Obiagu1: One of the major reasons I want Biafra is to avoid Islam incursion into Igboland.
I bet you, if we remain in Nigeria, in 20 years time, Igboland would be a war zone between the Igbo and the Fulani just like it is in Jos.
We don’t have upper hand at all. Fulani fighters don't have residency, they don't have women and children to protect. They simply sneek in at night and slaughter everyone with no army to protect us.
This is why I think One Nigeria Igbos are big fools.
We need Biafra and an army to protect us.
You are right here ..who really associates with Islam
noblezone: I was watching Aljazera the other day. They showed an Islamic School with one Malam teaching the ways of Allah.
A little girl was later interviewed" She wanted to be a medical doctor but at the Islamic school, she has changed her mind. She now wants to study Islam and Sharia.
Islam is primitive in her teachings! She trains her followers to become Jihardists: men and women who shed innocent blood for the love of Allah.
NO normal thinking person will want to associate with Jihardists. Look at how messed up Northern Nigeria is?
I think this is one of the reason Biafra wants out ..look at the mess in north of Nigeria
nwanlecha: May Chukwu Okike Abiama bless Carlos Chiwendu, the writer of this article. I think it should be shared on as many platforms as possible, in order to educate some of our ignorant people. Thank you @tonychristopher for bringing this wonderful piece to us. I have been truly blessed by it.
Some days ago we were having a chat with some proponents of Biafra and those that were against and for it . we were a mini nigerai in that bar just some igbos and other nigerians as from their interactions I realised that igbos had a valid point to want out
They do not want an Islam infested society and this will hamper their developments. They came to the conclusion that Islam is an and problem to global peace and having Biafra will make any Islam incursions treated as an external aggression and if Biafra isn't granted that be hard .as we see in kogi and jos today.
Now look at France ..they gave the Islam refugee these refugees turn back to bomb their host.... This is bad
This has been Biafra case knowing that east and south south are 99% Christians and won't want to be associated with Islam so they want their own country
Next thing I realised in that discussion is that edo folks want to join Biafra especially the esan axis ..I asked them why ? They said that they have lived and married Igbo for millennium and they are predominantly Christians and can't imagine been in same country with others
Well...I looked at this Biafra issue as mere wishes but their are cogent reasons in these wishes
All I can say is rest in peace to those that died in islamist hands ....after seeing BBC footage on Paris bombing ..I now understand Biafran position on Islam and how they don't want to be associated with anything Muslim
Rest in peace to those died in Paris and north east Nigeria
Jaideyone: dunce it's about correcting that "pure blood/conquer the host" mindset of yours. it's recipe for disaster. go back to your post and read it out while trying to use your brain
Ritchiee: We all can not think the same way when we are not Zombies.As emotional as your people are about the pogrom or whatever,some of your people still want one Nigeria even on NL here.Our main problem is the distrust between us and it started a long time even before we were birthed.We pray you achieve your heart desire which would pave way for the disintegration of this rickety assemblage...
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Pls don't derail this beautiful thread sir..why talk about progrom why leave in past ..I think you should be brainstorming on how to salvage western Nigeria from the financial miasma they are in
Pls forget Biafra ...it will do you so many good ...don't divert the attention and make suggestions and the sensible ones have been making here pls
zuchyblink: My points and facts from geographical, topographical evidence of those areas in Abia State, Imo State, Anambra state and Anioma areas and is that Igbos don’t have to take any other tribe land or Sea to have access to the Atlantic Ocean. The international law of the sea guarantees Igbos access to the sea peacefully by the many short distance rivers, waterways, tributaries etc. that flows into the Atlantic ocean from Igboland. nigeria map My point is that in Abia State, Imo State and Anambra State Igbos have access to the Atlantic Ocean by a shorter distance of dredging Imo River, Azumiri River, River Niger in Anambra and many water ways, tributaries and oguta lake etc. have a very short distance access to Atlantic Ocean shorter than Portharcourt Port sea port, Calabar sea Port and Ibaka sea Port in Akwa Ibom State. Many of these access including Imo River, Azumiri Rivers etc. all flows into the Atlantic Ocean and many of them with about 15 to 30 Nautical miles into Atlantic Ocean less than far away Calabar Sea Port, Onne Sea port and Ibaka Akwa Ibom Sea Port that are further out to Atlantic than some of those in Igboland by geography and topography. For example “Fact one, IkwerreLand/Porharcourt and Porthhacourt seaport was dredged 40 to 50 Miles to sea from the Bonny River to Atlantic Ocean. Onne Sea Port in Ogoni land was dredged 50 to 60 Miles to Sea from Bonny River for Larger ships to Atlantic Ocean. Calabar Seaport was dredged 45 nautical miles to Atlantic Ocean. Akwa Ibom Ibaka deep seaport is about 30 nautical miles to Atlantic Ocean. Compare that to Obuaku Ndoki Port in Abia State which is only 25 nautical miles to the Atlantic Ocean from the confluence of Imo River and Azumiri (blue River) in Abia State, which is a large and deep body water of high flowing and rich rivers. Azumiri Blue River in Abia State is also 25-30 nautical miles to Atlantic Ocean for a big Seaport and big ships. Compare that to Northern Nigeria, Kano, Kaduna, Maiduguiri, Chad, Niger, Central African Republic which are about 2000 (two Thousand) mile to 3000 (Three Thousand ) Miles to the nearest sea or Atlantic Ocean and which takes any way from two weeks to one month for heavy goods and services to get to the nearest seaport or ocean for export or importation at a very high cost. The possibility of a Seaport in Igboland is real and absolutely possible. We are able and the facts are real and on ground and you know it. Stop your Nigeria deceit and agony that have kept Nigeria in pain for ages. Also, We Igbos are at peace not at war with our brothers and sisters from Akwa Ibom State, Cross Rivers State, Rivers State, Ibibios, Ijaws, Efik etc, in Niger Delta, South South and Niger delta. When you look at the situation in Former Eastern Region we live in perfect peace with them and Igbos work with them to maintain the peace and harmony that is existing today among all the tribes of former Eastern Region, South South and Niger Delta. We vote together, we fought together, We are mixed by DNA and blood going thousands of years. Nigerian factors of hate and division no matter how bad from the civil war experience has not divided us, but rather we all have learned good experiences from the civil war error to respect and honor each other today in this new age going forward. Afis, Please look at the where and places that hatred and division is in high gear, The killing fields of Middle belt, the killing fields of plateau, the killing fields of Southern Kaduna, the Killing fields of Benue State and Taraba, The killing fields of Adamawa, the killing fields of Borno, the Killing fields of Nothern Oyo State, The klling fields of Nothern Yoruba States, the Killing fields of Kwara and Kogi State , the Fulani killing fields, the killing fields of Kano, the Killing fields of Kaduna and above all the killing fields of Boko Haram in all of Northern and Western Nigeria. All these hatred have killed and massacred about one million people in the last 30 years from religious and ethnic hate and animosities in these areas. None of these consistent large scale killings and deep hatred of ethnic and religious killing fields and massacre have ever happened in Eastern Region, South south or South east or Niger delta region. Igbos are at peace with their neighbors. The massive and consistent ethnic and religious hatred and killings fields of the Northern Nigeria, Middle Belt and Northern Yoruba areas should worry you now more, because even General Gowon cannot even go home in peace to live in his village or town. Former Eastern region is at peace and we know it. Source: Ugo Ukandu
If you had been a Babe I would have given u a good head job but it is unfortunate I don't give head jobs again and you are a man
tevinsolt: Lack of foresight, begets chaos. The premise this nation has built upon would never allow it, to move forward ever. Forced unity can only last for so long. Biafrans (as they refer themselves) were forced into staying Nigerians after their first attempt of seceding. The first trial is all that's needed to sow a seed that will continue to bear fruits season in and season out. No matter how long Nigeria lasts, unborn generations from the SE will continue to be a pain to the Nigerian establishment. They will and can never be satisfied with Nigeria, someone will always try to avenge the deaths of his/her kinsmen whenever they feel they are being suppressed, in our time or the future. Massob, and as of recent Ipob headed by Nnamdi Kanu are testament to my account.
Nigeria needs to let go of Biafra, and a possible result is the total disintegration of Nigeria as we know it, which is fine, it is not a do or die affair like many take it to be. We can all separate and focus on developing distinctly.
I'm Yoruba, If Biafra wants to go, I say the Nigerian Government let her go, so that the important things in life all Humans regardless of race, religion, tribe long for have can be achieved.
let all Yoruba on NL stop giving undue attention to Biafran threads, and stop unnecessarily projecting a "can do without the you attitude." They seriously think Yoruba can't do without them. And what concern of ours is with SS being a part of Biafra anyway?
May God bless you for this superb submission
How I wish most of your folks with think like this
Qelvin: Thanks bruv, one very admirable quality of Yoruba people is their culture of liberality and openness towards dating outside of their own nucleus, and yeah you are right on the conservative part(noticed that in this chic,the way she exudes calm,charm,with this alluring subtlety in her voice that underlies a classy type of freak especially when she speaks yoruba in that sexy Egba dialect of hers...I speak Yoruba btw as I was born and bred in Ibadan), man fvck it Yoruba girls have won me over, Biafra might have to wait cause I ain't leaving this chic anytime soon man.
Just because of Toto ....u leave freedom or self actualisation
DikeOha882: I laugh when I read comments here about accomodating Igbos in civil service, why is that some folks keep lying to themselves, let me tell you that my former hod in marketing dept esut was a yoruba from ondo, by name olakunle olakunori olaniyi.
Shymm3x: But a lot of these folks also work in the state ministries and other agencies across the SW. So they're contributing to the huge recurrent expenditure and debt profiles across the region. You can't just leave ya own region and become pests to other folks. So they should be targeted when it's time to start cutting down government spending across the region.
Yoruba folks are just too stupid and docile for my liking. These are the same folks who told us APC is the best thing since slice bread - but the same APC has destroyed the whole region with utter idiotic fiscal policies.
They told us Tinubu is a maverick, but the same Tinubu has ended up enslaving the region and future generation to enrich himself.
They're the ones who go around fighting Biafrans when Biafrans aren't disturbing them, thus bringing collective shame to Yorubas who don't give two fvcks about Biafra.
These idiots even support Buhari more than Northerners, despite the fact that Buhari intelligently ceded all the sensitive position of power under his government to the North - and gave out the tedious/problematic ones his government would be judged by to the South. Thus making them do the dirty work while the North consolidates its hold on power.
And they're the same fools who tout that "we're accommodating" tripe everywhere to their own detriment, while piling up crazy debts.
To be honest I used to think that you can't talk like this but to be very frank I am very impressed . I love men that call a spade what it is
Nice one bro keep it up...if we all can mind our business nd say the truth we will triumph
One thing is that once you have this pure Igbo blood you are bound to conquer the world not only your host . God made Igbo like that and it is not their making but Igbo
Other countries that had Igbo presidents were Liberia and Sierra Leone
God I thank you that you created me an Igbo ....this I pray in all humility
NAIJASOM: This Igbo youth generation gives hope. The level of intellectual rebuttal they are giving these Pseudo- One nigerianist makes my belief in biafra much stronger. From Pazienza, to Tonychristopher to Blackkie etc. Preach on brothers.
My brother facts are sacrosanct and that is whybitbahoiod be displayed with purity
gistwivkome: I got the shock of my life today when I went to pay for a house and was told by the agent that the landlord would not accept me as a tenant because I am not "Igbo". I even told d guy that I'm not igbo but isoko, a tribe in Delta state. He looked at me like "what's d difference?" I can't believe that in 2015 people still reason this way. To think that I've spent most of my life in Yoruba land and Yoruba is the only Nigerian language I speak and I am still regarded as a stranger in my country. What even baffles me most is that there are Indians living in that same house and I was denied cos I'm not frm a certain part of Nigeria even though I was ready to pay the rent n other fees; which were already on the high side. I'm really embarrassed that we still have such narrow minded and ignorant people in this country. Ajyway, it's d man's loss cos i would av been one of d best tenants he ever and would ever have. *rolls eyes*
Welcome to one Nigeria ..these Niger delta people self ..a monkey can claim sameness with gorilla but we know that a monkey will always be a monkey
So u can speak all the Yoruba and forget your language but u will be reminded by bigots that u are this sobo man
seankay: *World’s First Head Transplant A Success after Nineteen Hour Operation A 36-year-old man has undergone the world’s first successful head transplant. The ground-breaking operation took a team of surgeons 19 hours to complete and has allowed the patient to be cancer-free.
Paul Horner, who was diagnosed with bone cancer five years ago, was on the verge of death when he was approved for the controversial and possibly deadly operation.
Doctor Tom Downey, who was part of the South African team who carried out the operation, told CNN he is thrilled about the results. “It’s a massive breakthrough. We’ve proved that it can be done – we can give someone a brand new body that is just as good, or better, than their previous one.
The success of this operation leads to infinite possibilities.”
Surgeons at Charlotte Maxexe Johannesburg Academic Hospital in SA did the operation in February but had to wait until they could confirm it was successful before they made any public statement.
Downey spoke to reporters on the complexity behind the first ever head transplant. “This procedure is another excellent example of how medical research, technical know-how and patient-centered care can be combined in the quest to relieve human suffering.”
The operation was led by Professor Myron Danus and took place on February 10, 2015.
“Our goal is for Horner to be fully functional in two years and so far we are very pleased by his rapid recovery,” said prof. Danus. “Before the operation, Horner’s body was riddled with cancer and he had less than a month to live. We were fortunate enough to find a donor body; a 21-year-old man who has been brain dead from a serious car accident that happened in 2012. The boys body worked just fine, but his brain was not functioning whatsoever, and there was absolutely no chance of recovery.
He added: “We received approval from the young man’s parents to use their sons body to do the operation. They were extremely happy their son could save a life even in the vegetated state that he was in.”
The man, Horner, has made 85% recovery; walking, talking, doing things a healthy individual does…
World is advancing while some idiots are shouting sai whatever and we are host....I think it is best if we all go to your tents o isreal
As it looks there is so much heard mentality in here ..some idiots are bombing in north and kill at the slightest minimum wanting to take us back to 1376 BC SHARIA WORLD
I dey shame
Very soon if una no wake up dem go use una kids do science experiment- project
Bunch of monkeys ..never thinking always dancing and dancing Black man dey fvck up well
VirginFinder: Having seen/heard/read the ministerial list, there is no doubt Yorubas have bagged most of the 'juiciest' ministerial portfolios.
Of the 7 Yoruba ministers presented, 6 of them got substantive and 'juicy' ministerial portfolios while the 7th is a minister of state in a very sensitive/key ministry.
One of them has even made history by bagging 3 substantive portfolios at the same time.
No doubt, all I can say is congratulations to Tinubu and the entire Yoruba ethnic nationality. Our efforts at bringing about the much desired change in govt has paid off once again just like it paid off when we emerged numbers 2, 3 and 6 in the order of precedence. And in addition to that the Senate Chief Whip position and House Leader position.
To all the my ibo brothers who have been wailing 'used and dumped' , 'Yorubas are slaves' etc at we Yorubas, all I can say is 'ndo'.
Between 2011 and 2015, ibos held sway at the expense of Yorubas. Today, the tide had turned in our favour.
As far as Nigeria is concerned, ibos will NEVER measure up to we Yorubas. You will only die trying.
Nigeria is jointly owned by we Yorubas and the northerners. No more, no less.
If I say ibos are slaves looking for freedom from Nigeria via Biafra, nobody should crucify me.
I'll like to hear from the loud-mouthed, empty chest-beating ibo crew as follows:
chukwudi44 freeglobe onenaira pazienza chessboard victorciza ekafine the housegirl from Akwa Ibom ifeness ecoterrors dialfa xtrorse the rodent sunnyb0b0 eurobomber keneking Emekamex chuna1985 Malawian tonychristopher
This is the time to stand your ground in the face of humiliation rather than run abstain from Nairaland for some days with your tails tucked between your legs like petrified dogs.
Believe you me, I have nothing against ibos. I am only responding to their 5/6-month long wailing on how Yorubas have been 'used and dumped' by their 'abokki masters' in their deluded minds and world of fantasy.
hugobuzz: is there any crime in asking to be on your own? Biafra say them no want una again. they don't want to be part of Nigeria again. is is hard? are they claiming your land? isn't it their land they are going with? Why cry for them? if you love Nigeria so much why not stick with Nigeria? remain in Nigeria if u feel it's working for you and your future. bunch of yelobar hypocrites won't ever face the realities of a failed country called Nigeria. They keep attacking Biafrans for wanting to secede. I have never been able to understand the reasoning pattern of these people.
TonyeBarcanista: Ÿou see my problem with some of you? What is anti-Igbo in the screenshot? Did the Igbo leaders support third term of Obasanjo? Did the Igbo leaders support IBB and even went to court to annul June 12 election? Did the Igbos voted for Ojukwu in 2003 and 2007? Did they voted for Orji Kalu in 2007?
On the reddened: Are the Ijaws not promoting primarily Ijaw interest? So what is anti-Igbo there?
Beside: Have you checked previous comment on the same thread by your Igbo brothers how they attacked the Ijaws(and myself) did I get obsessed over that? If you have a discerning mind you will know where I stand. But if you insist on this lane then I say....Good luck to you ma'am
coolscott: I am Rivers Ijaw and whereas I always thought some parts of Rivers State academically should be classified as Igbo (Ikwere and especially Etche and Omuma) they (Especially Ikwere) claim not to be Igbos so I tend to leave that alone. I am Rivers Ijaw and not on any side of that argument. But I will say that if they choose to cast their lot with Rivers State and expunge all connections with Igbo, then so be it (in the spirit of self-determination). I however must mention that the Ikweres vary from the Igbos to a greater degree than the people of Omuma and Etche and significant among these differences is the difference in method of thinking
Nice post
Tell me the varying degree of thinking methods sir
Kirigidi: D immaturity nd stupidity u pipo display here nd there ar d more reasons we non-Igbo Niger-Deltans distance ourselvs frm ur Igbo Biafra. U pipo ar just too full of urselvs. No civility! No manner of approach! Wat a Bleep? How can we Niger-Deltans trust u or agree to join ur Biafra wen u can't humble urselvs to enter negotiations wit our chosen leaders nd elders? Frankly speakin, I hav not seen a group of pipo so rude, so insultiv, so senseless, nd undeplomatic as these Igbo Biafra Agitators. U want Nigeria to respect ur rights to freedom but on d otherhand, u don't want to respect d rights of Niger-Deltans to dia own pattern of self-determinatn. Wat a hypocracy? We knw u pipo ar just pretenders wit no beta intention for d Niger-Delta region other than lookin for minorities to exploit nd dominate.
We Niger delta? Is that a tribe or a state or geographical position
Which tribe are u stop hiding under nd
Oh we still have majority of Igbo in delta and rivers so Tess mmm
Why exactly have you refused to judge them with the AHIARA DECLARATION? Oh you haven’t? So below is an excerpt from the AHIARA DECLARATION, Maybe a glimpse at it would knock some sense right into your head to know exactly what the Igbo and co wanted. . NEGRO RENAISSANCE ‘We do not claim that the Biafran Revolution is the first attempt in history by the Negro to assert his identity, to claim his right and proper place as a human being on a basis of equality with the white and yellow races. We are aware of the Negro’s past and present efforts to prove his ability at home and abroad. We are familiar with his achievements in prehistory; we are familiar with his achievements in exploring and taming the African and American continents; we are familiar with his achievements in political organisations; we are familiar with these contributions to the world store of art and culture. The Negro’s white oppressors are not unaware of all these. But in spite of their awareness they are not prepared to admit that the Negro is a fellow human and colleague. This is why we in Biafra are convinced that the Negro can never come to his own until he is able to build modern states (whether national or multi-national) based on a compelling African ideology, enjoying real rather than sham independence, able to give scope to the full development of the human spirit in the arts and sciences, able to engage in dialogue with the white states on a basis of transparent equality and able to introduce a new dimension into international statecraft. In the world context, this is Biafra - the plight of the black struggling to be man. From this derives our deep conviction that the Biafran Revolution is not just a movement of Igbo, Ibibio, Ijaw and Ogoja. It is a movement of true and patriotic Africans. It is African nationalism conscious of itself and fully aware of the powers with which it is contending. From this derives our belief that history and humanity are on our side, and that the Biafran Revolution is indestructible and eternal.’ .
Politics › Re: Biafra , Muslim And Global Peace by tonychristopher(op): 1:30pm On Nov 16, 2015
