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 Religion / Re: Do This With Your Tithe Instead Of Giving It To Private Jet Owners (see Photos) by Topgainer: 10:46pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
sympathy55:  Pastor the Pastor! Don't worry tomorrow he will submit the 10% and I believe it will be substantial enough to get Mummy Mama a grade Lexus SUV. Don't forget to tell him about his journey to Hell should he fail to bring 10% of his weekly income that he stole from the gods. It appears Malachi 3:7-10 is not working again on the people. Can you imagine the audacity to build a house for the poor with the gods I think Hell should make him afraid and force him to obey tithe law. Above all, you may need to show him where the tithe law was given to Christians, where Jesus took tithes, where Peter and Paul gave sympathy55: Include Deuteronomy 14, 26 in the Bibles passages you will use to bomb him to position. There it was explained how Christians should tithe, like taking it to the Levites every farming season while the Levites take their part to the temple once in 3 years. He must pay, he is a big fish. 1 Like |
| Religion / Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by Topgainer: 9:05pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor:Annanias and Saphira? The couple that lied against the Holy Spirit, trying to make the Spirit look foolish and He struck them. Never did they give the Brethren 100%. Acts 5. Yes, only Barnabas was recorded to have given 100% under that circumstance. The fact is that they were not obligated, under no law to give, they could as well do whatever they wanted with their money and that would not have made them persona non grata. The study on the life of that couple have nothing to do with the topic at hand. I can engage you on the purpose of Acts 5. But for claiming shamelessly, that they gave 100%. You are no longer on the issue of Church giving 10% as tithe principle, but have shifted to 100% which you can sustain either, I am done with you. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Religion / Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by Topgainer: 8:53pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor:Going into another law when you have failed to tackle the one this thread is about. I don't think anybody in this thread is against giving to the poor and needy basically, but we frown at the fraudulent twisting of the Bible like the tithe crusaders are doing to fund the affluence of the supposed Leaders. Jesus paid for all once. He encouraged us to give to the poor and needy. It is not the same as submitting 10% weekly to -anointed in quote- Gentile Bishop Papa with the foolish idea that it will explode the bank account while giving to the poor neighbours and the needy lacks the explosive reapings. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Religion / Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by Topgainer: 8:40pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor:[s] The early church gave 100% to the Church [/s] Haba, Pastor take it easy. Only Barnabas was recorded to have given 100% of the money he got from the sale of Land to be shared for the disciples welfare. Reading that passage will let you know clearly that such sharings were common to the extent that none lacked in daily supplies. Even when the sharing was having 'technical' issues, it was quickly resolved with the appointment of 7 Deacons. Peter did not buy a super fast chariot under the guise of spreading the gospel with it. Do you think such Luxury and craftmanship were not there then? Can you say the same of the Pastorpreneurs and tithe crusaders you have today? Please, I still need the passage on ' tithe is just a principle' I think I will be enlightened by it. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Religion / Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by Topgainer: 8:17pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor: I thought you have loads of Bible evidences to your 'tithe is just a principle' . You shifted grounds from tithe is a command from God to Christians to it being a principle. I thought you could sustain that but you submitted so fast. Look the idea that tithe is 10% of Christian's wages or salaries paid weekly or monthly to Gentile Papa Bishop has no Biblical Basis whatsoever. It is a scheme that stupendously enriches a few at the expense of the larger Christian population. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Religion / Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by Topgainer: 8:05pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor:I think I have addressed the issue of Abraham up there. It is no longer Mal 3: 7-10. and the Jewish Laws. Good! That makes it easier. Now, Doc, is your tithe according to Abraham? What did Abraham give as tithe and how many times in his life did he do that? Meanwhile, I will appreciate it if you can get me the place that said that Tithe is just a principle before you address the new questions. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Religion / Re: Do This With Your Tithe Instead Of Giving It To Private Jet Owners (see Photos) by Topgainer: 7:58pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
Charlesberry:Instead of talking this way, you should busy yourself with research on Tithe Laws and Command to Christians. Find new Bible passages that can be twisted to mean that 10% of Christian monthly pay must be submitted to Papa Daddy. Better still make plans for a new Bible version that should include your ideas on how to extract money from believers because Mal 3:7-10 is no longer working, since more people are realizing the truth about these Jewish Laws. 1 Like |
| Religion / Re: Do This With Your Tithe Instead Of Giving It To Private Jet Owners (see Photos) by Topgainer: 7:49pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
deebrain:You must be a Pentecostal Pastor, for it to pain you like this. How has the feelings been since more people are beginning to realize that there are no tithe laws extended to Christians and that tithe laws were not 10% of people's wages/salaries submitted weekly/monthly to you and your fellow tithe crusaders? |
| Religion / Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by Topgainer: 7:40pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor:I have shown you where you will find Tithe as a Law that has blessings and curses. I added that no Christian is under such Laws or Curses. Besides, the blessings of a Christian is not dependent on Jewish Customs or Laws. Doc, you have never given tithe in your entire life. The money (10%) you give monthly or weekly is not tithe. Don't pride yourself that you are obeying the Tithe Law. You NEVER did. Please, if you don't mind, I need to see the Bible passage that says Tithe is just a principle. It seems that you quote the words and opinions of Papa Daddy Bishop as though you are quoting the Bible. 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Religion / Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by Topgainer: 7:25pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor:According to my Bible, It is a command and a law, Mal 3:7-10 states there is a curse for not obeying the tithe Law. For people under the Law who refuse to give With this can you kindly show us where the Bible referred to Tithe as just a Principle? By the description of the laws of tithe, in Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy one could see that 10% of money submitted to a gentile Papa weekly is not tithe. Not even Abraham gave his tithe this way. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Religion / Re: Do This With Your Tithe Instead Of Giving It To Private Jet Owners (see Photos) by Topgainer: 12:39pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
horia:It is a command to the Jews and the procedure is clearly spelt out. It is brought to the Temple once in 3 years and taken from the Jews every farming year and there is a free year - Jubilee. There must be a Levite who takes it to the temple every 3 years. The Jews don't take it to the Temple themselves but take it to the collection points from where the Levites take the other procedures. Thoroughly brainwashed, can you go to the Bible and show where the command to pay money tithes was given to CHRISTIANS. Read your Bible yourself allowing, a man read it for you results in the ignorance you just displayed with your assumption that 10% money submitted weekly and monthly to your Gentile Papa Daddy is Tithe. 4 Likes |
| Religion / Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by Topgainer: 12:14pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
ComingThrough: You have never Paid tithe in your life. 10% of your weekly or monthly earning submitted to a gentile Prophet, Bishop or Pastor is not tithe. The money 'tithe' you pay is according to who in the Bible? Abraham gave tithe not you have no point saying your weekly submission of your money to your Bishop Papa is according to Melchizedek or Jesus Christ. Assuming, your gentile Bishops have become Melchizedek ( which can't be) why are they now making tithe laws where Melchizedek made none? Why are they demanding it weekly and monthly when Melchizedek took his once in the lifetime of Abraham? Why are they asking for money when Melchizedek took spoils of war? Humble yourself and accept the truth, that all you ever gave were simply offerings. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
| Religion / Re: Ten Percent For Tithe: Is It The Bible's Doctrine Or The Church's Doctrine. by Topgainer: 1:58pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
preciousuweh:It seems from the onset you didn't seek to know but to impose your assumptions some of which are unbelievable for example stating that Jesus took tithe of money from a poor widow and that in Luke 6:38, He commanded people to pay tithe. You went further to propose that the Apostles took tithe payments from their members. All these things show you have suffered under Bible manipulators and I will advise you change your Papa Daddy because he has not only targeted your pockets but your reasoning and comprehension of clear Bible passages like Deuteronomy 14, which is poor. Read your books and pass your Waec, it is a better thing to do with your time. Later you will have much time and better comprehension to defend your 10% weekly money tithe-gospel. |
| Religion / Re: Man Gets Erection As Prophet Fufeyin "Performs Miracle" On Him by Topgainer: 7:31am On Oct 11, 2017 |
zionmade1: They are all in your Bible. The Good, the not so Good and the Bad. Do you know that in matters like this people walk in the assembly of the ungodly claiming it was a revelation in the dream? He saw a man of god in the dream, therefore, he must be genuine. I have been in that situation until I weighed the actions of the Snr Pastor who nonetheless preaches well. Many years ago, after seeing the man in a vision, I started going to the cesspit masquerading as a Church. That cesspit is still there with reports of enticing Not all revelations especially the ones that cannot be resolved with the New testament is from God. Not all supposed miracles have origin from God, many 2 mins miracle for the Camera are out there. Drawing comparisons of words partially and actions mainly of a man, with the Christian acts of the Apostle is the safest. Actions, because many speak well but act anti-parallel to the Bible. Even if an 'Angel' descends from Heaven with a different teachings and demonstration different from the sound Apostolic doctrine, do not heed them. I am cautious and select my words, so I don't outrightly insult people. But an Impostor is an Impostor, there are no nicer English words for that. I use euphemism where I can but any imposter who thinks he can build a wall of protection from preying eyes using ' touch not my anointed, story of Jesus and Beelzebub, allow God to judge while adulterating the Apostolic doctrine' will soon realize that God is instrumental to the expostion of dark works. And He uses men to do that, some of the men were former members and insiders, privileged to walk into the dark Secrets of Papas I think our discussion should end here. I can't change your bias and you can't change mine. |
| Religion / Re: Ten Percent For Tithe: Is It The Bible's Doctrine Or The Church's Doctrine. by Topgainer: 2:00am On Oct 11, 2017 |
talk2ekpa:Have you finished reading Deuteronomy 14 and 26:12? Are you afraid to read there? The Truth you can get there is that in your whole life you have never given Tithe. Parading 10 percent of you wages weekly, before a gentile Papa is not Tithe, not according to Jewish Laws, not according to Abraham, not according to Jesus and not according to Peter and Paul. The same with 100% of your January Salary which you assumed to be first fruit. You have never given Tithe correctly, so what you do is not and can never be Tithing. |
| Religion / Re: Ten Percent For Tithe: Is It The Bible's Doctrine Or The Church's Doctrine. by Topgainer: 1:44am On Oct 11, 2017 |
Ladies and Gentlemen, it appears pastorpreneurs have recruited some monikers or created some themselves to fight back. Since more people are beginning to realize the fraudulent nature of the pastorpreneur tithing system that required the thoroughly brainwashed to submit 10% of wages and salary to Papa, it became incumbent to recruit people like these two gentlemen up there, liking and sharing their posts. talk2ekpa on one hand thinks he is obeying one commandment to 'PAY' tithe because he submits 10% of his wages to a Gentile Papa and the other who is the Op said Jesus took tithe from a poor widow. Peter and Paul also took tithes from the disciples. 2 Likes |
| Religion / Re: Man Gets Erection As Prophet Fufeyin "Performs Miracle" On Him by Topgainer: 11:53pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
zionmade1:Do you really understand the context of that Scripture? The Bible definition of judgement does not say Christians should see a Prophet or Sorcerer involved in fetish and keep quite. If you used a harmful product and know it is harmful would not talk about it to others so they avoid going for that product. You don't even have the power to judge another man's servant. You are not by appointment a Justice of the Supreme Court and the Prison Service will not honour your sentence like they did in the with Senior Prophet Rev. King. Don't ever feel you are in the position but just refused it. You were not in the position in the first place. On a serious note, Testing every spirit Exposing the unfruitful works of darkness Warning people who are in the path of perdition and given to seditious lies is not judgement. I will continue to warn people to stay away from false Prophets all over the place. https://www.nairaland.com/1479564/avoid-these-nigerian-ghanian-pastors |
| Religion / Re: Ten Percent For Tithe: Is It The Bible's Doctrine Or The Church's Doctrine. by Topgainer: 11:21pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
talk2ekpa, you must be a pastorpreneur or his agent if Mt 23:23 is where you saw that people should submit 10% of their salary and wages weekly and monthly to one businessman, Gentile Capitalist and Bishop. Very clearly that passage is about the Jews and they gave tithes of crops ( example spices: mint, dill and Cummins), Deuteronomy 14 says it was given once in 3 years with other conditions. I am tempted to say that you are shallow in your understanding of clear language and context but then it is not your making. King James and NKJV are near unadulterated versions of the Bible. It made no mention of money tithes not even among the Jews to whom Tithe laws were given. I am expecting a new version where the pastorpreneur gangs will include such nice ideas that people should submit their wages and salary weekly or monthly to the Gentile Pastorpreneur. Welldone Sir. 1 Like |
| Religion / Re: Ten Percent For Tithe: Is It The Bible's Doctrine Or The Church's Doctrine. by Topgainer: 11:05pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
preciousuweh:Bye Bye. |
| Religion / Re: Ten Percent For Tithe: Is It The Bible's Doctrine Or The Church's Doctrine. by Topgainer: 10:47pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Pusyiter:This is what you replied with such an erroneous message as all portions of the Bible... It was about tithe. You complicated your stand by misquoting 2 Tim 3:16. Start applying all portions of the Scripture by making an offering of a Turtle dove tomorrow, push your wife to a hut the next time she is on her period and sacrifice a Lamb as Abraham was commanded to do. talk2ekpa:I didn't have the need to quote you, but interestingly you almost confused me with your lengthy reply. Abraham's blessings are mine and I don't have to do All that he did like trying to sacrifice Isaac in a test, going to war and sleeping with a maid. Those are stories that I must practice? And may I repeat that some portions of the Bible are stories on the customs of the Jews and I must not practice them to be at peace with my maker. I will not practice them, the ways of Christ is good enough, His yoke is easy and His burden light but it appears Pastorpreneurs and their agents want to yoke people (we the Gentiles) with Jewish customs. I think I have summarized all I'll ever tell you on the vague posts you made up there. Bye and God bless you! 1 Like |
| Religion / Re: Ten Percent For Tithe: Is It The Bible's Doctrine Or The Church's Doctrine. by Topgainer: 9:58pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
preciousuweh:There is nothing like paying tithe. it is 'giving' tithe. What people do today and call it Tithe has no links to Jesus, Peter and Paul. It's also not how the Jews or Abraham gave Tithe. I am not going to do your assignment for you. Find the proofs for yourself from your Bible. If you don't have a copy get one. There are resources here to help you in your study. e.g. https://www.nairaland.com/113108/truth-pastor-not-tell-tithes |
| Religion / Re: Man Gets Erection As Prophet Fufeyin "Performs Miracle" On Him by Topgainer: 9:29pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
zionmade1:Look again at the Gymnastics of the Snr Prophet. Get Strong Decoder, take out time to look at the stage performances of the impostor and others like him. People who make themselves available to be used for the shows are completely blind and will never see the wrong in the theatrics. 1 Like |
| Religion / Re: Ten Percent For Tithe: Is It The Bible's Doctrine Or The Church's Doctrine. by Topgainer: 9:00pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
talk2ekpa:So many doctrines thrown up and down by Pastorpreneurs. Your sentence about portions of the Bible and Christian conduct is erroneous. I can tell you categorically that many portions of the Bible do not define the conducts of Christians. Many of those portions are just stories on the customs, conducts and history of the Jewish people. A Christian is not expected to practice all of those. The next sentence about Abraham commandments being our commandments is meaningless except you come clear with the message you want to pass. Abraham was not commanded to bring a 10% of his wages or salary, weekly or monthly to any Gentile Bishop, Prophet or Apostle. There was no record that Abraham paid tithe from his weekly or monthly earnings which were enormous wealth of gold, silver, bronze, cattles, farmland, workers and industry. He never paid tithe on all these. The isolated incidence of giving tithe to a mysterious priest, Melchizedek was not from Commandments and it was spoils of war better still materials belonging to Lot and King of Sodom, which he promptly returned the remaining 90% to the owners. Pastorpreneurs and their agents will not cease to amaze with their twisted doctrines. It is no longer Mal 3:10 but Abraham's commandments. 2 Likes |
| Religion / Re: Man Gets Erection As Prophet Fufeyin "Performs Miracle" On Him by Topgainer: 2:45pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
zionmade1:The worship of demons has been with humans and adherents of such religions also believe that gods' call is upon the chief performers. They also make statements like yours. Ours is different, we let our Bible decide, that is why we have a copy against which we draw comparisons. Not forgetting that most old testament ways are no longer acceptable. And when we do, it's obvious we gat a lot of masqueraders. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
| Religion / Re: Photos: Nigerian Pastor Heals Man Whose joystick Refused To Come Down by Topgainer: 2:36pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Why on earth should people make themselves available to be used for demeaning stage shows like this. You can see the Camera crew making every effort to capture the moments. 4 3 2 1 Action! |
| Religion / Re: Big Pot Placed On A Pastor’s Head While Praying (Pictures) by Topgainer: 9:16pm On Oct 09, 2017 |
guccitype:So that Charlatan with clay pot on his head is doing the things of God? Nobody is doubting that the impostor and talknado gangster is a Prophet who is capable of many tricks. The things of God being |
| Religion / Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by Topgainer: 7:09am On Oct 09, 2017 |
PianoWizard:Tithe was for the sons of Levi and the Temple, the widows, the strangers, the poor and the whole people of Isreal. It was not money in the first place. Deut 14 says the law made the giving of tithe ( farm produce) once every 3 years. If you ever took 10% of your money weekly or monthly to any Gentile Papa and call that tithe, you are 100% wrong. In fact, what you gave is offerings. MikeJosy:No Jewish man to whom the Tithe was given took his tithes directly to any Church assuming there was Church then. Levites are the only people who took tithes to Temple besides, the Jewish Temple and the Church are completely different. Go and read your Bible, because it is clear you don't know or you know but are deliberately twisting Bible to suit your preset mind. VagileVictor:He robbed nobody. 10% of income submitted to a Gentile Papa is not tithe and 100% of January Salary submitted to Daddy Papa is not first fruit. Richiejaystar:He is not owing God any money. Jesus paid all our debts to the Law and gave us a new Commandment to love one another. He doesn't need to pray for signs when the guidelines, the purpose and to whom tithes are meant for is clearly written in the Torah. All he needed to do was to study. |
| Religion / Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by Topgainer: 11:23pm On Oct 08, 2017 |
It is obvious the manipulators of Malachi 3 on this thread dodge to comment on Deuteronomy 14. They threaten and rain empty curses on Christians who asked them to prove this 'all' important God's ten percent share of people's wages and salary which must be brought to the Gentile Papa Daddy. Tithe is a command and a law, but only within the Hebrew Jurisdiction. The guidelines for it can be seen in the Torah and it ends there with other Jewish customs like it. The modifications by Gentile Bishops and man of gods to mean 10% of people's wages or salaries to be submitted weekly to a man who is not a Levite does not have origin in the Bible let alone among the founding Fathers of Christianity. Somebody jokingly said that the men of gods are behind close doors working hard to expunge Deut 14 from the Bible for the declining revenue the truth of that passage will cause them. But for now, it is safe to avoid that passage till a robust countering statements could be manufactured. 1 Like |
| Religion / Re: Is Refusing To Pay Tithe A Sin. by Topgainer: 11:00pm On Oct 08, 2017 |
planetzoom:Can you bring a scripture backing to prove this your statement because the Malachi tone was clear that robbing God is a transgression and should attract a curse for the erring Levites. Payment of tithe is a law. Transgression of the Law is Sin, therefore, non payment of tithe is Sin. The book of Leviticus and Deuteronomy mentions tithe law and exodus spells out penalty in the form of curses for Sin (transgression of the Law). The book of Malachi 3:8-10 which unfortunately has become a useful extortion tool at the hands of Fake Levites and Gentile Bishops describes it as a serious crime only equal to a servant robbing his master. dlawsamesq:A Christian is not bound by such Jewish Laws, the Laws brought transgressions and had to give way for righteousness by faith in Christ. In fact, no Christian has ever paid tithe from the perspective of the Law. Simply because there is no such Laws for Christians. All that Christians give are offerings regardless of the percentage and I am yet to see a passage that says a person sinned because of he didn't give offering at Church but we are commended to give to the needs of the brethren. The word 'need' here is so broad. 1 Like |
| Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 10:42pm On Oct 07, 2017 |
bjcuntis:Because akeensbussy has refused to be swayed to your side of beliefs which you have failed to find a scriptural backing for ( e.g. a scripture where Jesus ordered for tithes from Christians and where Peter or Paul took tithes from Christians) he is a fool who knows nothing A carnal man A dog The natural mind Not a Christian A Church goer. Do you know what, I think you should start pointing gun at the people to collect this your Precious tithe money because these threats aren't working not when more people now know there was no tithe law for Christians. |
| Religion / Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by Topgainer: 10:17pm On Oct 07, 2017 |
mdokaba1:The wrong part of your narrative is to call 10% of your wages, your tithe. The worst part would have been to submit it before one gentile Bishop or his representative, and call that tithe. 10% of your monthly salary is not tithe and 100% of your first or January salary is not First Fruit. When you study your Bible you can't find this corrupted methods there. bedspread:Manipulator Bedspread. Malachi 3:10 did not talk about money but foodcrops and food store. It was addressed to Levite Priests and its references as it were, came from the Mosaic procedures for tithing which were violated by the Levite Priests. Your covetous eye sees money in every verse of the Bible. The Op is not under any obligations or law to take a percentage of his money to anywhere much less to a gentile Papa. Christianity simply says give cheerfully, there are more emphasis on giving to the poor and sharing with the brethren. bedspread:What conscience are you aiming at? The one molded by extortions and lies like pushing Malachi 3:10 to mean money and a weekly ritual for Christians who were not in the picture. The Op is not under any of your laws, so stop threatening Christians with your ideas (of course, it is not your ideas but that of smarter gods of men) 120 Likes 19 Shares |
| Religion / Re: Where Are The Haters Of Apostle Suleman As He Preaches In RCCG Youth Convention by Topgainer: 2:44pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
ngozianu:Trying to figure out the sense in your assumptions. Is Daddy G.O. of RCCG all knowing, at least he has not proved that these past years. The empirical evidence in public domain that Apostle Suleman knew Otobo and Miss Okeke has more weight on the side that these were not mere allegations but have veracity in them. If you think as follower of Apostle Suleman that his charismatic preachings at the RCCG will erase the memories of those scandals from Adult minds then you are a child and should pay more attention to your studies. I mean no offence but cut down on gutter languages like the bolded. 2 Likes |
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