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PoliticsRe: Can A Northern Christian/middle Belt Represent The North In The Presidency by theoctopus: 5:25am On Dec 27, 2013
@op, if you check all the people opposing you very well, you will discover that they are all Yoruba muslims. cheesy
PoliticsRe: NNPC Fraud: CBN Governor Sanusi To Proceed On Post-retirement Leave In March by theoctopus: 4:51am On Dec 27, 2013
adconline: Sanusi said $12bn
Okonjo Iweala said $10.8bn
The point is that huge amount of money is missing.. Google university is tuition free
You are permanently daft. Learn to read. Nothing is missing except Sanusi's brains
PoliticsRe: NNPC Fraud: CBN Governor Sanusi To Proceed On Post-retirement Leave In March by theoctopus: 10:53pm On Dec 26, 2013
Pukkah: But when is government going to announce Sanusi's succesor?

It's nice for the two of them to work together for at least 3 months.

One thing is also clear - Sanusi has stirred the hornet's nest. He should expect them to come after him later. Like I have said before on this forum, his two weaknesses (mentioned in the opening post) may turn out to be his albatross.
Why cant you guys just admit that Sanusi goofed. What he did is actually a crime against the Nigerian state. Even Pat Utomi, an APC member said that Sanusi hurt the Nigerian economy by his actions and that the damage will take years to fix. It is sad that some of you are really ready to pull Nigeria down just to score cheap political points
TravelRe: Jonathan Transforms Murtala Muhammed Airport, Lagos - Pics by theoctopus: 10:45pm On Dec 26, 2013
agbameta: Why are you crediting GEJ? Is he the Aviation minister?
You are now officially a descendant of Confusion! cheesy cheesy cheesy
CareerRe: FG To Investigate Case Of Pregnant Worker Beaten By Lebanese Boss by theoctopus: 10:20pm On Dec 26, 2013
Why would this not happen when some of you go around insulting Nigeria. If Nigerians treat Nigeria so badly, how do you want foreigners to treat us. When a state governor can tell a widow to go and die, then obviously, a foreigner watching would be saying, oh dear! These people have low self esteem We can take advantage of them!
PoliticsRe: Have The Igbos Contributed To The Decimation Of GEJ Support Across The Regions?? by theoctopus: 9:54pm On Dec 26, 2013
Kairoseki77: You are obviously being paid.
Maybe a pay rise would have helped you on this your hatchet job. You are disgracing your employers. GO back to school grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: The North Is Not One And Will Never Be In 2015 by theoctopus(op): 9:40pm On Dec 26, 2013
fiizznation: owkay now I believe u r totally lost. May u find ur way!! grin
And just to ask. What is APC ideology again? cheesy
PoliticsRe: Have The Igbos Contributed To The Decimation Of GEJ Support Across The Regions?? by theoctopus:
Kairoseki77: I don't worship anyone.

Using common sense, I know that we need two parties in a democracy. That is a fact.
A one party monopoly will doom us as a nation, and as a people.


Using common sense, I know that Tinubu is the ONLY person who is fighting to make a two party system a reality. And guess what, Tinubu is a performer. Fashola is a performer. Most ACN governors are performers. So, I am hoping that they create a party of performers.

HOWEVER! Even if APC becomes as corrupt as PDP, the competition between the two parties will bring MASSIVE dividends to Nigerians. So let's move one step at a time. Let's support the creation of a two party system. Let's get engaged and involved in the process. Then later we can make them FIGHT for our vote by increasing their performance.

Because right now, politicians have no incentive to increase their performance. They just need to steal enough to win the PDP primary and then they are GUARANTEED a term. No. I want PDP to be scared (shaking!) that APC will take their seat if they do not perform, and I want APC to have the same fear. That is democracy.

That system doesn't work if the parties are divided along region and tribe. We all need to be on the same page for this to work.
APC can never become as corrupt as PDP because APC is far more corrupt than PDP... cheesy

The worst corruption in Nigeria is going on in APC states. But the good thing about PDP is that they are the only democratic party out there. They are the only party were people can air their views and disagree. APC is a cult where Tinubu and Buhari reign supreme. Just look at the shambles going on in Lagos state. Performance my foot. Lagos state government is a fraud. APC governors are all frauds. All they do is propaganda. Please show me the world class hospitals in Lagos after 14 years? Why did Tinubu go to the UK to treat his knee if he is a performer? Where are the Lagos state world class schools? Oh, I remember. Lagos state schools are those ones where students where hanging on the window because there were no seats. Liars and hypocrites
PoliticsRe: Have The Igbos Contributed To The Decimation Of GEJ Support Across The Regions?? by theoctopus: 9:12pm On Dec 26, 2013
ilugunboy: Your eye go clear....

My only advice for people like you is to stay in your region for safety if GEJ plan on massive rigging....since that is the way he won't go back to Otuoke in 2015
You remind me of those area boys who always brag at bus stops! grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Have The Igbos Contributed To The Decimation Of GEJ Support Across The Regions?? by theoctopus: 9:11pm On Dec 26, 2013
Kairoseki77: When you finally realize that you cannot eat with Stella Oduah's stolen money, you will be free from mental slavery. When you realize that you deserve more than failed leadership, you will be free. When you gain self esteem and realize that YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE who can free yourself, you will be free, and no longer mentally enslaved to our corrupt FG.
You want to be free, yet you worship Tinubu. what an irony... grin
PoliticsRe: Have The Igbos Contributed To The Decimation Of GEJ Support Across The Regions?? by theoctopus: 8:49pm On Dec 26, 2013
ilugunboy: All I see here is frustration....wait, you never see anything.

We are all going to play the game very well in 2015.
You are a noise maker. You said this same thing for Ondo and Anambra elections. APC is a noise making party
PoliticsRe: Have The Igbos Contributed To The Decimation Of GEJ Support Across The Regions?? by theoctopus: 8:38pm On Dec 26, 2013
Kairoseki77: Don't even bother responding.

Just look in the mirror and see that you are your own worst enemy.
You are spewing nonsense. Nobody cares about your opinion. You can keep it to yourself cheesy cheesy cheesy
PoliticsRe: Have The Igbos Contributed To The Decimation Of GEJ Support Across The Regions?? by theoctopus: 8:29pm On Dec 26, 2013
[quote author=Ngene-Ukwenu]Who are you to question my ethnic status? It is even a shame sharing an entity with morons like you! Nkita rachaakwa gi ike!

You call it propaganda? Goodluck to you and Jonathan in 2015.[/quote]I will question you because you are spewing nonsense. People gang up against a man for tribal, regional and religious reasons, yet you accuse the same man of tribalism. How?

Was it because of GEJ's tribalism that the core north supported Yaradua's wife to hold on to power? Was it because of GEJ's tribalism that there was a post election riot? Was it because of his tribalism that BH went on rampage and asked him to declare for Islam or he would not have peace? Was it because of his tribalism that there was a northern consensus candidate?

I challenge you to prove your tribalism accusation and you post another nonsense about him praising the Igbos for supporting him? How that translates to tribalism, I dont know and can never phantom. If you are idle, why not go watch a movie instead of coming on here to post crap!
PoliticsRe: The North Is Not One And Will Never Be In 2015 by theoctopus(op): 8:23pm On Dec 26, 2013
fiizznation: which northern governors forum is in disarray? The one that jst held their meeting lst week ?
All the above names u mention excluding chiroma r frm plateau and benue states respectively. And I hav earlier told u that those two states might eventually go to the pdp. So what r u telling me?
U said I shdnt speak for the north. if I dnt speak for them, r u the one to speak for them?
I represent the north more than u and ur fellow pdp-ants..

The north hav never hav a block vote since 2003. And I dnt think they ll ever hav a block vote.

But that won't stop the APC frm winning the entire north and the sw.
Or u think the APC folks dnt knw all these hindrance?
Btw why r u guys so concern abt the north all of a sudden? I shd to think the ss/se votes r enough for u as majority of u normally say.

Pdp is already dead and 2015 ll jst b the year the evil party ll be send to the nether
PDP is still the only truly national party yet. APC is just trying to achieve that. They cannot become that overnight, not even with the defection of five governors. Northern Governors forum is in disarray and has been so since the NGF saga. Votes will be divided in 2015 for many reasons. Kwakwanso and Shekarau have just started their fight and it is going to be explosive with Mohamed Abacha and Al mustapha standing by. The same fight will go on around many APC states. The claim of a united APC is laughable. very laughable indeed. keep dreaming grin
PoliticsRe: Have The Igbos Contributed To The Decimation Of GEJ Support Across The Regions?? by theoctopus: 8:13pm On Dec 26, 2013
[quote author=Ngene-Ukwenu]I dont expect you agree anyway cos that is trademark of Jonathanians! But know that,, that thing i smoke is being smoked by millions of Nigeria who the corrupt and inefficient govt of your paymaster has devalued their means of survival.[/quote]Now I now you are one fake guy on here posturing as an Igbo. You deceive only yourself. Which Nigerians are you talking about? You mean these fake people on NL? You mean Nigerians will choose a gang up of Buhari, IBB, OBJ, Tinubu and Atiku over GEJ? Liar! Fake guy like you spreading propaganda
PoliticsRe: Have The Igbos Contributed To The Decimation Of GEJ Support Across The Regions?? by theoctopus: 8:04pm On Dec 26, 2013
[quote author=Ngene-Ukwenu]"The Igbos have been the strongest pillar of my government" GEJ

Second: During Anambra Guber election, I watched on Television as Aurther Eze took the microphone and asked Ndi Anambra not to vote Ngige because his party belonged to those who killed and betrayed Ndigbo he said this in presence of Jonathan and his aides. No caution, No dilution, No alibi from the President. What other evidence are you looking for??[/quote]This is the biggest nonsense you have posted yet. I cant believe it! So what is wrong for the president to say that The Igbos have been the strongest pillar of my government? First, is he an Igbo? If he had said that to the Ijaws, I will even listen to you a bit. Is he an Igbo? So how can that pass for tribal politics if he is saying that to people from another tribe? Have you not heard Obama praising the people of Chicago as his greatest supporters?

So if Arthur Eze said that, GEJ should have taken the mic from him and done what? I told you I need that thing you are smoking. If that is your evidence that GEJ is playing tribal politics, then you have absolutely nothing to say and you should go and sleep. The people playing tribal politics are those supporting BH, asking muslims to only vote for muslims, deporting people from their states and asking GEJ to hand power to them because it is their right
PoliticsRe: The North Is Not One And Will Never Be In 2015 by theoctopus(op): 7:45pm On Dec 26, 2013
fiizznation: hausa/fulani oligarchy u said• So which state in the north r the hausa/fulani not found ?
jst pray the APC doesn't join suit and play the enthic/religion card. They hav the majority followers and it ll be very disastrous for the pdp.
I can't make u change ur belief abt d north, u can belief whatever u want to believe.
Strategize frm now till 2015, still pdp ll never win a single zone in d north.
If u think pdp ll fetch enough votes in the NC/MB, then u my frd is on a dangerous, deluded way of reasoning.
The earlier u and ur cohorts wake-up, the better for u.. Am a northerner and u r frm the east. U can't post frm ur region to tell me about my region. I leave u in peace. grin
1. APC does not have majority followers. That is a fake media propaganda. They still dont even have structures in many states

2. You do not and cannot speak for the north. The north is not going to have a block vote. That is only a figment of your imagination. The north is as divided, even more, than the south

3. I am not from the east. Stop being a bigot and attributing everyone who doesnt support your fake claim to be from the east

4. Your region is either north east or north west. The north as one region with one block vote doesnt exist anymore. Gowon, Danjuma, David Mark, late Chiroma, etc, do not share your sentiments. Speak for yourself. The northern governors forum is already in disarray.
PoliticsRe: Have The Igbos Contributed To The Decimation Of GEJ Support Across The Regions?? by theoctopus: 7:39pm On Dec 26, 2013
[quote author=Ngene-Ukwenu]i just corrected the falsehood you wanted to spread here about nothing has changed, that Jonathan won those states. Tribal politics actually did not start from Jonathan but he took it another level and also joined in spreading it .[/quote]In what way has GEJ ever promoted tribal politics? Please can you state it here or forever hold your peace.

Some folks say he should step down for them because it is their regions right to rule, he refused and you say he is the one playing tribal politics? What are you smoking honestly. I want some. When has GEJ ever promoted tribal politics. Please tell me now!
PoliticsRe: Have The Igbos Contributed To The Decimation Of GEJ Support Across The Regions?? by theoctopus: 7:09pm On Dec 26, 2013
[quote author=Ngene-Ukwenu].

You are just clever by half!

Jonathan won kwara and Adamawa and had the constitutional required 25% from at least 2 of the rest states. However going forward, i can bet with anything that he not gonna get past 5% in those areas in 2015 owing what you and your likes have caused him with the tribal and religious bashing of other ethnic groups![/quote]You are an ignoramus. The Adamawa south population will always vote GEJ. Nothing much has changed from 2011. Tribal and religious bashing? Please can you wake up? Was it GEJ's made some people to pursue a consensus northern candidate? or that made fashola deport non indegines? Or for people to go killing youth corpers on the streets? You are either deceiving yourself or you are a fake SE guy on NL. How can you blame an armed robbery victim for the crimes of the armed robbers? Did the north start to hate the south under GEJ? Did tribal politics start under GEJ? What nonsense are you posting on NL? Plase let us hear word with this your fake thread
PoliticsRe: The North Is Not One And Will Never Be In 2015 by theoctopus(op): 6:52pm On Dec 26, 2013
juman: @OP

To win election good governance is necessary not just propaganda.

grin
Yes, in an ideal society. But Nigeria is not an ideal society yet. We aint even a true nation yet. You only deceive yourself if you think so
PoliticsRe: Exposed!!! Premium Times Propaganda With Misleading Headlines by theoctopus: 6:47pm On Dec 26, 2013
Thank you op for the info. We will bookmark it for the future. Dont mind the APC trolls on here. There are becoming less relevant by the day as the country is getting to discover they are just fighting to grab power at the center so they can also loot like they are looting in their states. Keep up the good job
PoliticsRe: The North Is Not One And Will Never Be In 2015 by theoctopus(op): 6:42pm On Dec 26, 2013
fiizznation: u keep bringing facebook into everything.. How many northerners r even on faceboook? 10,ooo,ooo or 3o,ooo,ooo? U r either lost or high on some cheap weed. u also keep mentioning the core north, who r these core northerners please? Buhari also hav facebook fans frm the se and ss and nobody is capitalizing on that.
the only card u pdp folks will use in the nxt general election ll be ethnic/religion card and u wont even succeed. Gej knws that, sambo also knws that, tukur is nt also exempted.
Spew tons of trash here about what u dnt knw, and u ll be shock with the way gej ll be defeated in the north..
I only pray u dnt commit suicide when that eventually happens
I use facebook because that is something that can be measured, at least compared to your anonymous NL moniker. The core north mainly refers to the Hausa.Fulani oligarchy that has sought to rule the rest of Nigeria since independence and also sought to determine who rules even when they are out of power.

You cant speak for the north. I will continue to correct you on that. As for religion and ethnicity, that has always been the basis for Nigerian politics. In 2011, some northerners came together and advocated a northern consensus candidate. Was GEJ responsible for that? During the polls, GEJ lost in many core northern states while PDP won in those same states GEJ lost. WHat do yo call that? Isnt that about religion and ethnicity? Keep deceiving only yourself
PoliticsRe: The North Is Not One And Will Never Be In 2015 by theoctopus(op): 6:36pm On Dec 26, 2013
[quote author=enigma_otr]I thought you said my opinion doesn't count because I'm just a faceless Nairalander. Now that I told GEJ will never win in Kwara, you're saying we have slave mentality, but didn't prove me wrong. If I tell you GEJ will also lose in Niger state, what would you say about Niger people?

Now give me a prove that Gov. Ahmed was the fulani candidate?[/quote]Is there any where I said GEJ will win in Kwara? GEJ not winning in Kwara is the same thing as GEJ not winning in Zamfara. It has nothing to do with your opinion. It is all part of the analysis I have been making
PoliticsRe: The North Is Not One And Will Never Be In 2015 by theoctopus(op): 6:17pm On Dec 26, 2013
Aigipan: So because he told you the truth u resulted to cheap insults and irrelevant analysis .
Which truth? Did he say anything new or different from what I have said all day? Is there anywhere I previously claimed Kwara will vote GEJ? Abeg let me say the real truth jare. Kwara is a Fulani controlled Yoruba state. Deal with it! grin
PoliticsRe: The North Is Not One And Will Never Be In 2015 by theoctopus(op): 6:07pm On Dec 26, 2013
fiizznation: he never campaigned ? Then how comes pictures of him campaigning in the ss and se were taken? If u jst say u dnt like buhari, i ll undastand. But cooking up lies against him is ridiculous . as a northerner, i dnt even want buhari to be d flag bearer of apc, and u ll be surprise that many northerners share this same idea with me.
If the apc ll present a credible candidate for us we will vote for him
Many of u think that the northeners dislike gej because he is a xtian or frm the south.. Who even cares abt the president in the north. An average northerner dnt even knw the name of the president of nigeria especially the remote ones leaving in rural areas. The northerners r jst tired of the party called pdp.. if a respected personality like buhari shd contest for the seat of presidency under the pdp, i tell u many northerners wont vote him. I personally wont vote for him.
We just want changes and pdp will never bring that positive changes.
The north ll vote for a fashola/amaechi/ribadu/duke over any candidate the pdp will present.
Gone r the days of ethnic/religion politics played in the north. We r too sophiscated for that, we knw we ll be at the receiving end if we said we want to introduce such backward politics....
All we the north want is change, we didnt say we might get that change frm apc. But we want to give them a trial
We hav tried pdp for too long and all we end up reaping is failure and more poverty.
Your post is an irony. You say you want a change from PDP so you go on and support another party that is now a collection of the worst of PDP? Isnt that funny? You should speak for yourself, not the north. Go on Facebook and follow middlebelt groups and see what their opinions are. Stop posting false claims about the north on NL. The core north just wants the power back because government is their core business. The average core northerner believes that the FG is supposed to take care of them. The core north runs on a feudal system. That is why stuff like BH can thrive there.
PoliticsRe: Have The Igbos Contributed To The Decimation Of GEJ Support Across The Regions?? by theoctopus: 6:00pm On Dec 26, 2013
Complete rubbish thread: grin

1. GEJ is not an Igbo candidate. A ridiculous assertion by some APC folks

2. There is no evidence that GEJ's support has changed all over the country. G5 exit and their state reps following suite, is not indication that GEJ's support has changed in any way. Those G5 states, apart from Rivers, never voted GEj in 2011. So how has their exit hurt GEJ? IF anything, it has helped GEJ as it has made it clear there is a northern agenda to bring a core Northerner back. That only strengthens GEJ's support in places like the middle belt and south west
PoliticsRe: The North Is Not One And Will Never Be In 2015 by theoctopus(op): 5:52pm On Dec 26, 2013
abbeysteph: Oponu leyi sha,wat an ignorant who told you we lagosians ar tired of fashola.where were you wen pple are singn of koro ibo nd yet voted 4 fashola or u ar not educated enuf 2 read about d yoruba history trust d yorubas at ur own peril.
That is your answer right there! Enjoy! grin

https://www.nairaland.com/849390/lagosians-boo-fashola-calls-him

and more

https://www.nairaland.com/1519459/activists-protest-fasholas-presence-baba

Merry Christmas
PoliticsRe: The North Is Not One And Will Never Be In 2015 by theoctopus(op): 5:43pm On Dec 26, 2013
raphead: Jamiu is that how mama olobi always use abara to reset your faulty brain. Coming from a goon that his mustard seed size brain run on less o.s than my grandpa cupboard t.v that is priceless.
Too dry! Try harder grin
PoliticsRe: The North Is Not One And Will Never Be In 2015 by theoctopus(op): 5:34pm On Dec 26, 2013
jmaine: Your curse is as good as shyte cos it packs the same negligible values as you .


You deserve to be given a sharp blow to your skull to reset it for the sake of sane folks.
Dont waste your time on kids with cheap Etisalat bonus connection. It aint worth it, believe me! grin
PoliticsRe: The North Is Not One And Will Never Be In 2015 by theoctopus(op): 5:29pm On Dec 26, 2013
[quote author=enigma_otr]I may not be able to speak for all the states in the North Central, but I certainly can speak for my state. Count Kwara out of your equation![/quote]Kwara votes along religious lines and also along the hausa/fulani agenda. That will not change for now. We know they have a slave mentality. They are ruled by the fulani in their own land. Kwara has about the worst political followership in Nigeria. Even worse than many core northern states. They have no mind of their own. They just follow the kwara ruling class. Even Kano or Borno can still have voters who will not want to follow the status quo, but not kwara. They dont even follow Yoruba sentiments. Even a Yoruba candidate is not guaranteed a block vote in Kwara except that Yoruba candidate is also the fulani candidate. grin
PoliticsRe: The North Is Not One And Will Never Be In 2015 by theoctopus(op): 5:22pm On Dec 26, 2013
fiizznation: facts that r base on lies and deceit... yesterday one of ur brother was bursted when he lied that buhari never campaigned in ss and se in d 2011 elections
Pictures of buhari campaigning in d ss and se were even shown to him.. But to my greatest surprise, ur brother/pdp e-rat shamelessly said that buhari actually campaigned in ss and se but didnt spend more than 30mins there.. So u see the kind of lies u and oda pdp ants spread just to score some cheap points. grin
Go back to that thread and see my post. I came late to the thread but put in my two cents. Nobody busted him. You guys just tried to shout him down because he was clearly not good at this. He was actually very correct. Go back to the thread and see my post! Buhari never campaigned in the SS and SE. He didnt even campaign properly in the SW. His lagos campaign was a big shame for a presidential aspirant. Buhari is a bigot
PoliticsRe: The North Is Not One And Will Never Be In 2015 by theoctopus(op): 4:58pm On Dec 26, 2013
ilugunboy: Nope.....we've agreed here that performance and achievement will take the back seat as we go into 2015...,it's all going down to religion...and ethnicity....SW will eventually tilt it....and surely not in favor of GEJ this time around.
I only responded to your post. Yes, Nigerian elections, especially at the center, will never be about performance for now. Most voters are not part of social media or NL, contrary to what a lot of you might think. We could have started the movement towards performance based voting since 2011, but truth be told, this northern candidate thing has taken us back several years.

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