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dayokanu:
Beat us? You think say Na seoul FC, Malaysia FC you wan play

na for ur eyes the thng go happen

sorry
we are beating u guys instead very soon

wanna bet?

dayokanu:
Did you see QUALITY in my statement? I mean quality not Elano, Robinho, Kleberson and Anderson

QUALITY

hehehehe
that means Brasil has just one quality!
The dude can only play in one league not 2

dayokanu:
This is a very good move for the guy wayyy better than moving to those crappy EPL teams where he would deteriorate.

Most Spanish teams play better football than Everton Lauching of high balls into the air.

Wonder why Quality Brazilians dont play in the EPL?

Anderson, Elano, Robinho, Lucas are Argentines?

biina:
ManU have conceded 4 goals in 3 matches
Source of errors
1st - Evra and partially Van der saar for being far off his line
2nd - foster
3rd - Evra
4th - Evra
Summary: Problem is Evra who seems to have his mind elsewhere.

If Rooney doesnt become a WPOY top three after this season, the guy should move to another club (preferably madrid ). The guy has so much potential and such a high footballing IQ that am disappointed he was in the shadows of CR. I have always suspected that SAF had a soft spot and preference for CR as compared to Rooney, particularly after the world cup incident and his numerous whinning about wanting to leave. I never knew SAF could take that from any player.

If Evra is ill, they shld gve him some tim off o

as for Rooney going to Madrid
thts 100 milla

SAF will do anything in hs power to keep a talented young player.

Heard the commentator say Evra is a Senegalese who migrated to France becuz his popsy was a diplomat or something like that. . . . that true

true!

Biina
ok. lets leave fnance for now and lets talk pre-season friendlies

why are we conceding goals in torrents?
abi Rio and Vida don dey kolo

biina:
Believe whatever you may as I already told you I didnt want to derail the thread
We will all be watching events unfold in the coming years. Lets see if you will win another UCL or sell another 80m player.

heheheh
we have won 3 just like Barca
are you sayng Barca wont win the UCL again?

If a club tht has won three times b4 cannot win again, then what hopes do he likes of Chelsea have?

stop displaying ur pastoral tendencies here. If you wanna prophesy, go to church
what you said has got no footie backing

UTD can win the UCL again if they qualify to play in it

why do we have to sell a player for 80milla again?
u have issues

My friend, will you stop boring everyone with your half-baked finance ideas. . . . Utds debt grew only because their repayments track slightly above the LIBOR rate which was growing in 2008. . . . and its been dropping since the credit crunch eased so interest payments shouldnt be so severe next year. . . . this is a usual arrangement for an LBO of this size. . . now enough of predicting impending doom for EPL clubs. . . too much nyafu nyafu talk for here. . . . I want hear football jare.

Biina and his financial skills

i dont know what he reads

Phony200:
Comeback from 2 goals down o, Rooney, Kiko and Berbatov.

macheda again?
bad guy

Motorola Talkabout T180. That one with the horn

yeah. that was my first phone.

rubbish fone

i changed to one rubbish flat motorolla and was a bg boi amongst my friends cos it was a flip fone
den thief d fone and it was like lost heaven. tot the sky was gonna fall off

changed to Samsung (blue eye) chei!!! i rocked tht fone

then sony ericsson came with the polyphonic ringtone and i went gaga
J7 was the fone and . . . .
na Javelin now oo

abeg, who scored for us?
did Owen score again?

Phony

This is supposed to be Nanis season. If he misses this opportunity, we'll ship hm straight to Budapest

God ure so good, God ure nice, God u are wonderful
my God u are excellent

ure the Lord ,tht is ur name
u will never share ur glory with anyone
u will never share ur glory with anybody
almghty God, that is ur name

God i thank you for yesterday, today and tmr
thank you Lord

Biina. Bin madly busy to respond to u o but lets do a quick one

As at today, the situation is still quite salvageable, but given the current direction,  three seasons without trophies and it could  spell the end for the club. Add to it the fact that SAF will retire soon and things could get really bad, really quickly.

This is a faulty assumption. Three seasons without a trophy and UTD will be in ruin?
Its a joke innt?
UTD will not be in ruins if they go trophyless for some seasons cos the brand appeal and all tht have made UTD a darling club wouldnt necessarly be eroded cos of some dull moments
However, UTD cannot go three seasons without a major trophy
impossible

The general idea is simple, you service the loans as much as you can, while recouping their initial investment and getting some profit along with it. But since their priority is to make money, they are willing to let the club take on more debt just to ensure that they get their money out of the system. Evidence of this is that despite high income levels to the club (from success on the pitch), the debt levels are increasing. The worst of the debt is likely the PIK loans which is not serviced at all but rolled over into equity in the club. As at june 2008 the loan was at £699 (25% increase from the initial debt and an increase of £33 million after the refinancing). The required  interest payments are more staggering £68.8 million. All this after record incomes from winning the UCL and premiership resulting in £66 million operating profit for that year.

frst off, ur accountng of UTDs proceeds from the recent victories could be faulty. When is the year end of UTD? the monetary gains ure talking about came about in may, just some 2 months ago. its very possible, the proceeds from the UCl and co are not accounted for yet in the report u saw
also, forget the cashflows involved in the repayment schedule, m very sure the repayment plans are hinged on some bankable/liquid receivables from UTD.
Proceeds from gate takings, sales of players, endorsements, tv rights, monetary gains from tourneys (variable) et al are good enuff to service the loans ure talking about. Any of these can be used as a major repayment tool conveniently for donkey years

This is not totally bad, if the club is successful on the pitch, but we all know that football success is cyclic. ManU will likely be in a lull for the next few years and their income, particularly UCL will drop considerably (doubt they will be playing in the UCL finals in the next few years). The Glazers might slow down but will likely not change their plans, and thus manU will continue to taken on increasing debts. At the point that they cannot get more out of united, they will cut their losses and leave.

are you a prophet? 3 epl titles in a trot, 2 ucl finals in a trot and suddenly UTD will start falling like a pack of cards?
if these are the kind of assumptions you use for ur models, ol boi, den go sack u soon

As to that banks would keep giving out loans, that is a point in time question. The banks will give them loans if they think that the loans will be serviceable, and that is not difficult given that someone will usually get a huge bonus from such deals. But the problem stems from the unserviced loans which are spiraling and not from a new loan. If the current debt levels become too high, no bank will grant them a loan.

show me a credible link that talks about the unserviceable part

As to an Arab buyout, I doubt it will ever happen to manU or any of the big clubs. Such is reserved for medium clubs like Chelsea, Villa, Everton, Man City and co. Otherwise, where were the money bags when ManU was on the open market or wasn't manU available before Roman went after chelsea? The likes of ManU are too big to be acquired as toys. rather its cheaper to buy and turn around the medium clubs which usually costs less than £200 million

The Glazers bought Manchester UTD!!!
so what are you sayng? they bought UTD from the open market

If the Glazer ever do decide to leave, it would be because ManU is no longer a profitable venture, and it will likely spell the end of a great club.

just like that?
this is not Leeds not Villa, Manchester UTD is wht we are talking about
the biggest football brand in the world

Now, that ur conclusion can only be due to one thing
alcohol

man. . .i dey FEAR oh!

all this dragging to court means that both parties are broke and in dire straits

how many more court cases are we going to see

the bottom of my bed is beginning to look more and more attractive as a vault

i disagree

i dont know of a rich man that will leave his/her money with a debtor for no justifiable reason
They are owing and the only permissible means of getting the money is through the law.

I dont think GTbank is broke.
Not at all

Emperoh:
Una want start this Football finance war again? Make una no make this thread boring abeg!!

wetin dey vex u pally?
u never chop today

how runs?

walakolobo:
I can now see why the Niger Delta people are suffering, they lack the correct ability to think, dialogue, discuss, hence they result into violence, they are no intelects, they are rouges, mama and papi waters, they have replaced intellectual thinking with the use of weaponry, they have replaced militancy with thugrey, destruction and arrant nonsence. In war, it is a different ball game, then it is not going to be fighting against an harmless installation, blowing up harmless installations, it will be an eye for an eye, a leg for a leg, they will find out that it is more than hiding and bombing a few installations and calling it militancy, they will know this is arm for arm - who born egberi when yoruba ifa, opele, sango, oya, ogun, opele and all the deities dey? Dem think say na by play by play?

It is another matter carrying AK 47s and it is another matter rendering it completely useless with the power of ifa- their guns will just be oozing out water instead of amunition, in short, they will simply be spoken to, commanded and they will begin to shoot each other, let him call it ranting now, but by the time the real thing happens, his head will be a platter for OPC to sit on- who born am? Im think say na joke? Let him go to ondo state and ask what happened in 1983 - seems he forgets too soon. I can see he is afraid already, but when OPC lands on his head, shits on it, he will forget the password to his email address.

heheheheheehehehe
na u funny pass for this NL
juju for war

[quote author=onye_ngbu link=topic=299896.msg4236060#msg4236060 date=1248343872]yea you see how right I have been.

of course you wont be here when it starts and that goes for all your brothers.

They will all run away! COWARDS!

rotlmao

Cheii.[/quote]hehehehe
i go run. i agree, i be coward raise to power 5

wetin i go gain from war? nothn

You wait for the war o, no run o
siddon there make den throw bomb for ur head

RuuDie:
@ great stuff tbk. . . . that boy still has a thing or two to learn about LBOs.

Ruudie dont let Biina come and tear us apart o

[quote author=onye_ngbu link=topic=299896.msg4235810#msg4235810 date=1248341753]@tkb417,

buying weapons and having the heart to use it are 2 different things.

your people dont just have the heart. dont u get that?


its a tribe full of cowards! [/quote]ok sir!

is this a tested hypothesis or a fabrication?
assumption or proven facts?

siddon there dey look.
there are no cowards when its a full scale war.

If you read newspapers very well, you must have read about Yorubas killing themselves in osun state (ife/modakeke) for many years
if you read history, you'll know about the times of Awo, Akintola and co.

If you didnt throw away ur history books, you must have heared about the likes of Lisabi, Timi of ede, latoosa and co
as funny as it sounds, these are backgrounds to when Yorubas have been engaged in wars.

I am not advocating for it cos i wont be here when it starts.

I am just saying, for all heads who want war to start because they feel the Yorubas will fold their arms, be stupid and not be able to use the weapons, will be cowards and throw their hands up when the war starts, will run from their states to Cotonou because of MEND

You will be shocked at wht will happen.

Pray it doesnt happen in ur time or else, your time will be a waste on earth. or maybe ure thinking ull have another life to live?
one life to live bros

Nayani maintains the money won't go towards reducing the club's debt, which remains at an estimated £666m, despite an expected reduction in corporate spending in the current financial climate.

"Manchester United are so far unaffected by the downturn," he said. "It would be foolish to say there would be no impact because you never know what is going to happen down the line but our season-ticket sales stand up well, in comparison to previous years.

"I have been saying that one should expect a downturn in our corporate sales but every club is faced with that. We do have a debt to service and that debt is significant but our interest payments are £43.3m a year while our operating profit was £80m topped off by an extra £25m from transfer sales.

"We are talking about a net amount of £60m and that is cash that can be reinvested in the squad - or if you prefer doing up the toilets or new carpets.

"The point is, there is money coming into Manchester United and one thing is certain that because of globalisation and the growing middle classes in India and the Far East, the appeal of football is set to grow and we are part of that story."

Biina
Not justifying the above quotes but as a follow up on our debate the other time, as much as the debt stays staggering, it is still within a manageable space.

The debt or whatsoever from the look of things will not affect the performance on the pitch and if thts the case, then expect UTD to always be one of the most profitable sporting brands.

in that case, Banks will always be willing to refinance the loan/the loan can be conveniently repaid.

Just like i told you the other time, there must be clear repayment terms between the sponsor and the banks.

ure on ma page now?

can you people help us appeal to your coach to stop talking about UTD
is he a retard?

hehehehehe

when war starts, you guys wont have light to post on the internet
be yarning dusts and be calling for war.

Those of you who havent travelled abroad na im i pity past, una go dey hear suffer with the agberos wey go dey fight
The Jomo Gbomos and co will be abroad enjoying some massage.

To even think some believe the Yorubas cannot afford to bring in sophisticated weapons in war makes me think the people here are either born retards or just playing dumb.

When war starts, all man for himself, the riches provide money to buy armoury, the capitalists who has interests in the country give money to protect their interests et al

He who is calling for a full scale war with OPC shld pray it doesnt happen.

lemme give u an idea of what will happen
~No work
~No money
~No school
~No amenities to enjoy

what you have is bombs flyin up and down, most of your friends amputated, beloved liening dead in the hospital while the warlords feed large abroad. You can say they wil;l be tried 20 years after at the Hague, but will that bring back your destiny ruined?

i no carry 9ja pee and i fit waka in times of war as a foreigner

oya, make war start make we see who go win
fools

Even though I had made that statement earlier, another scenario occurred to me as well. In very rare and certain conditions, there may be a stipulation where the transaction may be based on a 3 day average preceding the date of closing. This you will find in cases such as commodities in terms of final price for the agreement. What this means is that the price at the date of closing will be averaged with the trading price of the 2 previous days. I am not so sure that this is applied in foreign exchange trades though. But then with Nigeria, you never know. This is why i am adding this statement.

false. in this case, the quoted exchange rate will be used.

It will be moronic for an Oil company to source funds out of Nigeria based on a variable rate of another currency. It will be much cheaper to source the funds from the country who's currency is being used and have your Bank co-sign the agreement. Why will anyone source at 19%-25% when they can get the same for 1.5%-4%? Even speculating rich individuals from the Western World will jump on a deal like that and provide private funds for it. Is this how Nigerian business men do it?

MINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i didnt wanna say this b4.
i actually know of an oil trading coy whos not as big as AP who just got a trading line of $100m from BNP and the interest rate is 2.3%
The trading coy plays products tht are hedged by BNP and blah blah blah

The point as you stated is why would they source for an expensive line from a local bank?
its either the CFO is raving mad, or AP are buncha twats

ING, BNP, Standard Bank, et al are doing crazy deals with our traders here so?
somebory tell me wht happened

are they crazy?
how can the internet and stuffs be the reason why we lost money?

and whts Okereke saying about Investors not losing money?

e be like say den don dey share ogogoro for dt area

I thank you Lord for divine favour
i thank you for ordering my steps in the right direction
i thank you for the gift of life also

Glory be to God in the highest

edoyad:
Tkb dont let me start with you, i'm replyins with a hand set and i'v got big thumbs(uhm! I wonder what else is big on me as a result of that)LOL. Hasn't that guy found the household names ?

hehehe
no vex. just wan find ur trouble

edoyad:
Mr biina , i'd lik u to mane one, just one wolfsburg player that was a house hold before last season, even now,since you well learned on B.liga matters. Secondly your doubting whether T. roz can stay fit for long periods falls under the B.liga matters also since that was where he and jan k did their thing. Google his name with B. Dortmund and see how fit he was there. Mind you, this guy's not much older than Rvp if at all he is.

are u just learning how to talk?

presido1:
You can't compare Apache and Babasuck, Apache beats him hands down anytime anyday.
If you watched the first game against Malasian 11 the goal Rooney scored should have been scored by babasuck if not his lackadaisical attitude and laziness.
On a good day that guy should not be allowed inside OT to watch a game of footie talkless of wearing Red.

hehehehe
harsh words  

dipo2much:
AleX Fergie said Carlos Tevez wasnt worth £25m. Thats a BIG LIE. Is barbatov supposed to cost as much as tevez? Yet they bougth berbatove for 30M

he wanted berba so he'll get him no matter what. as for Tevez, he was a surplus to requirement at that price
so he had to let go
very simple

working for who?

if hes an accountant and hes working for himself, then why not

but as a paid employee, hehehehe
na kirikiri go end im case

are we still buying Douglas?
tot SAF said no more signinings

and benitez is at it again o, hes started with us already
fool is on TV right now saying bollocks
anuofia