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Lanceslot:
Its plain stupid how Nigerians makes this god of men rich while they wallow in poverty.

It is stated in the Op that a member bought the car.Tell me how a member 'wallowing in poverty' will buy such a car?
I'm not supporting enrichment by pastors at the expense of members but quit the hating.
There are some members of churches that are BIG..................believe dat.

Ubenedictus:
you must believe all glory in heaven his equal?

No,some will receive greater glory for their works.

On top stealing biscuit?This is abuse na.Perverts

gemale:
I embrace the fact that there is no marriage in heaven; no husbands & wives because scripture doesn't lie however don't add your bit to make it look like it's included in scripture. There's a family in heaven, the family of God. The human family system is an imperfect caricature of that family model. You don't stop being a son of God just because you are in heaven. Heaven is our family home. We are fully United with God & all our brothers & sisters in Christ. Look at genesis 6:2. Who were these mentioned "sons of God" who took the daughters of men as wives? Were they not angels? So you see that even angels are sons of God. Read revelation 12. See verse 17, the remnants of the woman's seed keep God's commandments & have the testimony of Jesus Christ. That's the mark of a true son/daughter of Mary. Now let's go to verse 26-27 of the passage you quoted. God is introduced as the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob to Moses. Even at that time, these 3 were long dead yet look at the 1st 2 words of that sentence "i am" not "i was". So if these 3 were dead, why does Jesus say that God is the God of the living not the dead? Then surely if i reason as you do, then God isn't supposed to be the God of these 3 because they were long dead. It has to be that way unless God contradicts Himself, which is impossible. Therefore, the dead Jesus referred to must cannot mean those who have left this world. It likely means those who didn't serve God. Scripture shouldn't be read literally because our Lord spoke most times figuratively. The word of God is very deep & meditation is needed. Also revelation by the Holy Spirit is needed. The word without the Spirit is just letters & the letter killeth but the word is Spirit & it is the Spirit that quickens. Don't be a lettered Christian. Death isn't the end of life; it's the beginning of life eternal or death eternal, depending on whether one truly believed in Jesus Christ. Hence if Mary was that influential on earth, how much in heaven?

Awww,your words are so true but you are like a student wearing a neat school uniform in [the wrong school.[/b]You didn't take the time to pay attention to what I was pointing out.
I NEVER said we are not sons of God in heaven or that we are not going to be alive to God.
My emphasis was on the fact that we are going to be like 'angels in heaven' just like Jesus said and that there will not be a father/son relationship or mother/son relationship or husband/wife relationship.
That means Mary plays no 'Mother' relationship with Jesus and DOES not influence Him like a mother would here on earth.There is NO 'mother of God' as Catholics say.
Mary and as many as serve the Lord and do His will will be influential in heaven.

The girl don yellow finish.

Melodyz:
She feels they already have an understanding about not being together anymore

She should make it formal.She will be in a good position to move on with her life then.

She should get a proper divorce and she can choose to do whatever she wants.

ladman:
On the contrary, it means the bible with all its quotations is filled with so many disagreements that it is always open to different interpretations. If you continue to hammer on your point, you are just like a drunkard who drinks from an emptied bottle, but claims he is enjoying every sip.

Goodluck with that.

So they say when they lack the understanding thereof.

freshboi88:
Jesus doesnt have his earthly body, and Thomas was able to feel his flesh, his hands, his sides....my friend go and hide urself in shame..ur trying to defend d indefensible just shows how ignorant u r....

He was a man on the earth and appeared with the same body to His disciples most importantly that they might know He indeed rose again!
Think before you quote na!

ladman:
It does not still prove anything.

You mean you don't understand it.

freshboi88:
Don't??...... Man can't speak good english, no wonder he argues like an ignorant illiterate

Poor you.I wrote in pidgin English.You don't know how an android phone works and that it was auto-correct that changed it?
You're not intelligent and enlightened afterall.

freshboi88:
E get were person go defend nonsense reach, e go just be like mumu...no insult intended

You mean the whole thing don turn you mumu?

ladman:
Thorpido get experience o, thorpido don go heaven come back to reach this conclusion.

Search scriptures.
When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."1 Corinthians 15:54

Do you understand what the above means?

freshboi88:
Heresy Jesus rose with his body.....wen d apostles got yo the tomb....he body was no longer der...be fooling urself with ur false teaching

Dey dia dey satisfy yourself.Nobody has an earthly body in heaven.It is a mortal body that cannot inherit immortality.

freshboi88:
So Jesus on earth is different from Jesus in heaven

Different is realms.
On the earth,Jesus had a body.Now He dwells as a Spirit.Spirits don't have mothers.

freshboi88:
I didn't c NY scripture that backed ur crooked interpretation of been mother of Jesus ending wen she died.....show me were d bible said tht

Proverbs says 'get (spiritual)understanding'.
Go back again and read what I wrote.Before you do ask God to give you understanding.If you read and still don't understand,ask Him for understanding again before you sleep this night.
Re-read it again tomorrow.

The problem here is 'understanding'.

PaddyX:
But Jesus is God, isn't he. There is no separation of God and man in Jesus because he is fully man and fully God.
Luke 1 vs 43 spells it out clearly when Elizabeth, filled with the Holy Spirit said
Why should the mother of my LORD come to visit me.
If the Holy Spirit, speaking through Elizabeth can say this, then who are you to say that Mary is not he mother of God?

Jesus is God in glory.The problem is not about who Jesus is.
Mary was the mother of Jesus(the man) while He was on the earth.
Now(in heaven)Mary PLAYS NO ROLE as the mother of Jesus.Read Mark 12 to see what Jesus says about people in heaven.There is no wife,no husband,no mother or son.
There is no Scriptural basis for Mary to be the 'mother of God'.She was the mother of Jesus (the man) while He was on the earth.

freshboi88:
This is ur own interpretation....pls show me were his nonsense u r saying is in scripture

Read what I posted up there. I gave you scriptures to back up.Abi u need glasses?

The bible says scriptures is nonsense to some people.

Proffdada:
who was on the throne in heaven when Jesus was on earth? If Jesus is God why does He have to sit on the right hand side of God? Where in the Bible Jesus called Himself God? Why did God call Jesus His begotten Son? Support you claim with bible evidence and not what you think.

The Father was on the throne.
The term 'right hand' is figurative.It's like saying my right hand man.There is no throne on the right side.See what Jesus said in Revelations 3:21
To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
See where Jesus sits? In the Father's throne.

freshboi88:
Your ignorance is legendary...First u say God refers to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as living and yet u refer to Mary as dead....can u reconcile this

She is alive unto God.They who dwell in Heaven are alive.
Mary shed her physical body here and that is where her role as the woman that gave birth to Jesus ended.Quit sentiments.

gemale:
Mary interceded at the wedding at Cana, Galilee & Jesus obeyed even though it wasn't His time. What I noticed was that even when Jesus stated that it wasn't His time, Mary knew that He would help hence she told the servants to do whatever Jesus told them. She knew who Jesus was & long believed in Him without asking for signs & wonders to convince her. The catholic church doesn't teach that Mary answers prayers; God does. She only intercedes (similar to what pentecostals call standing in the gap). I'm catholic & never have i heard us say "in Mary's name we pray". We pray in Jesus name or "through Jesus Christ our Lord". Finally John 1:1 says "in the beginning was the word & the word was with God & the word was God" verse 14 says "& the word was made flesh (became man) & dwelt among us". The word that was God became man. Who was that man? Jesus Christ. Who was His mother? Mary. The only way you can have issues with that is if you say Jesus isn't God. In the apostles' Creed we recite in every mass, we affirm our belief in Jesus Christ "true God & true man". Take some advice. Learn to be humble in knowledge. You don't know it all. The books of proverbs says to get understanding in all your getting. The problem a lot of pentecostals have is that they read the surface & think that is all. No, in depth study & research is needed most times by numerous individuals. That's why the field of theology exists. Yes the Holy Spirit gives revelations but an ill prepared mind might misinterpret the revelation. Regular mastication & chewing the cud of the word is needed. Grow more chambers in your spiritual stomach instead of just being monogastric.

Refuse to be ignorant!
When Mary dwelth on the earth,she played the role of Jesus'(the man) mother and could physically relate with Him and intercede or advise as it were.Jesus has been called to glory and Mary also dead.In heaven,it's a different ball game.
Jesus taught about heavenly order when some Sadducees came asking Him about marriage in heaven.See below;

Then the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to him with a question. 19 “Teacher,, “Moses wrote for us that if a man’s brother dies and leaves a wife but no children, the man must marry the widow and raise up offspring for his brother. 20 Now there were seven brothers. The first one married and died without leaving any children. 21 The second one married the widow, but he also died, leaving no child. It was the same with the third. 22 In fact, none of the seven left any children. Last of all, the woman died too. 23 At the resurrection[c] whose wife will she be, since the seven were married to her?”

24 Jesus replied, “Are you not in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God? 25 When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 26 Now about the dead rising—have you not read in the Book of Moses, in the account of the burning bush, how God said to him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’[d]? 27 He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!” Mark 12 vs 18-27

Take note of the part in bold.People in heaven do not play roles of wives or husbands.Similarly,they do not play roles of mothers or sons.
Mary plays NO ROLE of mother to Jesus in Heaven.Like you said,'get understanding' according to the book of Proverbs.
Quit emotions,sentiments or outright ignorance and embrace Scriptures!Don't be like Muslims who think of wives and virgins in heaven.It's a different order in heaven.

kinesis:
Pls read Colossians 2: 9. That sums up who Jesus really is

For in him dwelleth the fullness of the godhead bodily.
The problem is not about who Jesus is here.It's about Jesus(the Spirit of God in heavenly glory) having a mother.

Why?
This is too much of a blow on the woman and the three innocent children.
Suicide was not your solution to your challenges man.

Maybe you should take a break from him till he sorts himself out and you also figure out what you really want.
You left your own career just so you could be with him and it happened so fast?
This relationship of yours might be a violent one in the future.Seems you will both be dealing with anger issues.

habbi080:
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I hàve listened to you guys many times.
Beliefs or sentiments are not the same as bible backed scriptures

NkayTiana:
my cousin laboured 3days ,she still delivered by herself cos she laboured that three days without the water bursting

The doctor attending to her should have broken her water na.

He can't chose the path his daughter goes.

You could try a court of arbitration though it might be a long journey.I think you should forget about that money but ensure you don't release money any further to him.
Your father is highly irresponsible,I wonder what your mom is still doing with him.
If not that you're 17yrs and a bit too young,I would have asked you to move out and stay on your own.

dingbang:
Please I need more reasons... Or is it only Mary issue that forms the bedrock of Catholics not seen as bible believers?

Purgatory.No scripture backs that up.

Dnaz:
Pentecostals are not bible believing, they are pastor believing churches

Sentimental statement.What the heck is 'pentecostal' anyway?The day the disciples received the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost,the disciples themselves were not celebrating Pentecost.

There's no scriptural background in the bible that says Mary can answer or make supplications in prayer.The Bible made it clear you pray to God in the Name of Jesus.
There's nothing like mother of God.God has no mother. No scripture in the bible backs that up.Mary was the mother of Jesus the man while He was on the earth.

Crazy military.Why shoot indiscriminately?