₦airaland Forum

ilugunboy:
Listen to youself!. However some legit issues you raised, nevetheless it should be directed at your rogue leaders of the Delta. Not this type of transfer aggresion.

Ilugun, the dude has spoken well
The Govt shld help build the area. The oil rich states shld at least be like Abuja to start with

i agree the thieves they have as rulers shld be stripped of those billions.
Heared some billions and Chelsea Hotel in Abuja were handed to the Bayels govt, good.
Ibori and co shld be stripped too

Ibime:
No wonder you dey make gbrigidi like egbewedger. . . . I hope you didnt school in Zaria. . . you dehumanised barbarian  


@ the content in bold. . . . what was tkb417 shouting when Fashola was calling for Lagos State Police force?. . . . tkb was shouting "Yes Fashola, I agree with you 100%!"  

And how does having State-controlled Police force cancel out the need for fiscal federalism?. . . . are they mutually exclusive?. . . . wetin concern fish with raincoat?

BTW, most states in Nigeria already have their own state-controlled police force. . . . Bakassi Boys, vigilantes etc  

Tomorrow now, you would tell me "Do the villagers own the land for which they are complaining", not forgetting that they did until OBJ criminally introduced the Land Act of 1978 bestowing all lands and profits from lands on Federal Government.

Ol' boy chill out on that. . . . . successive military governments have emasculated the Niger-Deltan people. . . . now we are back in democracy, we only ask for a return to the same conditions as 1960. . . .resource control for indivual peoples of Nigeria. . . . it would not have escaped your attention that each part of Nigeria witnessed the most progress when they were accountable for themselves. . . . all our Universities and major roads were built during that period. . . . each region was productive and each leader was answerable to his people, not Federal power-brokers. . . . as Wole Soyinka rightfully said, its time to revisit the 1967 question of Federalism, otherwise no hope for Naija. . .

Ibime in fact u no well

so OPC na state Police

for real, i understand wht ure saying and i reckon if we go back to when the regions were controlling resources, it will augur well for all states/regions. Thats correct!

the only time we had some meaninful developments in this country was when we controlled our destinies ourselves
maybe, if we go back to that period, maybe Nigeria will be better for it (maybe)

but tell the cantankerous elements in ur domain to stop shelling my backyard in the name of trying to pass mssgs to the central
the bombs can be sent to aso rock.   .    .   . wetin concern us for Lagos

Ibime:
Perhaps you failed Govt yourself. . . . was there a subject called Govt sef?. . . . which kain private school you go. . .

I am all ears Mr Itk419 . . . . lecture me on how yankee system should differ from ours. . . . or how any federation does. . . . what was our constitution regarding regional autonomy in 1960 (the terms under which we agreed to come together as different peoples). . . . and point out how anything I have said contravenes the 1960 agreement. . . . I am waiting

Ibime, dont lets start jagbajantis here o
i went to military schools for my nursery, primary and secondary and yes i wrote a subject called Govt in my SSCE

e be like say na Afghanistan you go school cos u don start ur megedefegede again

do i need to go further on this cos you shld knw while there are reserved powers for states in America, our constitution didnt make allowance for our states in Nigeria.
how you compare states that own and control their security operatives not to control their resources beats me. Except ure saying we shld scrap what we have now and go the way of US

as it is now, what ure clamouring for is illegal and ur coconut head shld have pointed this out
olodo oshi

Why not?. . . . do all states in a Federation not control their resources.

did you fail your Govt in secondary school?
or you didnt do it at all?

go buy a Govt textbook and understand hw US and 9ja are different.

And you better believe it, MENDS modus operandi is the destruction of Nigerias oil economy. . . . if it pain you, then let it pain you. . . .when Naija is exporting 0 bpd perhaps it will come to its senses

by tht time, the whole ND population will be less than 100

Emperoh:
Can you imagine that??
I will soo deal with him that he will forget his username and password to Nairaland!!

abeg o. temper justice with mercy o
no forget about my request o

really foundations for things like paying monthly are not in place ,come to think of it ,the shops being built by government are being paid for in advance, if i let an apartment out to you and you default in paying for a month ,who is going to be responsible for that ,please lets look at things from all sides.
How am i to be convinced that you can pay monthly ,the banks that ought to do that are not there for people .
you can just tell a landloard you working for a big company and you expect he or she to accept that.
How do a landlord do a credit check on a tenant

Oh Jesus of nazareth!!!
how were they doing it years back?

how do they do it in the banks if u want to borrow?
hehehehe
ol boi, relax

Divab:
The government should led by example, Those that make the rules shld not break it, Let the government build houses, flats, shops and let it out on 3mths payment basis & stick to the implementation plan, Enforcing whatever bill to landlords will make a little sense,

Also paying 2 yrs rent in lagos state is rather high but monthly payment is crazy, Our economy has not developed to that point anyway, I suggest one yr or 6 months payment with appropriate measures to ensure evacuation if there's a default. paying 1yr rent keeps one's heart at rest in cases there's loss of job or source of income,

Before the govt, big boys enforce these rules or Bills, they shld weigh both sides of the coin, its not a matter of passing bills or a lets do it again thing but successful implementation which will benefit landlords & d tenants,

hmm i dont get it
are you presuming when the bill is passed the govts builidng wont be charging per month?
Its a law that is binding on all players in the real estate market so nobody will be above the law

i agree, 3-6 months advance may be better than a month.
but 2 years is a sin

Yeah, the heat is on 'your people' now. See how you felt it from Shanghai!

dont mind that jackie chan joh

Any target that can be hit to affect the Federal Government and make it reconsider it's stance is a legitimate target - these include assets of Federal Agencies such as the NNPC, especially when related to oil and gas and when there is a perception of neglect of the Niger Delta in favour of other areas

and what if other groups, (maybe Lagos state thru OPC) and some others start bombing everywhere, do you think Nigeria will be the same?
if the CBN, Stock exchange, airports, Geneal hospitals are bombed today, the sufferings will be X2

There is no justification for any attempt to destroy 'our assets' cos of one misplaced priorities from some disgruntled social misfits!!
i will start taking them seriously when they start shelling the houses of those that have benefitted from the loot amongst them

The Iboris, the others that are directly responsible for the misappropriation of the 'little' approtioned to the sector shld be taken first
wht happened to the huge sums given to the ompadecs, NDC and some others?

How can i take a group known to belong to dreaded cult groups while in school seriously?
were they not the same set of people killing and maiming innocent PH people cos they wanted to show how powerful they were

The henry Okah i knew years back was into the buying and selling of guns to cultists and political machineries and pls how come hes now a freedom fighter? Tom and Sagbama george?
how are they different from Lucifer in the Enugu/Benin Metropolis years back?
these are  gun totting blood sucking demons championing  maybe a genuine course.

Pls, let there be sincerity of purpose in all we do or hence na anarchy go end am

tayo4lif:
Fhemmmy i have to agree with the igboman this time. fashola is an idiot. how is fashola stand up for us. MEND want to set us free from the north. And fashola is against it. who is fashola supporting the south or the North , Fhemmmy tell me. fashola should resign. Fashola should be buying guns for MEND or OPC. not saying nonsense.

e be like say fashola don demolish this guys shop for Oshodi
agbero

please name your state of origin and hometown so MEND can go make a statement against the FG and Yaradua there.

Its all for the cause.

very correct!

Somebody call Aloy.Emeka. . . . his wife is spazzing out again. . .  

Shebi tkb417 na sell-out na?

she wasnt talking about me
i guess she didnt know you were refering to me so come off it
i no be sell out joh

tayo4lif:
Ibime, OPC would do no sure thing. fashola is an idiot and a tool of the north. He should resign as governor if he does not want to support the common man. MEND is a freedom fighting group. And if MEND is ready to free yoruba people from the hands of the north. Why not. Look fashola have not don anything for yoruba people or try to free us from the north. why should we believe in fashola. why?. MEND now comes to save us, fashola is crying, for what. fashola should shut up and let MEND continue thier duties. if they do not shut down the nigeria system and the north continue to collect oil money. there would never been a change and because people like fashola are making so much money for oppressing yoruba people. he want MEND to stop.

Jesu Kristi!!!
who be this mungo park?

Its yet another day and im one of the living
father i thank you.

their is no one like you

Typical Nigerian Thieving chief! This drama widely explicates our light-fingered rulers zeal for immediate wealth and huge property acquisition. This Nigeria sha! Chei, he is even stating the car spec! Full option!

Emperoh, this man wan smear ur reputation

Ibime:
You cant clean what is feeding you. . . . quite simple. . .

What JTF have failed to achieve in 5 years, you think say na OPC go achieve am. . . . as we dey yarn sef, OPC dey gbadun MEND. . . . cos gangsta dey respect gangsta. . . . especially the one wey pass him level.

**hiss**
i dont have ur time again. ur own na when i reach PH i go declare u wanted

sley4life:
Fashola cant do anything here. What they destroyed is FG owned.

yeah right
the people they killed were Govts children too.
They dont have families. so cos of that, they can come and blow everybody in the stock exchange cos ist Govts property?
i dey kolo for hear o

tayo4lif:
Who is fashola fight for, us or the North. Fashola is a tool of the north. And fashola needs to go. We do not want fashola as governor again. Fashola can go and leave in abuja. Fashola ole.

go to the open university for some adult education b4 u can earn the right to discuss where enlightened people are having some jaw jaw
gerrout of here

One" Igbo boi told you and that automatically translates to the opinion of the Igbo community?
Must you drag in the name Igbo into every thread before you can have a balanced discussion?

Leave us out of this abeg, we aint collaborating with nobody. Once beaten, twice shy.

why shld i take u seriously and disregard his comments?
who says ure speaking the mind of the others?

sit down somewhere and stop spewing poppycocks!!

and by the way, i cant remember when last i dragged the name iGBO into any of my post
what medicine have u been taking?

Keep laughing. . . . shebi you were laughing last year when JTF attacked MEND factions in Tombia. . . or last month when JTF was shelling Gbaramatu whilst painting the picture that MEND was on its last legs. . . I have heard all these utterances before. . . . you would have thought MEND was easy to squash. . . . now its Lagos, and you are still laughing. . . . you will be laughing when they hit Abuja as well. . . .

The Nigerian army has already signified defeat by offering amnesty. . . . you cannot kill what you cannot see. . . . Nigeria is down to 800,000 bpd from 2.4m. . . . keep laughing. . . . by 2015, Nigeria turns to Somalia like US intelligence accurately predicted. . . . keep laughing all the way to the British/Yankee embassy to queue for visa. . . .

I feel sorry for Fashola. . . . he is the only one trying to make things work within a corrupted system. . . . attacks on FG installations in his state will definitely scare investors. . . . but as long as injustice is perpetuated in Nigeria, they will continue. . . .

and the dirge continues.   .   .    .
the only reason why this has gone for long is because they were doing it 'inhouse'
any attempt to escalate to other regions will endanger ur life and others cos it wont take a day for the whole region to be cleaned
continue basking in ignorance and be championing tomfoolery. na u sabi

ur eyes go open soon

In that regard, Fashola is right and chose his words well - Lagos and Lagosians are in full support of the agitation of the Niger Delta, and are in their own right fighting against the same Federal Government. You cannot attack Lagosians and expect their governor to be silent.

minus me. what agitation?
let them kill the Iboris first b4 killing us in Lagos

Ibime
one Ibo boi just told me that one of the guys killed was an IGBO man in the military
so expect a full scale collabo between awon boiz and the Igbo community

so no where to hide

MrCrackles:
Awon boiz will shiver if they ask they prompt them. . . . .

u think so? hmm
awon boiz are every ready for stuffs like this
just let the Govt give "us" the go ahead?

na massive H.I.T u go see
just siddon dey look

The Last time I check the Oil going to Lagos was coming from Niger Delta so they have the right to blow any pipeline producing Oil or Gas. Fu ck Fashola .

fool

itk419. . . . . he who swallows a long pistle must sleep standing upright. . . .

If your Awon boiz are feeling funky, they should go and cut Niger-Deltan throats. . . . they wont find any!. . . . like play, like play, all Niger Deltans in Lagos will turn to Igbos, speaking Igbo dialect so fluently, you wouldn't be able to tell if they are Niger-Deltans or Igbos. . . .    

On the other hand, it will be impossible for Yorubas in Port-Harcourt to disguise themselves. . . . H-factor and tribal marks will give away their identity in a jiffy!

u dey crase
have you forgotten the Egbesun and OPC fiasco years back?
you want another one? you know it was a landslide victory for awon boiz?
lemme tell you somethin
it got to a stage, ND people were scared of the beheading and stuffs tht awon boiz told dem they have an option of diving into the lagoon under the watchful eyes of dem boiz

now, no such options will suffice cos we know u guys can swim? na total onslaught if u try bomb Lagos again

una dey crase

u this Ibime, na me go catch u myself

let them bomb Lagos again and lets see if awon boiz will not go and be cutting the throats of the Niger Delta people in Lagos

they just want to cause wahala for the law abiding ones in lagos cos Lagosians can be wicked atimes

In this case, nobody will wear masks, it will be termed reprisal attacks on Lagos and i bet many will be slaughtered

Let the Ibimes tell them to go to Asaba or Abuja and stop disturbing us in Lagos

On a lighter note, i saw the Navy this morning with plenty guns parading the apogbon axis of the bridge
there are no dirty creeks you can hide here o
if den catch u for Lagos, na die be dat

simeipiri:
Kaecy5
Just for your information i started paying my house rent 6 years ago. I'm married with 2 kid so please don't insult me.
If i work for a big company and you don't thats none of my business.
Monthly rent can't work in Nigeria and thats just my own opinion.
How many months quit notice do you give a tenant that pays monthly. Think again before you write, i know Nigerians would definetly abuse this.
Nigeria is good at solving problems from the top and never getting to the root of it. Solutions that would last for months and before you know it we are either back to where we are or even worse
For me, just a silly idea

hmm,
where do i start?
monthly rent cannot work in Lagos becos of what?
apart from rent, what other bills do you pay in advance in Nigeria?
and why is domestic rent different from the other rents we have in Nigeria

are you having problems with the implementation afterwards or the authenticity of the bill?
leave implementation till the bill is passed!
I marvel at the thoughts of people who think we can only thrive in abyss?
what a negative way if thinking!
Bill can be passed and can be implemented!

pete:
Back to the issue. a poster was right, some of us who supports the bill live overseas, but also, we're also part of the few investing in commercial properties in Lagos, as such we may not be squatting overseas.

Another poster did opined that, there is been a lot of housing effort by the govt. that's true, i never had the presence of mind to look into that. I do however remember that, that same Jakande estate rents at the ongoing price and terms too.

Another poster did lucidly state-which I think is true-that the laws of supply and demand would be the final arbiter in this case and you should be able to guess who "she" is giving judgement in favour of.

Truly, govt. could not build a hundred million homes, but it could at the least build enough to change the scenario. Build more and build more. We've got the money, so why not.?

how can a Jakande estate that was built many years ago still be going for the same rent as those houses just built?
if thts the case, then the BILL should hurriedly be passed!

The bill is seeking to check the arbitrariness in pricing and supply of housing in Lagos. The bill is not hoping to shut the means of income of the  house owners! How can you say the forces of demand and supply is the only way prices of commodities can be determined?
what is the role of a Government ina free market situation?
why do we have laws in a country?
if their is no law that regulates pricing, then i can as well build a house today and decide to recoup my investment from year 1.
The reason why we have some of our commodities overpriced are due to the regulatory inefficiencies in some of our sectors in this country
how can Rent be going for 1.2 million per annum on a land that was bought for 100k 15 years back?
is that how its done where you claimed you live?
can you buy a property for 50k GBP and rent it out for 20k per annum?

do you know the cost of housing in Nigeria is much more expensive than you have where you live?
Do you know that some land goes for as much as 500million naira in Lagos?
how did they come up with the valuation?

who are the buyers?
who are the sellers?

Things have to be in black and white for sanity to prevail
you just dont assume the forces of demand and supply will adjust for pricing? where is it done?
you get paid monthly, yet you pay in yearly instalments? how bizzare?

someone said their isnt a way a tenant can be checked if he/she will respect his/her obligations?
how do the banks in Nigeria check for credit worthiness?
or dont they give loans?

make we hear word

FYI: i work in a top coy and get paid well and i just dont see any common sense in whats happening?
Its abitrary, evil and shld not henceforth be condoned!
simple

@tbk417 the I should be a 1 and how far with your vehicle search?Let me know if you would still need our service.

hello Jesarmy

i will send you a mail shortly on my options

thank you for the report.
grateful

Father Lord, i thank you for today
i thank you for ur grace and mercies that endureth forever
Ure worthy to be praised.

Glory be to God in the highest!

Mark my words - with CR7 leaving the EPL, Arshavin will prove himself as the best player in the league.

not when you guys go trophyless/come 4th/5th

his heroics might go unnoticed

Arshavin scores FOUR against a side that raped you home and away and he is mediocre?

Prince Nasri annihilates you single handedly at the Emirates and he is mediocre?

I must ask Baba Dibia to get us many more of such 'mediocre' players

How can Arshavin be mediocre?

tht boi can play footie abeg

Priceless. . . . . .FACT!

is this ur defination of wht you call FACT?
thts his opinion bros

You and I know the only reason Berbatov benched Tevez was because he was 30mil
Let's stop acting like football is black and white . . . expensive players get more chances to prove themselves
Veron was proven to be crap in one month, it took three years for him to leave the EPL

are u saying SAF is an idiot?
i beg to differ

BTW . . . Tevez didn't leave because he couldn't get a shirt, he left because he didn't get a contract.

semantics.   .    .   . he didnt get a contract cos he couldnt tie down a shirt
will anyone blink b4 giving Rooney a new contract? NO

hes a mediocre and hence the treatment

Berba shld get his dose too next season if he doesnt measure up
we are an institution where we accomodate only the best
we are Manchester United!!!

MrCrackles:
Scumtwats - I laugh in Wollof!

sorry o, who send u, if u like laff in ibibio

how nice, do i look like a devil to u?? huh?

well, sorry to disappoint am a gunner and objective one too,

okidoki

Don't forget most of those law makers are landlords, My advise to tenant is go build your own, and if you can't at the moment keep believing God.

Lagos tenants are trouble makers, no one wants to pay for anything in naija the risk of not getting paid your rent is too high.

do u own the house you stay in the UK?
and if not, do you pay a year advance in rent?

cant get the drift?

like u guys don't encroach on our space, bloody hypocritess!!!

are u a gunner? tot u were a manc in disguise