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SuperIgbo1:
Why didn't the white supremacist attack black Christians? The truth is nobody wants muslims to mess up their country, especially black and Arab muslims.

France and Germany allowed these people to migrate to their countries, now they're messing up the whole place. Do you know the number of Muslim migrants arrested in Germany last year for plotting bomb attacks and executing bomb attacks? The refugees from Syria and other Islamic nations should start migrating to Saudi Arabia, their origin town - nobody wants them in the US and Europe.

White supremacists have attacked black Christians in the USA....good example Dylan Roof.(A famous historical example comes from 1963 when another black church was firebombed by KKK terrorists. Three black girls died).

whirlwind7:
Out of curiosity, I want to ask this: what's the difference between right wing and left wing extremism?

Right wing extremists are usually 'ethnocentric'...they want a nation of 'racially pure people' .Usually have a picture of Adolf Hitler and Himmler in their bedroom, with Mein Kampf and Foundations on the shelf.(As well as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion). Can be found longing for Nazi Germany to rise again, and may be conducting experiments to clone Adolf so he can rise again.

Left wing extremists usually aim to overthrow the 'elite' the 'Man' the moneyed rich, and create a workers and peasants republic, where everyone would be (hopefully)happy. Usually have pictures of Karl Marx, Stalin, Che Guevara, and Mao in their bedrooms, and read Das Kapital, and the Complete Works of Comrade Lenin on the shelf.(Bonus points for regarding Gorbachev as a traitor to the class cause).Oh and they are very very purist.And they deny that the Soviet Union was a communist country by the way.

mrbock:
Does that change anything?

We all should be held personally responsible for our actions

No it does not.

One of Obama's supporters was a terrorist back in 1970's america (a woman called Bernadette Dohrn).

Anyone can say they support leader X....MEANWHILE leader X does not know anything about them

Most white supremacists love trump though...largely because they regard him as a 'symbol of resistance' against the 'elite'.

adedehinbo:
did u read it in anywhere that he attacked any church?Christchurch is a street in new Zealand and he only only picked upon people outside and beside the mosque premises believing they are Muslims too

Christchurch is actually one of the larger cities in New Zealand.

Seems like the shooter is a self professed supporter of Trump...

From the Daily Mail

The Trump-supporting white supremacist who launched a massacre at a New Zealand mosque revealed that he hoped to spark a 'civil war in the U.S.' in his sick manifesto.

The gunman, who identified himself on Twitter as Brenton Tarrant from Grafton, New South Wales, Australia, livestreamed the mass shooting inside the Al Noor Mosque.

Tarrant posted a 74-page manifesto explaining the reasons behind the shooting, which is New Zealand's worst ever terrorist attack, leaving 49 dead and 48 injured.

In the document, Tarrant said that he supported President Donald Trump as a 'symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose' but not as a 'policy maker'.

The 28-year-old terrorist claimed he chose to use a gun over other weapons because it would spark a debate around the second amendment.

Too many people carry american matter for head.

StaffofOrayan:
A black African calling a white supremacist a domestic terrorist Hahaha that's a good joke.

Domestic or international....terrorist na terrorist.

Muyuba:
Nobody says Christian extremist, rather right wing extremist. Amorphous words meaning nothing. What is the faith of this person? What is the faith of people he killed. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. This is Christian extremist..

Right wing terrorists are different from Christian terrorists.

1.Right wing terrorists usually fight for a 'separate all white homeland' or 'to protect the white race from contamination'

2.Are neo-pagan (chiefly Odinists...see Norse religion, and I should add most practitioners of pagan European religon are not racists) or atheists, rarely Chirstian(Many of them hate christianity, it's a weak Jewish religion to them)_

3.Usually claim to love Adolf Hitler and Nazi ideology. Can quote Mein Kampf backwards and forward

4.Hate Jews, Muslims and blacks. Usually Jews.

hermesprogidy:
Those guys were exceptions. Not all white men who committed terrorist acts were tagged terrorists, compare that label to every Muslim guy who did same. You know these things na. FYI, am not Muslim.

Well...many 'muslims' appear to be committing terror attacks because most of the 'muslim' terrorists usually state their ideology as a reason for the attack. (the killers of Lee Rigby for example).

Many white killers are spree killers. Most of them...and no, I am not justifying what they do....commit crimes without any discernible ideology. That's why the Sandy Hook shooter and the Florida school shooter were not classified as terroists...while people like Brevik were terrioists.

And white terrorists have been around for a longer time than Muslim terroists. Back in the 1970's and 80's, most terrorist attacks were carried out by whites. IRA, ETA, any European separatist group, the Weathermen, etc. Muslims were very rare back then (organisations like the Palestinian Liberation organisation and PFLP were , and are still, secular).

Quality20:
Really, but we don't hear them attack jews or orthodox Christians. Except of course, if u it could be argued that Americas war around the world, esp d so-called war on terrorism has exposed muslims to attacks from these extremists

Actually they do attack jews and other christians

1.Last year, a white supremacist attacked a Jewish synagogue in the USA...several people died.

2.Also, another white supremacist attacked a black church a few years ago!

I could give you a list.

quatrevingtdix:
Its so funny the way the media s been biased..no offence but if he were to be a muslim the headline would have read"muslim terrorist ......" but been a possible christian and white headline read "whitw supremascist.....".....well anyways any act of terrorism should totally be condemned and i do so.

Most white supremacist terrorists are atheist or neo-pagan.

Mind there are Christian terrorists too by the way...but with what I have heard of the perps...they are most likely not Christians.

OkunrinOloro:
I am not talking about rape in general. I'm talking about rape as a means of religious persecution. In Islam the rape of non Muslim women is not only tolerated it is actually and actively encouraged.

More white men rape too...

So I guess he should have attacked whites


Please, I know Muslim extremists have committed crimes, but two wrongs don't make a right. Don't justify this attack..e.specially as the perpetrators who you admire are white supremacists who won't hesitiate to, and have also attacked blacks.

Buke26:
Note : The assailant/gun man is a Fellow Muslim o.
Get your facts

He isn't.

He has been reported as a white supremacist...infact he has previously posted 'the 14 words' (some sort of white supremacist moral code' ) online.

A muslim he ain't.

hermesprogidy:
White supremacists will never be declared terrorists, they are Whites!!! I expect this killer to be tagged a loner and mentally unstable.

White supremacists have always been tagged terrorists.

The reason why you don't hear about them much is because most of their terrorism is domestic (unlike Al Qaeda and Isis who are international in their orientation...if Al Qaeda for example attacked targets only in Saudi, it would be Saudi News, not international news).

These ones would be tagged terrorists. They follow the teachings of a certain white supremacist who got life for murder (he's now late)

Brevik and Roof were tagged terrorists. As was Mcveigh. All of them were white supremacists (Mcveigh was also anti-government).

Quality20:
militant Christianity is a reality .The man is a terrorist

Most white supremacists are either 'neo-pagans' or atheists. Very few are Christians, and even those follow heretical forms of Christianity

OkunrinOloro:
Perhaps because they have a habit of raping non muslim women wherever they go.

As do a lot of white men too, and men of every race and color.

And please don't justify this attack, because the white supremacists who carried it out also don't like blacks, asians and other non-whites. They won't hesitate to and have even attacked black people.

Dylan roof was of the same beleif as those who attacked the mosque. And Roof attacked a black church.

Typical white supremacist modus operandi.

These guys attacked the mosque because

1.They are muslim

2.They are brown in color...and as such a threat to pure white 'aryan' women.

makeitijn:
The word TERRORIST was particularly dedicated to the violent type of Islam.
However christain extremism have no known word ascribed to it.
It's called a crime or lone wolf attack

This is actually terrorism...white supremacist terrorism.

You hardly hear about it in the news largely because most white supremacist terror attacks are usually murder of a few people...and the police have to investigate further before they find out motive.

However, white supremacist terrorists do carry out mass attacks. Andreas Brevik...who has been refered to as a terrorist since day 1, is a good example of a white terrorist.

Most white terrorists are either neo-pagan, atheists or nominal Christians.

GraGra247:
FOOL!! When adherents to your violent religion serially bombed churches all over the world, you guys cheered with hidden joy but didn't see it coming that one day karma will visit with payback.

I will not be surprised if its still be your evil brothers doing the deeds as is the case in the North where they started bombing churches, you guys were cheering till they turned around to bomb your mosques.

Lesson: Karma and Nemesis is real.

No, it's 4 white supremacists. None of them are muslims.

A typical white supremacist is either atheist, Christian or neo-pagan.

blackgold90:
There is no state that can't pay minimum wage,since the allocation received monthly is always bigger than workers salaries.

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Yes the allocation is bigger than the salary wage..

But most states have to

1.Service debts

2.Build projects...because if you don't build something, your opponents would call you names.

3.Bills...power bills, water bills, fuel bills, etc....

4.Corruption.

Barely leaves enough for the salaries. (Salaries also chop most state budgets too)

Fadomero:
shut up and ask Google

First, thanks for your gracious answer.

Now, some facts from google

1.Nigeria's breakeven oil price, the price at which we need oil to be to have a budget without borrowing for all 160million of us is $140

2.Oil is at $60

3.Revenue is falling

4.Most states don't have the resources to pay, even if their governors weren't so corrupt, the new minimum wage. Many states have had to be bailed out in the last 3 years.

5.So, as you call Kwankwaso brainless, consider these facts. His state possibly does not have the resources to pay minimum wage. As do many other states.

6.So, that's the problem

(Good morning. Not every challenge is an insult. Don't be too prickly like Atelerix algirus)

Fadomero:
all this brainless Hausa men

Can your state afford minimum wage?

Is your governor planning to pay minimum wage?

Be honest now...

SjMbula:
i am kwankwoso's fan but leave oil out of this brother, what if tomorrow oil dries up?

For now, our budget and economy is oil dependent. Whether oil runs out or not tomorrow is irrelevant. And state governors have to make calculations based on oil prices.

Developing alternate sources is also going to take time.

On a more serious note...most states cannot afford minimum wage.

Kwankwaso may sound crass, but he is also being realistic. (Remember he used to be the governor of Kano state...so he knows something about the capabilities of the state re minimum wage).

Until oil goes above $100....many states won't be able to pay minimum wages.

SillyMods:
May PDP never find its way into our national governance. Amen.

Sai Buhari.

Atikulooted brains, how una body temperature?

Well, it was under a PDP government that Dangote refinery construction commenced.

Same PDP govt also helped guarantee the loans used for financing

Awol1:
Me, I'm just here wondering why refinery was sited in Kaduna; hundreds of kilometers away from raw materials for refining.

Who does that?

Well, it would be piped in from the source.

It would reduce the cost of transportation, instead of using trucks, just pipe the crude, and refine it up there

Plus one does not need to produce fuel to build a refinery

At least the couple is HAPPY

Anyway, Nigerian polticans

Win election: Nigerian democracy is PERFECT.
Lose election: It was rigged!

Biodun556:
"He was planning" that was what they use to get more soldiers in Africa.

Wut?

Anyway...have modified my reply to you

Hitler was just like Leopold.

And while all them imperialist powers were bad...Hitler ruling the world would have made things much worse.

Biodun556:
So what happened in Hirochima and Nagasaki was a good idea.

Have you read about King leopold 2 of Belgium?

Please take a look at Atlantic slave trade and see how nice the U K.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Either way, Hitler was planning stuff that would have made things more worse.

Modified

1.King Leopold was pure evil.

2.Hiroshima and Nagasaki were regrettable...however, the alternative was an invasion of Japan by American ground troops that, based on some experience, would have cost upwards of 800000 US casualties, and 5-10MILLION Japanese deaths.

3.Hitler's plans not only included the extermination of Jews, also eastern Europeans, and other races seen as undesirables. That included black people.

Again, the fact that King Leopold did it does not make it right that Hitler should do it. Besides, Hitler was no firend of blacks. He was just like King Leopold. If not worse.

By the way, King Leopold was condemmed by many people, and eventually was removed from directly running the Congo by his own government.

prince3009:
Isn't it surprising that Hitler's Holocaust was targeted mainly on Jews based on racial hatred but it turns out that the same Jews are very racist against blacks and IPOB and Biafran apologists ( who are blacks) look up to the Jews based on their mode of worship because of the star of David?

Before anyone comes to quote me and say rubbish...i am a full blooded Igbo man from Anambra State!

Don't be surprised...bigotry exists everywhere.

The fact that a group was oppressed does not mean that the same group cannot become oppressors.

That is why in the Old Testament of the bible, the nation of Israel is constantly reminded to be kind to strangers and even Egyptians in their midst because 'you were once oppressed/strangers in Egypt' A simple way of reminding an 'oppressed' group that just because you were oppressed, it does not mean you too cannot become an oppressor. Be careful.

Many Jews over the years have been involved in anti-racism fights , especially American Jews.

GideonVIBES:
I've always found people's reaction to issues such as this highly disturbing. I remember arguing with a friend back in school over a picture of Hirochima as at 1944, he insisted there was no way the skyscrappers in the pics were real.

What is the big deal about a bulletproof car as at 1941, Advanced aircrafts were already in use then, People already had steady power, nations already had space shuttles and finally, skyscrapppers were already old news, advanced naval destroyers already existed. Submarines nkọ, everywhere.

Space travel was not present in 1941. The Space shuttle was developed in the 1970's and the first flight was in 1981.

The Germans and British did develop jet fighters by the 1940's (the German one might have been of great use for them, if not for Hitler's meddling).

HOWEVER....the Germans developed the first intercontinental ballistic missiles the V1, V2 and the V3 which were used to attack the UK IN 1944/5. The designer of these missiles, Wernher Von Braun later designed the Saturn V rocket that took American astronauts to the moon between 1969-71.(He also had a working plan to get men to Planet Mars...sadly did not get off the drawing board)

The Space age began with the launch of the Soviet satellite Sputnik in 1957. Soviet cosmonaut Yuri Gargarian became the first man in space in 1961

simplyhonest:
there was a time I admired Hitler...

If you are a black man, you won't admire Hitler...same if you are a jew, a white guy from the eastern european countries, etc.

Better buy a biography of Hitler...Ian Kershaw's Hitler, and Richard Evans' Third Reich series are good non-fiction books to start with.