com/sad-that-rohr-invited-underachieving-ozornwafor-amuneke-dosu/

So some people honestly think that if Fulham and Porto traded leagues, Fulham will be topping Primeiral Liga, while Porto will be battling relegation in the English Premiership, UEFA rankings be damned?

Icon4s:
NAIRALAND NIGERIAN FOOTBALL FANS (NNFF) AWARDS 2020: VOTING

1. Nigerian Player of the Year:
✓Victor Osimhen

2. NPFL player of the Year:

3. Most Impactful New Inclusion (2020):
✓Zaidu Sanusi

4. Best Ogedengbe Super Eagles Best Goal Keeper of the Year:
✓Daniel Akpeyi

5. Stephen Keshi Best Defender of the Year:
✓Leon Balogun

6. Samuel Okwaraji Best Midfielder of the Year:
✓Joe Aribo

7. Rashidi Yekini Best Attacking player of the Year:
✓Victor Osimhen

8. Most improved player (2020):
✓Leon Balogun

9. Young Player of the Year (U-21):
✓Samuel Chukwueze

10. Super Eagles Goal of the Year:
✓Iwobi for 3:0 vs Sierra-Leone

11. Best assist of the Year:
✓Sanusi's to Osimhen for 2:0 vs Sierra-Leone

Cc: Bascovanveli, Thegoodjoe, ThesuperNerd, Andrewbaba44, icon4s.

Icon4s:
Haha, nothing like tempering bro.
What you have is the result.

Besides, what do we stand to gain by tempering anything?

haba....@andsun was clearly trying to mock people who whine after elections(trump, orubebe et al). he is just catching his own fun but clearly that didn't come across to many people here!!!

komekn:
You have very limited elementary understanding and appreciation of football.

Youth football is at best indicative of potential but far from conclusive. It says this is place where you can anchor further progression upon.

Nigeria probably has the best record at U17 football in the World or very close to it.

Why are we not world Cup winners and have world class players ❓ Because our dominance at youth level should by your rational transfer to the Senior game. But we are VERY FAR OFF.

In 2009 we hosted the World U17 cup we came second our players were outstanding. But where are all of them now ❓ Emma Sanni best player in the tournament, where is he Borja top goal scorer, plays in the mediocrity of the Segunda División with Huesca.

However, Brazil that did not go anywhere in the tournament has three players who are truly either the best in the world or very close to it. Just to mention a few.

Namely. Allison - Liverpool goalkeeper
Coutinho - No introduction required
Neymar - ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

Now maybe your mind will not just explode but also implode as you consider the folly of your irrational misguided inferences.

I could add look at Solanke outstanding at U21 level golden boot winner. U21 is more realistic of quality and potential than U17. But he could not transfer that dominance to the Senior game.

After £20 million pound transfer he is more or less a complete flop.

Osimhen has gone to Napoli for a world class fee a fee that is higher than the fee for Lukaku a truly a WORLD CLASS PLAYER arguably one of the best strikers in the World.

Thats a huge responsibility to live up too for a player who has not completed two seasons of first team football before his transfer and predominantly in lower leagues. There should be cautious optimism not euphoric hype and over expectations he is far from world class.

Classic deflection masked in unsolicited examples of successful youth players who have failed to make it at senior level, as if this phenomenon is only exclusive to football

Let's return to the statement I addressed:

What you said: "he will not even make it into any top academy in the EPL. He was technically naive and simply not good enough AT THAT TIME in 2016/17......."

My response: It makes no sense to say a player who performed better than products of an academy would not have been good enough for that academy at that time

What I didnt say : performance at youth level is a clear determinant for career success

komekn:
Actually with regards to the bold AT THAT TIME , when l watched him at Wolfsburg.

I did not say he will not struggle in the English U23 league. l said he will not even make it into any top academy in the EPL. He was technically naive and simply not good enough AT THAT TIME in 2016/17.......

Osimhen won the golden boot in the 2015 U-17 world cup. There was also a certain team in that tournament that had players from Man City, Chelsea, Everton, Stuttgart, Man Utd, Liverpool etc.

Yet the same Osimhen - that played for a team that outshone these guys and ended up being the highest ever goalscorer in an U-17 world cup - would not have been qualified to play in the same academies that produced the "technically competent" players who could only manage a draw in 3 games.

My mind is blown!!

forgiveness:
But your told me Alampasu will not get a call. How come?

Because Tobias pulled out?

komekn:

Actually Marko left Liverpool in September 2019, and my reference was to him, albeit belatedly.

This is a player l.knew very very well and my post was very specific in regards to Marko......

Marko left for Fulham in January 2019 not September as stated. What value of information is there in stating that a player will never play for a club 9 months after they already left

Moreover your comment as clearly seen in the screenshots was in response to a comparison between Ejaria and Grujic. There was no reference to your Marko and rightly so, since he was no longer a Liverpool player

Danielnino00:
The fact that Tijani is based in Austria where the games will take place might be another factor why he was considered..

I dunno why forgiveness isn't looking at the positive side of this squad...

It's not like Azeez has been frozen out of the team already..

Definitely a factor. It seems to me this is Rohr saying " Hey, we're in your neighborhood, come hangout with us. By the way, remember what I said to you last year? I still have my eyes on you"

Make of this what you will. Based on the bolded below, I will say kudos to Mr Rohr! He definitely means well and thinking of the future he may not be a part of. Very good incentive for Tijani and his mates to continue to work hard.

I didn’t expect Super Eagles call-up ― Samson Tijani

Red Bull Salzburg loanee Samson Tijani has confessed that his maiden invitation to the Super Eagles for their upcoming friendlies against Ivory Coast and Tunisia came as a surprise, and has claimed that he did not have any contact with manager Gernot Rohr and his assistants in the days leading up to the squad announcement.

However, the former Golden Eaglets skipper has revealed that the Franco-German football tactician assured him and other Nigeria U17 stars last year that there was a pathway into the Super Eagles if they kept doing well.

Tijani has jumped two age groups – Flying Eagles and Olympic Eagles – following his first call-up to the Super Eagles and after only four matches as a professional and 322 minutes under his belt. “I feel good about being invited but I didn’t expect the call-up because I just moved to Europe,” Tijani said. “It was amazing when I came to Europe, I didn’t even play in the academy, went directly to the first team. “When I was sent on loan, I went straight to the starting lineup, I have played all the games.


Source: [url]https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/09/i-didnt-expect-super-eagles-call-up-%E2%80%95-samson-tijani/[/url]

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In the manner of certain monikers on this thread, this inexplicable selection must be because of "egunje" or nepotism. Oh wait, it's not Nigeria, so the coach must have his reasons.....

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