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WhoDeyHause:
Slump in form for how many years? Egbon leave agenda fess several Chelsea fans have been giving instances where rudiger fvcked up, either in premier league, fa cup, champions league for us under three different managers to show his inconsistencies till he finally became a beast under tuchel's system, screenshots from past seasons when fans called him kpon kpon or corporate shoe.
Does that mean all of them have a agenda against Rudi? Or you watched Chelsea games more than those fans then?

Maguire in Man United is much aligned that even if he has a good game, it will never be acknowledged.

Na herd mentality dey worry most of us here. Once a popular moniker here is against a particular player, you will see droves of monikers throw away their own football brain and follow what that popular moniker says. Herd mentality.

Thiago Silva is generally respected here. Does it mean he doesn't have a compilation of dip in form, under different managers? Infact name your best defender in football history and I will show you screenshot of his mistakes.

Rudiger makes mistake like every other footballer, but the difference is that people here watch him to scrutinise his game and look for a slightest opportunity to type "corporate shoe".

Abi you no dey here when Airmark and Co continued criticising him in his early Madrid days?

nateevs:
I think this is one appointment where there's unanimous siddon look mode from fans.

Exactly.

I desperately wish and pray he surprise all of us. The only positive I am clinging to is that he is Italian. If we get at least one trophy next season, won't be a bad campaign.

afrodoc2:
You guys also went for a bald manager.

No be by apari o. All bald heads are not equal.

Na true my brother... The blue and red side of Manchester dey really show us say apari dey and apari still dey

amodu:
You can say that again.

Italian coaches have also excelled in European competitions recently:

Mancini - Euro
Gasperini - Europa
Ancelloti - 2 UCL

Exactly.

airmark:
His legs are not straight.

And who says Enzo cannot straight his legs?

odizeey:
Another coach waiting to add "sacked" to his CV

After some trophies added to the cabinet. That's the most important thing.

amodu:
A possession based coach will bin Gallagher without having a second look owing to his obvious lack in ball usage.

Aptly, the duo of Enzo and Caicedo takes the first 2 midfield slots for reason you've highlighted while Palmer completes the midfield.

Clamour for the trio of Enzo, Caicedo and Lavia in midfield is just like having Enzo, Caicedo and Gallagher, it will not yield desirable result. It's important to have a very creative outlet in the midfield and none of those four can provide needed creativity.

Having Lavia, Chukwuemeka, Santos, and Casadei as reserve is fine, while we dispose Gallagher and Ugochukwu.

It is important to note that Maresca worked with Lavia in City academy.

Lavia might be solidly in his plans. So we could see the Enzo, Caicedo, Lavia midfield.

airmark:
I hope he won't be a mumu like Poch and go into the season with Jackson as our main striker.

Who says a coach cannot improve a player?

According to you guys, Tuchel improved Rudiger. Why can't Enzo improve Jackson?

Welcome to Stamford Bridge, Enzo Maresca.

Italian coaches do well here. Think Conte, think Di Matteo, think Ancelotti.

May you do well like your Italian predecessors.

kingBolton:
Can't really remember exact monickers but I remember clearly people attributing our defensive improvements from lampards tenure to tuchel's community defense. Not only rudiger, even Thiago was included in the Agenda then.

You can't say that you don't remember at least 3 or 4 names from the "most" monikers.

Strange.

airmark:
Better than Rudiger that was on AWOL.

Even A40 with limited football knowledge, couldn't help but shout the name of Rudiger's saviour.

Not better than Huth on the bench.

airmark:
At least I saw Terry in almost all these your pictures. Again, where was Rudiger with this acre of space that Adeyemi failed to utilize?

Karim could even decide to drink pure water before rounding Courtois, with no Rudiger in sight.

Courtois has delivered Madrid consecutively now in Ucl finals.

It's useless being in the frame but not giving any atom of protection to ur GK.

Terry in those frames is as good as Robert Huth sitting on the bench that match day.

kingBolton:
Rewriting history in our front...
If you check well most of the guys hailing Rudiger now, attributed his improvement to tuchel's community def.

Name names.

You said most.... Who are they?

raumdeuter:
Bald guy who went to Madrid from Everton

And was offloaded back to Everton after a season

airmark:
As usual, you didn't watch the Ucl final.

Where was your great and omnipresent Rudiger?

As usual, your problem is nitpicking.

Where was the best CB in our history, Terry, in these images?

He must be wacky for allowing Cech to make these unreal saves.

Ibime:
You got no excuse blaming the manager in a team in the top 4. Lampard game favoured attackers and more burden was placed on DM and defenders in one-2-duels, however likewise Tammy Abraham, Pulisic, Giroud and the attackers had their best spells for Chelsea under Lampard

You should find another excuse for Rudiger who was wack under Conte and wack under Sarri (you think we've forgotten the 6-0, 4-0 and other hammerings we received when Sarri tried to be adventurous?). If we are being honest, we don't know if Rudiger is in the clear as a defender in an attacking setup because Real Madrid sit 4 CMs in front of their defence

It's no longer 3 ATB protecting Rudiger. It's now 4 CMs in front of him

Very soon, it will be 2 GKs behind him.

Agenda must agend...

A40:
Na him way. I'm used to it by now. All that matters is he prove him wrong before leaving Chelsea and has joined Madrid to continue proving them wrong

Imagine if Rudiger didn't succeed in Madrid... What we would have been hearing here.

airmark:
I doubt if you actually know Jehovah.

Even against Dortmund, Courtois had to save the leaky defence numerous time and many thanks to Karim's profligacy in front of goal too.

Imagine talk.

So goal keeper making saves mean his defence is wack? That means Terry and Carvalho must be the wackest CBs in Chelsea history, because we all agree Cech is the best GK to wear Chelsea gloves considering the constant saves he makes, some near impossible sef..

afrodoc2:
Ha. Ok i was talking about the 90s.

Oh OK..

I was referring to late 90s to early 2000s

afrodoc2:
Only once. In 1996. I can't remember another Juve vs Madrid in that era apart from the 1998 final that Madrid won. In 1999 Shevchenko and Rebrov beat Madrid.

Juve beat Madrid in 2003 and 2005.

Unless that period is a different era from late 90s in your pov.

For me, I was classifying all those times as an era. Juve was bossing Madrid upandan.

Edit: 2008/09 Juve even nack Madrid home and away in the group stage.

Ibime:
Man be quiet. Disasi probably blaming Poch likewise yet we can see big differences between Disasi and Chalobah performance under the same Poch. Poch defence is much more porous than Lampards ever was

Rudiger aka kpon kpon shoe aka Corporate Shoe had his reputation long before Lampard came to Chelsea. All of the below are from regular Chelsea watchers during Sarri era

We don't need a casual observer with agenda against Airmark to tell us what we watch weekly. Rest.

Your screenshot is herd mentality at its most perfect definition.

Rudiger is almost singled out for criticism here. No be here again? We have other defenders that makes mistakes here and there but we don't pick on them like we do against Rudiger.

This is NOT agenda against Airmark, rather it's agenda AGAINST Rudiger.

Imagine criticising him him on how he run! but refusing to acknowledge him when he put in a MOTM performance in a final.

It's interesting no one is talking of community defending protecting him again. Now it's that he improved under Tuchel and didn't look back again. The truth is coming out small small.

afrodoc2:
Hmmm, i think it was even and Madrid beat them when it mattered most. The thing was that Madrid was not regularly there while Juve was there year in year out. It was only later that we found out that they were injecting the players with boosters.

Some of us suspected after the 1996 Final with Ajax sha. The aggression of some of those players seemed demonic. E sure me die say Torricelli and Padovano had more steroids that hemoglobin in their blood that night.

True at the bolded. But in between that final loss to Madrid in '98, Juve knocked them out 3 consecutive times.

I remember that period, even if Madrid win first leg, Juve always come back in second leg to knock them off..

Juve was Madrid's bogey team them.

A40:
Read that article again

https://breakingthelines.com/player-analysis/the-resurgence-of-antonio-rudiger-under-thomas-tuchel-and-a-new-adventure-at-real-madrid/

I will take that submission over biased takes about Rudiger here.

All signs point to the fact that he had his proper stretch of poor form mainly under Lampard. I don't have time for regular jejune arguments over mistakes that players make on game to game basis.

He was appearing and playing regularly under Conte and Sarri when fit. Again he had no real problems till your guy Lampard came along. These are the facts

Ibime will never agree with you once he has formed an opinion on a player.

Airmark own be say even if the L dey choke am for throat, e go still dey stubborn.

afrodoc2:
Might be my 2nd best day as a United supporter. Juve were everybody's bogeyman in the late 90s. You had to beat Juve to win the Champions League. That was the unwritten rule then.

Madrid see pepper for Juve hand that period

WhoDeyHause:
What of in the premier league where we didn't even finish in top 4, champions league nko, how we even won that final was a surprise cause some of us didn't think we will in that terrible season. He was even worse under conte.

So Rudiger was to blame for all this instances you just mentioned? Rudiger was responsible for us not making top 4?

A40:
This one is cap. Same Rudiger that was excellent in FA Cup Final

No be una website be this? Abi you wan dey whine me ni?

Rudiger was a solid performer. He had the odd bad run and everyone jumped on him cos they thought he had your darling Lampard fired

What are the odds now that Lampard is unemployed the players preferred over him are struggling but Rudiger is the only one thriving and winning major titles

Rudiger is already disliked in this street so any mistake he did was bloated.

He was decent all through his time in Chelsea. Bad run of form happens to anyone. But because it's Rudiger, he is always under the microscope.

Under Tuchel, the excuse was community defending. Question is, does Ancelotti play community defending too? How come Rudiger is excelling there?

raumdeuter:
Check all those he compared to Rudiger

Kloulibali in Saudi after failing in Chelsea, Manolas in relegation team Salernitania from one Saudi team, Zouma in West Ham after failing at Chelsea

While Rudiger won CL with Chelsea, won CL with Madrid

Airmark is the antiMidas, everything he touches turn to shitt

You just know how Hummels will end yesterday given how airmark

The jinx is real

hensben:
Bale and modric changed Real Madrid to ucl dominance not cr7. He came 2009 and for four years they won nothing until bale and Modric came 2013 but his fan we want us to believe he carried Real Madrid just as they are saying he carried Portugal when it was Nani and Eder that did the job. Overrated bumps that stat pad against lower teams be it club or country.

Are you talking of this Bale or is there another Bale I don't know of?

You never cease to amaze me.

airmark:
2 Ucl titles, 3 short of Lucas Vazquez who has 5 Ucl titles.

No allow me whack spatula for your head o ... Have you ever compared Vazquez to Rudiger before?

After we finish with Manolas, we come to Koulibaly.

airmark:
2 Ucl titles, 3 short of Lucas Vazquez who has 5 Ucl titles.

So how many does Manolas have?

Na wetin I wan check be that...

airmark:
Because I don't have time to explain basic things that will still fly over your head.

How many UCL does Antonio "kpom kpom shoe" Rudiger have now?

Is there any explanation that should come with the answer? I wan check something.

airmark:
Initially I thought Timbros was born blind. Timbros is an old school Jehovah witness cum Deeper life, he doesn't watch TV. It's him and his Jehovah witness bag, till Christ returns.

Why you dey avoid question wey I ask you since yesterday?