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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 8:04pm On Jun 03, 2024
odizeey:
Another coach waiting to add "sacked" to his CV cheesy
After some trophies added to the cabinet. That's the most important thing.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 7:59pm On Jun 03, 2024
amodu:
A possession based coach will bin Gallagher without having a second look owing to his obvious lack in ball usage.

Aptly, the duo of Enzo and Caicedo takes the first 2 midfield slots for reason you've highlighted while Palmer completes the midfield.

Clamour for the trio of Enzo, Caicedo and Lavia in midfield is just like having Enzo, Caicedo and Gallagher, it will not yield desirable result. It's important to have a very creative outlet in the midfield and none of those four can provide needed creativity.

Having Lavia, Chukwuemeka, Santos, and Casadei as reserve is fine, while we dispose Gallagher and Ugochukwu.
It is important to note that Maresca worked with Lavia in City academy.

Lavia might be solidly in his plans. So we could see the Enzo, Caicedo, Lavia midfield.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 7:54pm On Jun 03, 2024
airmark:
I hope he won't be a mumu like Poch and go into the season with Jackson as our main striker.
Who says a coach cannot improve a player?

According to you guys, Tuchel improved Rudiger. Why can't Enzo improve Jackson?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 6:54pm On Jun 03, 2024
Welcome to Stamford Bridge, Enzo Maresca.

Italian coaches do well here. Think Conte, think Di Matteo, think Ancelotti.

May you do well like your Italian predecessors.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 6:51pm On Jun 03, 2024
kingBolton:
Can't really remember exact monickers but I remember clearly people attributing our defensive improvements from lampards tenure to tuchel's community defense. Not only rudiger, even Thiago was included in the Agenda then.
You can't say that you don't remember at least 3 or 4 names from the "most" monikers.

Strange.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 6:33pm On Jun 03, 2024
airmark:
Better than Rudiger that was on AWOL.

Even A40 with limited football knowledge, couldn't help but shout the name of Rudiger's saviour.
Not better than Huth on the bench.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 1:57pm On Jun 03, 2024
airmark:
At least I saw Terry in almost all these your pictures. Again, where was Rudiger with this acre of space that Adeyemi failed to utilize?

Karim could even decide to drink pure water before rounding Courtois, with no Rudiger in sight.

Courtois has delivered Madrid consecutively now in Ucl finals.
It's useless being in the frame but not giving any atom of protection to ur GK.

Terry in those frames is as good as Robert Huth sitting on the bench that match day.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 1:38pm On Jun 03, 2024
kingBolton:
Rewriting history in our front...
If you check well most of the guys hailing Rudiger now, attributed his improvement to tuchel's community def.
Name names.

You said most.... Who are they?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 1:37pm On Jun 03, 2024
raumdeuter:
Bald guy who went to Madrid from Everton
And was offloaded back to Everton after a season grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 1:35pm On Jun 03, 2024
airmark:
As usual, you didn't watch the Ucl final. grin

Where was your great and omnipresent Rudiger?
As usual, your problem is nitpicking.

Where was the best CB in our history, Terry, in these images?

He must be wacky for allowing Cech to make these unreal saves.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 11:14am On Jun 03, 2024
Ibime:
You got no excuse blaming the manager in a team in the top 4. Lampard game favoured attackers and more burden was placed on DM and defenders in one-2-duels, however likewise Tammy Abraham, Pulisic, Giroud and the attackers had their best spells for Chelsea under Lampard

You should find another excuse for Rudiger who was wack under Conte and wack under Sarri (you think we've forgotten the 6-0, 4-0 and other hammerings we received when Sarri tried to be adventurous?). If we are being honest, we don't know if Rudiger is in the clear as a defender in an attacking setup because Real Madrid sit 4 CMs in front of their defence
grin grin grin

It's no longer 3 ATB protecting Rudiger. It's now 4 CMs in front of him cheesy cheesy

Very soon, it will be 2 GKs behind him.

Agenda must agend...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 11:09am On Jun 03, 2024
A40:
Na him way. I'm used to it by now. All that matters is he prove him wrong before leaving Chelsea and has joined Madrid to continue proving them wrong
Imagine if Rudiger didn't succeed in Madrid... What we would have been hearing here.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 11:08am On Jun 03, 2024
airmark:
I doubt if you actually know Jehovah. cheesy

Even against Dortmund, Courtois had to save the leaky defence numerous time and many thanks to Karim's profligacy in front of goal too.
Imagine talk.

So goal keeper making saves mean his defence is wack? That means Terry and Carvalho must be the wackest CBs in Chelsea history, because we all agree Cech is the best GK to wear Chelsea gloves considering the constant saves he makes, some near impossible sef..
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 8:24am On Jun 03, 2024
afrodoc2:
Ha. Ok i was talking about the 90s.
Oh OK..

I was referring to late 90s to early 2000s
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 7:47am On Jun 03, 2024
afrodoc2:
Only once. In 1996. I can't remember another Juve vs Madrid in that era apart from the 1998 final that Madrid won. In 1999 Shevchenko and Rebrov beat Madrid.
Juve beat Madrid in 2003 and 2005.

Unless that period is a different era from late 90s in your pov.

For me, I was classifying all those times as an era. Juve was bossing Madrid upandan.

Edit: 2008/09 Juve even nack Madrid home and away in the group stage. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 7:40am On Jun 03, 2024
Ibime:
Man be quiet. Disasi probably blaming Poch likewise yet we can see big differences between Disasi and Chalobah performance under the same Poch. Poch defence is much more porous than Lampards ever was

Rudiger aka kpon kpon shoe aka Corporate Shoe had his reputation long before Lampard came to Chelsea. All of the below are from regular Chelsea watchers during Sarri era

We don't need a casual observer with agenda against Airmark to tell us what we watch weekly. Rest.
Your screenshot is herd mentality at its most perfect definition.

Rudiger is almost singled out for criticism here. No be here again? We have other defenders that makes mistakes here and there but we don't pick on them like we do against Rudiger.

This is NOT agenda against Airmark, rather it's agenda AGAINST Rudiger.

Imagine criticising him him on how he run! but refusing to acknowledge him when he put in a MOTM performance in a final.

It's interesting no one is talking of community defending protecting him again. Now it's that he improved under Tuchel and didn't look back again. The truth is coming out small small.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 7:27am On Jun 03, 2024
afrodoc2:
Hmmm, i think it was even and Madrid beat them when it mattered most. The thing was that Madrid was not regularly there while Juve was there year in year out. It was only later that we found out that they were injecting the players with boosters.

Some of us suspected after the 1996 Final with Ajax sha. The aggression of some of those players seemed demonic. E sure me die say Torricelli and Padovano had more steroids that hemoglobin in their blood that night.
True at the bolded. But in between that final loss to Madrid in '98, Juve knocked them out 3 consecutive times.

I remember that period, even if Madrid win first leg, Juve always come back in second leg to knock them off..

Juve was Madrid's bogey team them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 7:07am On Jun 03, 2024
A40:
Read that article again

https://breakingthelines.com/player-analysis/the-resurgence-of-antonio-rudiger-under-thomas-tuchel-and-a-new-adventure-at-real-madrid/

I will take that submission over biased takes about Rudiger here.

All signs point to the fact that he had his proper stretch of poor form mainly under Lampard. I don't have time for regular jejune arguments over mistakes that players make on game to game basis.

He was appearing and playing regularly under Conte and Sarri when fit. Again he had no real problems till your guy Lampard came along. These are the facts
Ibime will never agree with you once he has formed an opinion on a player.

Airmark own be say even if the L dey choke am for throat, e go still dey stubborn.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 6:57am On Jun 03, 2024
afrodoc2:
Might be my 2nd best day as a United supporter. Juve were everybody's bogeyman in the late 90s. You had to beat Juve to win the Champions League. That was the unwritten rule then.
Madrid see pepper for Juve hand that period
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 10:57pm On Jun 02, 2024
WhoDeyHause:
What of in the premier league where we didn't even finish in top 4, champions league nko, how we even won that final was a surprise cause some of us didn't think we will in that terrible season. He was even worse under conte.
So Rudiger was to blame for all this instances you just mentioned? Rudiger was responsible for us not making top 4?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 10:53pm On Jun 02, 2024
A40:
This one is cap. Same Rudiger that was excellent in FA Cup Final

No be una website be this? Abi you wan dey whine me ni?

Rudiger was a solid performer. He had the odd bad run and everyone jumped on him cos they thought he had your darling Lampard fired

What are the odds now that Lampard is unemployed the players preferred over him are struggling but Rudiger is the only one thriving and winning major titles
Rudiger is already disliked in this street so any mistake he did was bloated.

He was decent all through his time in Chelsea. Bad run of form happens to anyone. But because it's Rudiger, he is always under the microscope.

Under Tuchel, the excuse was community defending. Question is, does Ancelotti play community defending too? How come Rudiger is excelling there?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 3:32pm On Jun 02, 2024
raumdeuter:
Check all those he compared to Rudiger

Kloulibali in Saudi after failing in Chelsea, Manolas in relegation team Salernitania from one Saudi team, Zouma in West Ham after failing at Chelsea

While Rudiger won CL with Chelsea, won CL with Madrid

Airmark is the antiMidas, everything he touches turn to shitt

You just know how Hummels will end yesterday given how airmark
The jinx is real grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 3:31pm On Jun 02, 2024
hensben:
Bale and modric changed Real Madrid to ucl dominance not cr7. He came 2009 and for four years they won nothing until bale and Modric came 2013 but his fan we want us to believe he carried Real Madrid just as they are saying he carried Portugal when it was Nani and Eder that did the job. Overrated bumps that stat pad against lower teams be it club or country.
Are you talking of this Bale or is there another Bale I don't know of?

You never cease to amaze me.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 1:57pm On Jun 02, 2024
airmark:
2 Ucl titles, 3 short of Lucas Vazquez who has 5 Ucl titles.
No allow me whack spatula for your head o grin grin... Have you ever compared Vazquez to Rudiger before?

After we finish with Manolas, we come to Koulibaly.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 1:54pm On Jun 02, 2024
airmark:
2 Ucl titles, 3 short of Lucas Vazquez who has 5 Ucl titles.
So how many does Manolas have? grin grin

Na wetin I wan check be that...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 12:49pm On Jun 02, 2024
airmark:
Because I don't have time to explain basic things that will still fly over your head.
How many UCL does Antonio "kpom kpom shoe" Rudiger have now?

Is there any explanation that should come with the answer? I wan check something.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 11:26am On Jun 02, 2024
airmark:
Initially I thought Timbros was born blind. Timbros is an old school Jehovah witness cum Deeper life, he doesn't watch TV. It's him and his Jehovah witness bag, till Christ returns.
Why you dey avoid question wey I ask you since yesterday? cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 11:01am On Jun 02, 2024
Ibime:
Rudiger was a flop for his first 3.5 years to the point that Chelsea were ready to loan him to Tottenham

At the point of signing Manolas was better than him so Airmark was not wrong

Rudiger improved massively since 2021

It is what it is.
You go explain tire...

I forget sef say you follow for Rudiger critic cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 9:04am On Jun 02, 2024
andrewbaba44:
Dem go don slash the wages and pay am some part off nah

You are asking how does he work when you know Club owners are business people also
Once a contract is terminated, all bonus related to that contract is gone. Unless the were paid upfront, which doesn't make sense.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 9:02am On Jun 02, 2024
Going down memory lane... grin grin grin Ibime we suppose use koboko flog airmark comot for this section. cheesy

Airmark actually typed this? Hahahah...

airmark:
Real madrid and barca hardly coughs out 35m on a defender vulnerable like this. Attached is how rudiger did last term in serie a. If manolas could outperform him as cb and was almost sold for 26m, why should chelsea buy rudiger for 35m? We need cahill's upgrade not another rb. Chelsea should be going for the best players around not germany's second team defender. When we put manolas and rudiger beside each other we dont need extra brain to know who will improve our defence. Roma played a fast one on us and it's a shame. So keep your beer parlour delusions to yourself.
Can you imagine!

airmark:
Koulibaly is an upgrade to Rudiger. cool
Where is Koulibaly and Manolas today? Where is Rudiger? grin

airmark:
That's a good point, to bring something fresh from that side of the pitch.

In my opinion, I need Grimaldo as LB, put money on Rudiger or Zouma and get Koulibaly/Manolas. Get a pacy and effective striker to support Tammy or replace him.
Airmark is a big disgrace. You will think raumdeuter is just trolling him with those jinx talks, but check am well, truth dey inside.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 8:47am On Jun 02, 2024
andrewbaba44:
It was signed on his contract when he joined Madrid ,despite the termination of his contract the deal is still valid

Chelsea is getting the 5m for Madrid making the ucl finals ,even if Madrid had lost Chelsea will still get their money
I never knew a bonus clause still works from a contract that is terminated. How does that work? grin

Will he still be collecting his wages from that terminated contract?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 8:26am On Jun 02, 2024
andrewbaba44:
Lmao

He is actually right bro
Educate me please.

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