₦airaland Forum

hush15:
This INEC, I don't understand. 3 days now, we still can't move past this rubbish election.

Because of violence which is encouraged by politicians...who really want to be governor for the following reasons

1.Some states command budgets higher than some small African countries. Let that sink in...

2.Nigerians don't want a free and fair election...too risky. Your benefactor might get voted out. So...fight to maintain the status quo.

3.Electronic voting will solve all these issues....but Nigerians and their politicians will claim hacking.

Cybertext:
Not condemning the Enugu result, I hope you wouldn't shout rigging if it was the other way round in another state

You are right...but Enugu has always been PDP since 1999.

Samirana360:
Muslim/Muslim in a Muslim/Christian state...injustice n prejudice

How about SW states with Christian-Christian with Muslim populations....

It's not about religion...it is about performance.

sotall:
Congrats to PDP



How EFCC is watching Ganduje right now

Thanks a lot for that owl picture...

Gandollars better make sure his passport..dey in order....before May 29th....before Magu gets court order to cancel it....

StaffofOrayan:
""The cost per watt per solar installation (at this scale) will range based on several factors, such as available sunlight hours and location, but it's usually around $1/watt. Thus, a 1-megawatt solar farm would cost around $1 million to install""

Wasting millions of $ searching for oil or sharing abacha loot about when there is a power emergency. Imagine all the jobs that would be created, the number of manpower empowered,

As it is, Lagos town needs 15000mw....so at 1MW for 1million USD....that means you would spend $15,000,000,000 (15 billion IUSD) giving Lagos power.

And our foreign reserve is just 40bn. Abacha loot was under 4bn (and we have other needs mind).We have spent 300bn USD on the wild goose chase up North...that is just 340 watts using your calculation.

In other words...the money we need is FAR more than what Abacha loot and oil search loot will get us to.Like we need up to 15000 or more watts extra right now.

See the problem? and see why we need to allow DISCOS to charge higher...so that lots of investors will come in from abroad...and eventually prices come down and power improves?

We did the same for GSM. People paid N10000 for SIM cards at a time when service was poor. GSM guys took that money...and Nigerians back them were saying they were cheating us...and used the money to make services better.

Either we are realistic...or we just keep on suffering in silence.

PierreAbutu:
Abeg, is she married?

Do you want to marry her?

bixton:
One would want to assume you're one of those who is a share holder of any of the DISCOs.
Please can you inform us of any significant upgrades/improvements by the DISCOs since they were acquired?

We are all aware how the DISCOs were acquired and all the equipments that the government handed to them which were lying in the ports because NEPA a government agency could not clear the taxes on those imported e quipments.

This issue of DISCOs and GENCOs is another political play by those in the power industry.
Since NEPA was scrapped, we stopped hearing low water level in the dams, no supply of gas, etc, etc,. yet no reasonable power for consumers to use in their respective areas.

When they say about 1/3 of consumers pay, are they referring to those who are billed exhorbitantly for what they don't consume because of that old pattern of pre-determined billing system or in areas where a fixed amount is stipulated ?

DISCOS cannot make any improvements because they aren't earning enough cash.

OK...let me have someone explain it...

The price of gas is a pass-through cost from the gas suppliers to the generators who in turn pass the cost to the distribution companies on a monthly basis. The distribution companies are, however, unable to pass this cost to end users for two reasons. The first being that due to the low state of generation, customers are not willing to pay higher tariffs which should ideally reflect any increase in gas prices. Secondly, whilst the generators by virtue of their respective Power Purchase Agreements with NBET, pass through gas costs on a monthly basis following purchase, the tariffs for distribution companies regulated by the National Electricity Regulatory Commission and as such cannot automatically pass on this cost to consumers. This creates a huge shortfall for the distribution companies which accrue interest and a resultant inability to meet their payment obligations to other stakeholders in the power value chain. The second factor affecting gas availability for power generation is the recurrent vandalisation of the gas pipelines. Any shortfall in the supply of gas will affect the amount of power that can be produced which will in turn affect the stability of the grid and may occasion grid collapses.(Sauce)

You see the problem.?

P.S...I have no link, nor do I work for any DISCO. I even had cause to have a dispute with them over metering of my former residence. I am a bill payer. I also read a lot.

StaffofOrayan:
Hahaha
With clowns like you why does the govt need to work?
Your point is that if an impoverished population pay more for power, power plants would suddenly spring up? A country where traders are loaned N10,000? There are no jobs, govt have to help parents feed their children in schools!!!
It's 4 years and there hasn't been noticeable improvements in electricity.
We can both bet N5m that after 4 years electricity won't greatly improve and you would continue blaming the citizens.
I saw you talking about South Africa now chew this quote and see how much you have internalized the failures of government.

""The domestic worker sector's wage in South Africa is set on 75% of the new national wage of R20 per hour, and so the new minimums will be R2, 625 per month or R15 per hour. However the minimum wage is the very bare minimum. It only covers the employer legally because you are within the law""

PS: R2,625 is N66,369.

All right...lets then face the reality of low power.

Oil is at $60 and below. We need it at $140 to earn enough. Since we are not earning enough, and since you don't want to pay for power because we are poor ...then let's manage with the limited power we have.

You cannot get something for nothing.

Good morning...and next time, don't insult people with whom you disagree. You could have made your point without calling me a clown. You are not a child anymore. Don't use childish language.

gratiaeo:
Please how is discos charging blow the cost of production.

I'll be brief..

DISCOS cannot accept all the power GENCOS sell because DISCOS cannot afford to buy the power GENCOS sell.

GENCOS too struggle to pay for gas they get for their gas powered plants.

DISCOS have their prices set for them by government...

Then government owes then N1trillion (Guardian on Sunday report) plus 1/3 rd of subscribers pay for power (BBC report )

And the truth is, we need billions of dollars to fix infrastructure, etc. The money is not going to come from the sky.

(And yes, I hate making this argument. But sadly...reality is a harsh mistress)

Modified...

Nigerians heaved a sigh or relief when PHCN was unbundled and many thought that Nigerians would eventually do away with candles. Contrary to these expectations, electricity supply appears to have gone from bad to worse. As the core investor in Eko DISCO, what seems to be the intractable problem with power supply in Nigeria? Lately, electricity supply has dwindled to an all time low, not only in Lagos but all over the country. What is responsible for this and what are the Discos doing to rectify the problem?


The unbundling of PHCN and subsequent divestment was a timely and pragmatic policy decision by the Federal Government to attract private sector capital and expertise in order to improve access to electricity, availability of electricity and overall quality of service. However, the transition towards reliability and viability of the power sector has been fraught with challenges that are not insurmountable but requires significant funding and systematic operational improvements that can only be achieved over a significant period of time. It is important to stress the huge capital outlay and timing requirements to resolve the notoriously common issues of increasing generation capacity, diversifying our energy mix, strengthening and expanding transmission network infrastructure to evacuate available power, distribution network reinforcements and extension, metering, customer enumeration, tackling electricity theft etc. The lists may seem extensive but the reality is that a prioritised, sequenced and synchronised implementation of all the identified solutions to these issues with all the sector players working off an integrated action plan will yield the desired results.

The drop in power generation in recent times is attributed to several interdependent factors. The power sector in Nigeria relies heavily on two primary feedstock for power generation. It is water in the case of Hydro Plants and Gas in the case of thermal plants. The thermal plants provide about three-quarters of the energy generated. Therefore, this near sole dependence on Gas invariably means that when there is any form of supply disruption, the ripple effect is a dip in power supply. These supply disruptions can be due to payment/liquidity challenges within the sector or pipeline vandalism. Due to the aforementioned liquidity challenges, generation companies find it difficult to pay for gas supplied to them. This is occasioned by the fact that the Discos are unable to pay the bulk trader (NBET) due to the non-existence of cost reflective tariffs and as such, the bulk trader who purchases power from the Gencos to sell to the Discos is unable to, in turn, remit payments to the Gencos.

[b]The price of gas is a pass-through cost from the gas suppliers to the generators who in turn pass the cost to the distribution companies on a monthly basis. The distribution companies are, however, unable to pass this cost to end users for two reasons. The first being that due to the low state of generation, customers are not willing to pay higher tariffs which should ideally reflect any increase in gas prices. Secondly, whilst the generators by virtue of their respective Power Purchase Agreements with NBET, pass through gas costs on a monthly basis following purchase, the tariffs for distribution companies regulated by the National Electricity Regulatory Commission and as such cannot automatically pass on this cost to consumers. This creates a huge shortfall for the distribution companies which accrue interest and a resultant inability to meet their payment obligations to other stakeholders in the power value chain. The second factor affecting gas availability for power generation is the recurrent vandalisation of the gas pipelines. Any shortfall in the supply of gas will affect the amount of power that can be produced which will in turn affect the stability of the grid and may occasion grid collapses[/b]

Rectification of the problem goes beyond the distribution level. The Disco on their part have been exploring other power procurement options, such as, embedded generation to supplement grid power.

Sauce :http://geplaw.com/power-sector-interview-with-mr-george-etomi-and-thisday/

Johnnyessence:
excuse me here, kaduna State is 50% Muslims and 50% Christians. can you please give me the percentage of the Muslims in all the south east and south south state . tell me I want to know.

We don't know the actual percentage of Chrsitians or Muslims in any state in Nigeria...because we dont have accurate census figures.

Till then, your argument has no locus standi.

I don't care about the religion....I care about performance. And I speak as someone who actually saw and witnessed mob action by bigoted Muslims in Kaduna state over the years..(I don't live there anymore)...and who thinks El Rufai needs to be more inclusive. But let's not shout about Muslim Muslim and keep quiet about Christian-christian.

Timi1990:
People who don’t pay for power ain’t the problem; if you no buy recharge card for phone how you wan call . A friend of mine went for a training in Southafrica and decided to enter Burundi for the weekend ; this small country have 24hrs power supply and they use almost the same type of prepaid meter we use in Naija . So once you exhaust your credit you just go to any store and buy the card , activate it and slot it in your meter . So the Govt needs to do more for our economy to grow and develop

1.Most Nigerians don't pay for power. Am sure Burundi has power because MOST people pay for power...and their government does not owe money

2.Plus there are large parts of that country that don't have access to power too.

3.Tell me, where are we going to get the money from? Another loan won't help matters.

eluquenson:
It's a PPP scheme but generation lies in the government hand. Get me fact before I believe what I striked. Nigerian government is the greatest hypocrites in the world.

Generation is in private hands..the GENCOS. Distribution is also in private hands...DISCOS.

It is transmission that is in government hands via the TCN

Timi1990:
The whole prob is still from the selfish Govt

Look, governments past and present have not done well...but me, I have stopped blaming government solely since 2014....when people like GEJ's minister of power started explain things.

The truth is, until DISCOS are allowed to set prices for what they sell..and are no longer forced to sell at a loss....we are not going to fix power. Yes, Government is making a mistake...but it isnt the way you think.

And until those of our countrymen and women too who don't pay for power start paying as well...and government pays its debts....power is not going to do well.

Its a harsh truth.

izuch:
1. 34 naira per of unit electricity is actually on the high side compared to other developed countries. the DISCOS charge more than enough
2.how can we engage in large commercial farming when the demand for Nigerian made cotton is low, hence the ban to increase domestic demand and production consequently just like the example I gave with rice above.
3. "Forcing them to sell below cost of production"
They sell below cost of production and they are still importing on a daily basis Bros we no be mumu, who does that kind of business, selling below production rate? Where did you get such information?
4. You call a country that produces 76% of what it consumes domestically a failed state?
You sure say you well?

1.Ghana pays much higher than we do.
2.We have no choice....we can't stay on oil forever...
3.Yes, we cannot develop more refineries because government is forcing marketers to sell below the production costs..which means anyone developing a refinery is going to be selling refined product at a loss. Let's be honest...subsidy means that people cannot make profits. The US is the leading oil producer...and it sells fuel above 300 naira (yes, many NIGERIANS say we should sell fuel at a low price because we are an oil prodcing nation).

Plus we are not earning enough from oil to keep subsides.

4.North Korea is a failed state with an oppressed population,and hereditary rule, and a budget that is less than what South Korea spends on defense yearly. South Korea is a better example.,,they produce enough for domestic consumption and export far more.

Johnnyessence:
Muslim -Muslim ticket, I don't subscribe to that. elrufai is a religious fanatic. pdp will surely challenge the election in the court of competent jurisprudence. tribunal loading in kaduna state .

And when it was Christian-christian in many SW states with Muslim populations...why didn't you complain.?

Timi1990:
If DISCOS is charging 50k or 100k per month for electricity bill everywhere in Nigeria and the power supply is available 24hrs daily ; Nigerians will surely pay . It’s just like our Telecommunication providers , na the amount of recharge card wey you buy Nah ehn you go use . So no excuse from FG at all

DISCOS charge far less than that...which is why things are not better.

The FG forces them to charge that low because if they completely deregulated...power bills would shoot up...and politicians will lose their jobs.

eddiebruk:
There’s nothing like high power bill if my electricity consumption is being read by a prepaid meter which is the duty of the Electricity companies to provide. I bought a meter for #75,000 when they first came out, and I use #12,000 monthly for electricity coupled with my inverter and generators. They still charge me up to #3000 for maintenance, what for...?

Because DISCOS only have 1/3RD OF their active subscribers paying...they put more pressure on those of us who actually pay.

eddiebruk:
With regards to power, I think there are stakeholders who do not want Nigeria Electricity Problems to be resolved because of their benefits.

First off, Take South Africa for example, the power sector which is Eskom is being owed 19 Billion rands by Soweto (a big city mostly occupied by low income earners) alone, the government only intervened to bail Eskom out because of the caliber of people living there.

Mind you, they generate well over 45,000 megawatts of electricity for a country that is below 80 million in population.

South Africa has been having rolling blackouts...and that is due to the money issues plaguing ESKOM.

Plus, they have bailed out SOWETO. Does that solve the real problem, that people are not paying for power? How long is the government going to keep on bailing out Soweto.? Keep in mind that it isn't just Soweto....

ESKOM is in financial trouble.

Nigeria is still struggling with %10 of what they generate but will not allow full private or even states to invest and even own electricity licenses, they give them to their cronies and bail them out with Government funds, they do not care wether they are bailing those in Abuja or those in Ajegunle, they generalize it. How can a government bail out a man who has more than the Government, who then will be responsible for those who cannot afford Generators when the DISCOS decide to shut down their operations?

Investors cannot come because DISCOS are being forced by the same law establishing them to charge for power at a lower price than the generation cost. No investor is going to come and invest in power when he or she cannot make a profit.

Plus all the bailouts are because the DISCOS are finding it difficult to operate. They cannot get loans from the bank because only one third of their subscriber base pay for power on a regular basis ..and government owes then money too (N1trillion in bills)(unlike GSM companies who have 100% compliance because you cannot use a phone without paying..AND WHO got loans easily from banks because they could afford the money to pay).

Infact, one DISCO declared force maejure...and handed back the company to government (who is now looking for buyer).

Either the government allows DISCOS to set prices, enforces meters at the same time for all, and ends estimated billing...or we are going to continue to get poor supply.

eluquenson:
What FG need do is improve power supply, if CBN like let them ban everything. Provided the powered sector is still not improving, the measures will spike inflation in double folds

Buhari is a true definition of a dullard.

Power is in private hands. Both at distribution and generation level.

The only way Buhari can improve power supply is by, well, repealing that bit in the power privatization law that forces DISCOS to charge for power at a cost below production. This is what is driving away more investors.

But since that means high power bills...most Nigerians would say no.And politicians love their jobs more than they love development.

Nigerians and their government too have to pay the debts they owe the DISCOS. (You can't do much in a business where only one third of your customers are actually paying for the stuff)

CodeTemplar:
The man is in a hurry to develop his beloved north and that can blind any bigoted soul. OBJ did more and failed. In every industry there are key logistics that can't be circumvented with dictator like tendencies and I expect Buhari to know better.

Well,if the cotton industry in the North is developed...that reduced dependence on oil money...which naturally would flow to the South

It would be like the good old days of the 1960's when each region relied on what it produced. Plus...it generates more jobs (a good chunk of which would be taken by Southerners anyway)

izuch:
This Is the kind of policy we need to grow our economy, everything will gradually fall into place, power supply will increase ( necessity is the mother of invention), domestic Cotton production will increase since the demand will increase. Job opportunities in cotton farming and textile industry will also increase, more revenue for the FG from taxes, Let us learn from other more successful countries like north Korea. Let us be optimistic and hope that this policy will do us good in the long run. I look forward to the day Nigeria will stop importing PMS and other allied products. Nigeria will be great again.
LONG LIVE THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA!!!!

1.Power supply won't increase so long as DISCOS are forced to charge below production costs of power.

2.The only way we can increase production of cotton is by large scale commercial farming.

3.Imports of PMS will stop when government stops forcing subsides on petrol marketers...forcing them to sell below the cost of production and importation....which drives off investors.

4.North Korea is a failed state. South Korea is a much better example to emulate.

eddiebruk:
How you want to grow a whole textile industry without power baffles me. Government needs to stop thinking they will always be funded enough to intervene in sectors that should be private investment driven. How long can the CBN sustain Nigeria Forex with global unforeseen circumstances? In Nigeria, we only think of today without calculating the probability of the future risks. China may decide to pull out and we will be left with a dwindling economy

At the same time Nigeria is shortchanging the power industry.

1.DISCOS are being forced by law to charge for power below the cost of production. That is why DISCOS cannot accept all the power GENCOS send...they can't afford it.

2.DISCOS are owed N1trillion by government agencies, and also are owed same amount by consumers. And as a recent BBC programme put it, about 1/3rd of consumers pay for power.

3.Fixing power requires billions of dollars...and since Nigerians and their government are not paying up...how do we fix power?

RALPHOW:
I think the guy either lack wisdom, knowledge of his job or wicked ( benefiting from the hardship)
Nsira was N150 /$ when he became the CBN governor under his watch and program its nowN360/$.

When he became CBN governor....we were selling oil for over 100 us dollars...and sice then it has fallen to as low as 29 USD and is now below 60 usd

Naturally, our forex earnings have fallen....so the value of the naira falls since the amount of dollars available to buffer the naira has fallen

Will be bold enough to use the VW Kombi.

donprinyo:
E-voting is the solution

It is, until you start hearing Nigerians claiming the machine was hacked

This is what happens when the pastor is treated like a super hero.

He and his congregation actually end up believing that he really is a super hero.

As a result, accountability goes out of the window. Sin comes dancing in, and the fall becomes heavy.

The Nigerian church has a problem, and it isn't Buhari or Fulani or Muslim. There is fire on the mountain. Time to repenf

Toks2008:
Ignorant people everywhere.

Good evening to you too.

Toks2008:
I hate blabbing.

Polygamy is not a sin. Period.

The bible is clear. One man, one wife. It is fair to all.

If you want to be polygamous...that's ok. But if you are a part of a religion that has not approved of polygamy....then why be practicing it?

Ah well....good e'en.

Toks2008:
So because he married another lady he has become a false prophet..SMH!

No, because he broke his vows to his wife. He broke the promise he made before God and man to 'have and to hold, etc'.

Look...I don't know what you are insuinating. But....what the man did was wrong.

I know of a guy. a Christian , who left his wife and went and married another woman. Not only was his wife hurt...but his children too were hurt.

Keep in mind. God sets rules for us because he knows we are weak, and we need His rules to be strong.

Would you leave your wife...and sleep with another woman? Be honest. Would you tell your children that you want to leave their mother for another woman? What if that other woman too isn't to your liking? Would you leave her too?

Is faithfulness something that you don't like.? Because all I see is that you don't want to be a faithful person?

Toks2008:
Left to where and for what?

It is this ignorance in christiandom about people misinterpreting the scriptures preaching one man one woman and Satan is leveraging on it big time to destroy churches.

He could have gone to another religion or started his own religion, or whatever.

You don't have to be a Christian by force.

And for me as a Christian, Jesus is clear. A man leaves his parents, cleaves unto his wife. It did not say wives.

Yes, I am aware of polygamy in the bible...and all the polygamous marriages recorded in the bible had issues.

Besides....in addition to what Jesus said..generations of Christian doctrine have favored monogamy

If you can't do it...you ask God for help...or you leave and do your own thing. Life will go on. No one die.

Toks2008:
Many ignorant people in the world today.

All these one man one woman madness is what is destroying families and marriages.

Polygamy or polyandry won't change much...people will still cheat.

Thing is, once people learn they can't have everything they want...self control becomes a bit easier.

Plus, the guy is in a religion which prescribes monogamy. If he can't stick to monogamy, like many of his co-coreligionists...why pretend? He should have left ages ago. Nothing would have been stopping him

Of course...nothing would happen, pastor will keep his church...and his family would be broken.

And when Nigerian Christianity keeps on suffering....and we ask God why...God will tell us...Because you have sinned.

Time for repentance. We have sinned...and God will soon deal with us...if only to make us repent.