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Religion / Re: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by Topgainer: 2:01pm On Oct 06, 2017
Goshen360:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWPjBzau_W8
This deserves a thread of its own.
First time I hear the OAP Freeze speak. Can you imagine someone seemingly worldly and a celeb class having such wisdom to search the Bible for truth therein. Whereas most of the 'Church goers and members' especially the Pentecoastal gangsters find it hard to speak sense. Papa Daddy said this and that which most times are at variance with sound Christian doctrine is all they wail like robots. The church industries of Papa Daddies are there for serious business of selling hope and enslaving as many as they get to brainwash. I think God is in the business of exposing Robbers with Bible and wolves in sheep yards. Many people are beginning to see the CEOs of Church Ltd for who they are because there has been reports of decline in the tithe revenues of most of the Prosperity Companies Ltd not because of recession but because people are beginning to see the façade.

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Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 7:18am On Oct 06, 2017
adegeye38:

Guy for d umpteenth time, i am not a pastor, but a Christian First, let's look at the defintion and purpose of the tithe. The main principle behind tithing and giving is the fact that what we do with our money shows where our heart is. Matthew 6:21 says "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." When we are able to give 10% or more of our income instead of keeping that money for ourselves, it shows that our heart isn't tied to our money and that welove God more than our money.
The Bible mentions money over 800 times and of all of Jesus' parables, more than half of them talked about money. Why? Because that is where so many people get tripped up! When we are able to release at least 10% of our income back to God, our money doesn't have as tight of a hold on us because we realize that God is in control of our finances. We remember that everything we have has been given to us by Him. Even though most of us probably work for the money we make each month, even God has his hand there - He has given us the ability to do our jobs. Many who grasp what God has truly given them seem to agree that 10% doesn't even feel like enough! Is Tithing Mandatory? some people find issue with idea of tithing being "mandatory" or "required" - as if it is something that keeps believers in bondage.
But do God's standards really keep us in bondage? Just like God tells us to keep sex within marriage, to love one another and to seek first His kingdom, tithing is a blessing to our lives and something that will help better our lives (as well as help the lives of others).
We are not saved by works, thus failing to tithe will not necessarily send you to hell, but doing so will help improve your life and strengthen your relationship with God. I personally don't believe that God will curse us if we don't tithe, but I do believe He will help us escape the curse that is already in the world if we do. Old Testament vs. New Testament Tithing Practices Whether the tithe is only for Old Testament or if it is also included in the New Testament is probably the most debated issue. The scripture most frequently referenced regarding the tithe is indeed in the Old Testament (Malachi 3:10-12), but the tithe is also referenced in the New Testament. In Matthew 23:23, Jesus talks to the Pharisees, condemning them for tithing to the penny but neglecting the moreimportant issues of justice, mercyand faith. He then goes on to tell them that they should in fact tithe, but that they shouldn't neglect the more important things. Jesus recognized the importance of keeping the tithe and we should, too. There are many practices in the Old Testament that don't make sense to us today, yet many of these ancients ways carry over to the New Testament law of grace as part of Christ's promise to not abolish the law, but to fulfill it (Matthew 5:17). For instance we no longer sacrifice animals but asbelievers we are called to offer ourselves up as a living sacrifice (Rom 12:1). Men no longer are required to be circumcised, but we all have a circumcision of the heart through the Holy Spirit (Rom 2:29). Most of us don't have grain and produce to bring to the storehouse, but we do have incomes that we can bring the first tenth of into the church. In other words, just because something is written in the Old Testament doesn't mean it lacks application to us today in some way or another. When I think of Christians asking themselves whether "tithing" is commanded in the Bible, is an OldTestament or New Testament teaching, I wonder how many of these Christians "send back" the many scriptural blessings God has given His people in the Old Testament. How many people when they are blessed and given hope through the mention of God's works, words etc. through the Old Testament Scriptures say ‘I don't receive this or that blessing or confirmation because it's in the Old Testament'?"
While it is true that we are no longer under the old law, that we are under grace, we must not forget the purpose of grace: to help us live for God and do the things He wants us to do. Romans 8:4 tells us that Jesus came that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, not so that we could altogether dismiss it.
And Romans 3:21-31 talks about how we have righteousness through faith and not through following the law, but verse 31 adds "Do we,then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law."
God's grace gives us the power and ability to tithe!
see am done with this topic, i believe, i have made my point, based on God's word The blessings of tithing is what you see and experience, so am not talking abstracly If you are truely born again and u continue to grow in Christ and YOU HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD, you will have absolutely no problem with tithing Christianity is not a religion but a way of life I, as a person, am ready to give as much as i can to the gospel, not only in tithe alone, cos without the gospel i am a Nobody, the gospel gave me all i have and It is the most valuable thing in the world!!.PS : am done typing and with this topic. this isnt about winning an argument for me, but about enlightening you as Christian to Christian, on an important Christian issue.
It is a good thing you are not a Pastor because you will definitely go about propagating your personal ideas without recourse to the sound Apostolic doctrines. The scripture I asked for, you have not provided but have gone on a long epistle of what you think.
The main principle behind tithing and giving is the fact that what we do with our money shows where our heart is.
Nice idea, write a new Bible and incorporate it there.

Matthew 6:21 says "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."
When we are able to give 10% or more of our income instead of keeping that money for ourselves, it shows that our heart isn't tied to our money and that welove God more than our money.
Matt 6:21 didn't say or imply that your treasure in Heaven is a 10% of your wages/salary submitted to a gentile Bishop, Pastor, Apostle or Prophet.
I personally don't believe that God will curse us if we don't tithe, but I do believe He will help us escape the curse that is already in the world if we do.
Old Testament vs. New Testament
You believed you get a blessing more than others because you 'tithe' and at the same time you don't believe that God will curse us if we don't do tithe. How confused can you be? The Malachi you misquote says both blessings and Curses in regards to tithe Laws. You should believe both, Please do because that's the way Laws operate.
My comparison is not just about new and old testament but about Laws. There are good stories in old testament, we can learn a thing or two from them but the 613 Laws itemized in Jewish customs, the curses as well as the blessings attached, do not define the practices of a Christian beginning from the Moment Jesus died, a new Law began. I will tell you categorically that the old Laws and the curses for nonconformity with them were abolished in Christianity (Study the Romans you quoted from, Galatians and Hebrews). Hebrews 7 tells you that the Levites were only permitted to take tithes according to the Law - Mosaic Law.
. In the first Century AD, most of the troubles Christians had with the Jews who schemed against them with the Romans emanated from Christian noncomformity with the Jewish Laws.
Tithe is a Law and an important Jewish Law. The correct principle or reason behind it was the care for the Levite Priests who had no inheritance. You may want to know that in some generations down the line some Levites who were not in the Aaronic order had inheritance and ran businesses. Example, Barnabas in Acts 4: 36.
You, Mr Ade have never kept that Jewish Law on tithing.
What you do in parading 10% of your salary or wages before your Gentile Pastor or 'Prophet' is not tithe.
Parading 100% of your January Salary before a Gentile Pastor is not First fruit. They are not in keeping with Jewish laws of tithing and first fruit. They are offerings as far as Christianity is concerned.
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 9:54pm On Oct 05, 2017
adegeye38:

No one is talking about justification by fauth with you, and am noy saying justification comes by tithing but ....
proverbs 3 vs 9 -10 says
"Honour the Lord with your wealth, and the first fruit of all your crops and your barn will be filled with over flowing, and your Vats will brim over with new wine"
If the world and everything in it truly belong to the Lord, why wouldn’t this principle be true?
This isn’t the only time that the Lord promises his people that he’ll reward generosity with plenty (Deut. 15:10; Prov. 11:25; Malachi 3:8–12).
The challenge is that one must have the faith to give sacrificially to see if the Lord keeps his word.
The robbing of God (Mal. 3:8–9)Will man rob God? Yet you are robbing me.
But you say, “How have we robbed you?” In your tithes and contributions.
You are cursed with a curse, for youare robbing me, the whole nation of you"
for further study....
-Testing God in the tithe (Mal.3:10–12)
-Giving in secret (Matt. 6:1–4)
-The faithful giver (Mark 12:41–44)
-.Tithing and justice (Luke 11:42)
- Tithing and pride (Luke 18:9–14)

In the end, tithing wasn’t something God's people did in the same way we mindlessly toss a gratuity down with our bill at a restaurant.
It was an intentional practice through which God intended to teach his people about his sovereign ownership of everything.
Instead of being consumers of their blessings, they had to stop and think through just how much blessing they had.
Through the tithe, God took care of his people—and through the act of generous giving, God continues to bless his people.
Thanks and God bless you.
Further study on out of context texts?


What sort of Pastor are you? The type that juggles Bible passages just because a word you liked appeared there. Luke 11:42 and Luke 18: 9-14 have tithe, any search engine can give you that but the search engines will not check the context for you. A simple study on those passages will tell you that it is even an indictment on Jewish customs.
Pastor Ade, in your bid to preach money gospel or make money you have assumed yourself to be a Pharisee sect member to whom those passages were addressed. Unfortunately, you can't be a Pharisee Jew and a Christian at the same time. Let's even assume you have become a Pharisee (although, it is not possible because first you must have descended from Israel) and you are obliged to keep all the laws including tithe, have you gone to check exactly how the Jews gave tithe?

For umpteenth time, Malachi was not addressed to Christians but to Levite Priests mainly and the Jews, the premise was Mosaic laws which they have transgressed.
Now Sir, provide where God said Christians by law should submit 10% of their money to a Gentile Bishop. And where Jesus, Peter and Paul ordered for that same percentage from Christians. Cite a place in the Bible where it was made a commandment for Christians and where the many Churches founded by the Apostles observed this Law.

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Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 6:03pm On Oct 05, 2017
adegeye38:



Am not speaking to you on d basis of being a pastor, but on d bases of being a Christian

am honouring God with what he has given by sowing to his church, simple!!, what his servants in charge of that church does with the money is between them and God!!!

God acknowledges my giving and blesses me for

itsimple!!!!!!!

is it that hard to understand ?

see am a very successful individual all thanks 100% to God, and i pay my tithe with joy and happiness without anybody asking me to

I can pay my tithe or sow to church or to institutions or organizations propagating the gospel of christ, or to NGOs and missions as am being led.

The laws of sowing and reaping is real my brother

The bible also encourages us to do so (cos financeis need for the advancement of the kingdom)

THE GOD THAT ADMONISHED US TO TITHE IS NOT STUPID

so am not tithing based on what a pastor said, but on what God says

and if you say am a fool (like millions of other people in the world who also tithe)

then you are calling God the most wisest, most glorious, most loving, most powerfull, most kind, most loving, most holy, foolish

but if you are a born again christian and you grow spiritually to some certain extents you will understand better

there are two things in life Man's freewill and God's sovereignty.

It is not about outbursts of emotions.
What I have asked you is not what you are answering. Provide where God said Christians should submit 10% of their money to a Gentile Bishop. And where Jesus, Peter and Paul ordered for that same % from Christians.

In any case, you have never paid tithe in your life.
Parading 10% of your wages before your Gentile Papa Daddy is not tithe. All you ever gave is offering and you can give any percent under no compulsion or command. Moreover, justification does not come from your offerings regardless of the percentage, but from your faith and unwavering belief in the completed works of Jesus. There is no tithe laws for Christians. Goodbye.

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Religion / Re: The Real Question To Ask About Tithing by Topgainer: 3:14pm On Oct 05, 2017
holybabayo:
Let me first state the fact. Some people say tithing is of the Law and as christian they are not under the Law and should not pay tithe. Others say that tithing preceded the Law; that it was practiced by Abraham who was born and lived before the Law. Some others teach that Jesus Jesus did not preach about it; He considered it a little matter and also condemned a man that was basing his righteousness on his paying his tithes of all.
My Position on this debate is ...(1)Tithing is beyond the Law; it is a practice that people do ever before God spoke about it. As such it can still be practice freely by christian. (2) Christians are not required to pay tithes. (3). There is still a blessing for paying tithe now as there has always been. (4) It is very wise and smart to pay tithe now. (5)People that are christian and refuse to pay tithe should learn to give gifts or make donations to be blessed. (4) It is not a curse to not pay tithe now, but it is a blessing to pay.
The choice is yours. If you refuse to pay your, don't let any pastor or devil intimated you for not paying. But also know that you are losing out on the blessings of tithing. I will advice you to pay your tithes and worry less about enriching your already rich pastors. Yes you can pay your tithes to the poor, fatherless, homeless, beggers. This is not the poor of your family and relations oooo.
Conclusion/recommendation. Make sure you become a committed giver of a good substance of your earnings regularly and periodically to be blessed. Be a blessing to someone; give sacrificially. God blesses a cheerful giver. There is no blessing for not giving at all. Be wise.
Not totally correct, 1. The blessing of God is accessed in no particular order. He shows mercy as it pleases Him. Some Nations with insignificant number of Christians are blessed beyond measure. They have not heard of tithe to begin with and most of our 'prosperity' gospel merchants will do Jail terms in places like Japan. It will be seen the same way they see Advanced Fee Fraud.
2. The sacrifice of Jesus at the cross is so complete that one does not need all manner of Legalism to please God and curry his blessings.
3. Cheerful Offerings and Charity works are summarily the financial involvements of Christianity. It is not Legal and not fixed to any %.
4. What gospel merchants ask people to do today in the name of tithe does not comform to any of the forms practiced by Abraham and his descendants.
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 2:28pm On Oct 05, 2017
dalass:
Jesus supervised such collection and declared a poor widow who gave her 100% all she had! I wonder why he didn't tell them to return her money or rebuke such extortion from an innocent poor little lady who had next to nothing and if it were you am sure what you would think of Jesus
Wrong quotation!
Jesus didn't supervise the weekly/monthly submission of 10% wages/salaries, which schemers dubbed tithe from his disciples/Christians. There was no fixed % collections, the widow did as her heart prosposed and that is an offering.
Moreover, that Widow maybe bringing her tithe of farm produce as prescribed in her Jewish laws since that was the era of the Synagogue and Sabbath. So it is not even a suitable reference for the subject matter.
Try again if you don't mind!

Modified:
If you want to practice Jewish tithe laws, read it up in the Torah and practice it correctly. Another gang says it is Abraham they follow, good but Abraham was not going to Melchizedek weekly and monthly to submit 10% of his enormous wealth.
I am done with you.
Unless you find the passage I asked for, gdbye.
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 2:20pm On Oct 05, 2017
dalass:
Pot calling kettle black.. Let's stop disgracing Christianity on the air.. Preach gospel of repentance.. All these naming and shaming as if you're better
Child, I want mature discussion. All I asked you for is the Bible passage to support your stand preferably where Jesus, Peter and Paul summoned for 10% of people's wages or salaries in the name of tithe laws. If you can't find the 'express' passage get us the implied passage.



I will not reply you again if you can't control your emotions and provide the passages. I know you love and adore your Papa Daddy hence the hue cry, but comport yourself and go into Bible search. Hopefully, you will find the necessary Bible passages.

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Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 2:06pm On Oct 05, 2017
dalass:

Do us all a fav, count all the laws of the Bible and also go ahead to find out how many you are keeping... At least am not blindly heeding an 'advice' of someone whose life doesn't deserve to be called a Christian.. Daddy freeze.. What a character in which you are decided to emulate.. Yes since you're on his side.
Because of money matter in Church, everybody has become experts on the subject.
And why should he be looking for Jewish laws to keep when he is not a Jew. Oh! You don't know there is a wide difference between Jewish customs and Christian doctrines.
It is not just money matter but disgraceful commercialization of the Church. Money doublers and schemers have take over the beautiful gospel of Jesus. It calls for sober reflections.
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 1:59pm On Oct 05, 2017
dalass:
So who is coercing you, if you didn't know, there are many things Jesus never expressly say including smoking... He even forgave an adultereress whom He was told to judge.. All a bunch of Doctors of Bible when it comes to money matters.. Delusional peeps! How many poor people have you used your money to cater for?
Where is the Bible passage I asked for? Detailing how Jesus took money tithes from his disciples and how the Apostles summoned for tithes in the early Churches.
Unfortunately, you can't produce any Bible passage to support what your Business Centers and the presiding CEOs do.
To make it easier for you since you can't find the 'express', get a passage that implied that Jesus went about demanding for tithes or a passage that implied that Peter and Paul went around Churches asking for 10% of people's wages.
Quote me when you find any. Thank you.

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Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 10:07am On Oct 05, 2017
bjcuntis:


Well since we are being sincere with each other. I must tell u, u are living dangerously. Do u really read ur bible Sir? I would still refer u to Malachi 3:10 read the whole of that chapter even. Cos a christian can't be saying whatchu saying sir. U are simply a religious person or better still a church goer. Just being honest. Btw I would recommend u attend winners chapel. I promise u will get more insight on the topic. Stay blessed
See threats! Looooo l
Akeenbussy you are living dangerously better follow bjcuntis to Winners and submit your 10%.


Malachi 3:10 was addressed to Levites (descendants of Levi, a son of Jacob) referencing their Jewish laws. It baffles me how some Christians threaten people up and down with passages that do not even concern Christians to say the least, all in the bid to extort money.

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Religion / Re: Tithing: Should I Disregard This? by Topgainer: 9:56am On Oct 05, 2017
An2elect2:
If you have the Holy Spirit like you think, you would have known that tithing isn't for Christians. Stop making yourself look like the wise one and God the fool.

Be humble O man full of pride and poor in Spirit and let God give you wisdom.
There monikers I don't quote and that incorrigible asuuchild is one. He is very slow in understanding and very quick to display his ignorance. For instance, it is very clear from Malachi chapter 1-3 that it is not addressed to Christians but Jews and the Levite Priests who were found wanting in that aspect of the Mosaic Laws.
I think you should do the same with that child
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 9:21am On Oct 05, 2017
dalass:


Leave them, how many people is daddy freeze blessing? Devourer will Come for his share.. God's army for disobedient greedy people..he's experiencing in sowing to others but when the consequences of denying God of what He commands comes, it will be attributed to village people.. Hmmm
Another thoroughly brainwashed gal on the loose.
Kindly show a passage where Jesus commanded Christians to bring tithe, where Jesus took tithe on God's behalf. Show us the Passage the tithe Commandments were written for Christians and where it was applied to mean that each Christian should submit 10% money to Apostle Peter, James, John and Paul.
There is no mandatory and legalized issues of money in Christianity. There is a place for rejection and non submission of offerings when one's conscience is not clear concerning quarrel with a brother and forgiveness has not been made. In otherwords, somebody can come to Church with an offering and God does not delight in it because of certain unsettled wickedness. Unlike Give and bring money, make it big offering -gang of Bishops.
It is not all about 'bring money anyhow and reap double' false gospel.
Giving should be as a man proposed in his heart under no coercion, obligations or compulsion. There are no fixed percentages, no registers and cards for giving. #Say No to Commerce in the Church.
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 9:07am On Oct 05, 2017
itsmeurLady:


Lol.... I laugh in Spanish, Cs Dats the devil's trick and u are falling for it already. Just like MMM, when we were tellin them, they insulted us, called us all kind of names when we told them to stop investing in it, now ask urself today? Where is MMM? Listen, there is a way that seemeth right unto a man but that road leads to destruction. Just so when u start observing funny changes, don't say u were not told. Shalom!
So many people have pointed you to your fallacies on tithe especially this your statement
"Don't pay ur tithe for 3 months and watch ur finances crumble, foolish Man. For those that will want to support him, check ur life since u have not been paying tithe, has ur finances not been wavering"
Child take correction and stop bleating off points.
You are a victim of high level manipulations and your Bishop Papa who did this to you is a very mean and wicked gospel merchant.

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Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 8:56am On Oct 05, 2017
adegeye38:

All your points does not relate wit tithing at all, The advancement of God's kingdom is related to tithe in terms of finance, for the church
Pastor Ade, I cited examples in my points. Can you bring Bible passage to support this your advancement of Kingdom based on Tithe in the lives of early Christian Missionaries like Paul?
If you can't support your tithe postulations and Kingdom advancements with an example in the early Church recorded in the Bible. Take a bow! Assemble your gang and start writing a new Bible where your nice postulations can be incorporated.

The fact that in the Jewish laws of tithing, all aspects of tithe were materials, farm produce and crops, and not money means that it couldn't have been discussed as source of funding for their work.
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 7:54am On Oct 05, 2017
YelloweWest:

So if there is no tithe and offering how will the gospel of Christ be preached?
Read your Bible, because if you have been doing that you won't be asking this question.
Peter took no tithe and yet he preached the gospel. Paul undertook numerous successful missionary expeditions in Europe and East Asia without taking tithe from any Christian. None of the Apostles of Christ demanded for tithe as the vehicle for preaching the Gospel.
And let me repeat again that 10% of people's salary or wages extracted by false gospel merchants is not Tithe.
100% of January salary submitted to Business Centers in the name of First Fruit is not Biblical.
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 7:33am On Oct 05, 2017
adegeye38:


No one is saying Blessings are not free, but you tithe to God to honour and acknowledge him and to advance the kingdom and not to a pastor anf God blessed you for it, the law of sowing and reaping is real and its in the bible, Daddy freeze just lack proper understanding of God's word, hence he is speaking in extreme ignorance.
All these jagajaga teachings from Businessmen and money gospel merchants. Manipulators and Robbers running bureau de change for gullible Christians. Pay tithe money, firstfruit money and seed money in exchange for God's 'currency'.
The honour and acknowledgement of God for Christians does not lie with tithe. The advancement of God's Kingdom is not related to what you called tithe.
Jesus didn't honor God with his tithe, Peter and Paul did not acknowledge God with tithe yet these were the most successful missionaries ever.
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 7:49pm On Oct 04, 2017
itsmeurLady:
Don't pay ur tithe for 3 months and watch ur finances crumble, foolish Man. For those that will want to support him, check ur life since u have not been paying tithe, has ur finances not been wavering U hav money one minute and then the next minute it's gone, u can't calculate wat u spent the money on.... spend it on family, trips and at the end u will end up not saving of investing anything... when men try to prove smartness, they become foolish in their own eyes.

I don't need broke asses quoting me, if u are not dangote with ur so called awkward mentality then don't quote me
I should be saying the same to you but I know your Papa Daddy Bishop himself does not have as much as Dangote despite all the obtaining by false pretence, obtaining by coercion and upturning the Bible passages to serve as extortion tools. I think your Daddy Papa deserves commendation for the thorough Brainwashing he did on you.
You don't even talk like someone who knows her left from her right. Your don't sound in any way like a regenerated soul. Simple advice, change your Daddy Papa.

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Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 7:36pm On Oct 04, 2017
YelloweWest:
What did long Solomon do before God asked him to ask for anything?

Hmmm daddy freeze don't mislead people.
Solomon sacrificed a thousand bullocks. The sacrifice of Jesus on the cross of Calvary superseded that actions of Solomon. Coercing People to sacrifice money or to repeat the actions of Solo, before God's Blessings can be pulled down is daylight Robbery. Robbers and merchants of fake money gospel have taken over the Church. It will not be for long because God's Truth can never be defeated.

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Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 7:22pm On Oct 04, 2017
itsmeurLady:
This man will put himself inside trouble one day ooo. I just dey look am, Mr know it all. As u know everything go and start ur church so that u will mentor ppl too.. ppl claiming to be wise while they display their foolishness... der are blessings and then there are instructions, mumu man. Don't pay ur tithe for 3 months and watch ur finances crumble, foolish Man. For those that will want to support him, check ur life since u have not been paying tithe, has ur finances not been wavering U hav money one minute and then the next minute it's gone, u can't calculate wat u spent the money on.... spend it on family, trips and at the end u will end up not saving of investing anything... when men try to prove smartness, they become foolish in their own eyes. He thinks he has made sense na, I pity the people that still follow you, I'm sick and tired of this man shovin his ideas into ppl's head, keep it to yourself, Nobody asked you for mentoring. Fake deep Oshi!!!!!
OMG! What bundle of lies you have been fed with.
Your Pastor or Bishop Daddy Papa told you all these things?
Congratulations on the thorough (successful) brainwashing course you scaled through. Reading through your post I already knew you were the Best Graduating Student of your Daddy Papa.
Once again Congratulations.

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Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 7:12pm On Oct 04, 2017
Iseoluwani:



Bro, whether your pastor buys the latest car Z not your biz

ABRAHAM IS GOD'S PORTRAIT OF WHAT BLESSING MEANS NOT BILL GATE OR THIS PEOPLE OF THE WORLD

Isaiah 51:2
look to Abraham, your father, and to Sarah, who gave you birth. When I called him he was only one man, and I blessed him and made him many.

Abraham gave tithe
GEN 14:20
And blessed be God Most High, who has defeated your enemies for you." Then Abram gave Melchizedek a tenth of all the goods he had recovered.
So I advise that you keep paying your tithe

If you pay your tithe the following blessings follows you

Malachi 3:10-12

Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this," says the LORD Almighty, "and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it.
11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts.
12 And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the LORD of hosts.



Alot of people will go to hell due to the havoc social media will cause On their Spiritual life

Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
Hebrews12:1
Save us your long epistle bring up
a Bible passage where Jesus paid tithe
a Bible passage where Jesus took tithe from his followers
a Bible passage where Pastor Peter or Paul took tithes from Christians
Bring a Passage where it is stated that your Pastor Bishop and Papa Apostle decended from Levi the son of Jacob.
I know it is hard for you to accept the truth that you have never paid tithe in your life. 10% of your money submitted before/to a Gentile leader of a Church is not tithe but offering. And 100% of your January pay or first salary is not Bible First Fruit which as a matter of fact is a Jewish law.

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Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 6:58pm On Oct 04, 2017
Iseoluwani:


Who is a levite?
A Levite is a descendant of Levi who is one of the sons of Israel. There are no extentions.
Any other person claiming and arrogating that name to himself is an impostor.
Politics / Re: Biafra Is A Spirit That Can’t Be Killed With Guns, Other Weapons – Chris Okafor by Topgainer: 5:09pm On Oct 04, 2017
Hofbrauhaus:
Oga, talk small small o.

Before they come for you...there is nothing they cannot do. They can arrange for one demon possessed female nairalander to say you raped her and cummed on her brain. These people can do anything.
Demon possessed country. Dark world. Cursed zoo!
Your sentiments on Biafra issues aside. The talknado occult gang to which that Senior Prophet is affliated to are known for
raped her and cummed on her brain
They pay the prostitutes and consenting Church workers well for their silence.
It is a ritual they must observe to keep the Entertainment Centers booming. The same way some Politicians and Alhajis are condemned to eating human meat, gayism and sodomy.
Religion / Re: Pastor Uebert Angel Flaunts His Lamborghini (Pictured) by Topgainer: 11:00pm On Oct 03, 2017
DonCandido:
The hitherto highly revered term "Pastor" has taken the toga of a mere honorific which any slowpoke can affect these days to repress his followers. Imagine this man after taking his congregation's money as tithe and bought himself an idiotic toy turns around to mock them by calling them fools?
He called them what they are. He is their Levite Priest and deserves not only their tithes and seed money but makes a fortune from selling a bottled liquid and 'anointed' solutions. On one occasion he lambasted those sheeples complaining of the high cost of the miracle Liquids to desist from doing so afterall the Bibles in their hands were not acquired free of charge.
Religion / Re: Pastor Uebert Angel Flaunts His Lamborghini (Pictured) by Topgainer: 10:28pm On Oct 03, 2017
He is very correct but gangsters talk exactly as he had spoken. There are more of such wise gangsters heading a legion of morons down South. Example, those made to eat grass, those made to eat live snakes, those coerced to empty their pockets of cash weekly in the name of seed money and those that gather to be entertained by Angels captured on Camera at the shrines of Shepherd Bushiri.

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Religion / Re: Benue Woman Marries 18 Husbands In 6 Years Over Stolen Red Powder by Topgainer: 8:58pm On Oct 01, 2017
Stories fabricated in the name of testimonies and deliverance by Nigerian Prophets.
She has cohabited with 18 men not husbands.
She is a very loose type but must have been a pretty lady.
She has other bad traits.
She may also be under some form disorders of the mind probably formed from her upbringing, the fact she stole from the Aunt who drived her away.
Put one or two Prophet must take advantage of the predicament arranging and re-arranging stories to pull in more credulous chaps.

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Religion / Re: If You Have Any Question Concerning Tithing, Ask. by Topgainer: 7:33pm On Oct 01, 2017
ysyowel:
Types
1) Levitical or sacred tithe,
2) Feast tithe,
3) Poor tithe,
4) Tithe of tithe.
5. Christianity tithe. I wouldn't mind if you can trace the origin of this 5th type which has become a crusade. Bible Passages where Jesus, Peter and Paul took 10% of Christians' money as tithe will make your points more convincing.

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Religion / Re: Daddyfreeze And The Controversial Litv Interview On Titheing by Topgainer: 5:56pm On Oct 01, 2017
courseadivsor:


Lol,do you think I actually have time to do this back and forth with you? Find another sparing partner bro
I don't either. But I won't allow you and your gang to misinform the public with your nice ideas and distortion of facts. Prove that Jesus took tithes from his disciples, prove that Pastor Peter, Apostle Paul did the same or keep quiet.

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Religion / Re: Daddyfreeze And The Controversial Litv Interview On Titheing by Topgainer: 5:51pm On Oct 01, 2017
Richdotcom:
Well said.... thanks brother you are so on point.
He has raised no point of law. Abraham was recorded to have paid tithe once and it was not from his salary. The Jewish tithe law was paid with crops although there was money at the time. The grace period which he has just juggled the meaning didn't make any laws on tithing as matter of fact, no record of any early Church taking peoples' 10% of salary as tithe. No word on justifications by that.

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Religion / Re: Daddyfreeze And The Controversial Litv Interview On Titheing by Topgainer: 5:45pm On Oct 01, 2017
Under Grace ,which is the dispensation we currently are, we pay tithe directly to Jesus who is now our high priest, represented by the Pastor of your local church .
Primarily, we pay tithe to advance ourselves. We pay tithe to connect to in flow of wealth. Tithing is a channel of recieving financial provisions.
What the pastor decides to do with the tithe is another thing. But Christians do it in line with faith, which was the dispensation the first tithe was paid.
Write a new Bible and include all the things your Pastor told you about tithe there. But note that 10% of one's money is not tithe not according to Abraham not according to Moses and not according to Jesus.
You should have began your analysis by bringing up where Jesus, Pastor Peter or Apostle Paul took tithes from their Church members.
I advise you to educate your self with numerous resources disproving (begin by searching Tithe on nairaland) the modern tithe schemes which from all indications had no origin from the Bible standards, definition and purpose of tithing.

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Religion / Re: I'LL CONTINUE TO GIVE LOTTERY NUMBERS UNLESS JESUS ASKS ME TO STOP - BISHOP by Topgainer: 5:22pm On Oct 01, 2017
jmichlins:
Please pastor give me just six correct scores. I will play with 50k and pay my tithe completely
Obinim is a dirty, cunning false prophet and sorcerer. Once in a while he does one crowd pulling stunt but in majority of the time, he tricks fail to work. It will be funny when someone stakes his life earnings based on the words of angel Obinim and his impostor Jesus only to realize thereafter that some testimonies at that shrine were staged.
Religion / Re: It's 4:30 Yet No Darkness! Will Fr Mbaka Resign? As Prophet? Another Failed Pr.. by Topgainer: 5:13pm On Oct 01, 2017
Don't tell me you were waiting for that to come to pass. There are some prophecy you will hear you will just carry the thing and throw into the the nearest thrash bin. There is no mystic rain maker that can spread dark cloud and heavy rain all over Nigeria at the same time. It is beyond the ability of mystics.
As for resignation, Prophet Mbaka will not resign although, he may be threatened with sack by the catholic council. He prophesied death upon Chimaroke Nnamani and loss of election declaring he will cease to be a priest if the fellow failed to die. That was in 2002.

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Religion / Re: VIDEO: Watch How Pro Hezekiah Oladeji Was Flown In A Private Helicopter By FANO by Topgainer: 9:02am On Sep 28, 2017
False Prophet that experiments with women devoid of understanding. Is he not the sorcerer that made a woman to be delivered of a black slimy catfish in the name of a miracle? One day the Beast and his false Prophets will be cast away in the manner prophesied in the Book of Revelations.
Like his friend Prophet Joshua Iginla, who introduced him to the gang, Prophet Oladeji is a Sorcerer.

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