Theydontcare:
With all the chest beating and quest to dominate one another, they are actually not indigenous people of Africa. The Bantus are more indigenous than all theses tribes. Why fighting. Let these tribes combine their effort and rewrite their history as a people. Consolidate and grow from there.

no, we are all imaginary people in your mind, and you are experiencing schizophrenia.

interesting find. thanks for sharing.

if you don't have anything useful to contribute, why waste minutes of your life?

I want to know what kind of content people wish they knew about their culture. I am just curious.

LuciferKristi:
I just want to understand the Afonja correlation between human skulls and money.

Hi. Just curious. Can you elaborate? Are you talking metaphorically about Phrenology v money? Or cephalometry v money?

I am Glad Kenya and Ghana are progressing. It's good news. Looking forward to Nigeria improving too.

I don't see the point in being upset about other African countries trying to sort themselves out. Prosperous neighbours on the continent > civil wars next door. (That's economic theory.) Let us use some enlightened thinking and not focus on getting mad at other countries when they improve.

teufelein:


let the mother of all wars break out, who cares!

why are you misusing the bible.

2 Peter3: 16 speaking about these things as he does in all of his letters. In which there are some things that are difficult to understand, which the untaught and unstable [who have fallen into error] twist and misinterpret, just as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called ?

Jeremiah 8:8 "'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?

You quote that the Lord is slow to anger, abounding in love, yet .. cry for blood in the streets .. what kind of nonsense Christianity or Jewish belief are you practicing?

Reminds me of when you see were (a mad man) in the street; among the Yoruba we just ignore them.

What point is there in refuting the op? It's like describing the property of quarks, or the scientific process of landing on the far side of the moon to a 2nd millennium BCE illiterate serf from the kingdom of Sai.

Many self-styled community representatives have exploited the ignorant since time immemorial.

Just what to know what you all wish you could learn about the culture of your parents or grand parents?

Elhuxaifa:
Who can help please


fool:


hausa: wawa

yuroba ?

Igbo ?

Yoruba have few words for fool

Olori buruku - someone with an idiotic mind
Olodo - someone with a zero IQ / academic potential
Aditi - dumb / fool
Oponu - someone too stupid to produce coherent thoughts 247
Ode - fool
Olosi - a person that gets everything wrong and devotes their life and time to unimportant and stupid things; it’s like calling a person devoted to foolishness.

The above insults can be countered very easily by responding that the ancestor of the person doing the insulting is any one of the above types of fool.

Eg Baba baba re li olori buruku

afonjaheadhunt:
We often read from the Yoruba media about the Oyo empire and how widespread and powerful this empire was, but no documents, finding or evidence any where in the world suggest these claims to be true only Yoruba folklore by the Yoruba revisionist elders and academicians, who have tried to rewrite their history by editing the feats of their conquerors to be That of Yorubas, but simple research or finding put all this claim to a fail test and simply portrays the Yorubas as a tribe that have been conquered since time immemorial as a matter of fact Yoruba land was split amongst to great African Kingdoms, Benin Kingdom and Dahomey kingdom this two kingdoms had their boundaries in present day south west Nigeria and shared the spoils of war within those bounds.

While every tribe in Nigeria have accounts of brutal wars with colonialist and invaders The Yorubas on their own part never confronted any of their colonialist or invaders they never challenged the Portuguese that gave Eko its name Lagos, the never confronted the British colonialists, they never challenged the Benin invaders whom became overlord in Lagos, installed a king and made Lagos a proxy of Benin kingdom, the old Oyo empire was overrun and brought to its knees by Dahomey women whom took their men as slaves, made their women maids and their children servants, The Fulani's conquered them in Illorin and installed an Emir, they Yorubas were over run by the Tiv, Nupe in Kabba and other Yoruba towns. Yorubas were simply a walk over in the history of Africa and the struggles for civilization and ethnic survival.

Yorubas claim that the Oyo empire stretches to Benin kingdom on the east and stretches to Benin republic and Togo on the west, this is one of the biggest lies ever told in the history of mankind, Africa and Nigeria as a nation. To be fair to history the reverse was actually the case. We all know that oduduwa who the Yorubas claim they are descendent from was actually a Benin prince whom went west to expand the Benin empire, the Yorubas on seeing the awe that came with the arrival and presence of Oduduwa the Benin prince pledge loyalty and support to him and rallied around him in Ile Ife which also became a Benin proxy like Lagos whom the Benins overruled. What the Yorubas refer to as Oyo empire was simply a administrative province for Benin Kingdom and Dahomey Kingdom being the center of both great empires.

On the western part it is common knowledge that the Dahomey women who from the Benin/Togo axis Present day Togo, moved and conquered eastward from the present day Togo to the present day Oyo state in south west Nigeria. Many parts of Yoruba land still speak a very corrupted version of the language of the Dahomey female warriors from Benin/Togo axis, Today you still find some Yoruba slave settlement in Benin/Togo the Yoruba slaves have been integrated in their society with coming of the white man, Slave trade and civilization. The Yorubas in Benin/Togo were slaves and spoils of war to Dahomey Kingdom, the Yorubas in Togo are ancestral descendants of Yorubas in present day south west Yoruba land in Nigeria. The relationship between the Yorubas and Benin/Togo is nothing short of a conqueror and conquered relationship or slave master relationship.

South west was divided and ruled by two great kingdoms. Benin Kingdom ruled to the west in Ile Ife axis down to Lagos, while present day Togo republic ruled to the East stretching all the way to Ibadan and Oyo present day Oyo state, Nigeria. However with the coming of the British to Nigeria Yorubas were wise to buy into the media and developed the media industry not just in Nigeria but west Africa at large and they used the media to rewrite and revisit history. However they can only deform those who are not versed to access informations as the Benin/Togo and Benin kingdom still have their very documented history which have been corroborated by the British, Portuguese, French missionaries and colonialist. Yoruba history on the other hand are simply revisions and revised history of the Benin/Togo and Benin Kingdoms history.

The fact that Yoruba history says they are descendants of Oduduwa whom they claim fell from the sky, when in truth he was actually a Benin prince on an expansionist journey, this gives credence to the fact that Yorubas have no record of their history and the one they take pride in is simply a fallacious mirage.

NOTE: This post was summarized so Nairalanders can read to the end, some accounts, excerpts, dates and events have been removed to keep it short. You can do some research to get more information or get in touch for the full context therein.

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This op lacks education. I don't get the impression you have an Athens login.

I don't get the impression you understand why Dahomey had to train women to fight. - most of their men had been killed from previous wars, defeats, which produced a society in which women outnumbered men. At the time they were raising their army to attack the Yoruba, they were paying tribute.

The Royal West African Frontier Force recruited Hausas and Yorubas because Britain targeted Nigerian martial cultures that produced people who could fight.

Although that is evidence of being bad ass, because they were deployed against the Japanese in Burma, lo wun , lo wun, it's also evidence of African stupidity. You should read up on the use of askari during the colonial wars to conquer Africa. Hausas and Yorubas were used to conquer the Ashanti kingdom in the Anglo-Ashanti wars. Go and study the battle honours of the RWAFF which includes firing the first shots of World War 1.

In terms of intellect, the Yoruba are among the first to invent steel in africa, after the Haya in Uganda.

We also produced a lot of the intellectuals that took part in the independence struggle to create Nigeria.

By avoiding dates in op, your article uses sensationalism to get attention. For instance, Ondoland has history that goes back to 1500 AD. If Dahomey conquered Yorubaland, like you said, in what decade was Dahomey ever in Ondoland? En?

The concept of Yoruba today is antiquated when you talk about history because the further back you go, to 1000 Ad, to 0 AD, the concept of the kingdom of Nri, kingdom of Oyo, kingdom of Benin becomes ridiculous because the proto-civilisations predate those modern social groups.

The prefix Ta in the word Ta-fa Ta-fa for archer actually dates back to a 8,500 bc "proto Niger-Congo" language and is shared by so many West African societies, that the linguistic evidence suggests the bow and arrow was invented in West Africa in the proto-S/W Nigerian civilisation. Which is a big deal when you consider the Ta Seti (4500 BC - 3500 BC) produced Egypt.

I-ra-wo , star , means "that" ("i" which contains Ra / light. or that ("I" which light entered "wo".

The history from 1800-1900 Ad therefore in no way reflects 9,500 BC to 1800 AD. The hegemony structure that involved Dahomey paying tribute to Oyo is only "history" relating to the last 400 years.

Complexity of iron technology (Peter Scmidt) and secure agricultural supply were the foundations of 3000 BC - 1, 000 AD empires and we had those mastered.

The talking drum could be used to communicate complex message over long distances ( 160 km in 2 hours), through a network of 6,000 villages within the Oyo hegemony.

I am happy for you to go and find your research to back up your op claim.

No! It is not enough to make spurious claims.

ImperialYoruba:


If there was ever any d0mb post in Nairaland, this is it.

Op,
There is a word in Yoruba, "Pele". Does English have a word for it?

In Igbo there is "Ndo". Does English have a word for it?

In Hausa, "Sannu". Does English have a word for it?

You will find out when you cross language barriers that are witin same family you get cognates and same meaning. However, when you cross to non-fraternal languages all you can do is "approximate"!

English is not in a family of language with any Nigerian tongue so you can only approximate.

This assignment you are chasing is the most unintelligent and d0mbest task.taskI feel like petitioning Ministry of Education to revoke your degree and ban you for ever applying to any job in Nigeria where the criteria require use of intelligence.

ouch

Our language rules in yoruba Are different. I don’t see a big deal with being “ourselves”

kunleweb:



Can you sponsor.local production?

I just see a lot of potential. Right now we are forecast to have an agricultural crisis by 2025 because we will only produce enough food to feed 25% of africa

So I find it interesting that Uganda, Rwanda and Burundi also have traditions in which the drums have an important role. Their oral tradition says that some of their ancestors came from the West.

magicjack:
I have noticed a certain mentality dat the yorubas n some northeners have, i went to ibadan recently n alot of people were calling me 'omo ibo' wen i correct them im not igbo, im 4rm rivers state, they will say 'ehn its the same thing', some will even follow you to argue your own tribe,lol, they will say that there are 3 major tribes in nigeria and as far as they know all edo, niger delta and calabar pepo are igbo.
Please I didnt open this thread to quarrel with anybody or cause disunity o, we are all brothers in nigeria, i just want to know what gave them(especially the yorubas) that funny mindset

i don't think yoruba people have meetings with northerners or each other to decide if you are ibo or south south . It depends on cultural education. How many of them in ibadan or us have even been to the Niger delta or been taught at school about the history of the ibiobio, nupe, ijaw, itsekiri, nri (igbo) or bini?

It's like how we call Japanese or Korean people chinko, or pakistani, sri lankan and bangladeshi people indian. What you are complaining about is informal / erroneous education/socialisation.

kunleweb:



Can you sponsor.local production?

Do you mind finance local production? Do you think it's not feasible?

First of all - I am Yoruba, I don't know if that adds anything to your perception of "my agenda" . But just disclosing to allow you to decide what you want to do with that knowledge. My preference is that we don't discuss ideas based on Oyinbo tags.

2. The unity of Yorubas Today is mythical. I need only point to the state Britain found Yorubaland in when they conquered Nigeria, squabbling among ourselves. Every chiefdom wanting to be "an empire" , the Ife "empire", the Ijebu "empire", the Ondo "empire", the "Owu" "empire", the Ilorin "emirate". I am ridiculing our disunity. If you are honest, I think you should conclude that we are as disunited as those groups you mentioned. When Odudua came, polities already existed throughout Yorubaland.

3. The fact that we have had Ernest Sonekan and Obasanjo as president is NOT a big deal. Read up on Nnamdi Azikiwe who I respect and consider a visionary. Yes, the Southeast have made mistakes with Ironsi and Ojukwu but the reason I think king-makers have been afraid to have an Igbo president is that civil war was not a laughing matter, it was an unfortunate experience for both the Southeast and the rest of Nigeria.

4. Origin stories, the world over, are the excuses monarchs give for their right to rule. It isn't a ralling excuse for the masses. The typical excuses that work are:

(a) class. we are all poor, they are all rich, let's band together.
(b) ethnicity. i.e. forming a new subtribe.
(c) inhumanity. a percentage of the population should be slaves so that everyone else can be rich and enjoy the benefits.
(d) military acumen. we can fight WELL even though we can't read. They are just geeks with four eyes and no fighting knowledge.
(e) natural disasters. coming together against non-man threats.
(f) external threats. coming together because of an organised foreign threat is superior numbers.
(g) religious. we have a channel to God or a god. You can't make any decisions without our religious guidance.

The excuses are many. I have studied Native America history, European history, Indian, Chinese, Japanese and African (west, east, south and North, 3.3million years ago to 1800).

5. Scientifically, being Edo, Urhobo, Bini or Yoruba is a social construct, not a biological truth. Based on mitochondrial dna and Y-chromosome historical evidence. If you want to solve small problems, I think this line of thinking of the OP will keep you engaged and give you some hobby to think about. If you want to solve the problems created by the Berlin Conference of 1848-1884 however, I think you need to transcend those distinctions. It took all of us Nigerians to expel British rule. When we were divided, we were played off against each other.

People from Senegal helped France conquer Madagascar and Morocco.
People from Nigeria helped Britain conquer the Ashanti confederacy.
People from Senegal, Mali and Burkina Faso fought against the Germans in WW1 under France.
People from Senegal, Mali and Burkina Faso fought with the Germans in WW2 under France.

I am praying to God that we will learn from the mistakes of the past and no f--- up like our great grandfathers did by being used (divided) to abet colonisation. They screwed up so that we can learn, not to repeat the same mistakes.

6. The North are more f--ked than the South is. They have more illiteracy, itinerant cattle herders, more orphans, less access to clean water, less GDP per capita and less access to healthcare. Their illiteracy and poverty issues and their servitude to their elite is what allows their elite to manipulate them. They are as powerless, as you feel.

There is a globally significant cereal called Pearl Millet first invented (domesticated from the wild varieties of the plant species) around 8,000 BC. Earliest archaeological evidence in the world is in Africa. I mention this as an example of one of many things Africans, particularly us Niaja people, and West Africans, are capable Why do we envy and covet items manufactured abroad, branded "Kellogg" etc? instead of re-discovering world leading industry?

We are on a path to being further exploited by the rest of the world if we don't change our attitude. Do you think there is a problem? How do we solve it?

marvin906:
Round table of future and past thieves until Nigerian youths start growing sense these old bastards will keep using us to play draft

lol

Dear Voters,

I have come to the conclusion that the ambitions of African leaders are not smart enough, not far-sighted enough, and not bold enough. Everyone under 30 may already know that the current candidates are a cancer, and old-age will rid the next generation of them all in the almighty name of God.

The Boqor
The root of the Warsangali (Somali) word for king “Boqor” is “belt”. Leaders are meant to unite their people and harness their abilities for the good of the nation. Our leaders have used division to rule and in so doing have sacrificed the potential of solidarity to solve African problems. Division leaves bitterness and carries grudges into future generations instead of a “public memory” of achievements.

The food supply
The public purse and investment has been used to enrich the few. While regional conflicts and below average literacy levels flourished, funds were not used to build a system that avoids growing trade deficits, depreciating currencies, debts in foreign currencies and growing interest pays.
Africa is one of only two continents to domestic rice, the other being Asia. How is it that Africa does not produce most of its own rice but imports most of it? $5.6 billion across all African countries is spent every year importing rice, one of the top 5 most important foods in the world. 26% of rice in the world is imported by Africa. How come African leaders did not identify the stupidity of importing a food that we can produce locally at a cheaper cost and that is scientifically the more nutritious species of rice?

The political system
The word senator comes from Latin for “elder” or “old man”, from “senex”. A senate is the assembly of old men or the assembly of elders. The bicameral legislature is not democratic. It existed in many cultures that were not democratic, that did not ensure the prosperity of the “many” and that were not lead by democratically elected leaders. Rome was led for longer under “emperors” and “kings” than the equivalent period for “proconsuls”. 18 of 45 US presidents were slave owners of Africans. “Democratic Athens” only allowed men with property to be citizens. Until 1820, white American men needed property qualifications to vote. Until 1920, white women could not vote. Until the Voting Rights Act of 1965, most black Americans couldn’t vote. Until 2017, the United States had never elected a Native American to the Congress.

Both American and European systems, which African leaders copied, functioned from inception with a bicameral legislative without representation for black people (9% of the population in the US), women (50% of the people in the US), and people without property. Even the UK Parliamentary system was originally created in the 13th century by Simon De Montfort to get representation from the richest people who he wanted to tax, not to give a voice to all adults.

Today, party candidates are selected in primaries based on their ability to defeat candidates in the largest rival party, not based on whether they are the best candidate available for the country. If two parties are full of poor candidates, Africans have to pick between two parties resourced with poor candidates. In Africa a stranger thing happens, candidates can switch between the two largest political parties without consequence, any time they want.
Why do African politicians think that the younger generation is blind to the fact that the political system is not designed to speed up change but to maintain power in the hands of the powerful.
Unelected power
Many decisions in Africa are made by unelected persons and not necessarily the best person to make those decisions:
- ¬Once a president is elected, most presidents are able to make up to or more than 1,000 appointments. Presidents can elect anyone they want into a position of trust handling money, power and decisions about people’s lives.
- No elections are held to decide who can become the attorney general, the head of police, a board member of all the most powerful companies in Africa, a board member of all the most powerful NGOs in Africa, a decision-maker at ports, airports, in churches, in mosques, in educational institutions, in professional bodies, or in radio and TV networks.
- No elections are held to decide who can become permanent secretary at state level or permanent secretary at federal level

The environment
Before 5,000 BC, lake Chad was a Mega Lake occupying 1,000,000 sq kilometres, larger than the Caspian sea today. After the end of the Holocene period, it shrunk to the size of close to 1960s Lake Chad, measuring 26,000 sq kilometres and an elevation of 286 metres above sea level. By 2000, it was only 1,000 square kilometres wide. Water is fundamental to all aspects of life: agriculture, drinking, raising livestock, fishing, construction, maintain a military and avoiding domestic armed conflicts.

When the Garamantes lived in the Sahara Desert from 500 BC to 600 AD, even then they had the common sense to mine “fossil water” from underground, and this sustained their civilisation for 1,100 years. Not many people know that apart from oil and gas, “fossil water” is the next abundant natural resource found in the Sahara Desert underground. The Garamantes could extract underground water.
How is it that these so called “old men”? The best politicians that political parties have to offer, don’t have the common sense to link deforestation and over usage of water supplies to the ensuing scramble for resources. Also, how is it that they cannot link this to their failure of leadership?

Attitudes to Education
Japan, Switzerland and the United Kingdom have few natural resources of the kind exported by Western companies in metric tonnes to manufacturing economies out of Africa. If we were to examine the World Bank’s estimates of national wealth, 80% of national wealth in developed economies comes from their labour force. Developed economies train their population to out-think “developing economies” so that Africa exports raw materials and imports finished goods, and so that each generation after the next repeating the same stupidity of the previous curriculums. The G20 elite mine people, the African leaders mine the environment – destroying the inheritance of Africans yet to be born.

Public health
An effective public health programme is fundamental to technology transfer between older generations and younger generations, having less widows and orphans, having not only a healthy military but also a public prosperity.

Pensions
If you survive to 60 and hope that pension payments will land in your bank account, ask yourself if you could safeguard the predictability of 30 years of retirement income by electing any of the current presidential candidates?

The International Image of Your Country
The international value of money is based on trust. It’s called “fiat money”. The international system of currency exchanges is based on trust, not gold or something tangible; for the basic reason that something tangible cannot keep score or keep up when production capacity of intangible outputs is infinite. You can’t print enough money to pay for the future products that human creativity will bring to the “market”. African leaders are too stupid to go abroad and sell the potential of their citizens. While the president of Israel will say “Our people are the most brilliant in the world”. Some African presidents will claim their people are the worst. As trust falls, currency depreciates and the cost of imports rise. Voters then elect another president that will make them poorer.
When your president opens his mouth to speak in international environments, are you embarrassed? Will your wealth rise in the world?

Concluding remarks
I submit that we are being ruled by idiots. I also submit that those idiots are a danger to their voters. If you are wise, I submit that you should sacrifice everything you can to make sure your children become educated and target not money, but every position of power where decisions about your life is being made, and train them to have integrity so the next generation will have reasonable candidates in every respect to pick from. Like arrows, fire your children at the post of senator, House of representation, company director, professor, minister, cabinet member, judge, head of police, head of Navy, head of the air force and every “head of” role, so that people who care will be the only candidates your grandchildren can choose from.

What do you think?

gregpee:
it is very heart broken that a country so blessed with abundant natural resources find it difficult to earn good leaving, on daily basis going to school from asaba to awka takes one almost 3 hours for a journey that was supposed to take less than an hour. below are some pictures of the present condition of the federal road connecting UMUNYA to UWKUZU in Anambra state

sad

lilmax:
smh....private universities in Nigeria are going that way, but the stupidity of Nigerians are hindering it

they have good facilities, but Nigerians are saying their school fees is too high

you think quality education is free? you should be a dumbass then

there is an important point in what you are saying actually. I think we may be on the way to excellence but it is organic and it will take time.

Yes, it is private and yes some universities will die and some will live.

Not many people will be able to visualise a 100-250 year impact of institutions created today but we are making positive moves.

Even today, only 30% of Americans and a proportion of G-20 citizens go to university. So while we are complaining about wanting to go to university but not having the best universities to go to , the majority of Oyinbo people are even university educated.

If we want to have the next Harvard we need to reimagine the purpose of higher education and churn out graduates that are OTT world-class.

I am Yoruba. I'd like to learn about all the other cultural heroes from other tribes. And also why were they considered Heroes?

For example like Alaafin Abiodun is known for a peaceful reign, Alaafin Sango, Oranyan, Oodua to Yoruba. If you are igbo, ibiobio, ijaw, fula, hausa, nupe, bini, etc. ?

My apologies my intellectual colleague but I have to deviate a bit...

THE FACT THAT NO AFRICAN WOMAN COMES TO MIND IN THIS SUBJECT SPEAKS VOLUME.


IT FURTHER BUTTRESS THE FACT THAT THE PLACE OF THE WOMEN ARE IN THE CITADEL OF TRIVIAL AND EMOTIONAL CUM CULINARY FIELDS.


THIS HAS TO CHANGE...


IHATAGO??

there are quite a few actually . Mary Jackson,

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2118526-when-computers-were-human-the-black-women-behind-nasas-success/

Better to check the facts before believing the lie.

That kind of original list is called “sample neglect”.

Hidden Figures

livingseed:
Let me share a little of my own thoughts. The answer is simply yes probably due to the fact that any goal attacked with the right actions in the right amounts with doggedness is attainable. What I mean is that regardless of a few unexpected events, the right acts done to the right degree over time will produce a prototype of Harvard anywhere.

I also can assure you that for instance, if all Harvard students moved to a Nigerian University and vice versa, those Nigerian students now studying in Harvard for some reason will definitely not be able to keep, sustain and possibly innovate the Harvard narrative while their counterparts would of course I'm sure you know what they can create. I'm not trying to be a pessimist but that should clearly tell me something likely on where I should be wrapping my head which should be my focus. A focus on a type of system that builds upon itself, that is perpetual and doesn't happen only one time in one state or in a country.

Think of it this way in business terms: You don't start a business, you ARE a business.

Understood . But oyinbo people have research that poses important challenges to what we all believe .

Should a “university” earn its reputation from

Growth - taking “dumb to above average” students and making them world-class Or

Achievement - taking in the brightest year 1 undergraduates in the world and making them the best graduates in the world.

There is more complexity I could mention but that binary question alone is a big question.

In practice, it means if you gave Nigerians the same education from the age of 2 as the person that ends up in Harvard, is Harvard responsible for the achievements of its students or is Harvard just a club for those would were already given advantages?

Another exam, if all the brightest Nigerians in every country in the world went to Uni Lag, would Uni Lag produce smarter graduates?

Getting into Harvard is Hard like Jonathan Getting re-elected. And Harvard recruits worldwide. Which smart kids from the world want to come to Nigeria? If all the smart kids in the world fought to enter Nigerian universities , is the Nigerian university responsible for them being smart?

Shelumiel:
Point of correction : the application of education solves problems. Nigerian educational system is subjective in nature and cannot solve the current problems plaguing the country . How ? From the onset , student learn things like atoms , molecules , fórmulas , and theories . They look nifty but only to those who understand it's application . I remember my days as an undergraduate studying Chemical Engineering ; we were studying things like mass and material balances on reactors and columns. Sometimes(out of curiosity )would ask our lecturers saying , " Sir , what is the use of all this ?" , and he would answer "Don't worry; you will get a better understanding once you do your Masters!". Imagine that ! How can you understand B when you do not have an understanding of A; how can you be productive when you do not even know the use of the knowledge you have gained ? This is now the trend in education in Nigeria ; it is now a norm that we have accepted .

Very well explained. I agree with everything you said.

In my head, I think it’s structural and systematic poverty. The government, rich and poor have no awareness that the game is rigged and everyone points the finger at each other.

The US became rich on its military, slave labour and loans they defaulted on. However, everyone born today is taught that they became rich based on capitalism, hard work and innovation. There are companies Today and institutions today that were built on the foundation of the transatlantic slave trade.

When slavery was abolished in America, every slave owner was paid $300 per slave. Each slave was allowed to leave the plantation, but vagrancy was made illegal.

Don’t get me wrong many businesses have been built on other things. But the wealth shifted west based on Africans paying with raw materials, gold and slaves (present value of future income) for finished goods (raw materials plus markup). Such olodo behaviour by our historic rulers.

After 160 years , that money has been “cleaned” through reinvestment in every new industry that came along.

At the time all this happened even Property-less white men could not vote. I am explained this so that you can understand that , the outcome Today isn’t explained by the system today. It travelled through Time, The Mindset of the Past, The Systems Of the past and power structures of the past to get here.

okwabayi:
For World War 2 and earlier it is hard to get records because as at then I doubt Nigerians had TV sets. My grandfather fought in World War 2. He passed away in 2001. During his lifetime there was no written, audio or video record of his participation, only word of mouth from his children.
I cannot imagine how young Peter T. Adeniyi was in the war. Another thing to consider is due to old age and probably mental degradation his words cannot stand as an authority on the events.
The Nigerian Civil War however has records of the events and also a lot of the participants are very much alive. It's the reason why a few movies are created based on it. Trust our government na, they try their best to frustrate these efforts for reasons known to them.

Reading and writing was never African culture until the white man introduced it. What we did was tell stories. This is why most of the legends of our ancestors involved magic, mysticism and superhuman feats -- stories are prone to exaggeration. We can make movies based on these but they won't look different from what Nollywood already offers.

He died aged 30.

Don’t let anyone misinform you. Africa had writing before Europe did. Sadly our generation is misinformed because they don’t read beyond the curriculum.

So I have worked in the TV and film industry before for Warner Bros, Discovery Channel and Liberty Global.

One thing Oyinbo people do fantastically is create Entertainment - films like Saving Private Ryan, Zero Dark Thirty, Lone Survivor, Where Eagles Dare and Tv series like Band of Brothers, from historical research. They go back in time and keep digging up new material like Spartacus, Vikings, Rome, Game of Thones from historic knowledge.

Nigeria has world war 1 and world war 2 heroes too but most people don't give an "Abacha" or realise the millions that can be made from publishing this kind of content.

An example is Peter Adeniyi Thomas, a Royal Air Force, Flight Lieutenant that fought in World War 2.

https://thinkafrica.net/2018/10/22/world-war-2-flight-lieutenant-peter-adeniyi-thomas/

Why do you think we don't use our history to create entertainment, more wealth and more jobs?

California is the 8th biggest economy in the world because of Silicon Valley and Hollywood. Why do you think it's not sinking into our head that big bunks can be made from culture?

KingSango:



Monarchy is a better system than a republic. You can still keep the state just restructure the presidency and replace it with the traditional rulers council as judges, the head of the council would be the head of the state. This could be the Alaafin of Oyo, the OOni, the Emir of Kano or Sultan Sokoto which each can raise large armies. You can still have democracy for governors, senators and city town leaders.

it’s like wishing for a formula to calculate additions in a world with artificial intelligence, big data and python ( a programming language not the snake). In the future certain societies will send Drones to fight not people , dear wishful thinking brother. Are you serious? The drones will thin out the army in this simplistic plan .

Shelumiel:
You still do not understand my post. Education is objective ; not subjective . That is why we have graduates who cannot offer society anything once they come out of tertiary institutions. Secondly , you forgetting the fact that an educational systems is supposed to be designed to solve problems in society. Now I ask you this question : can the current educational system in Nigeria , solve the problems in of today ?

I would suggest education is both subjective and objective.

To illustrate the subjective nature, consider history. History in Europe and United States is taught with those two regions as the good guys. Most of the time.

Subjective maths: in a 1 to eight numeral system. Without 9 and 10. Sixteen is two eights. (2 * 8 )

In a 20 based system, Yoruba , 60 is ogota (20 * 3). In a 10 based system , American 60 is 6 * 10.

A billion as you understand it today is a thousand million , but when Britain controlled 25% of the world, a billion was a million million.

To illustrate that even objectivity is subjective I will use English and Yoruba.

Grey = Dudu
Black = Dudu
White = funfun

To a colour blind person, how do they tell particular colours?
Prior to SI units , what was one kilometre? Or one mile?

Education doesn’t solve problems , application does and imagination.