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Career / Re: Medical Laboratory Scientists Forum by Timothy3113(m): 9:40pm On May 20, 2018
nelszx:


Do you have the circular or a booklet where you got the info from?
arinzos:
Goodevening Scientists in the house,A new curriculum was sent to us yesterday here in UNN.Doctor of Medical Laboratory Science (MLS.D) has been approved.

No more Undergraduate Specialization.

All thanks to the Council(MLSCN),NUC,AMLSN and other stakeholders that made it possible for MLS.D a reality today.

MLS is moving very fast. Just this month,an approval for our Postgraduate College and MLS.D.
nelszx:


Do you have the circular or a booklet where you got the info from?


It is posted here by this guy,

check up
Career / Re: Medical Laboratory Scientists Forum by Timothy3113(m): 8:26pm On May 20, 2018
arinzos:
Goodevening Scientists in the house,A new curriculum was sent to us yesterday here in UNN.Doctor of Medical Laboratory Science (MLS.D) has been approved.

No more Undergraduate Specialization.

All thanks to the Council(MLSCN),NUC,AMLSN and other stakeholders that made it possible for MLS.D a reality today.

MLS is moving very fast. Just this month,an approval for our Postgraduate College and MLS.D.

1.5 Duration of the programme
The MLS.D degree programme shall run for six (6) academic sessions for Unified Tertiary Matriculation Examination (UTME) candidates and five (5) academic sessions for HND/B.Sc holders in relevant areas. Holders of the BMLS, B.Sc. or AIMLT in Medical Laboratory Science may be admitted into 500 level.

The duration for conversion of B.mls to Mls.D (2 years ) is too much..
Romance / Re: "Men, Stop Calling Us Ashawo" - Emilia Chimee Dyke by Timothy3113(m): 8:44am On May 17, 2018
I have a mum and sister, I won't generalise but I think majority of Nigeria ladies are Ashawo.

In school majority seduce guys to teach them spend for them, they seduce lecturer's for high grade.

In offices they seduce there boss for promotion, 70% of ladies make use of there body for success.

And if not for foolish men, it might not be like that.

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Education / Re: Why We May Go On Strike Again – ASUU President by Timothy3113(m): 8:58am On May 14, 2018
HigherEd:
I think there needs to be a law preventing Academic Unions from going on strike more than once in every three years.
Lalasticlala
There is no law like that oo,

Lauetch went on strike April 2016 and resumed Jan 2017, ( 9month), after 2 months they went on another strike from March and resumed October.

If not for some interference, they are planning on going on strike again.



All Nigeria sector is bleeped up
TV/Movies / Re: What Series Are You Watching Now? Part 2 by Timothy3113(m): 10:47am On May 05, 2018
introvertme:
The latest originals episode is just wonderful.
wonderful with the death of an original.
Education / Re: Guys Between Biochemistry And Industrial Chemistry Which One Is Better by Timothy3113(m): 8:14pm On May 02, 2018
Newbeginnings:


I bolded where you talked about each country and to be sincere all I want to know is about Nigeria, you didn't answer my question....

I asked if you knew anyone that has been refused from working as a clinical chemist because he studied biochemistry..


Sincerely speaking with all the essay I wrote up there, i think you should grap all what am saying.


In a plain language, a biochemist can't be allowed to work in any Government owned and standard private hospitals.


Any biochemist doing so is a quack, and the lab he his working for needs to be sanctioned by the Medical Laboratory Council.
Education / Re: Guys Between Biochemistry And Industrial Chemistry Which One Is Better by Timothy3113(m): 7:56pm On May 02, 2018
Newbeginnings:


Are you saying this because you think that is what happens or because you know someone who was refused a position because he studied biochemistry... because I know someone who works in a hospital in Nigeria with that degree..


In Nigeria system anything goes, we have axillary nurses standing as docs, unqualified personnel dispensing drugs, e.t.c. In that kind of setting, anyone that can recognize reticulocyte, culture micro organisms e.t.c in respective of his degree can be employed as a clinical chemist.

In a standard hospitals (FMC, teaching hospitals, specialist hospitals), all laboratory are manned by licensed Medical laboratory Scientists. Each country have there own regulatory bodies for Medical Laboratory ( nig MlsCn, Australia Aimls).


Any biochemistry graduate working in a hospital that is licensed, must be an Associate of Med laboratory science. And they have stopped the program.
Education / Re: Guys Between Biochemistry And Industrial Chemistry Which One Is Better by Timothy3113(m): 5:02pm On May 02, 2018
Newbeginnings:
Ok. bro, I don't understand what you mean by zero prospects since Emzor pharmaceuticals and other big pharmacetuicals companies in Nigeria hire them.. Even clinical biochemists get to work in hospital too...


Please can you tell me what your meant by zero prospects
biochemist don't work in the hospital as clinical chemist( chemical pathologist). Those who work in the hospital as clinical chemist are medical Laboratory Scientists..
Religion / Re: Help Needed Concerning Restitution by Timothy3113(m): 8:06am On Apr 30, 2018
kingkakaone:

I wonder how people take restitution issues out of contest o.
Jesus didn't even tell him to do it, he was led to do it by the spirit.
Matthew was also a tax collector, did he restitute?
What Scripture emphasized more on is asking for forgiveness and staying away from such sin as in the future as the case of the adulterous woman.
Some many people be making God look like a policeman who always look for faults from us.

Was he mandated by the law or told by anyone to
restitute??
He returned it backed in fourfold when led by the spirit.
There is no laid down rule for restitution.
We should do things as the spirit leads.
Religion / Re: Help Needed Concerning Restitution by Timothy3113(m): 11:47pm On Apr 29, 2018
sooperrescue:

Says who? Zaccheus could not see Jesus because he was a short man and so he decided to climb a tree. Jesus came under the tree and called him to come down. His meeting with Jesus made him repent and gave back all he took and added a fifth. Young man, let go of the certificate and go for another exam. 70% of the people who are jobless in the country today are exam cheats. They cheated with the connivance of their parents and when they get the certificates, they will be surprised when the photocopies of their certificates will be used to wrap fried plaintain and groundnuts. That is what it is good for.


Was he mandated by the law or told by anyone to restitute??

He returned it backed in fourfold when led by the spirit.


There is no laid down rule for restitution.



We should do things as the spirit leads.
Religion / Re: Help Needed Concerning Restitution by Timothy3113(m): 8:40pm On Apr 29, 2018
there is no restitution in the new testament,


If God has forgiven you, old things have passed away, if your want to restitute, let your spirit direct you.

1 John 1:8-10
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves
and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he
is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and
purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we
have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his
word is not in us.

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Romance / Re: Read Why I Changed From Being Romantic To Being A Monster by Timothy3113(m): 10:47pm On Apr 19, 2018
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Health / Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by Timothy3113(m): 11:06pm On Apr 18, 2018
OgaInnocent:
I was prompted to script this piece when I read yesterday from the comment of certain moniker here called amarabae, that the problem the Joint Health Sector Union (JOHESU) put themselves is being orchestrated by the Nigerian Medical Association (NMA /Doctors) .
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Inasmuch as the veracity of such claim by such an anonymous online user remains inconsequential, I still wish to educate the unsuspecting public on certain things of paramount and topical significance.

Before I continue, I thought it worthwhile to introduce myself, so that you take cognizance of my biases, if any. I am NOT a medical doctor, at least for now, thus, suffer not yourself in trying to tag this as "espirit des corps" game.

Now, it is no longer news that JoHESu is on strike for reasons bordering on salary and hospital hierarchy.
The news is here:
... https://www.nairaland.com/4456282/federal-health-workers-under-umbrella/3#66805229

ON SALARY:

I wouldn't comment on that because that is the business of the the govt. But let it be on record that if someone should complain of salary, it is the doctors. Nigerian Doctors cannot talk in the presence of their colleagues practicing abroad. They are the most underpaid persons with relation to the value offered. You can imagine the amount Canadian doctors are paid that made them to protest last time. An average consultant doctor in canada receives about 500,000 (about 180 million naira) dollars yearly. A consultant in nigeria is struggling with 10million naira yearly. Hence the reason 90% of Nigerian doctors are jetting out of the country, with many on the way out also. Even the few that are staying, are doing so, due to some supplementation coming from private practice. Otherwise, with the rate at which other countries are ready to issue visa to doctors, Nigeria may soon run out of doctors.
The truth is everyone needs a salary increase because cost of goods have increased, starting from teachers. However, the issue of salary still remains their business with the govt, but note that if your salary is increased to that of a doctor, the doctors will seek their own increase. It is natural to act that way.

ON HOSPITAL HIERARCHY

I heard they want to be given consultant nurse, consultant physiotherapist, consultant Med Lab Scientist etc.

People need to understand something. The hospital is structured in such a way that every treatment /instruction must be directed from the Consultant Physician or Consultant Surgeon. No patient receives anything in the hospital unless the doctor says so. The reason is not far-fetched. It is in the best interest of the patient, so that he/she is not malhandled. Imagine when we introduce a consultant nurse, a doctor will give his own instructions and the nurse will also like to execute his own consultancy expertise by giving his own instructions, at the end, the patient, is at the receiving end. The practice is that the doctor is and must be the head of the patient management team.

Most nurses are clamoring for consultancy because of the knowledge they acquire by virtue of working in hospital for years. They feel they can now challenge the doctor.

I will give an analogy: In Catholic church, we have the parish priest, we have the catechist. By virtue of working at the alter for about 10years, the catechist can comfortably celebrate the mass. Infact he can even celebrate more than the priest if given opportunity. He can also be more prayerful than the priest. But no matter the condition, the catechist can never celebrate mass or be equated to the priest simply because he can do what the priest can do if given the opportunity. There is formal way of becoming a priest, and it is open to everyone, thus, if the catechist wishes to be celebrating mass, he should simply enroll into the seminary, and boom, he becomes a priest. That is the formality.

Nurse vs Nurse Dichotomy

There are two types of nurses, we have those that attended school of nursing(Registered Nurse. RN). we also have those that are studying nursing in university (B. Sc). The truth is that the BSc holders are paid far higher than the RN holders. Why is it so? In terms of work, I need not tell you that, the RN holders are the ones that do the major suffering in the hospital, and JOHESu will not harmonize their salaries so that all nurses are paid parallel amount. But they want to be paid what doctors (mbbs) are paid. That's hypocrisy.


Medical Laboratory Scientists vs Medical Laboratory Technology

The way Medical lab scientist (Bsc) discriminate against the Med lab technologist (HND) is another case study. You and I know that those polytechnic guys are more practical oriented and cannot be equated with university counterparts. But yet, the Bsc holders still lord it over the HND holders. They claim superiority over them, and yet want equality with doctors. Another hypocrisy.


Med Lab Scientist vs Microbiologist.

I happened to study microbiology in my first degree. As a microbiologist, you cannot have a lab on your own. You must work under a med lab Scientist. Even when the knowledge base is the same among the two disciplines.

Last time on Facebook I saw some graduates of med lab from ABSU hanging stethoscope on their neck, calling themselves diagnostic doctors. Thats so laughable. And that has been the delusion that has been making them think they are equal with doctors. That you can see bacteria in urine in the lab does not make you diagnose a patient of infection. A doctor makes 95% of the diagnosis from history and physical examination, just right in the consultation room. The lab tests are to confirm diagnosis and also check for the other systems that the patient may not be complaining of. Also every med lab Scientist works under a Consultant Chemical pathologist, consultant micro biologist, consultant Histopathologist, or Consultant hematologist as the case may be.


The Way OUT

The truth is that, there should not be the need for all these fracas if everyone remains to his job description and prescription. There is already a job description for doctors, nurses, med lab Scientists etc. If you are not comfortable with the job you do, you can switch and follow the formality laid out for that profession. There shouldn't be need for being a nurse and wanting to do the job of a doctor, or being a doctor and wanting to do the job of a nurse.
A doctor needs a nurse, a nurse needs a doctor, a med lab Scientist needs a doctor and vice versa.

In addition to that, every job has a salary scale, most times the salary does not justify the work they do, but only justifies the time and process it took to get there. The people that take the highest salaries in Nigeria are the people that do nothing. They only go to offices to enjoy the AC and go home at the end of the day. When the month ends, they collect millions. Its unfortunate society has made it that way. Let us have a rethink, and be human. Everyone needs salary increase, starting from teachers to doctors to JOHESU (except our senators ***winks***). The problem is getting it right at the electoral polls.

sscripturas@gmail.com
.. Are you truely a medical practioner??


There is nothing like medical Laboratory Technology in polythecnics , but Science Laboratory Technology which has options in environmental biology, Microbiology, physics electronics, chemistry e.t.c. So no dictomy between SLT and Mls.

On the issue of microbiology and Mls, medical microbiology is a branch of Mls. We have his to pathology, haematology , Chemical pathology. MCB deals with food, soil Mcb.

On the issue of pay , as you said it depends on government but a body shouldn't bring o

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Career / Re: Medical Laboratory Scientists Forum by Timothy3113(m): 7:20pm On Apr 11, 2018
www.nairaland.com/1032530/general-australian-visa-enquiries/333





You can follow this thread,



Migration Steps for Medical Laboratory Scientists

STEP 1
To see if you qualify for this program, you need at least 60
points, goto:
http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/189.aspx click on
‘Points Test’
http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/190.aspx click on
‘Points Test’
http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/489.aspx click on
‘Points Test’

STEP 2
Undertake IELTS test (International English Language Testing
System). IELTS is conducted every month by the British
Council across several towns in Nigeria http://
takeielts.britishcouncil.org/ you will need an Overall Band
score of 7.0 or better in either the Academic or General
Training module of the test.
For IELTS preparation materials, you could go to; http://
www.ieltsbuddy.com/

STEP 3
Undertake Skills assessment by the Australian Institute of
Medical Scientists (AIMS). This is the rate limiting step for
skilled migration to Australia as a Medical Laboratory
Scientist http://www.aims.org.au/documents/item/88
Usually done in two stages:

A) Paper based assessment; you will submit your certificates
and job references to AIMS for evaluation. At the end of this
stage you will be classified as an MLT and invited to write
the AIMS professional exams.

B) The AIMS professional exam takes place in March/
September each year in several cities around the world. If
are successful in this exams, then you are ready for STEP 4
For more info about this exam, course contents, sample
questions or venues, please view this link: http://
www.aims.org.au/services/aims-assessments/medical-
laboratory-scientist

STEP 4
Submit an Expression of Interest on SKILLSELECT and
receive an INVITE usually within 30 days

STEP 5
Apply for Visa, Do Medical & Police checks

STEP 6
Receive your Visa & Migrate
Depending on when you start, this process takes 12 - 18
months to conclude. See you in Australia
www.immi.gov.au
SkillSelect
www.immi.gov.au

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Politics / Re: Nigerian Airforce Foils Suicide Bombing Attempt At UNIMAID by Timothy3113(m): 12:05pm On Apr 09, 2018
book haram are cowards,
Career / Re: Advice Needed: New Job Or Internet Fraud by Timothy3113(m): 1:38am On Apr 06, 2018
[hmm
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: Getting To The Top 'young' Almost Ruined My Career. A Nairalander!!! by Timothy3113(m): 12:25pm On Mar 23, 2018
Nearly all
men can stand adversity,
but if you want to test a
men’s character, give
him power." . And Absolute power they say, corrupt absolutely
Romance / Re: Dating Drills! Guys Only! by Timothy3113(m): 2:36pm On Mar 21, 2018
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Jobs/Vacancies / Re: Corper In Kwara State In Search Of Employment (PPA) by Timothy3113(m): 8:06am On Mar 18, 2018
handsomeclouds:

First of all dump that illusion, no jobs outside.
You can try consultancy firms like terrzaghi and the likes. I doubt if you will be paid. Remember you can't be posted to these engineering firms as PPA cos they are private.
My Advice for you is to look beyond the one-year delay program.
Start applying for jobs,
If its Masters, start seeking admission.. You will do perfectly well outside the country.. You can start applying for scholarships in countries like Netherlands, they don't require GRE. Or better still write GRE and TOEFL and seek scholarship to US university ( that's only if u wanna opt for masters)
Better still spend your time in learning Auto card and the likes

All in all, there are no serious civil engineering jobs in Ilorin. No road is under construction, no serious structure
That reminds me you have an option at lower river Niger basin... I think an aspect of civil is water. Let your parents connect you there. Its Federal and it matches your professional.
Summarily look beyond the one year and start telling your uncles about your desperate need for job. Don't wait until few months to d end of Nysc or after. What did I say DON'T WAIT TILL THE END OF NYSC
#my50cent


I think there is an ongoing big project at gari alimi,
( bridge and road of like 10km).


With the right source you can apply for intern there.
Crime / Re: Yahoo Boys Clear Out Nigerian Man Mum's Life Savings by Timothy3113(m): 10:35pm On Mar 05, 2018
Nigerians need to shun anny form of illegality, assuming it was a whiteman that was scammed, people will be hailing him.

We need to say no to any form of fraud.

A thief is a thief, no matter who he /she stole from.

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Career / Re: Med Lab Or Applied Biology??? by Timothy3113(m): 10:44pm On Mar 01, 2018
Who is a biologist


A biologist , is a scientist who has specialized knowledge in
the field of biology , the scientific study of life .[2] Biologists
involved in fundamental research attempt to explore and
further explain the underlying mechanisms that govern the
functioning of living matter. Biologists involved in applied
research attempt to develop or improve more specific
processes and understanding, in fields such as medicine
and industry .

Then who is a medical laboratory scientists? A medical laboratory scientists is a healthcare professional who
performs chemical , hematological , immunologic ,
histopathological , cytopathological, microscopic , and
bacteriological diagnostic analyses on body fluids such as
blood , urine , sputum , stool , cerebrospinal fluid (CSF),
peritoneal fluid , pericardial fluid , and synovial fluid , as well
as other specimens.



Biology has many option like, zoology, botany , microbiology, and environmental biology. Biologist work in food industries e.t.c while Med lab scientist work mainly in the hospital.


A biologist is not licensed to work in the hospital , but can out research on body samples.


I believe you can deduce , between a hospital and industry, which one create more job opportunity in Nigeria environment.
Career / Re: Are There Good Jobs Available For Biomedical Scientists(bsc Holders) In Nigeria? by Timothy3113(m): 9:51am On Feb 27, 2018
Biomedical science is known as Medical Laboratory Science in Nigeria. They work in Nigeria Hospital , Medical Laboratories.

There is No profession that Job is guaranteed in Nigeria, but I think you stand a chance in Nigeria labor market.


You can work in all Teaching Hospitals, Medical centers, Medical research centre, NGO and as a lecturer.
Education / Re: Hallmark University Holds 2nd Matriculation Ceremony (PICS) by Timothy3113(m): 2:01pm On Feb 23, 2018
bolex04:
gbayi bro dem reach 10000 for gay 1000
my set in lautech, they matriculated 8000 students.

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Career / Re: Microbiologists And Medical Licensing Issue by Timothy3113(m): 6:21pm On Feb 19, 2018
AyanbajoSD100:
Pls Nairalanders...why are microbiologists not permitted to have or run a medical laboratory? There should be a professional course to top up as to allow us run a medical laboratory


There is a course called Medical Laboratory Science/ Clinical Laboratory Science or Biomedical Science. This is a new course in the health care profession. It makes use of knowledge of physiology, biochemistry, histology, Microbiology, hematology e.t.c to analyse human sample to diagnose disease in laboratory.

All health practitioner require license to practice in anywhere In the world, and each country have a body regulating the medical profession. Due to NUC directive that all Bsc equivalent course must be done in a University, Nigeria government made a law in 2003 that empowers the Medical Laboratory Science Council of Nigeria to regulate and supervise Medical laboratory. There use to be a diploma course that makes biological scientist , medical scientist but they have stopped that.
According to Mlscn the only way to be licensed to work in any Nigeria Medical laboratory is to have a Bmls. Nothing short of that can't get you licensed.

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Health / Re: Steps To Become A Registered Nurse In Nigeria by Timothy3113(m): 7:41am On Feb 05, 2018
inspector44:



What about going through the medical postgraduate College along badagry to do a programme can that work. Cos my wife wants to build a career for her self in medical
she has a BSC microbiology and a PGD in Maritime Environmental Management...... I really need your advice
Majority of all health practitioner are all licensed in Nigeria, Doctors by MDCN, nurses by NMNC, Lab scientist by Mlscn, pharmacist by pcn , e.t.c


The Nigeria medical postgraduate college is mainly for Medical doctors.
No matter your postgraduate qualification, if don't have a Bsc in that field and aren't licensed, you can't practice.

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Health / Re: Steps To Become A Registered Nurse In Nigeria by Timothy3113(m): 7:31pm On Feb 03, 2018
inspector44:
Please someone with a degree BSC in Microbiology and wants to study nursing...... At what level do I start from considering I want to start up a career in nursing
You start from 200 level
Health / Re: Steps To Become A Registered Nurse In Nigeria by Timothy3113(m): 7:40am On Feb 03, 2018
okadoo:


My sister fished from Cotonou as a registered nurse and she is practicing in Lagos (Gov hospital)
Hmmm,


Not in for an argument, but I know so many people from
topearos:


Tell your sister to tell you the truth, she graduated from Cotonou but her result does not bear Cotonou. There's a way they manipulate it, got results from other neighbouring countries.

Shalom! �
okadoo:


My sister fished from Cotonou as a registered nurse and she is practicing in Lagos (Gov hospital)
Hmmm,


Not in for an argument, but I know so many people studying in Cotonou, that left at there finals due to accreditation issue.


Some were given the option to graduate with public health, or pay additional fee and go to Ghana to continue there studies.

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Health / Re: Steps To Become A Registered Nurse In Nigeria by Timothy3113(m): 6:14pm On Feb 02, 2018
topearos:
I will go to Niger/Benin republic to get Bachelor in Nursing. Am tired of Nigerian Universities.
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I don't know your plan , but if you want to work for Nigeria government. Forget that Bsc nursing from Cotonou. You won't be allowed to practice as a Registered Nurse here in Nigeria, except you want to be an educated auxiliary.

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Business / Re: 4 Business And Career Growth Secrets I Learnt From A Cashew Tree - Johnspeak by Timothy3113(m): 2:55pm On Feb 02, 2018
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