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It depends on your level of spiritual growth.I will recommend either the Amplified version or the NIV.

Geewan: If Adam was god, jesus was god and thorpido is god I have no problem with that.

yes we are because God made it so.His design is to create us in His own image.
However we were all born with the human life which had to do with an intercourse.Jesus was however not born as a product of intercourse.His life came from God and that means He was not born with human life.
Even the quran says so.
The bible says,'and the light shineth in the darkness and the darkness comprehended it not'(John1:5).

It can't be that bad.Some of the gums are good for the teeth and help to keep the mouth fresh.I think one should just get a sugar-free gum and also avoid the very cheap ones.Those ones wey dey be like rubber.Also don't swallow the gum.

[quote author=mondi_cheeks]It's her body...wat is ur problem [/quote]It's her body ko,it's her engine ni.Mscheeeew.

marianazme: I've chekd dat already, d thing with exercise is dat fat gets replaced with muscle n I dnt want that, dnt want 2 look like body builder.

You will do exercises that work on just your pectoral(chest) muscles so u don't have to build muscles all over your body.

She'll get real busy over time and if she doesn't want to fail,then she will either do the event planning thing just part-time or leave it till when she is on holidays.

Even demons can appear as angels of light.

tintingz: I guess Adam should also be call God/god
He was not even brea;st feeded like the bible god

And you don't know Adam was god?

He should......




If na MUGU.

20 is not too many.

tiarabubu: Dont mind Tbaba and co who try all sorts of linguistic, conjural imaginative gymnastics to force Prophet Muhammad into the very Bible they deride!










Check out what the Quran says of Jesus' conception;

And Mary the daughter of ´Imran, who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into (her body) of Our spirit; and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and of His Revelations, and was one of the devout (servants). Al-Quran 66:12 Yusuf Ali Translation

And Mary, daughter of ´Imran, whose body was chaste, therefor We breathed therein something of Our Spirit. And she put faith in the words of her Lord and His scriptures, and was of the obedient. Pitckhall Translation


So God himself "breathed in" HIS SPIRIT which became Jesus. What does that tell you of the special relationship between Jesus and the Father?

And how did he ascend? The Quran says Nay Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power Wise. 4: 158 Yusuf Ali.

Since he came from God's spirit he was raised back to God abi? straight forward right?

Not so fast; the contrary tafsirs, other conflicting verses, the opinion of Muslim scholars and the excuse of the impossibility of translating full Arabic to English will make your head spin. Just wait for the torrents that is to come because of this my piece

Thank God Jesus is not justified by anything else so the Quranic version doesn't mean anything for our beliefs.

Jesus was born of God's Spirit according to the quran and yet His life is not divine?They wanto accept the part they want and then do without the rest.
For the muslims who desire to know;
Jesus had a mission on the earth which had to do with the redemption of man.He was to carry out that mission as a man and for man.He had to be born as a man while having divine birth.The life of a child is from the father while the mother gives the body.If Jesus had had life from an earthly father,He would not have been qualified so God sent His Spirit.
It's amazing that there is no definite salvation in Islam.When a muslim dies,he will still require salvation even in the grave,many praying for his salvation.
I hope u'll understand God's divine plan for you before u leave the earth.

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tbaba1234: i. Jesus is nothing like Moses, the only similarity is that they are Jewish prophets (Peace be upon them)...

ii. If it was referring to the Israelites, it should have said from 'your brethen' meaning moses (Peace be upon him)...Not using the collective pronoun suggesting a people/race. Either ways, if you insist it is from the Israelites them we are still waiting for that prophet because Jesus(Peace be upon him) does not fit the bill. If moses predicted Jesus (Peace be upon him), it is certainly not this verse.

The prophesy fits the Prophet Mohammad (Peace be upon him) like a glove. You should be sincere.

Being born of divine birth does not suggest divinity, otherwise Adam can be called divine. In fact he deserves the title more.

Since you say just one verse, let's look at a chapter.

More Prophesies (The whole of Isaiah 42)

The Old Testament prophesises the coming of a Prophet from Arabia who would be from the descendants of Kedar. The verses of Isaiah 42 describe the coming of a Prophet who God refers to as ‘my Messenger’ (Isaiah 42:19). This Messenger would be from ‘the villages that Kedar inhabits’ (Isaiah 42:11), which means that the Messenger would emerge from Arabia since that’s where the villages of the descendants of Kedar lived according to Isaiah 21:13-17. This Messenger would give ‘judgment’, ‘light’ and ‘Law’ to the ‘Gentiles’ (Isaiah 42:1-4). Gentiles is a term referring to the non-Jews. This Messenger would be a ‘man of war’ who will first be persecuted and then will fight and defeat idol worshippers (Isaiah 42:13-17).

The book of Genesis tells us that Abraham left his wife (Hagar) and Ishmael to settle in ‘Paran’ (Genesis 21:21), which according to historians is in Arabia. Ishmael grew up and settled in Arabia and had twelve sons one of whom was called ‘Kedar’ (Genesis 25:13). Isaiah 21:13-17 confirms that the descendants of Kedar were in Arabia. It is well known that Muhammad (pbuh) was a direct descendant of Kedar.

In the Davis Dictionary of the Bible it is stated that Kedar is ‘…A tribe descended from Ishmael … The people of Kedar were Pliny’s Cedrai, and from their tribe Mohammed ultimately arose’[John D. Davis ,Davis Dictionary of the Bible].

There were Jewish tribes in Medina (the city that the Muhammad (pbuh) migrated to) who had settled there because they were awaiting the arrival of a Prophet. In fact, Ben Shalom the Chief Rabbi of Medina embraced Muhammad (pbuh) as the Prophet whose arrival was foretold in their scriptures. (Read more: http://www.onereason.org/the-other-jesus/muhammad-in-the-bible/)

ii. When muslims say the bible is corrupted, it is an open secret, read the revised standard version to see how many verses are considered later additions to manuscripts. God still left the pointers to the truth in your books, so maybe those who can reason will...

There are more prophesies... You are the one that has to be sincere.

iii. Even if the prophet was literate, and the Quran came through him, It is impossible for that book to come from a man. It is incredible stuff when you study it. Absolutely mind-blowing. The fact that it came from a source that was unlettered makes it beyond mind blowing.

I know once you make up your mind to believe what you want to believe,it is difficult to change.Jesus said,'no man cometh unto Me except the Father which hath sent Me draw him'(John4:44).Again He said,'Every man therefore that hath heard,and hath learned of the Father,cometh unto me.(vs 45).Once your mind is made up that it is prophet Muhammed then u won't be convinced except by God.If u say the Scripture does not fit Jesus but fits prophet Muhammed perfectly,so be it for a season.
You say having divine birth does not mean divinity?So what is it then?Adam indeed was called the son of God.Jesus' birth is greater than that of Adam.Adam is called a living soul while Jesus is called a quickening Spirit.
Isaiah 42 u speak about indeed talks about Kedar but there's nowhere it is stated that a prophet is raised from among them.
The so called corruption you speak about concerning the Bible,is just an excuse muslims use.
There are many versions of the Bible and these were done to give better understanding cos the original was in Hebrew and Greek.There's no doubt that may leave room for corruption but that is why u have study bibles to help.

What's with exposing sagging titteys by Annie?Why are some women in this generation having shrinking brains?
The cost of a Prado jeep and a 30man delegation can do sooooooooo much for the poor citizens of the state.Public officers sabi waste public funds!

Thank you tiarabubu.@ tbaba1234.You spoke about being sincere so we'll follow that line.You seem to be someone who can listen unlike many muslims here.
First of all,u say prophet Muhammed was unlettered,but it is well known that in the course of his trades,he met oftentimes with Jews and early Christians.Don't u think he would have learn't many things from them?Be sincere.
Concerning the prophecy in Deuteronomy18:18,that prophecy was about Jesus.He was called a prophet because the revelation Moses had and other prophets is that a man sent from God is a prophet.They did not and could not have a greater revelation than that at that time.You will notice the p in Prophet is in capital letter.Also the Prophet was to come 'from among their brethen',he was to be a Jew.
When Jesus came He mentioned it;
'Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father:there is one that accuseth you,even Moses,in whom ye trust.For had ye believed Moses,ye would have believed me:FOR HE WROTE OF ME.(John5:45-46).When Jesus asked the disciples what the people thought of Him,they said some said he was a prophet.Jesus replied and said yes,and more than a prophet.

It amazes me when u muslims accept Jesus was born of divine birth and yet deny His divinity.You just said he didn't have a father so where did His life come from?It came from God and that 'life' in original Greek Scripture is 'Zoe' meaning the God life.Jesus said,For as the Father hath life in Himself;so hath He given to the Son to have life in Himself(John5:26).Anyway the bible says 'having eyes but not see'.Also the bible says'ever learning but not able to come to the knowledge of the Truth'(2Timothy3:7).How come you discredit the Bible and then pick some verses in it as your valid proof?Does that not show insincerity and inconsistency?The same Bible full of 'stories' is now proof of prophet Muhammed's status!The Isaiah 29 u quoted,did u read to understand?Instead of just picking a verse,if u had started from verse 10,u would have had a better understanding.That Scripture was not a prophecy about any prophet but a proverb!Moreover was Jesus too not unlearned?
You spoke about being sincere,didn't you?Why don't u open your heart to God so he can show u His light.I pray your heart finds His true Light.(John1:9).
Ma' Salaam.

The sword must have been presented to him.It is a ceremonial sword.

The failure rate is very high except u are very disciplined and skilled in it.There is something called pre-ejaculation and it has been found to contain fluid cells which can impregnate a woman.Pre-ejaculation is fluid released before the real climax.The best way to use withdrawal method is to combine it with the 'safe' period to reduce chances of pregnancy.
You can try other birth control methods.

senator2k9: How can a RED CAP nd'igbo chief like me b washing my wifes undies Smh

*in that thick igbo accent*

tintingz: ^^ And how come the jews didnt believe in the coming ''Messiah''(Christ Jesus) till now

Because they lacked discernment and were not able to recognise Him when he came
Prophet Isaiah prophesied that when He will come they will not believe Him.

'He is despised and rejected of men;a man of sorrows,and acquainted with grief:and we hid as it were our faces from him;he was despised,and we esteemed him not'.(Isaiah 53:3).
Do a search and open your heart to God and He will show you many things.My prayer for you Tintingz is God's prayer for all men:

'For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;Who will have all men to be saved,and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.For there is One God,and one mediator between God and men,the man Christ Jesus'(1 Timothy2:3-5)

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Find a bible based church in Awka and with the assistance and approval of your pastor in Lagos,u can have it done there.

Prophet Muhammed was born many years after Jesus was born.
When Jesus came,He gave His message and many who heard Him recorded it.Many prophets who also came before Him had visions and prophecies of Him.The Bible was already in existence before prophet Muhammed was born.
When prophet Muhammed was born,he came in contact with the Jews and early Christians and gained knowledge about Jesus and the prophets through them.
When eventually he came up with the quran,his messages were simply based on what he believed and chose to record.The quran only gives u account of what prophet Muhammed's beliefs were which were in contrast to what was recorded by the earlier Christians.
You can chose to believe the quran's account of Jesus which is different from the Jews' and early Christians' account.
The question is if prophet's Muhammed account is the one to believe,how come it is not written anywhere that the earlier prophets had visions or prophecies of him?How come Jesus didn't have prophecies or revelations concerning him?How come no other prophets had messages linked to him except his(prophet Muhammed)own account?

Obijulius: Correct me if I am wrong, but yorubas don't seem to regard life.

Don't bring tribalism here.Non-yorubas are worse.

gidiMonsta: Correction: Most Polio, Meningitis victims are Aboki Muslims.



Too bad this 'true god' failed to equip you with a working brain.

Too bad u're so dumb u can't do a little research.I work in a hospital and I know.

Most hospital patients are muslims.
There is something about Jesus made available to them by the True God but they deny it albeit in ignorance.

Morayo747: Can't believe peeps are believing this nonsense..pregnancy confirmed in less than 3 weeks. Rubbish.

Are u a medic and u are sure u can't confirm pregnancy in 3wks or u are just guessing?Do u know u can do a scan and pick foetal heartbeat in 4 wks?
Yes a blood test can give u a positive result in 3wks.