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MayorofLagos tun gbe tuntun de o

Oya me too I have a grievance against GMB

He accused my great grandfather of misappropriating some cowrie shells in 1927

Okupe the ba.......d, oya do another documentary

Can't stop laughing at the man with an acute case of verbal diarrhoea. He's been fed his own medicine by his former owners. What goes around comes around

BokoHaramm:
I got a shocker this morning when my phone rang and the caller called out my full name and said he is calling from APC office that, have I collected my PVC? I said no, then he directed me to the local govt sectariate to collect it there. He also said I should cast my vote for GMB, I thanked him but I was furious for the underlisted reasons:
1. Why should APC have my personal information when I'm not a member of their party?

2. Is it right for INEC to surrender my information to APC in lagos state because I read jega interview that's on FP.

3. Is it legal or there is a breach in the electoral Act?

4. This is the number 07080606500

5. We are not safe again because when political parties have our datas then we might be victims of political fraud or violence because Rwanda readily comes to mind

Trailblazer1:
So APC now have the exclusive right to my private information.
So any lagos state government form filled automatically tantamounts to APC membership.

APC is fraud!

Pls read this

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/2015-inec-releases-register-of-eligible-voters-candidates/199155/

From the news report

……Addressing newsmen in Abuja yesterday evening, Chairman of INEC, Prof. Attahiru Jega, said 68,833,476 eligible registered voters are expected to vote. [size=16pt]He also said that the commission would be giving the hard copies of the registered voters to the political parties as from today[/size].....

Its not APC's fault......they're just more interested than PDP

here's a link to the document eGuerrilla and honeric01 referenced earlier

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=rJL9mm8EgGEC&lpg=PA3&ots=mXkMROms9e&dq=Sasnett%2C%20M.%20T.

when it opens, just click on federation of Nigeria which starts on page 462

HzRF:
If u go through d journal when waec was formed
The curriculum got refurbished ,it was about creating subjects that truly is in adherence with the pole

It can be reduced
Nw a days not all science students need maths in jamb

Well, the paper eguerilla posted proves it was a waec subject.

until somebody can post all subjects waec offered in 1961 showing hausa wasn't included, i don't think anyone has a right to call buhari a liar for having hausa in his result

HzRF:
I will disagree with u
Selected as used in the journal has diff meaning

1 is how u used it,the number of subjects available/vyed for is another meaning

This journal is about the trend of education as far as 18th century before pulling this out if u go tru d journal no Nigerian language was mentioned before transition occurred

If no Nigerian language was mentioned before evolution into what happened in 1961

I don't see why such a well detailed journal should hide a new subject and include new ones

'13 SELECTED SUBJECTS' means the authors selected 13 subjects for the purpose of their paper and the paragraph preceding indicated they were more concerned with subjects that had more patronage. I want to hazard a guess that Yoruba had more patronage than Igbo and Hausa then hence it's listing.

Also, there were 31 subjects listed for 1925-1950. Are you saying WAEC reduced it's subjects on offer to 13 by 1961?

Like i asked earlier, do you think fine arts wasn't a subject then? what about technical drawing? Agric science? additional mathematics? if they were, why were they not included?

BackDatAssUp:
The term selected is because not all candidates participated for every subject other than English which is compulsory.

Look at the break down for English and you will see that the total percentage of students that sat for English was 100%.

Would the records take a selective view for some subjects but still include English which recorded 100%?

I believe the term "selected"here states candidate choice.

Do you think Agricultural science wasn't a subject until after 1975?

What about Government? Fine arts? technical drawing? You think these were not WAEC subjects until after 1975?

The particular paragraph preceding the list which i quoted was concerned with the most popular subjects among Nigerian students hence the percentage enrollment. The authors knew what they wished to achieve and the 13 subjects they listed sufficed for that purpose

BackDatAssUp:
The article details the evolution of the Nigerian educational curriculum from colonial times to present day.

Twist it as you like it doesn't change the fact that in the entire country in the period 1961 till 1974 only Yoruba was offered in WASC!

My friend, 'maybe' you'll eventually be 'right' on your suspicion but that PDF document doesn't support your claims here.

see the paragraph preceding that list you posted

During the year immediately following independence, the W. A. E. C. undertook a gradual revision of the School Certificate Syllabuses, especially in History, Mathematics, French, English Language and Literature (now Literature in English), Physics, Chemistry and Biology (W. A. J. E.VII/2 1964). It also increased the number of its examinable subjects. Secondary Schools in the country accordingly revised their own curricula. This gradually led to a swing of candidates from the traditional subjects to the new ones, and also to such science subjects as Physics, Chemistry and Biology, presumably because there are now better qualified teachers of this subject and better equipment for teaching them. Table 3 shows the direction of enrolment of Nigerian candidates in [size=18pt]13 selected subjects,[/size] for 1961 and 1974.

they focused on only 13 selected subjects for the purpose of their research. It didn't mean Nigerian students only offered those 13 subjects at WAEC level then.

Like i said earlier, you might be right eventually but this paper doesn't support your insinuations at all

Remarkable:
I disagree with you, kind sir/madam.

The purpose of a certificate is to show that you have been educated up to (the knowledge of) SS3.

How do we know whether Buhar spent 6 years there and failed his JSS1 exams each time?

As ridiculous as that sounds, the absence of a certificate opens the door for all sorts of assumptions, including the most ridiculous ones.

The principal could have seen that this man has no academic abilities, and on that basis, also upon notice of his stature and strength, sports and other school activities, be willing to recommend him to the army.

This is why a certificate is needed. if Buhari does not have one, let him come clean.

I hope you see my points.

I see your points my friend but the law doesn't look at points. It looks at provisions of the law and the law has other things it equates to school cert equivalent. See section 318 for them

You and I can argue from now till tomorrow but until the courts stop him, I'm afraid PDP efforts will be a futile exercise.

ILIDEFI:
So bros, what if the principal was a family friend, and simply drafted a letter for him to be enrolled into the army? Is the recommendation letter an adequate proof that he actually attended that school? A certificate nails it, cos u can't obtain WASC if you didn't sit for the examination, and you can't sit for the exam if you didn't have. secondary education.
By the way, the constitution mentions school certificate and not secondary education.

And you've not heard about a forged school certificate before?

My brother, the constitution has plenty lacunae. Check section 318 to see what school cert equivalent means according to the constitution

NairalandOP:
They haven't gone to court because the courts are on strike. Aside PDP, many NGOs and constitutional lawyers are also on the line waiting for the strike to be called off. Buhari is going to be totally humiliated. That's the beauty of Democracy .

Good. That's the way to go about it. If he loses at the courts, fine

manutdadex:
well for ur info he is nt goin back into d army again..he wants to rule at least 50 million educated people wit atleast a university certificate, nt to talk of peeps like him witout waec...and we are demandin(as our law) to provide his secondary skool cert nt a letter..i can rite a recomendation letter for u now wit d letter headin of d President of United state of america.

My friend, no matter how strongly you feel about this issue, there's nothing you or PDP can do about it.why do you think PDP hasn't gone to court yet?? They know what you don't know which is that the case is DOA.

Section 131(d) of the constitution didn't ask for a certificate no matter how emotional you feel about it. It simply asks a candidate to have education of school cert level and the recommendation from his principal would have confirmed that and Section 318 explains what school cert equivalent means. Try and get a copy of the constitution to know.

Like I said, there's a reason why PDP hadn't sought the court option

manutdadex:
so wat u are sayin now is..if i leave skool now as a 200l student..i can use a letter frm my V.C to get a Job in shell! ope o...Naija don beta

The issue is with the military board. If they feel the man satisfied their entry requirements, there's nothing anybody can do about it.

If PDP feels hard done by, they know where the court is

Lalastical, I see u viewing.....

Pls do the needful.

Thanks

Modified: FP acknowledged. mods, Tx

I guess the backlash is getting to them.

They've been told how damaging the advert could be to PDP campaign in the north.

Northerners rever their leaders

Demdem:

I even want them to do something. I want them to proceed to the law court now. Is it when Buhari wins the election that they will contemplate doing that?
Of what essence is this certificate self? What has the drunkard Phd degree done for us?

they know they can't win in court so they're trying to appeal to moral sentiments.

it's a lacunae in the law and it's not Buhari's fault. Jonathan himself is a beneficiary of a lacunae in our constitution

Just heard it on CHANNELS 4PM Newstrack

And this

………Reacting to the advertisement on Tuesday, the Director of Media and Publicity of the PDP presidential campaign organisation, Chief Femi Fani-Kayode, said the views expressed in the publication were personal to Fayose.

According to him, the message in the said advertorial did not in any way reflect the views of the PDP presidential campaign organisation, adding that questions regarding the advertisement should be directed to the Ekiti State Governor.......

http://elotitv.com/entry/count-us-out-of-fayose-s-death-wish-advert-pdp

Count us out of Fayose’s death-wish advert – PDP


The Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) presidential campaign organisation has distanced itself from the controversial death-wish advertorial authored by the Ekiti State Governor, Ayo Fayose.

In the said advertisement, published in two national newspapers, Fayose had listed a former military head of state, the late Gen. Murtala Mohammed who was assassinated in the failed military coup of February 13, 1976. Murtala hailed from Kano State.

He also listed the former military dictator, the late Gen. Sani Abacha who died in office on June 8, 1998.

Abacha also hailed from Kano. Fayose had followed it up with the late President Umaru Yar A’dua, who similarly died in office on May 9, 2010, two years after he was elected.

The Ekiti governor then warned Nigerians against voting for the presidential candidate of the All Progressives Congress (APC), Gen. Muhammadu Buhari, predicting that if elected, Buhari too would die in office.

Reacting to the advertisement on Tuesday, the Director of Media and Publicity of the PDP presidential campaign organisation, Chief Femi Fani-Kayode, said the views expressed in the publication were personal to Fayose.

According to him, the message in the said advertorial did not in any way reflect the views of the PDP presidential campaign organisation, adding that questions regarding the advertisement should be directed to the Ekiti State Governor.

Fani-Kayode said: “Governor Ayo Fayose is a distinguished leader of our party. A democratically elected governor and someone we have immense respect and affection for, but he released this advert in his own name.

“That represents his own personal opinion which he is entitled to. What I can tell you on our part as the presidential campaign organisation is that does not represent the opinion of the campaign organisation or indeed that of the President.

“It is his opinion which he is entitled to and he is somebody that we have immense respect for, he is a leading member of the party. I have spoken with him and we respect him, but for anybody to suggest that this is the position of the presidential campaign organisation or President Goodluck Jonathan that will be most unfair.

“If we wanted to say something like that we will say it without any kind of apology but of course we will never say that because we believe in the sanctity of life. Age is not a function of how long you will live. It is important that we recognize the fact that age is not an indication of how long somebody will live.

“We believe strongly that we must continue to show immense respect for the person of Gen. Buhari in terms of his person and his health, though we believe it is important to always raise questions about facts, you know what these questions are and we will continue to raise them.”

Demdem:

This makes sense to me.
Mine is what does the law say and what has the General done? Surely the General can contest.
If u have doubts, Inec have asked u to go to court.

if the army board judged it acceptable in 1961, theres nothing any baga can do about it. the beauty of it like prof Sagay pointed out is that GMB has even gone ahead to higher levels of education.

There's nothing PDP can do with this issue beyond whipping up sentiments. the law has nothing on GMB with respect to this issue

Trailblazer1:
You must have attended a night school

Or perhaps you were buhari's classmate.

Seriously, your certificate should be revoked if you have any

and you obviously have never been to any school whether night or day

can't you say your own bit and leave me to say mine?

Section 131(d) on educational qualification says

He has been educated up to at least school certificate level or its equivalent.

The army says

It said at a press conference in Abuja on Tuesday that it had a letter from the Principal of Buhari’s secondary school, dated 1961, recommending him for enlistment into the military school.

There is a lacunae in this law and that is that the constitution doesn't expressly demand a certificate

The constitution didn't ask for a certificate. It only requires that a candidate has secondary school education which a certificate might help to prove but a recommendation from the principal of the school in 1961 will also prove the same thing which is that the student attended the secondary school and received education that qualifies him for a school certificate even if he didn't write the final exam.

Note:a certificate having F9 or A1 throughout will prove the same thing which is:the student had school cert level education.

That is what the constitution stipulated. A secondary school education and a letter of recommendation from a school principal proves it.

This is my own take on it and I trust I'm entitled to my own opinion. If you disagree, lay out your own points.

Hmmmmm.....

Section 131(d) on educational qualification says

He has been educated up to at least school certificate level or its equivalent.

The army says

It said at a press conference in Abuja on Tuesday that it had a letter from the Principal of Buhari’s secondary school, dated 1961, recommending him for enlistment into the military school.

There is a lacunae in this law and that is that the constitution doesn't expressly demand a certificate

The constitution didn't ask for a certificate. It only requires that a candidate has secondary school education which a certificate might help to prove but a recommendation from the principal of the school in 1961 will also prove the same thing which is that the student attended the secondary school and received education that qualifies him for a school certificate even if he didn't write the final exam.

Note:a certificate having F9 or A1 throughout will prove the same thing which is:the student had school cert level education.

That is what the constitution stipulated. A secondary school education and a letter of recommendation from a school principal proves it.

This is my own take on it and I trust I'm entitled to my own opinion. If you disagree, lay out your own points.

BlackTechnology:
Out of 14million voters in the SW in 2011, only 4million voters voted.

So you see that you guys ethnic sentiments still played out


If you go through my numerous posts you will recognized I use the term Far North or Hausa Fulani Kanuri

the important fact is that jonathan got 70% even though buhari fielded a yoruba pastor.

since you acknowledge that the north isn't monolithic, pls try and educate others against the blanket hatred.

tell them IBB isn't hausa/fulani/kanuri, Gowon isn't hausa/fulani/kanuri

BlackTechnology:
Nigeria FG politics is all about ethno religious sentiments.

That's why SW voted for OBJ in 2003 against GMB and today are shouting Sai Buhari because of the promise of taking over power in the event of Buhari's capitulation either by death or weakness

]b]Unknown to most APC fans, the North is full of hundreds of small ethnic groups who are anti Hausa Fulani and Kanuri arrogant Born To Rule attitude[/b].

So why did the SW vote a GEJ/Sambo ticket in 2007 instead of a ticket that had a Yoruba as VP?

If the average PDP fan knew all along that there are other ethnic groups in the north, why the blanket hatred for the north? Why include an IBB 8 year rule as Hausa/Fulani rule?(IBB isn't Hausa/Fulani), why add a Gowon 9 year rule as hausa/Fulani born to rule evidence?(Gowon isn't Hausa/Fulani)

Descartes:
Why are you trying to be mischievous?

are you trying to pretend you've NEVER seen a thread or read any post rejoicing at the bomb blasts in the north?

Donmarrius:
[s][/s] And Buhari who said the fight against Boko Haram terrorist group that has wiped many Nigerians out,is "a fight against the north",is a patriotic Nigerian?

and how does that translate to 'making nigeria ungovernable' as you falsely and fraudulently tried to attribute to him?

and have innocent nigerians not being killed by nigerian forces in this fight? even if we can loosely term it as collateral damage?

If you guys knew all along that some people in even sokoto and kebbi support Jonathan, then why the blanket hatred and condemnation for the north? Why the rejoicing whenever the north experiences boko haram attack? Forgetting that even southerners who get their daily bread there are also victims a lot of times?

Donmarrius:
[s][/s]
And those that promises to make Jonathans administration ungovernable,are patriotic Nigerians.shm .

Ironically, the man who made that threat is a Jonathan supporter today who will not have anything to do with GMB because he jailed him.

His name is Alhaji Lawal Kaita

BlackTechnology:
So you expect GEJ to campaign freely in the far North after some Hausa Fulani boys burnt some buses in order to make good their threat


Hypocrites

In the South, no one threatened Buhari's campaign train but in the far North, threat to lives and properties against GEJ fans have become the order of the day


We are laughing at this hypocrisy by GMB

Why should it be difficult to campaign if Jonathan has a support group that can mobilise 20million youths for him?

Or is it another bogus lie to make PDP feel at ease temporarily?

Are these part of the 20million youths mobilized for gej in the north?

https://www.nairaland.com/2102043/2015-northern-youths-vow-mobilise

Why are people deceiving jona like this?

Ruffdude:
"The Devil you know is BETTER than the Angel you don't know"

I concur...

Don't promote buhari. He's a devil too like gej.

But after spending 5years plus with the devil called gej, I believe its time to try another devil

Donmarrius:
should it happen,we will seat and watch north unleash Boko Haram on Southwest.They don't know what they are doing.Firs fool no be fool,na second one na'em be fool.Imagine Obj and Tinubu working together?

Really??

Boko haram......oya o. Start the journey abeg

arewafederation:
Another crook trying to deceive Jonathan....





















[size=56pt] Sai Buhari [/size]

Jonathanians and samboriborians are sure of these area youths endorsement o. Pls don't kill their joy abeg