Without the Itsekiri Benin couldn't even get to Lagos not to talk of having a post there The Itsekiri 's Ijebu relatives were in Lagos!
Can Benin Swim ,NO Can Benin Canoe NO
Na Itsekiri put you for head carry Benin come Lagos
Benin collapsed in Lagos on the same day the Itsekiri became Independent of Benin
Since the Benin are not Capable of Walking on Water to Lagos
My friend no talk again abeg. U no know has things dey work. You think it was 20 people that were in Benin? Only in the city the Portuguese wrote that there were about 50thousand people. And when u compare it with cities then, it was one of the biggest cities in the world in its time. What’s boat that they couldn’t build. People that then built organised cities with straight roads and street lights (testimony of the Portuguese). Itshekiri was their arm close to the coast. Benin wasn’t a coastal town, but Itshekiri being a junior ally had what was effectively the naval arm of the Benin Empire. When Benin needs to wage wars that had to be around water Itshekiris were bound to provide the necessary logistics. That’s how it works. Even if the Oba had boats which one can imagine it had because they sent ambassadors to European countries and even had a prince of theirs travel to Europe, they most probably would have anchored those boats/ships in ports in Itshekiri and maybe Eko
Just the same way the Egbas have 4 kings at Abeokuta and none is Superior to the other It was a Voluntary mutually beneficial association especially for Joint self defense
See, it’s because u guys do not understand how things work in the historical past or u just want to satisfy some bias. Nobody comes under anybody voluntarily. Benin was the controlling power in all of these areas then. Others did her biddings. When she wants to go to war they must also join her to fight
infofta: Binis never conquered Eko. It was founded by the Binis because of its close proximity to the Ocean which was vital for trade with the British. Other Yorubas joined the trade and they were made to pay royalties to the Oba of Bini. There might be other Yorubas in other parts before the Binis came but not Eko. The name was given to it by the Binis
I have had this argument too much. I can’t go over it again. Benin’s force under Ashipa conquered Eko. Please instead of arguing here with me u can quickly research it. I do not know who got to Lagos first, but when Benin conquered it, it was Aworis they conquered and subjugated
Without the Itsekiri Benin couldn't even get to Lagos not to talk of having a post there The Itsekiri 's Ijebu relatives were in Lagos!
Benin early too we’re lords over this itshekiris. They also provided them their monarchy just like they provided Lagos. In that time of 1400s to 1600s, Benin was the strongest in the area.
Christistruth00: Look, Benin Cannot even Swim not to talk of fighting the Awori and Ijebus who can swim like fish in Water
When it get down to the Wire and you dig deeper you will discover that the people who actually ran the show were the Itsekiri who even had Ijebu roots anyway
Na Itsekiri carry Benin come Lagos
And the Itsekiri even consider themselves to be Yoruba' People anyway
Benin People cannot Swim and they Cannot Canoe So Benin defeating Awori and Ijebus on Water is out of the Question
Just say it was the Itsekiri And the Itsekiri had Ijebu roots
Una no sabi history. Una just dey look at history from the prism of those Yoruba abija wara bi ekun movies. Warri was an ally of Benin. Warris force is effectively the naval force of Benin. Benin had overwhelmingly influence and control over this people. Wetin be the meany of people fit swim and people no fit swim? I believe I think ear then like u see in Yoruba films is made up of like ten people against some 15people carrying only jazz. War then was the movement of thousand of people with armor, helmets, guns, few horses (as it’s the case with Benin), spears and hundreds of Boats of different sizes.
FreeStuffsNG: It remains a shame that there was even an attempt to use dishonest means to revise history and suggest that the original owners of the land are now the bini settlers. Haba!What a fraud!
It's so sad and it's a lesson to communities currently giving land to settlers to ensure that they keep records very well like our Yoruba forebears did. Kudos to our forebears for keeping accurate records for a period like this. They had the foresight that some of the descendants of the settlers may some day lie that they own the land.
But for these history books that documented who owns Lagos, none of our forebears would have ever proven to us that the had an inkling that some day the descendants of bini visitors in Lagos will some day covet and brazenly lie that they own Lagos. Ha! Aiye ma nika o.
Asari Dokubo was absolutely right in his account and his anger at the Oba of Benin was because the Oba of Benin even removed the assistance his Ijaw gave to the Benin who attacked that part of Yorubaland.
It's been one lie after another further diminishing the Benin in the eyes of many. From the bursting of the Benin lie that the Oba of Benin never leaves the palace , internet era came and exposed the blatant lie. Next was lie that they did not originate from Ile Ife and heads of past Oba of Benin were not buried in Ile Ife but the Yoruba elders were so clever to preserve the history and location in Ile Ife till date. The 3rd lie is the attempt to claim a land that does not belong to them not knowing that the Yoruba documented it well.
The only reason I think they lie in this manner is pride. Now pride has led to fall.
Below is a picture that shows how far behind the Oba of Benin is behind the Ooni of Ife. This picture, all other evidences including the Orun Oba Ado in Ile Ife and oldest history books is the triumph of history over lies. Check my signature for free stuffs!
The king may have not mentioned it the correct way, but what is the fact and that does happen often in ancient time is that Benins defeated Lagos and confiscated it. They set up a monarchy that became the focal point of Lagos. Lagos paid tributes for more than 300years. This is an acceptance of Benin lordship over Lagos. Benins were effectively the landlord (may not be landowners) of Lagos all those time. It’s only in 1860, about 150 years ago that Lagos got independence from Benin when they stopped paying tax and tributes to them after political wranglings. Still, the royal house in Eko now which is still arguably the most important in the whole of Lagos is of Benin ancestry. This are the facts. No need to drag issues unnecessarily
Who they dey deceive? So ordinary 35bn can revive that company that can benefit directly 5thousand people and you are using 20bn to build one useless house for one useless assistant officer like that?
I just remembered something now. No body is talking about the palliatives again. I hope everybody got theirs because they allotted billions of our limited money for the program oh?I didn’t see any with my eyes though
Agness7: invested a lot indeed. Do you mean it was justifiable for him to budget 1 billion for education while he budgeted over 5 billion naira for the running of his office?
He did a lot by not conducting local givt elections in eihht years? He really did.
About the local government. Court injunction stoped him. It’s there u can research. There were court cases from many angle that needed spurting out. A lot of credit needs to go to him from the way he administered the state because his time was a turbulent one. There were serious opposition from many quarters back by the federal government. That year he budgeted that amount for his office was an exceptional case. A lot needed to be done in the office after it fell into disrepair. You have to look at the remaining years to see how he prioritize education. Infact, Anambra was later adjudged to be best in education that very year u pointed out
Thundafireseun: You are a goat if you don’t know that you can’t win any election in Nigeria when you’re not ready to bribe.
Peter Obi’s old trick in his sleeves is to run to Judiciary after the elections… he forgot that the executive still controls the judiciary in Nigeria/ Africa.
Peter obi succeeded in wasting your time and my time
He better not win the elections then if he must win it that way. We are not only in the battle to win elections, we also want to win corrupt practices
Agness7: i dont need to know anambra before and after he left to know that he met awka undeveloped and left it undeveloped, medical doctors went on strike for 13 months, he refused to conduct local govt elections for eihht years, he played religious and tribal politics as a governor e.t.c. Do i need to be in anambra to know all these about him?
How many times will people show u...(or is it because u do not do research) that the upended election was because a court ruling stopped them from doing it all those time. COURT STOPPED HIM FROM CONSUCTING THE LG ELECTION. THERE WERE COURT CASES. Now will u take in this knowledge now and never put that on him again? I do not remember why doctors went on strike so I can’t defend that here now. I say only what I know. About the religious whatever, it’s propaganda against him
tuzle: [size=8pt][/size]that doesn't mean I want to kill them. There are lot of people who have opposing views to what we believe and this opposing view may in one way have a negative effect on us, so should we start replicate one act with another barbaric act.
I told u it’s for effect. I sincerely wouldn’t want something like that. I am well read to know humans are mostly helpless in many situations. We are sick. There are many things we indulge in that we know it’s affecting us negatively but we still persist for some reasons. It can however be frustrating when u observe that others are dragging u down with their warp sense of judgement. U think “how can anybody keep supporting this people with this obvious implicating signs?”
tuzle: what kind of stupid and barbaric suggestion is that?
Well it’s for effect. But the truth is that there is high possibly that if u look at your neighbor sitting next to u u will probably be looking at somebody that is supporting APC. This people to reasonable people have proven to be one of either of this two; an ignoramus or an outright evil person. They are the enemies of humanity. How can somebody sensible ignore all these wickedness from our present government. A government for just friends and families. A government that is so disconnected with the present fate of the masses?
Na we kill our selves. I want to suggest everybody should get a gun and just go out tomorrow morning and shoot anybody they first see. That person is probably their enemy. Half of Nigeria is made up of vile people. See what this government that some ordinary Nigerians helped in is f*cling us in the a$$
Time Magazine is almost ready to announce its 2023 Person of the Year.
The nine candidates for the honor were revealed Monday morning during NBC's "Today Show" and are highlighted by individuals, groups or concepts that "had the most influence on the world throughout the previous 12 months."
The award is a tradition that dates back to 1927, according to Time, and is the "annual designation for the person, group or concept that most shaped the headlines, for good or ill."
Previous winners include Martin Luther King Jr., Pope Francis and German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
naaija: Rehabilitation of Upper Iweka Touts in ANAMBRA
Anambra State Governor, Prof. Chukwuma Charles Soludo, CFR, in October reiterated that the days of touts in the state are numbered and a full blown war has been declared on them.
He maintained that in an environment where lawlessness has become a culture, bringing back law and order will be difficult.
Governor Soludo made the statement during the launching of the Anambra Special Anti-Touting Squad held at Upper Iweka, Onitsha.
Mid November, Chibuzor Okoye of ABS News reported that SASA Arrested 413 Touts, Sets Of "One Chance" Criminal Gangs, Illegal Revenue Collectors In Onitsha, Environs
The report claimed that the Anambra Anti-Touting Squad (SASA) within one week apprehended 413 touts, illegal revenue collector's and four sets of "one chance" criminal gangs in Onistha and it's environs.
In the past few days, a video of the rehabilitation of the arrested touts made rounds on social media platforms in the state as they are forced to sing the Governor’s praise by Homeland Antitouting Unit in ANAMBRA state. The de-radicalization approach has also drawn criticisms as it reflects a similar old terrifying video that showcased the experiences of Okuzu SARS inmates inmates in the state that formed part of the ENDSARS protests nationwide.
Nonetheless, the notorious activities of these touts and criminals cause loads of harms and many times cost innocent persons their lives/livelihoods.
I am please asking for all the genuine help i can get right now to deal with an issue that has tormented me all the days of my life. I am open to criticism if it comes my way.
Situation: my mum (biological mother) is extremely lazy, lacks discipline, difficult to advice and very manipulative. However the laziness aspect is my main issue.
A brief history of myself, i am currently in my late 30s, firstborn and only male, with 2 sisters also in their 30s. I have been managing her case for the past 30 years since our father passed. I should mention that her mental health isn't that perfect and she suffers breakdown at least once a year whenever she misses her drugs. The nature of her breakdown is that she will keep on talking about most events from the past and view them in a negative way, she gets violent at times and uses foul words while cursing anyone who she thinks has wronged her. I pray non of us reading this will experience this in their families.
The chaos we experience whenever there is a breakdown is something i don't wish for my enemy at all, the effect is draining financially, emotionally and in various other ways you can think of. Infact looking back i owe God a lot of gratitude for the strength and courage he has given me and by extension my sisters in managing her very tricky situation. The shame, embarrassment, wasted time and efforts, lost opportunities that have come with her condition can only be imagined. I have had to sleep over at the hospitals various times whenever she's on admission running into weeks at times, i have had to represent the family at functions she was suppose to attend but due to ill health. I was lucky i didn't fail any of my last papers in Uni cos she was on admission, i missed a second class upper courtesy of my mums condition, the only 2 courses i ever failed in my 4 years at the Uni can be linked to her condition. I had to practically plan and organise a wedding for our last born cos she was on hospital bed. Some of her breakdowns happen whenever an occasion or celebration within the family is about to happen... my 21st birthday, final exams leading to graduation in uni, weeks to my wedding, weeks to her second born wedding, a whole month to our last born wedding, funeral of her mother in law, funerals of our grandparents, her own 60th birthday... the list is so long and at times i almost consider it spiritual but i am better informed.
In the last 2 years or thereabout i have been able to connect a few dots and patterns based on what i have experienced and seen. When my mum and her siblings (five) were being raised, the kind of family setup was such that cousins, distant cousins and relatives lived with them. This was because her late dad was a University lecturer, probably the 1st in his Hometown and granny was a primary school teacher, you know how it was in those days. I was able to understand that my mom and most of her siblings except one practically lived a life free of stress cos they had other relatives who were willing and at disposal to do major chores and take up responsibilities at home, they sort of lived a carefree life. I have stayed and lived a couple of times with these other siblings of my mum due to various reasons like holidays from boarding school, moving to another location for job opportunities etc.
I can practically tell from what i have seen with this people. All her life, things were being done for her and she's just free to do anything she wants apart from chores. Even her building project though her own money and sweat was an initiative of her late parents. They were practically her project manager and support system throughout their lifetime. Its a good thing to do but not setting limits and not being hard has it own detriments eventually, cos till date she's entirely reliant on anyone available to do even the simplest of chores. Let me quickly breakdown some of her acts and attitude which is very injurious to her own health.
1. The first on the list and perhaps the most annoying one is her laziness and OMG it reeks to the heavens. She avoids responsibilities and doesn't do house chores and generally procrastinates. My mum will use the toilet in her room and even living room and not flush properly on a constant basis. She does this even when she travels elsewhere. My mum can eat but cannot wash her plates and utensils, she will leave her plates in the living room for days or just anywhere, pots will pile up in the kitchen and will not be cleaned until every other option is exhausted and a new meal must be made. She will not lay her bed or change sheets constantly. She doesn't dress smartly and lacks good wardrobe management. She doesn't sweep, her corridor may not be touched in weeks same with other rooms in her apartment. Shes doesn't bother if she's unkept. Whenever she eases herself, due to her carefree attitude she will leave stained urine on her clothe and she will wear this throughout the day causing mayhem wherever she goes. Just add anything you can thing of as examples, you will find it with my mum. The annoying thing here is that if you advice her or suggest a change, she will rebuke you and tell you your are insulting her.
2. She's carefree and lacks good financial management. She earns well over 100K per month as pension and if we calculate her expenses per month she should have over 30 to 35k as savings. You can never account for how she spends her money! 10 days into a new month, the money is gone. Most times her friends abroad send her free money from and she will just squander the money on frivolities. She has a small shop that she runs, but for her to even stock the place sef na issue, she doesnt have a separate account for business and no stock is taken end of month or at least a quarter. We actually warned her against the line of business as its very common and the profit isn't much. We have practically considered her carelessness, carefree attitude and inability to keep things safe and warned against the shop idea. In the last 3 years she has lost 2 phones of high value. As if she likes to brag, whenever shes having discussion about money that is in her favour, maybe salary or someone abroad sends her money, she will begin to speak at the top of her voice such that an average person passing round can almost get full details. We have severally warned her against this but no luck at all. The consequence is that she has been defrauded a couple of times, you can act as a fake customer care agent of any bank and ask my mum for sensitive details like card number, password and she will give you immediately without a second thought despite the fact that she has been warned repeatedly. As a matter of fact she doesn't listen to her children's counsel or advice, but anybody from outside will give her advice and she ll make us of that one. She once told me off that i am not in any position to advice her that shes older than me and it should be the other way round. But when all the shit happens yours truly will be the one managing d situation.
3. She's manipulative. My mum is a master in this game and i am ashamed of her actions. I can't even mention some of the things she has done to my wife and I on this platform. She lies, deny incidences and things she has said. About her drugs, there is just one rule, do not skip any of morning or evening doses. Whenever she does she will never own up to you and when the effect is now seen, she will still try to cover up by saying she can't remember.
4. She's unforgiving. My mum is the last person you want to offend, even things that shouldn't be considered will be used against you when the time comes. For instance my mum may give someone raw food out of her own freewill or maybe the person asked for it, but months from that time the story can change that the person is the one stealing raw food or looting her house.
I apologise this is a long read and i can't even explain a quarter of what is going on at the moment, but the summary is that her laziness and lack of motivation is driving me nuts, i always have to bear and manage the consequences whenever shit happens. Its not easy for me cos i have my own family to manage and the responsibility is killing. Currently her househelp resigned 2 months back and the house has been a mess since then, she does practically nothing. I have been attending a workshop for the last one week and heard she's been feeding on puff puff and cornflakes every other day without making stew or soup and eating real food. This is a woman that money on her, even if you are lazy to cook, why not indulge yourself and patronise eateries till you have motivation to enter kitchen. Why not even make an arrangement for someone to come cook food for you everyday amd pay the person weekly or daily. We have to think for her and suggest things that require no initiative in most cases. I had to go and buy beef and made blended stew for her last weekend for example to motivate her amd assist like i always do. When i got back the following weekend, the stew wasn't even half used and there was mould on it indicating that she never cooked a serious meal, she was probably buying bread and removing the meat until it finished and lost interest in even heating the stew to warm.
Its more like if i don't do things for her, she will make herself fall into a state where she will enter deep sickness or starvation or depression such that people will see me as a bad person if anything sould happen to her. Already she has created that impression and she's living the lifestyle. Its been two weeks she's has remained indoors for no reason, no opening of shop, no cooking, no cleaning, no laundry, no strolling out and always expecting unknown help from anywhere it comes from. I have told her to pick herself up that help is something we must give ourselves. I have to go out to work daily not sitting down to baby sit my mum who is not an invalid. Her body is complete with no defects but i can't just help her laziness and attitude anylonger, its choking for me and i can't take ot anymore or do more than i have been doing. I have literally carried this woman for the most productive part of my life and done nothing wrong just loving my mother unconditionally. I have come to a point where i have to move on and break some unnecessary connections for my sanity and future of myself amd immediate family.
Please help and advice me guys on what to do. When she not in good health mentally na wahala and serious commotion and when shes stable, i have to battle with laziness, constant manipulations, carefree lifestyle, lack of discipline and vision and lots more. I have endured these cycle for too long. Also note that my sisters are married and are not even available at all, one is overseas and the other in a faraway state. I may not have touched some areas cos the issue too plenty but if questions are asked i would digress into it and share details truthfully. God bless
Moderator Sir/Ma, i beg you to help me push this to front page. I am not feeling good at all. Thanks
So sorry mate. You see the world has degenerated. If u are informed really u will know that all of us have mental sickness in various ways to varying degrees. Do not blame your mum much. She is mentally sick. Her upbringing may have helped maximize it, but u can’t blame the upbringing entirely for her condition. At least u can look at her siblings that shared the same upbringing and I am sure they do not all behave like that. How u can make the effect less heavy on u is to come to terms with this. It’s ur reality. She just doesn’t have the mental strength and emotional awareness to behave better than she is behaving. You see her as a liar but God sees those things as weakness. This is why God judges differently to man. A man may lynch and burn somebody that stole a phone in a store, but then God knows the man is suffering from a mental illness known as kleptomania. May God bless u with the necessary resources. Keep doing what u can for her so ur children can learn from ur example. U do not know what will become of u too in the future and u will want ur children to always come through for u. I credit u for ur resilience so far. U still have about 50years of such resilience. It’s a small time... just 50years. CHEERS BRO
iTroll: No mind the stupid girl E wan day take wetin she no fit give This height requirements is the most stupid thing I've ever seen A lot of great men that their names are being remembered till tomorrow were short men Men like Alexander the Great and Napoleon Bonaparte were relatively short men. That babe na complete mumu
Botragelad: You're talking a load of rubbish, mate. Israel has released more Palestinian prisoners, including some who were involved in deadly attacks against Israelis .
Why does Israel have so many Palestinian children in prisons? Maybe because they're involved in terrorism and violence, like throwing stones at tanks, stabbing soldiers, or joining Hamas . What type of country imprisons children? A country that has to defend itself from constant threats and attacks by its enemies, that's what.
But then, it is better for a child to be in prison than to be shot, you say. Well, maybe you should ask yourself why these children are being shot in the first place. Is it because they're innocent victims, or because they're trying to kill Israelis? And who is putting them in harm's way? Is it Israel, or Hamas and other militant groups that use them as human shields and recruit them as fighters.
You say that two Palestinian children were assassinated in Jenin yesterday. That's another lie. They were not assassinated, they were killed in a firefight between Israeli forces and armed Palestinians. One of them was a 16-year-old boy who was carrying a rifle and a grenade. The other was a 9-year-old boy who was caught in the crossfire. It's tragic, but it's not Israel's fault. It's the fault of those who started the shooting and endangered the lives of civilians.
Jenin is a hotbed of Hamas activity and a source of many terror attacks against Israel. Hamas has a strong presence in the West Bank. Israel has arrested dozens of Hamas operatives in the West Bank in recent weeks, including a spokesman and a senior leader. Were you asleep when all these was happening?
Don't give me that nonsense that Israel is the problem.
Were those kids killed yesterday armed? I hope u know the rule of engagement and proportionality? So when children are protesting and throwing stones, the reasonable response is to fire at them? I hope u didn’t shout and cry at Nigerian government during ENDSARS massacre oh?
Shoodboi: I said it on the earlier post that they're about to claim it's Hamas and they didn't disappoint.
They're even claiming they're prisoners released by Israel when Israel only released 'prisoners' below 18.
300 prisoners below 18. Some have been in Israeli prisons since they were 12.
Why does Israel have so many Palestinian children in prisons?
What type of country imprisons children?
But then, it is better for a child to be in prison than to be shot in the head... like these two Palestinian children that Israeli soldiers assassinated in Jenin yesterday.
One was shot in the head. Israel shot a 9-year-old Palestinian boy in the head.
NOTE: Jenin is in the West Bank and not in Gaza. There is no Hamas there, yet they're being killed like rams. Yet Israel claims Hamas is the problem.
Thank u. Me I an not a sentimental discriminatory person. I just mentioned this kids murder to him. It didn’t take the front page of BBC oh. Something that happened yesterday
Botragelad: More info. This is a follow-up and proof to those who slagged off the earlier post on fp. Some called it a lie and propaganda from IDF. These blokes are Hamas members. No word of a lie.
These are the so-called innocent "kids". These are the same people woke muppets are backing. Truth is these guys are only after Israel's snuffing. They don't give a toss about themselves. They've done it loads of times and they will keep doing it unless they are hunted down to the last man!
See Israel do a formal terrorism against this guys. Now it’s in the news that Palestinians killed 3people, but do I know that just this yesterday Israeli force killed 3 to four children in west bank. Mind u West Bank isn’t fighting Israel now oh
Jagaban2012: Seyi Tinubu big pass your papa.... Show get size... Seyi Tinubu dey deliver for his papa....where see the children of Obi Peter and Atiku.....
Politicians put their sons at the forefront of the struggle but Peter Obi and Atiku dey hide their children and use other children as guinea pigs...
Hmm So the struggle is to be shooting guns and using thuggery? Is theirs the society u want for ur children?
Jagaban2012: Seyi Tinubu big pass your papa.... Show get size... Seyi Tinubu dey deliver for his papa....where see the children of Obi Peter and Atiku.....
Politicians put their sons at the forefront of the struggle but Peter Obi and Atiku dey hide their children and use other children as guinea pigs...
So the struggle is to be shooting guns and using thuggery? Is theirs the society u want for ur children?
Blakjewelry: First off do your research on El, Elyon.
Then do your own research on the original version of deuteronomy 32:8 - 9 so differentiate from the current edited one you.
Secondly just do research on bodies with largest amount of water in the solar system. This I know because I follow up everything on nasa and I know even the next mission to Europa to explore the moon of jupiter, it is ocean world with icy surface but water often time shoots into the sky in the for geysers which was close captured by the casini space probe.
Yes evolution has it many questions but it so far answer many questions compare to what the Bible has to offer. Plus science is not something you just dive in and you understood everything. It will take you years, evolution does not say man is from ape rather we are genetical link at some point it complex process if you want to trace. Different species of humans live at a time in history and there physically evidence to that even scientist who are not in support of evolution cannot deny that fact. They live at point in time of which archeological evidence point to as fact plus DNA evidence also prove inherit some of their trait.
You may want to ask why are we not seeing it today, but it's something that happens over hundreds of thousands of years to millions of years which is a very time compare to what we observe readily.
Now people using the Bible as measuring stick often time forget that Bible was actually written toward the first temple period which thousands of years into the future when the Mesopotamians already discovered writing. Now it will you shock you that people have also lived in that same area thousands of years without written history because writing hasn't been discovered then.
Also there is another settlement that predate the Mesopotamia era in modern day turkey known as göbekli tepe which estimated to be around 9500 bc so try and research more.
BTW were the old testament mentioned the devil sef, educate me
I am not talking about the Devil now. It will take this correspondence to another area and it will get cumbersome. I haven’t gotten anything concrete about the allegation that Deuteronomy was edited. What I can read there now is consistent with all the other descriptions of Yahweh and El(God) in other places if the Bible. Most times, no one verse explains fully an issue, u have to cross reference it against other part of the Bible. That’s how Bible is understood. Humans like man had many type. But they all were fully humans. See, like every animal species like dog and horse that one can get several types in the species, humans too can bring up different types but in its specie. We have had several types of humans. Infact we still do and we can still have further different types. There are men with little sizes in Austria. There are men with a bit different type of physical features on their faces in the orient. There are tall people in Kenya. There are blacks with blue eyes and golden hair in Polynesia. If all this Donisovos and neantherthal (I am not sure if I get there spellings correct),and homits have worn clothes and mix with our present human population, they won’t attract any special attention The Neantherthal only have some variations in their cheekbone. We have people with bigger variations in the world today. The Chinese have there eyelid turned in. The Australians have flattened head. Some Igbos lack protruding skull at the back. Please science is politicized. It take really logic and knowledge to be able to get the real truth in today’s world. The method they use in dating many at times have shown it isn’t reliable. The use the dating measure on the assumption that the earth conditions have remain relatively the same all this thousand of years.
Blakjewelry: First off do your research on El, Elyon.
Then do your own research on the original version of deuteronomy 32:8 - 9 so differentiate from the current edited one you.
Secondly just do research on bodies with largest amount of water in the solar system. This I know because I follow up everything on nasa and I know even the next mission to Europa to explore the moon of jupiter, it is ocean world with icy surface but water often time shoots into the sky in the for geysers which was close captured by the casini space probe.
Yes evolution has it many questions but it so far answer many questions compare to what the Bible has to offer. Plus science is not something you just dive in and you understood everything. It will take you years, evolution does not say man is from ape rather we are genetical link at some point it complex process if you want to trace. Different species of humans live at a time in history and there physically evidence to that even scientist who are not in support of evolution cannot deny that fact. They live at point in time of which archeological evidence point to as fact plus DNA evidence also prove inherit some of their trait.
You may want to ask why are we not seeing it today, but it's something that happens over hundreds of thousands of years to millions of years which is a very time compare to what we observe readily.
Now people using the Bible as measuring stick often time forget that Bible was actually written toward the first temple period which thousands of years into the future when the Mesopotamians already discovered writing. Now it will you shock you that people have also lived in that same area thousands of years without written history because writing hasn't been discovered then.
Also there is another settlement that predate the Mesopotamia era in modern day turkey known as göbekli tepe which estimated to be around 9500 bc so try and research more.
BTW were the old testament mentioned the devil sef, educate me
Do not reinforce lies na. What’s your gain? Just go online and type planents with most water and Earth still tops. Infact it’s only earth that has ocean. It’s only earth that’s 70% water. Until I post pictures ？
Blakjewelry: Nope it's you who do not understand the dynamics of the early human society.
First off there is no scientific evidence of a global flood on earth, even Christian scientist have come to term that maybe flood story was a point of view an not a global one and before you argue were all the water comes from, Jupiter's moon Ganymede and Europa has more water than earth so tell me if a global flood occur there too, beside earth rank 5th in the solar system when it comes to water.
Also flood story do not point to any fact about human single parentage, yes while science points to Africa as the source of man, there also was a time when different species of pre modern man existed. There are fact left over history to point to that fact and modern day Christian scientist tried to put forth an argument that modern man was the one God created in his own imagine. Now the Bible did not say so rather points the story of the watchers which again is based on ancient Mesopotamia story but is also at odd because there is no single archeological evidence to that effect but contrary to that, there are evidence of dinosaur which the Bible fail to mention because it's not aware.
On the part whether the Bible is factual, well it is part history part myth. Myth because it is a cumulation an modification of ancient Mesopotamia myths and history passed down through history.
Now there is no curniform record of isrealite old testament rather most of the Jewish text were written in papyrus form which comes thousands of years later. Remember most of the reform happened toward the first and second temple era most of the modification was done then.
Now back to the issue of who is El and yahweh, El was the elder God in ancient Mesopotamia and yahweh is one of his sons.
The text discovery helps to shine more light on the old text testament go read the different transcript of deuteronomy 32:8-9.
U have jam parked and juxtaposed so many things. Aside Israelites books where else did u see Yahweh to have said he is a junior god to El? The only other place where Yahweh appear is in Egypt and it has to do about Israelites. El is the name for gods in Mesopotamia. And you have been lying too (or maybe u do not do researches). Earth is the only planet that have been found with substantial water. Infact it is called the watery planet.
And again I must tell u; the purported evolution of man from some primitive early man is a big lie by some sections of scientist. They have not been able to really proof the theory. There are lapses in the theory that I can go on listing for you. Example; they have not been able to show the species between the leaps from one species to the other. 2) they claim smarter brand survive the archaic ones. We have apes and gorillas now, where are those other ones that are supposed to have been an improvement on them? Those one have died off while gorillas and chimpanzees remain. Many scientists are beginning to agree that different species of animals appear almost suddenly. Evolution theory is a lie from Satan. God created man and his kind, and the animals and their kinds.
abdeefggh: 1. Isheri Olofin - Olofin Ogunfunminire Awogunjoye and his followers from Ife. They also founded Ebute Metta and Iddo. 2. Eko (Lagos Island) - Known originally as Ereko (Farmstead), it was the site of a pepper farm (Oko Iganran) founded by Awori prince Aromire from iddo. 3. Iddo Island - Olofin Ogunfunminire, it was founded by Aromire and his wife Ajaye. 4. Iru/Victoria island - Oniru Origefon traditionally part of the idejo land owning children of Ogunfunminire. 5. Ikate/Elegushi - Elegushi Kusenla (Another member of the idejo class). 6. Otto/Mainland - Pawu Ogboja Oloto. 7. Otto Awori - Aregi Ope, Iworu Oloja and Odofin, all part of the original Awori stream from Ife. 8. ijora/Orile Iganmu - Kueji/Isikokoojora. 9. Ajiran - Ojomu Ejo/Mogisho, brother to Olofin Ogunfunminire. 10. Ikoyi - Onikoyi Adeyemi/Efunluyi. 11. Ebute Ileke (Lekki) - Lootu, son of Labolo, grandson of Oba Alara of Ilara Epe. 12. Ibeju - Abeju Agbeduwa originally from ife through the coastal Ijebu area. 13. Ajah - Chief Olumegbon and settled by Ogunsemo and Ojupon from Ife. 14. Ojo - Esugbemi and Aina Aseba. 15. Iba - Àyoká Oniba ekun. 16. Mushin - Oduabore/Aileru. 17. Isolo - Akinbaye/Alagbeji. 18. Ejigbo - Fadu onimewon/Olojan. 19. Ikotun - Ategbo Olukotun. 20. Egbe - Kudaki/Akeja. 21. Oshodi/isolo - Olusi onigbesa/Agedegudu. 22. Ijegun - Ajibade Agbojojoye. 23. Igando - Eseba onimaba/Oko osi/Eshidana. 24. Eleko - Sobokunren. 25. Akesan - Ominuye/Aina odofin. 26. Ogba (Ikeja) - Owoeni and hisson Ashade. Ashade married an Otta woman, Ebo Aweri, who came with her cousin, Madarikan. 27. Ogudu - Amosu from Ile ife. 28. Ikeja - Baale Olo with Aworis people from Otta. The name is derived from the Akeja deity of the Oniyanru. 29. Aguda/Surulere - Gboin /Odunbure. 30. Itire - Ota Onitire. 31. Ilasa - Abere ije 32. Onigbongbo - Ikunyasun Awusefa. 33. Irewe - Edinni/Ojube/Oluwen. 34. Ikosi Kosofe - Aina ejo from Isheri. 35. Idimu - Eletu Apataiko (Isa Aperindeja Olugoke). 36. Ilara Epe - Tunse/Sabolujo/Alara Adejuwon/ 37. Ibonwon - Soginna from Ijebu. 38. Ketu (kosofe) - Balogun oyero from Ketu-Ile, Benin republic. 39. Ojokoro - Oniojugbele Adeitan from Ota. 40. Ikaare - Ikeja Ajija. 41. Orile Agege - Efunmikan. 42. Obele odan (Surulere) - Alago asalu. 43. Ikorodu - Oga from Epe Sagamu. The name (Oko Odu) means the Oduvegetable farm. 44. Epe - Uraka from Ife joined by Isein & Modu of Omu. they settled under a Popoka tree, which became Poka township. Alaro (a woman) later joined. Then Ramope, Ogunmude and Oloja Shagbafara joined from Ijebu ode. 45. Odo Ayandelu - Ayandelu from Ile ife. 46. Agbowa - Olayeni Otutubiosun son of Owa Otutubiosun who was Awujale, and grandson of Lafogido of Ife. 47. Igbogbo - Oshinbokunren. 48. Meiran - Oroja from Ota. 49. Imota (Umu ota) - Oloja Adekoya Ofirigidi and Ranodu from Ijebu. 48. Owode Apa badagy - Oganogbodo-Akereyaso/Asese Alapa. 50. Ajido - Aholu gbangla sagbe Aho from Hwela Jakin kingdom Allada. 51. Oworoshoki - Ajumogijo. 52. Iworo/Imeke - Ajagunosin/Adejori isejoye. 53. Badagry - Egun people from Popo, Allada, Wida and Weme who fled the wars of the Dahomey conquest of the coastal kingdoms of Allada and Igelefe(Ouidah) to come settle on Apa lands to the east. 54. Ejinrin - Baloofi Ogunmude founded Ejinrin around 1619. 55. Eputu Lekki - Ogunfayo. 56. Orimedu Ibeju/Lekki - Ladejobi left Ife to Okegun then crossed the Lekki Lagoon. 57. Akodo & Iwerekun - Oyemade Ogidigan, father of Oniwonlu. 58. Offin - Liyangu of Ife. 59. Ibonwon - Soginna from Ijebu ode. 60. Ijede - Ajede. 61. Magbon Ilado - Onafula & Ogundeko from Orugbo.| 62. Orimedu - Ladejobi from Ife
If u are honest, your list will show the one even Lagos Oba attested that Benin founded. Besides, things do not work like that. Any family can start a population on any land. Just like Igbos are the one opening up some places in Ago Palace. But there are always powers lording it over those area, be it already settled or still virgin land. After Oyo empires decline, Benin became the power in this region. It had a colony in Lagos, and installed a king there. There were ofcourse many other leaders and paternal heads of families, even king like the King of ilara and other numerous Baales. But the focal power of Lagos was on the Lagos island. And the power was with the King that the Benin imposed on the people of that area. They were Benins vassals and Colonies. Even the king in the main town of Epe was part of this royal house from Benin. This is the fact of History. Benin lord it over the Lagos island area known as Eko. And Ereko u mentioned is a modern falsehood. Eko is a Benin word. There are many other Eko in Benin today
Culture › Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by thinkmoney(m): 7:39pm On Dec 06, 2023
