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Christianity Etc › Re: Another Gospel: The Benny Hinn Experience by Themandator: 12:32pm On Sep 25, 2016
TheSixthSense:
'For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and produce great signs and omens, to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. Take note, I have told you beforehand...' (Matt 24:24-25)

One of the first books I got, after the Lord's gracious salvation of my life, was the bestseller 'Good Morning Holy Spirit' by Benny Hinn. A great read at the time, I was fascinated by his knowledge about things of the Spirit and God and his path to experiencing the Holy Spirit even to conversational relations. I watched his sermons, I ignored comments about him being a heretic. I thought why people so judgemental especially christians, what is he possibly doing wrong? He preaches Jesus and the Holy Spirit and he even talks about casting out demons in Jesus name. He explains angels and God's relationship with them as though he had some divine revelation from the Holy Spirit Himself. I liked his book and certainly respected him as a preacher and a 'man of God.'

Then came a time when he came around to my city at a RCCG parish. I determined to go see him, even if it meant forfeiting my church service for his scheduled miraculous service. I had been praying for a miracle so I thought my moment had finally arrived. So, I went. Praise and worship was fantastic and colourful, way more appealing to the congregation than that of my church. Service carried on until Benny arrived, celebrated as he was ushered in then he began his sermon with 'whoow I feel the anointing' He went on to talk about the crucifixion of Jesus Christ taking us through the torturous ordeal of the cross along with the more than occasional sedating musical tune from his music crew.

'Surely He has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows...But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; And by His stripes we are healed (Isa 53:4-6) echoed through the speakers. Ttarted coming out to give testimonies of their healing. 'My back pain for several months gone' 'My ankle pain gone' 'My arthritis gone' ...'My wrist pain gone' almost every healing seemed to be about pain. All the while, right in front of me was a row of people sat on wheelchairs, expectant for their healing. In fact, I'm sure almost everyone in the service required some sort of miraculous intervention. I thought maybe God hasn't remembered me or maybe I didn't have enough faith to receive my healing. I thanked God anyway for the service and the others.

Then came the moment that shook me. They had earlier passed envelopes with forms for credit card debit information for giving. So, Benny went ahead beseeching us to say and proclaim 'The wealth of the sinner must come to me.' (I thought what a dishonest desire to proclaim. What's my own with the sinner's money). He said Kenneth Copeland gave him a prophetic declaration at the beginning of the year that any covenant sowing with him would be exceedingly fruitful. He went ahead to give us a rundown of how Abraham, Isaac, Moses, Joshua and all sowed in obedience and they reaped exceedingly. He gave examples of how someone's financial debt was cleared from obedience and on with a couple of other examples. Then, he went personal. He asked a woman, 'how much do you pay monthly for your mortgage?' she said about a thousand then he said 'the Lord wants you to give a month's worth and watch what the Lord will do.'

As he continued, I noticed for the first time in my christian life that I completely switched off, very unusual but I could feel it - Quenching of the Spirit, maybe - But I silently prayed 'Lord, you know my heart, it is not even because of money that I am here and I really don't understand this money thing' Then it hit me, it is one Spirit, if God will heal me He will do it wherever I am through the His Spirit that is within. I don't even have to attend another church. So, I left quite confused but with the empty envelope. I was tempted to try sowing with a little but I waited and just prayed about it.

But, thank God for that experience because it made me to stop reading his book and any other I had planned and went directly to the bible and occasionally articles from John Piper's desiringgod.org and I noticed the world of difference between spirit-edifying bible-based teaching and what the 'prosperity word-of-faith hypergrace' people preach.

So, what is the false gospel of Benny Hinn?
There are so many articles about Benny Hinn. From asking for Katherine Kuhlman's anointing at her grave to unbiblical revelations about God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I had thought maybe Benny Hinn changed or lost it along the way because anyone who would encourage his church to read the whole bible couldn't be so bad right? His book talked about the lost emphasis on holiness by the church even then and it's not all garbage. There is rather some things to learn from his book.

But as I continue to read the bible, I discover that these deceptive practices contradict the life and teaching of Jesus Christ and His apostles and it is in fact, another gospel and definitely not of our Lord Jesus Christ. The money-loving lifestyles of Benny Hinn and his friends do not conform with the standards of 1 Tim 3:3 and Tit 1:7.

This teaching was made popular by the freemason Oral Roberts and it has invaded Africa to the point where people associate the gospel and Jesus Christ to these men of the occult. The history of the movement is quite interesting and relatively recent.

On a light note, here's a conversation about private jets by gods of men:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdH2DGSXjss

Another thing, Benny Hinn's miraculous 'slain in the spirit' and 'drunk in spirit' is similar to kundilani yoga spirits that give ecstatic feelings to the possessed. It's worse with Bill Johnson and his Bethel Church version of holy spirit. I have come to notice that the cliche 'birds of a feather flock together' cannot be any truer. These guys visit Nigeria and mingle with their allies in the deception of God's people. For the nigerian pastors, I give a benefit of doubt that some are actually sincere in propagating deceptive doctrines.

Imagine if Bill Gates, Zuckerberg and the rich others were to attend these churches, what would they preach? to sow seeds? for what then? how to make money? Or talk about pastor's money story?

The gospel of Jesus Christ is for everyone, the rich, poor, broken, healed, sick and well. It is about the finished work of salvation for victory over sin and death provided for in the blood of atonement. The message is simple and truth and it has continued to transform lives from the days of the apostles. There is power in salvation and it is usually a testimony.

The bible says those who reject and do not love the truth to be saved, God would give them a delusion so that they would believe a lie so that they would be condemned. (2 Thes 2:9-12).

What then is the truth?
'Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth...And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth[/b] (John 17:17,19)

Someone said let's not limit God. True, but I'd rather limit God to His Word that would never pass away than not limit Him to His Bible than be exposed to demonic practices and doctrines in the name of pastor, prophetic revelation and signs and wonders of men and worse believing another gospel.

The truth is the Word of God. The Bible is sufficient. Sola Scriptura. Be like the Bereans who searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so. (Acts 17:11) To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them (Isa 8:20)

Get Saved and Get Sanctified with the Word!!!
What exact are you trying to point out? Is it that prosperity teaching is demonic or alien to the Bible or Ben's conduct during the service you attended?
Politics › Re: Young Men Playing Football In Bama Formerly Held Captive By Boko Haram by Themandator: 12:18pm On Sep 25, 2016
segun400:
Bama Local Government Area used to be a ghost town due to the strong hold of Boko haram in the locality.


That is in the past as indigenes has not only returned to their locality but can be seen living freely …and playing football.


Another pic below;

Source:http://www.flexygist.com/2016/09/24/photos-young-men-spotted-playing-football-in-bama-formerly-held-captive-by-boko-haram/
This able bodied men lived in the town before it was captured or these are soldiers?
Phones › Re: Whatsapp May Incorporate Passcode And Recovery Email Options by Themandator: 2:03pm On Sep 24, 2016
Turks:
Yes is
Alright... Thank you. MMM will get it now.
Car Talk › Re: Uber Car That Arrived To Pick Up A Lady In Ghana (Photos) by Themandator: 10:51am On Sep 24, 2016
FlirtyKaren:
Ghanaian Radio/Tv/Event Host Caroline Sampson was shocked beyond words last Monday when she ordered an Uber car in Accra and this majestic ride pictured below showed up to make her day.

Caro called out Uber Ghana on Twitter and they responded with an apology and a more luxurious ride. See the photos below.

http://www.lailasblog.com/2016/09/lol-check-out-majestic-uber-car-that.html
But is she traveling out of Ghana in it... People sometimes makes mountains out of molehills.. . Mobility
Crime › Re: You Are Not Authorised To Kill, Idris To SARS by Themandator: 10:48am On Sep 24, 2016
Mcowubaba:
SARS is useless....
The have done more harm than Good....
The are bunch of hooligans and street urchins
Same with Mobile police, these group of humans should be in extinction, the are absolutely useless
Mobile policeman too?
Crime › Re: You Are Not Authorised To Kill, Idris To SARS by Themandator: 10:44am On Sep 24, 2016
kuuljay:
SARS!!! Civilians dread them even more than the robbers, dirty looking people who think they are above the law... one of them knocked somebody's car from behind and when the young man complained he went to his trunk and pulled out an AK47 not knowing the other person and his friend were soldiers,they quickly disarmed him and started beating him, I jumped down from my car and joined in the beating because that particular guy is known for harassing people in the area.
cool grin tongue
Phones › Re: Whatsapp May Incorporate Passcode And Recovery Email Options by Themandator: 10:33am On Sep 24, 2016
Turks:
At this rate, people would get tired. The Whatsapp app is gradually going from simple to complex...


Meanwhile;


















[size=30pt]ALLO[/size] from the other side grin
Is it available, now?
Phones › Re: Whatsapp May Incorporate Passcode And Recovery Email Options by Themandator: 10:29am On Sep 24, 2016
dlux:
Just a security measure if you ask me. You know Facebook now owns Whatsapp
My problem with Facebook is just that their apps keeps growing and occupying rams... I got rid of Facebook and messenger, this morning, because I noticed both combined had over 500mb to themselves. I will go through browser.
Crime › Re: Armed Robbers Shot Dead In Abuja During Night Operation. Graphic Photo by Themandator: 10:25am On Sep 24, 2016
PrettyCrystal:
Two armed robbers have met their end while on operation at 5th avenue Gwarinpa area of Abuja. The hoodlums after gaining entrance in a compound in the area, started to rob flat by flat before a distress call was put out by a resident to the police. The security operatives immediately showed up -gunned down these two while the other two escaped.

Read what was shared by a witness, Ijeoma....

Ok everyone,God showed up.dead hours of the last night at 5th avenue gwarinpa this guys with two others showed up.drastically dealing with the security man and his family,they had their way in and started robbing each flat.

I will have to commend the police for showing up not too Long after a my friend distressed call was given to one of them who's station is at gwarinpa police station.two were not caught,but this two paid for it.Am full of Joy,And I bless God cus my friend's flat was the only one they couldn't break into.His call put an end to it,saved the whole house and sent this two who has refuse to repent were they belong.Thank you so much Jesus,am grateful.


http://www.nationalhelm.net/2016/09/armed-robbers-shot-dead-during-night.html
The author of this piece lacks wisdom or discretion... He or she just made a target of his so called friend..... The only flat not robbed made the call
Phones › Re: Google Battles Whatsapp With The New Allo Messaging Application by Themandator: 8:25pm On Sep 21, 2016
JeffreyJames:
Yeah me too.
How did you do it?
Politics › Re: Vote APGA In 2019 And Rice Will Become N9000 - Anambra Gov., Obiano by Themandator: 3:15pm On Sep 21, 2016
Cutehector:
I love this man. But we shouldn't vote based on party.



Dats one thing dats killing the nation.



I rather vote for someone who is capable from a low profile party Dan someone who is incapable from a high profile party.


Can Willie Obiano do the Job? Well, let's see how his tenure goes as d Governor of Anambra state.



Secondly, politicians shoulq quit this "future promises" mentality to win the hearts of the people.

If your intention in becoming the president is just to reduce the price of rice then you are more or less likely the same as the promise and fail past Governments.



The price of rice is never Nigeria's problem.

One key thing must be properly looked into and must have a solution in blue print before coming out to indicate one's interest for the highest office in the country.



What is your plan to boost Nigeria's economy? Encompasses all sectors
The party manifesto should matter to you in your choice of a candidate because it represents his scheme of work.
Phones › Re: Check Out Whatsapp New Update With Cool Features by Themandator: 7:26am On Sep 20, 2016
Nbote:
Their updates are rolled out in batches. Everyone doesn't get d updates at the same time, most times a couple of days or weeks interval even though it's on d same playstore.
A beta tester gets those first.. some of those features might not come up as updates.
Crime › Re: Guy Beaten For Stealing A Phone In Warri (graphic Photos) by Themandator: 7:29pm On Sep 17, 2016
mezynaija:
Source: http://www.jtownconnect.com/2016/09/see-how-this-young-man-almost-lost-his.html
Crowd sourcing the beat.. . Trust Warri dem design d guy upper region and am with a legs
Business › Re: Dangote To FG: Sell NLNG, Beef Up Reserves, And Recession Will Go By December.. by Themandator: 7:16pm On Sep 17, 2016
I saw 'proper economic policies'.. He means what we are banding about is not proper economic policies.
Investment › Re: CBN Warns Nigerians Against “MMM”, Calls It Wonder Bank by Themandator: 12:26pm On Sep 16, 2016
Kennydoc:
Deep down within your heart, do you really believe this stuff you wrote?
Are you guys wiser and more intelligent than the economists and financial analysts that have been running our economy through the CBN over the years? I'm not saying they are perfect, but it's a very complex process. It's like telling a professor of surgery to shut up his mouth because you have an opinion from a patent medicine dealer. Kai!

Comparing banks and MMM:
1) If all the depositors in a bank come for their money the same day, and all those who took loans also return their money, a bank with good financial management will be able to pay back most (or even all) of its depositors.
Interest on loans is much higher than the interest on deposits including fixed deposits cos there are much fewer people who take loans than those who make deposits. If the interest rate is the same, banks won't be able to maintain interest on deposits.
In essence, the little interest paid to numerous depositors comes from the large interest charged to the few people that take loans.
Meanwhile, if all those that last provided help in MMM ask for their money and no new person provides help, there will be no money to pay them. The scheme will immediately collapse, but not just that. It will collapse will several millions of people without any possibility of paying them back.

2) Banks also have several other avenues through which they generate money. They sell forex and make several millions from it. For example, they get forex from CBN and sometimes sell them with upwards of ₦50 difference. If FBN sells $10 million to traders in a month, that is ₦500 million naira profit, or even up to ₦1 billion, if they sell at ₦100 naira gain. Mind you that they also charge outrageous amounts on card transactions in other currencies.
Again, banks charge money on current accounts and their transactions, funds transfers and several other bank charges on different transactions.
It's all these businesses that banks do that keep them afloat and not just because they collect deposits of people.
That is why First Bank has been there since 1894, and will still remain for many more decades or even centuries.

3) You guys keep bad-mouthing banks and their systems, yet the MMM uses banks for it's operations. Participants make bank transactions, and even their interests are retained in banks. How convenient to use the principle of banking only when it favours you.

You guys are really dumb in all these stupid explanations you give to defend the fraudulent scheme, MMM.
Now, let's create a scenario here.
Assuming that in the next 2 years (say September 2018), there are 80 million participants in MMM out of our population of about 180 million, and 40 million of them provide an average help of 1 million naira each (I said average cos I know many will provide help less than 1 million and many others will provide more than 1 million). That will be 40 trillion naira worth of help provided. By the following month, the 40 million people that provided the 40 trillion naira help will need to get help worth 52 trillion naira. That means an additional 12 trillion naira help must be provided in that next month. Remember we're assuming that each participant provides help worth 1 million naira, it then means there must be an additional 12 million people that will join the scheme that next month added to the original 40 million to be able to provide help worth 52 trillion naira. By the following month (November), the amount of help that will be provided for that 52 million people will be worth 67.6 trillion naira, and it will be provided by 67.6 million people. That is an additional 15.6 million people that MUST join the scheme in that November and must equally provide an average help of 1 million each. So it means that in 2 months, the 80 million (40 million + 40 million) participants must grow to 119.6 million (52 million + 67.6 million).
Remember we've not even factored the effect of the 10% paid to those that refer new people.

Can you now see how stupid this scheme is?
You say it isn't a pyramid scheme meanwhile, you pay people 10% for every new sign up, thereby making participants hustle to sign up new people.
I just laugh at the idiocy you guys display here on Nairaland.
I took out time to chat on WhatsApp with 2 Nairalanders like you who were defending MMM few weeks ago and by the time I finished making my explanation, they agreed with me that the scheme isn't sustainable. Their only point is that they will benefit from it before it collapses. I now ask, who are the people that will lose when it does collapse?
You can't make your contributions without resorting to insult... Idiocy, stupid and the rest...... You are solving a scenario that is never going to happen.. .. And I will go beyond this with you
Investment › Re: CBN Warns Nigerians Against “MMM”, Calls It Wonder Bank by Themandator: 12:18pm On Sep 16, 2016
Pierocash:
it ruite unfortunate that CBN has joined d team of ignorant wailers attacking MMM without finding out how it works.how wil MMM RUN wit peoples money,is MMM a bank?do they av access to anybody's money that they wil run away wit?.no body pays to MMM,It is only a
platform connecting participant who donate to each other directly thru individual bank accounts.they should stop attacking MMM,no participant har ever lost a dime to MMM over d yrs
Long live MMM
Don't mind the ignoramus trying to protect their jobs....
Celebrities › Re: Wande Coal Adds Weight, Pot-Belly Visible In New Photo by Themandator: 2:26pm On Sep 13, 2016
aluko360:
The black in black diamond has enveloped his career.

It's too late to retrace your steps Wande as. Reekad0 banks has taken the shine.

Hope you saved enough cash at the peak your career?
You might be right... His album is not even the talk of the town.... His hits happens to be collaborations on other people's work..Patoranking and Olamide
Celebrities › Re: Wande Coal Adds Weight, Pot-Belly Visible In New Photo by Themandator: 2:21pm On Sep 13, 2016
jeff1993:
Don Jazzy is a phenomenon ....... Those who work with him and decide to leave without his blessings are gone for life .... ask Dbanj n KSwitch ..... dem go yarn u ...... I just read DT Dbanj has part way with kanye west goodmusic label after 6 unproductive years!!!!!
Never offend a man that gives his all to make it happen for you... . If they were to pay for every input.. Beats and lyrics,.. . of that great guy as it is done in America that dbanj found out too late they would have appreciated him more.. . Dbanj OK but Wande was picked as a nobody and given free beats hoping it turns out profitably for all and when he tasted the limelight it became an opportunity to bad mouth don jazzy.

Who you epp if I hear.. . He sang in Olamide:a hit track.
Celebrities › Re: Wande Coal Adds Weight, Pot-Belly Visible In New Photo by Themandator: 2:14pm On Sep 13, 2016
Keneking:
Wande Coal - I enjoyed his hits back then.

Where is his gold chain sef? Abi recession don carry am
Collateral things: Olamide Na keep them. tongue
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Just Tired Of Going To Church! Is This Normal? by Themandator: 5:41pm On Sep 11, 2016
martineinstein:
dats y i dont want to go to church anymore.....i feel i dont get to hear what i want to hear.ie,preaching the core message of jesus...i just chose to listen to one cathhholic father ehusani on ait by 11pm on sunday.
What is the core message of Jesus Christ?
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Just Tired Of Going To Church! Is This Normal? by Themandator: 5:40pm On Sep 11, 2016
pofolo:
bro....e tire me sef here.....

when pastors are jostling for posts, see carcus for church...
we neutrals just dey they look as the drama unfolds...

plus even money to transport go church, pay offering, pay tithe n building project sef recession don chop am.

guess its normal this recession period.
If you are in recession, check again, there is no spirit of God in you.. It is abnormal to be led by the spirit of God and be in recession. Mk 16v17
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Just Tired Of Going To Church! Is This Normal? by Themandator: 5:38pm On Sep 11, 2016
Weah96:
Entertainment mixed with the euphoria obtained from inspirational speaking is not the revival being sought. You get those in a nice bar or club.
God inhabits the praise (that you call entertainment) of his people. It is the one thing that brings the actual presence of God down.. .. No amount of prayer brings God down.. You want me to show you this in the Bible?

Your Pastor inspires you to go after the word in your own time.. If you call that inspirational speaking, good.. It is better than being in an environment where you can only defend the practices of your church with statements like, 'when did your church start that you think you know better than us'.. Arrogance of ignorance
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Just Tired Of Going To Church! Is This Normal? by Themandator: 5:34pm On Sep 11, 2016
sambrovic:
Is it necessary to go to church,when you are holy and God fearing and all what will be preached in church is holiness and righteousness.
There's proof of holiness and righteousness... If you don't know them then you need to go to church, for you don't serve God for nothing.
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Just Tired Of Going To Church! Is This Normal? by Themandator: 5:32pm On Sep 11, 2016
Olalekanbanky1:
When u pple prefer going to new generation churches where the true gospel of Jesus are not preached, when won't u feel Bored? Stop attending churches where the pastors preach like motivational speakers. Attend a church where the pastor will preach and make u feel like a rag b4 Jesus and d need for u to change back to Jesus.

If u attend churches dat preaches prosperity, with the current economic situation, u will feel bored by fire by force
You are confused: you can't be a Christian and a rag at the same time... Christianity is Christ like... Every gospel of Christ is on the platform of repentance. You can't operate in the name of Jesus in sin.

As for your adversion to prosperity teachings: The proof of genuine discipleship is exploit.. . Mk 16 v17
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Just Tired Of Going To Church! Is This Normal? by Themandator: 5:17pm On Sep 11, 2016
Boyooosa:
It is normal when the church you attend is Kay Roo Boo where they do service of 11 hrs (9am - 8pm), all through prayers as if spiritual war is 3rd world war and the WORD is not actually given much attention. Another one is where they bore you with 'Owo igba', 'owo awo', 'owo ikoko baba isasun' and the likes. when they will not use good time to teach you how to recoup all the monies back and live a decent life in Christ.. They remix their outdated sermon every week to your hearing, how u no go tire. My brother, find good work, get married if you have not and enjoy the rest of your life (but try to locate a good place of worship where they share the gospel of 'Good Living in Christ' with you.
Any church that gives attention to the word must do all the issues you raise above in Moderation the because they are all scriptural.
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Just Tired Of Going To Church! Is This Normal? by Themandator: 5:15pm On Sep 11, 2016
mrZENographer:
Follow me to THE LORD'S CHOSEN CHARISMATIC REVIVAL MOVEMENT CHURCH and you will never get bored serving God but be revived. Lets connect. pm me.
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Many churches today are a disappointment and are instrumental to making many people conclude that there is no God or arrive at ungodly conclusion to their own detriment. This is the literal work of the enemy of God, Satan and his numerous agent: humans and demons. To spoil churches and make its goers to become vain.
How do you mean many churches are a disappointment and and what make choosen different?
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Just Tired Of Going To Church! Is This Normal? by Themandator: 4:25pm On Sep 11, 2016
Sermwell:
That must be winners chapel! I know their antics grin that's why I created this thread!
That's can't be enough reason not to attend church. Find another church... What you call antics is responsible for my lifting.
Different chur he's are called for different assignments, find the one that attends to your challenge.
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Just Tired Of Going To Church! Is This Normal? by Themandator: 4:04pm On Sep 11, 2016
Sermwell:
I feel going to church is just a waste of time since they are all going to be repeating themselves undecided everyone here in our house is busy preparing for tomorrow's sunday service but I don't see the big deal and I'm already making up my mind not to attend any church service anymore! I'm just tired abeg!! I hope this is normal!
It is not normal.
You probably might be attending a church meant for another category of Christians....
No church is called to preach the Bible!!
The callings is for specific assignment.
Phones › Re: Ranking Of Phones In Nigeria by Themandator: 6:41pm On Sep 10, 2016
9PBLIVE:
That's my ranking. If you disagree drop yours

Don't abuse please!!
Is it in terms of sales volume or price or quality?
Business › Re: 19 Facts About Dangote’s Refinery And Petrochemical Plant by Themandator: 7:55am On Sep 08, 2016
majekdom2:
Investments are risks. Perhaps, the billionaires you know are not ready to take this kind of risk.
No. The man has a way of fighting off competition. Remember he once fought his friend Otedola because he wanted to venture into hisine of business.. They were settled by Obj
Family › Re: Husband Beats Wife For "Buhari Is Working" Comment (Photos) by Themandator: 11:23am On Sep 06, 2016
sukkot:
intelligent response. some valid points made. but i assure you there is a method to the madness.
Can you explain this method, please.

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