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debuscket:
igbo mulu nze muo ozo, ekene mu unu oh
Anambra ndi oma mji eme onu, mmamma nu oh
onitsha ndi nwe m, ekenekwa m
Ihe eji abu onitsha erika
anambra adigo mma, nye aka kodi mma

Otua ka odi

Mana kedu ihe Onitsha gwalu obosi

Biko kowalu nu umu igbo

Kedu okeipku na asadike ..odenigboaroli na ugomba ebe ka unu no....

Hopeathand Nwa ikwerre ..bia ebe a fulu na Anya ..ndi our oil

Kam choo obele okwu

Kedu peppyluv

MrEverest:
Ya bu na onye nwe Erisco Foods bu onye ulo unu, mana nwoke ahu bu onye apari, ezigbo efulefu ka obu. Ndi ka ya n'abu "sabo" n'oge ogu! Onye Iberibe ahu enweghi ike igbaso nzo ukwu ndi Anambra ndi dika Innoson, Chikason na ndi ozo ndi ruru ulo nruputa ihe na obodo ha, ya eburu nke ya gawa n'ala yoruba!! Tufiakwa Ya!!!

Eziokwu ka ikwulu..mana chelu....Ife ina ede obu anambra


Erisco but atulu..onye obuna ma nke ahu ...chefuo ya bikozie mana ndi balu uru dika BENGAS na ndi be anyi na evuneta aku uno nokwa ya

Chiwude:
The free education is not really free per say for indigent Imo students, they still pay some additional fees not captured by the 20,000 subsidized payment given by the IMSG.

Second, OP I see your post as mischievous for trying to drag APC/PDP party politics into this issue. Before the coming of Rochas Imo state have always played the big brother role to students from other state even to its own disadvantage.

Where were you when Imo during Udenwas tenure charged the lowest fees (12,500) in the whole SE/SS as against other state owned universities. Imo state as at then had the highest population of non-indigent students on admission, even when neighbouring Abia, Rivers, and Anambra sticked to their stance by giving admission to mainly their students while super charge other non-indigenous students with exorbitant fees.

Where where you when during Ohakim's tenure the population of non-indigenous students surpassed students of Imo state origin, when even then, Abia under Theodore Orji sticked to his guns by charging students of Imo state as well as others, double of what indigenous Abians where charged.

So if Imo state decide to now favour it's indigenous students at least for once, why should it concern you. If not double standardness I see no reason whatsoever why you should even start this thread. Because it's obvious your intentions are not genuine and only out to drag Rochas name in the mud.

I am anambra man born and bred in imo state...Owerri is my land of birth and during udenwa (onwa) era Imsu was the lowest state university ..FUTO was paying 4500 IMSU Was paying 7500 this was during udenwa era and I graduated from the state ....so why do people bring disunity in igbo land

Yes the economy is a bit bad but that doesn't mean that IMO hates anambra

Anambra na imo bu nwanne

Saladin25:
your mumu no get comparison at all. You use your senses to talk not your anus

Must you abuse ? Why are people Ill trained

Ok I have seen you .

Have you blamed Jonathan today ? Ask your pal that


But taraba ..why alwyas the north ?

Well the average abookkii is used to sitting on the floor ..so it is bringing culture to university.. That's is understandable

Jesusloveyou:
not before independence,but before d coming of d white(portugees)in 1430s, benin empire controls all from onitsha to lagos to togo, d only empire in west african

Shut up...Benin has never controlled Onitsha ...don't price market you can't buy

Pls face your western brother and progenitors

Nwulia:
holiday Inn emechila,ma e bi na otu nkwo onicha.

Kedu si ebe umu guys na aku si ikpu ?

Nwulia:
kedu Onye ebe bu,abu m Onye Awkuzu na OYI LGA.

Kedu maka holiday inn? Ina eje kwa ebe ahubenwe anuli

Abum Nnewi south (amichi) ndi be chisco na ndi otu fa..

Anyi nwelu madu dika Edwin umeozuoke the former speaker in Nigeria ..nwekwa ndi ozo dika erisco foods na yago wine ...any na e produce kwa gas cooker be anyi...BENGAS ..juo ese
All in all ...anambra nwelu madu


Udi ndi dika gi

ibedun:
How authentic is this news? Open heart surgery no be beans o and news of this nature coming from that region ought to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Oga igbo has passed that stage ...heart surgery is moi moi....

The first open heart surgery was done in Nigeria by an igbo doctor in UNN nsuka ...so don't talk as if its a new one

This was in 70s so we have advanced long ego

These are why igbo are proud and calls bubu bluffs

amtaken:
Anambra my Anambra, oh how I love thee.


God bless Anambra and everyone that has connection with her.


Ndi Anambra goribezienu oooo maka n'ihe adigo mma.

Oga adili yi mma nne

Nwulia:
Good one coming from my own state.

Nne onye ebe ka ibu na anambra

Nwanyi oma
Enebe ukwu egbuo efi
Enebe ikpu ede cheque

Asadike bu omuma asa aru

Brilliance9000:
I strongly believe, if Igbos are allowed to rule this country for only 10 yrs, they will change Nigeria for real. The white man knows this! I have followed the news on Nairaland for months now, 80% of successes and feat in invention, innovations, education, technology, manufacturing e.t.c., in Nigeria have all come out of SE. Yesterday was Innoson Group servicing Nigerian Air force jets with parts...I couldn't believe it until I saw the Chief of Air Staff with Mr. Innocent. Everyday, I read about a success from this people!

Igbo as it seems are not interested in this ruling ...they wanna go home ....they are tired of been unevenly yoked with unyokable entities

Nigeria knows that igbo are enigmatic that's why they are afraid to let her go

Imagine if hausa says they wanna leave ....the whole Nigeria will do send forth party for them


But they cajole igbo to stay .

john4reala:
I rep. Ukpor
Nnewi adibago mma oooo
Ndi ofe mmanu ga ebido anya ukwu kita

.... if dem born Google well translate this

Nwanne madu...kedu ka eke si Anya anwu...odiegwu dirikwa ebube ....otito dili Chukwu na be anyi adiba go mma


Google na ndi ofe lie nsi mkpi ....Google won't translate this

Timileyin008:
I am a Yoruba dude o but truth be told I so much trip for these set of peeps they are the only peeps that would make me wish to be igbo..

Thank you for saying the truth wishing to be one of us ..may lord bless you.
Yoruba I think are intellectual but they have failed to realise that ....we need a developed south Nigeria at least for now before Biafra comes ..thats left for God to decide not me nor you or nnamdi

Sojebrand:
like WTF are you for real please if you don't know what to type, just do the needful

Maybe with the way he is going he might need the heart surgery due to his bitterness

In the meantime he should keep his highBP kits handy...cos the attack is imminent


Unless he changes

Pls where are the nnewi south peeps here ...I am on hailing mode

Anambra ekene m unu
Ndi Igboukwu ikwu nne m ...ikpele m no na ani
Ndi igbo mmamma nuo

Oga adili igbo mma


Chukwu dube anyi

Otolo gbagbuo ndi osu imi....Google can't translate this
Kitipka gbarie fa


Udo

josite:
i have examined all shades of view on this matter.and i conclude,prince eweka the first king of benin was actually a son of oranmiyan and an eko princess and the present OBA OF LAGOS confirmed that and that was why he is known as OMO NOBA meaning a prince.


but it is clear oduduwa himself came from somewhere and that place he comes from is benin so it is not a suprise that he sent oranmiyan back to benin and when oranmiyan coudnt achieve the desired goal,renamed the town ile ibinu and on his sojourn through eko gave birth to eweka who later become the first of oba of benin.

benin is yoruba and yoruba is benin and the cultures and the dresses and the religion attests to this as yorubas and binis are on the same level when it comes to juju.

You made a nice analysis but the juju part .....hmmmm

Rayhut:
To me the Benin version of Oduduwa been one of the son of Oba of Benin that conquered the Yorubas and impose oba title on Yorubas is more realistic and truth like than Yoruba version of fathers of Oduduwa or Oduduwa himself falling from haeven with a rooster and palm fruits creating ile ife, sound just like a concocted story to cover up their colonization by Benin prince Oduduwa which was one of the sons of Oba of Benin

Same with me ...I am trying to figure out how some dude will come for dinner m sky ....but I just observe that all

Myde4naija:
If the binnis don't want to associate themselves with yoruba I think its fine but you need to work on one thing




Stop using OBA, because you don't need and historical proof to tell you OBA is purely Yoruba language

But there is Oba in igbo language though it means different thing altogether

DICK4UCKPUSSY:
Learn by arguing what they don't know

I think it is not their forte...Benin has spoken and made their position known right from their oba ...I think that should be respected ...pls do you have any Benin monarch or king in afenifere group ..this will be another pointer ...

Just like saying that English uses the term Baron and Scots or Irish uses the term Baron doesn't make Irish English

Or that igalla and idoma uses the term ochi meaning to rule in igbo that doesn't make igalla igbo

Yet igalla and igbo have cultural relationship


But I do t think any sane igbo will impose fraternity in igalla..but I am sure that utsen speak a mixture of Benin and Yoruba ..that might be the link

As of oduduwa tales... That's way beyond me ...e pass me so i can't talk on that subject

DICK4UCKPUSSY:
To cut the story short benin re not yoruba but oba of benin throne is a property of yoruba.
Whether they like it or not the head of oba of benin must rest in ile -ife

Things like this you shouldn't use the term weather they like it on not..it is imposing ...I think you have to convince them with superior argument ...that's a bit matured and intellectual

Don't you think ? I like your position butbe empirical and factual

Super1Star:
The linguistics are very different. Yorubas are not Binis and vice versa. That is an established fact.

How did their kingdom reached Togo without passing through Yorubaland? How come there is no where in Benin Republic or Togo where their language is being spoken, whereas Yoruba is widely spoken in Benin Republic and Togo and which was due to the fact that we conquered a large part of their land. They should us any part of those lands where there could be traces of their influence.

We stand by the fact that their title, crown and throne remains yorubas and the ruling dynasty is from our lineage. We are also repeating that fact that the Oba cannot deny it. If he can, he should and let us put the matter to rest forever, but I am sure he knows the consequence.

We are not interested in their land but they can also not take away the fact that the throne and crown and Oba's title is ours. They used to name their Kings Ogiso.

Oga the word eko is Lagos name and it is a Benin word and mind you they must have used Benin language as an aristocratic language during those days leaving egun,awori and Yoruba for everyday...they might not also be interested in imposing their language

The Romans spoke Latin but allowed the people they ruled to speak their language they considered that barbarian language ....

Just an observation ....the issue i s twy the term oba houkd be known who owned it..me I am observer and learning

Super1Star:
Don't get it twisted. Benin people were and are and will never be Yorubas.

However, the title of their king, the crown of their king and his throne are all ours. He is a descendant of the House of Oduduwa. Ghat is the undeniable fact.

We have dared the Obama to declare he is not from the House of Oduduwa. If Benin people say they are not, of course they are not but that throne cannot dare say that.

They should look for their lost wandering son somewhere else. Maybe he followed a mermaid to the lost city of Atlantis or wandered east to establish the Khoi Khoi tribe.

It doesn't concern me if they are or not...but to be honest with you..I stayed in Benin aroing GRA near airport for two years plus and I now live in Lagos I have not seen any linguistic similarities between the two culture

But I know that Benin empure was influential towards the western Nigeria to Togo and I believe that the title oba that yoruba uses was borrowed from Benin ..this is just my observation. ...I am no historian just observation and candid

There might be relationship between the Benin and Yoruba if I can say cos there is a place called utsen in edo state they speak a mixture of Yoruba and Benin


So its neither here nor there ...but it is left for the Benin to decide ...but one thing that can't be taken away is that the Benin had influence in Yoruba land and maybe Yoruba also had influence ( which can be proved ) with facts


Just like saying that the igbanke had Benin influence in edo state but that doesn't make them benins but igbos


As I said I am just learning history not to yab nor diss sir

kernel504:
IS IT THAT YOU ARE NOT PROUD BEEN A YORUBA MAN, WHY THE IGBO MONIKER?

COWAR....

Thank lord you have noticed that and it took me centuries to even reply him

DICK4UCKPUSSY:
Igbos all over the thread

Can't believe people with no history can have guts to argue with yorubas with rich history.

Call an Abia and anambra men together and ask who is the father of all igbos they will end beating themselves

Sir igbo are here to learn ..is it wrong to have igbo reading this

I think you should face the subject matter and leave igbo out of this


Igbo must be enigmatic

ObidikeObinna:
This is intense obsession

There is no day this man posts without mentioning Yorubas

Are you sure they are not your nemesis?

Did you see the dialogue ...the guy claimed that Benin are Yoruba the Benin man said he'll no he is not a yoruba

Instead of convincing him..he came around to call IPOB and Biafra

That's the funniest thing

If the Benin claim they ain't Yoruba that should be respected ....why call igbo into that again


Maybe he has an igbo masquerade chasing him in his dream


We have to respect people wishes that's all andface argument squarely

Faith111:
Grandparents -Different geopolitical zones.
Parents -Different geopolitical zones...
Myself -Very far from hubby..Different state, Culture and Language.

You still did not answer his questions
What tribes are they from

Yoruba and igbo even ijaw can be found in different political zones

This is why I hate inter tribal marriage
It confuses the kids
It makes them lack confidence i n their tribes

You have proved that now

OLISEH IS A PUNK

NOno noooooooooooooooooooooo you are not rude, I like yoir postulations...very intellectual at some point we have to disagree to agree...yes I will not make a blanket statement that AA are more of Thug culture but we have to look at the Stats, we still have nice educated AA but we are looking at the ratios here possibly in the neigbourhood of 3: 13 possibly...maybe it has to with with a lot of factors

complacency
free R and B culture
the Big Philly culture of partying and having barbeque day in day out( Dont mistake it..its a good idea to be laid back) but it should not be everytime
The AA in ATL are really doing great even the ones in Detriot...I was thinking that Detriot will be in sorry state when the declared bankrupt but the rose like sphinix


I will not make a blanket statement...bro your on point...we tend to have a convergence of ideas somewhere

KidStranglehold:
The long post was just trying to point out to you that YES I AGREE that there are more "AA thugs" in America in than Nigerian, but there are also successful and stable AA communities. I even posted links detailing that many blacks in the city of Atlanta have college degrees. I assumed you ignored it, because in this thread you keep repeating that AA culture only revolves around "thug culture" which is false.

If I came off as rude or bashing Nigerians if I apologize. Its just that I am getting annoyed of the narrative thrown around here that AAs culture is only thug culture or AAs don't care about education.

To answer your question. Yes music has always been a big part of AA culture, I will admit that from Blues, gospels, early Rock, R&B, Soul and Hip Hop. But still not all AAs are trying to be rappers. Its only the ones in poverty who have no education options(they cant afford it) and so they turn to rapping or sports. As notice many AA rappers/athletes come from poor backgrounds. But the middle class AAs are not trying to be rappers and athletes since they are going to college. I never knew an AA in the middle class trying to be a rapper.

Once again I will admit when it comes to college Stem degrees are not degrees AAs usually go after, but I do in fact see many especially when I went to Atlanta go after business degrees. And I'm seeing more of it. Like I said my younger generation of AAs are going to college more often and are going to prison less often.

What you and others have to grasp is that we in America have poverty just Africans have poverty. I'll admit that the poverty in America may not be as severe as the poverty in Africa, but it is still poverty nonetheless. With poverty comes crime to make a living. It seems like AAs are all criminals or thugs because the image America sends to the world(America has a large media), just like we in America assume Africa is all poor because what the media sends to us! But I know this is not true for Africa and there are actually countries like Nigeria and Angola that are growing!

Like I said, yes indeed there are a good amount of AA "thugs", but we cant ignore the good amount of successful AA communities. This video supports my point in Atlanta which is considered an "AA mecca" having a lot of AA businessmen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQKAW_PaZmA

^^^Is that not chasing the American dream?

As for AA culture again it is large and not "thug culture". If you want a good read on AA culture, you should checkout this thread I made on another site.
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/refuting-the-myth-that-black-american-music-culture-is-europeanized.280978/

AA culture is actually more "southern" than it is "urban Hip Hop."

And once again this thread is NOT to bash Nigerians or try to discredit Nigerian accomplishments, BUT TO GRASPS the concept on why Africans/Nigerians may seem to be doing better than AAs in America.


Once again I APOLOGIZE if I cam off as rude/bashing Nigerians. I didn't mean for that.

sugah:
Save your prayers for yours, thank you

Madam abi na Oga

No be quarel ..I know it hurts but the truth must be told