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Religion / Re: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by Topgainer: 2:01pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
Goshen360:This deserves a thread of its own. First time I hear the OAP Freeze speak. Can you imagine someone seemingly worldly and a celeb class having such wisdom to search the Bible for truth therein. Whereas most of the 'Church goers and members' especially the Pentecoastal gangsters find it hard to speak sense. Papa Daddy said this and that which most times are at variance with sound Christian doctrine is all they wail like robots. The church industries of Papa Daddies are there for serious business of selling hope and enslaving as many as they get to brainwash. I think God is in the business of exposing Robbers with Bible and wolves in sheep yards. Many people are beginning to see the CEOs of Church Ltd for who they are because there has been reports of decline in the tithe revenues of most of the Prosperity Companies Ltd not because of recession but because people are beginning to see the façade. 2 Likes |
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 7:18am On Oct 06, 2017 |
adegeye38:It is a good thing you are not a Pastor because you will definitely go about propagating your personal ideas without recourse to the sound Apostolic doctrines. The scripture I asked for, you have not provided but have gone on a long epistle of what you think. The main principle behind tithing and giving is the fact that what we do with our money shows where our heart is.Nice idea, write a new Bible and incorporate it there. Matthew 6:21 says "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."Matt 6:21 didn't say or imply that your treasure in Heaven is a 10% of your wages/salary submitted to a gentile Bishop, Pastor, Apostle or Prophet. I personally don't believe that God will curse us if we don't tithe, but I do believe He will help us escape the curse that is already in the world if we do.You believed you get a blessing more than others because you 'tithe' and at the same time you don't believe that God will curse us if we don't do tithe. How confused can you be? The Malachi you misquote says both blessings and Curses in regards to tithe Laws. You should believe both, Please do because that's the way Laws operate. My comparison is not just about new and old testament but about Laws. There are good stories in old testament, we can learn a thing or two from them but the 613 Laws itemized in Jewish customs, the curses as well as the blessings attached, do not define the practices of a Christian beginning from the Moment Jesus died, a new Law began. I will tell you categorically that the old Laws and the curses for nonconformity with them were abolished in Christianity (Study the Romans you quoted from, Galatians and Hebrews). Hebrews 7 tells you that the Levites were only permitted to take tithes according to the Law - Mosaic Law. . In the first Century AD, most of the troubles Christians had with the Jews who schemed against them with the Romans emanated from Christian noncomformity with the Jewish Laws. Tithe is a Law and an important Jewish Law. The correct principle or reason behind it was the care for the Levite Priests who had no inheritance. You may want to know that in some generations down the line some Levites who were not in the Aaronic order had inheritance and ran businesses. Example, Barnabas in Acts 4: 36. You, Mr Ade have never kept that Jewish Law on tithing. What you do in parading 10% of your salary or wages before your Gentile Pastor or 'Prophet' is not tithe. Parading 100% of your January Salary before a Gentile Pastor is not First fruit. They are not in keeping with Jewish laws of tithing and first fruit. They are offerings as far as Christianity is concerned. |
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 9:54pm On Oct 05, 2017 |
adegeye38:Further study on out of context texts? What sort of Pastor are you? The type that juggles Bible passages just because a word you liked appeared there. Luke 11:42 and Luke 18: 9-14 have tithe, any search engine can give you that but the search engines will not check the context for you. A simple study on those passages will tell you that it is even an indictment on Jewish customs. Pastor Ade, in your bid to preach money gospel or make money you have assumed yourself to be a Pharisee sect member to whom those passages were addressed. Unfortunately, you can't be a Pharisee Jew and a Christian at the same time. Let's even assume you have become a Pharisee (although, it is not possible because first you must have descended from Israel) and you are obliged to keep all the laws including tithe, have you gone to check exactly how the Jews gave tithe? For umpteenth time, Malachi was not addressed to Christians but to Levite Priests mainly and the Jews, the premise was Mosaic laws which they have transgressed. Now Sir, provide where God said Christians by law should submit 10% of their money to a Gentile Bishop. And where Jesus, Peter and Paul ordered for that same percentage from Christians. Cite a place in the Bible where it was made a commandment for Christians and where the many Churches founded by the Apostles observed this Law. 2 Likes |
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 6:03pm On Oct 05, 2017 |
adegeye38: It is not about outbursts of emotions. What I have asked you is not what you are answering. Provide where God said Christians should submit 10% of their money to a Gentile Bishop. And where Jesus, Peter and Paul ordered for that same % from Christians. In any case, you have never paid tithe in your life. Parading 10% of your wages before your Gentile Papa Daddy is not tithe. All you ever gave is offering and you can give any percent under no compulsion or command. Moreover, justification does not come from your offerings regardless of the percentage, but from your faith and unwavering belief in the completed works of Jesus. There is no tithe laws for Christians. Goodbye. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Real Question To Ask About Tithing by Topgainer: 3:14pm On Oct 05, 2017 |
holybabayo:Not totally correct, 1. The blessing of God is accessed in no particular order. He shows mercy as it pleases Him. Some Nations with insignificant number of Christians are blessed beyond measure. They have not heard of tithe to begin with and most of our 'prosperity' gospel merchants will do Jail terms in places like Japan. It will be seen the same way they see Advanced Fee Fraud. 2. The sacrifice of Jesus at the cross is so complete that one does not need all manner of Legalism to please God and curry his blessings. 3. Cheerful Offerings and Charity works are summarily the financial involvements of Christianity. It is not Legal and not fixed to any %. 4. What gospel merchants ask people to do today in the name of tithe does not comform to any of the forms practiced by Abraham and his descendants. |
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 2:28pm On Oct 05, 2017 |
dalass:Wrong quotation! Jesus didn't supervise the weekly/monthly submission of 10% wages/salaries, which schemers dubbed tithe from his disciples/Christians. There was no fixed % collections, the widow did as her heart prosposed and that is an offering. Moreover, that Widow maybe bringing her tithe of farm produce as prescribed in her Jewish laws since that was the era of the Synagogue and Sabbath. So it is not even a suitable reference for the subject matter. Try again if you don't mind! Modified: If you want to practice Jewish tithe laws, read it up in the Torah and practice it correctly. Another gang says it is Abraham they follow, good but Abraham was not going to Melchizedek weekly and monthly to submit 10% of his enormous wealth. I am done with you. Unless you find the passage I asked for, gdbye. |
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 2:20pm On Oct 05, 2017 |
dalass:Child, I want mature discussion. All I asked you for is the Bible passage to support your stand preferably where Jesus, Peter and Paul summoned for 10% of people's wages or salaries in the name of tithe laws. If you can't find the 'express' passage get us the implied passage. I will not reply you again if you can't control your emotions and provide the passages. I know you love and adore your Papa Daddy hence the hue cry, but comport yourself and go into Bible search. Hopefully, you will find the necessary Bible passages. 1 Like |
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 2:06pm On Oct 05, 2017 |
dalass:And why should he be looking for Jewish laws to keep when he is not a Jew. Oh! You don't know there is a wide difference between Jewish customs and Christian doctrines. It is not just money matter but disgraceful commercialization of the Church. Money doublers and schemers have take over the beautiful gospel of Jesus. It calls for sober reflections. |
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 1:59pm On Oct 05, 2017 |
dalass:Where is the Bible passage I asked for? Detailing how Jesus took money tithes from his disciples and how the Apostles summoned for tithes in the early Churches. Unfortunately, you can't produce any Bible passage to support what your Business Centers and the presiding CEOs do. To make it easier for you since you can't find the 'express', get a passage that implied that Jesus went about demanding for tithes or a passage that implied that Peter and Paul went around Churches asking for 10% of people's wages. Quote me when you find any. Thank you. 2 Likes |
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 10:07am On Oct 05, 2017 |
bjcuntis:See threats! Looooo l Akeenbussy you are living dangerously better follow bjcuntis to Winners and submit your 10%. Malachi 3:10 was addressed to Levites (descendants of Levi, a son of Jacob) referencing their Jewish laws. It baffles me how some Christians threaten people up and down with passages that do not even concern Christians to say the least, all in the bid to extort money. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: Tithing: Should I Disregard This? by Topgainer: 9:56am On Oct 05, 2017 |
An2elect2:There monikers I don't quote and that incorrigible asuuchild is one. He is very slow in understanding and very quick to display his ignorance. For instance, it is very clear from Malachi chapter 1-3 that it is not addressed to Christians but Jews and the Levite Priests who were found wanting in that aspect of the Mosaic Laws. I think you should do the same with that child |
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 9:21am On Oct 05, 2017 |
dalass:Another thoroughly brainwashed gal on the loose. Kindly show a passage where Jesus commanded Christians to bring tithe, where Jesus took tithe on God's behalf. Show us the Passage the tithe Commandments were written for Christians and where it was applied to mean that each Christian should submit 10% money to Apostle Peter, James, John and Paul. There is no mandatory and legalized issues of money in Christianity. There is a place for rejection and non submission of offerings when one's conscience is not clear concerning quarrel with a brother and forgiveness has not been made. In otherwords, somebody can come to Church with an offering and God does not delight in it because of certain unsettled wickedness. Unlike Give and bring money, make it big offering -gang of Bishops. It is not all about 'bring money anyhow and reap double' false gospel. Giving should be as a man proposed in his heart under no coercion, obligations or compulsion. There are no fixed percentages, no registers and cards for giving. #Say No to Commerce in the Church. |
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 9:07am On Oct 05, 2017 |
itsmeurLady:So many people have pointed you to your fallacies on tithe especially this your statement "Don't pay ur tithe for 3 months and watch ur finances crumble, foolish Man. For those that will want to support him, check ur life since u have not been paying tithe, has ur finances not been wavering" Child take correction and stop bleating off points. You are a victim of high level manipulations and your Bishop Papa who did this to you is a very mean and wicked gospel merchant. 1 Like |
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 8:56am On Oct 05, 2017 |
adegeye38:Pastor Ade, I cited examples in my points. Can you bring Bible passage to support this your advancement of Kingdom based on Tithe in the lives of early Christian Missionaries like Paul? If you can't support your tithe postulations and Kingdom advancements with an example in the early Church recorded in the Bible. Take a bow! Assemble your gang and start writing a new Bible where your nice postulations can be incorporated. The fact that in the Jewish laws of tithing, all aspects of tithe were materials, farm produce and crops, and not money means that it couldn't have been discussed as source of funding for their work. |
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 7:54am On Oct 05, 2017 |
YelloweWest:Read your Bible, because if you have been doing that you won't be asking this question. Peter took no tithe and yet he preached the gospel. Paul undertook numerous successful missionary expeditions in Europe and East Asia without taking tithe from any Christian. None of the Apostles of Christ demanded for tithe as the vehicle for preaching the Gospel. And let me repeat again that 10% of people's salary or wages extracted by false gospel merchants is not Tithe. 100% of January salary submitted to Business Centers in the name of First Fruit is not Biblical. |
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 7:33am On Oct 05, 2017 |
adegeye38:All these jagajaga teachings from Businessmen and money gospel merchants. Manipulators and Robbers running bureau de change for gullible Christians. Pay tithe money, firstfruit money and seed money in exchange for God's 'currency'. The honour and acknowledgement of God for Christians does not lie with tithe. The advancement of God's Kingdom is not related to what you called tithe. Jesus didn't honor God with his tithe, Peter and Paul did not acknowledge God with tithe yet these were the most successful missionaries ever. |
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 7:49pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
itsmeurLady:I should be saying the same to you but I know your Papa Daddy Bishop himself does not have as much as Dangote despite all the obtaining by false pretence, obtaining by coercion and upturning the Bible passages to serve as extortion tools. I think your Daddy Papa deserves commendation for the thorough Brainwashing he did on you. You don't even talk like someone who knows her left from her right. Your don't sound in any way like a regenerated soul. Simple advice, change your Daddy Papa. 5 Likes |
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 7:36pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
YelloweWest:Solomon sacrificed a thousand bullocks. The sacrifice of Jesus on the cross of Calvary superseded that actions of Solomon. Coercing People to sacrifice money or to repeat the actions of Solo, before God's Blessings can be pulled down is daylight Robbery. Robbers and merchants of fake money gospel have taken over the Church. It will not be for long because God's Truth can never be defeated. 1 Like |
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 7:22pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
itsmeurLady:OMG! What bundle of lies you have been fed with. Your Pastor or Bishop Daddy Papa told you all these things? Congratulations on the thorough (successful) brainwashing course you scaled through. Reading through your post I already knew you were the Best Graduating Student of your Daddy Papa. Once again Congratulations. 7 Likes |
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 7:12pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
Iseoluwani:Save us your long epistle bring up a Bible passage where Jesus paid tithe a Bible passage where Jesus took tithe from his followers a Bible passage where Pastor Peter or Paul took tithes from Christians Bring a Passage where it is stated that your Pastor Bishop and Papa Apostle decended from Levi the son of Jacob. I know it is hard for you to accept the truth that you have never paid tithe in your life. 10% of your money submitted before/to a Gentile leader of a Church is not tithe but offering. And 100% of your January pay or first salary is not Bible First Fruit which as a matter of fact is a Jewish law. 4 Likes |
Celebrities / Re: Daddy Freeze: Your Blessing Isn't Connected To Your Tithe Or Offering, It's FREE by Topgainer: 6:58pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
Iseoluwani:A Levite is a descendant of Levi who is one of the sons of Israel. There are no extentions. Any other person claiming and arrogating that name to himself is an impostor. |
Politics / Re: Biafra Is A Spirit That Can’t Be Killed With Guns, Other Weapons – Chris Okafor by Topgainer: 5:09pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
Hofbrauhaus:Your sentiments on Biafra issues aside. The talknado occult gang to which that Senior Prophet is affliated to are known for raped her and cummed on her brainThey pay the prostitutes and consenting Church workers well for their silence. It is a ritual they must observe to keep the Entertainment Centers booming. The same way some Politicians and Alhajis are condemned to eating human meat, gayism and sodomy. |
Religion / Re: Pastor Uebert Angel Flaunts His Lamborghini (Pictured) by Topgainer: 11:00pm On Oct 03, 2017 |
DonCandido:He called them what they are. He is their Levite Priest and deserves not only their tithes and seed money but makes a fortune from selling a bottled liquid and 'anointed' solutions. On one occasion he lambasted those sheeples complaining of the high cost of the miracle Liquids to desist from doing so afterall the Bibles in their hands were not acquired free of charge. |
Religion / Re: Pastor Uebert Angel Flaunts His Lamborghini (Pictured) by Topgainer: 10:28pm On Oct 03, 2017 |
He is very correct but gangsters talk exactly as he had spoken. There are more of such wise gangsters heading a legion of morons down South. Example, those made to eat grass, those made to eat live snakes, those coerced to empty their pockets of cash weekly in the name of seed money and those that gather to be entertained by Angels captured on Camera at the shrines of Shepherd Bushiri. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Benue Woman Marries 18 Husbands In 6 Years Over Stolen Red Powder by Topgainer: 8:58pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
Stories fabricated in the name of testimonies and deliverance by Nigerian Prophets. She has cohabited with 18 men not husbands. She is a very loose type but must have been a pretty lady. She has other bad traits. She may also be under some form disorders of the mind probably formed from her upbringing, the fact she stole from the Aunt who drived her away. Put one or two Prophet must take advantage of the predicament arranging and re-arranging stories to pull in more credulous chaps. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: If You Have Any Question Concerning Tithing, Ask. by Topgainer: 7:33pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
ysyowel:5. Christianity tithe. I wouldn't mind if you can trace the origin of this 5th type which has become a crusade. Bible Passages where Jesus, Peter and Paul took 10% of Christians' money as tithe will make your points more convincing. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: Daddyfreeze And The Controversial Litv Interview On Titheing by Topgainer: 5:56pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
courseadivsor:I don't either. But I won't allow you and your gang to misinform the public with your nice ideas and distortion of facts. Prove that Jesus took tithes from his disciples, prove that Pastor Peter, Apostle Paul did the same or keep quiet. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: Daddyfreeze And The Controversial Litv Interview On Titheing by Topgainer: 5:51pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
Richdotcom:He has raised no point of law. Abraham was recorded to have paid tithe once and it was not from his salary. The Jewish tithe law was paid with crops although there was money at the time. The grace period which he has just juggled the meaning didn't make any laws on tithing as matter of fact, no record of any early Church taking peoples' 10% of salary as tithe. No word on justifications by that. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: Daddyfreeze And The Controversial Litv Interview On Titheing by Topgainer: 5:45pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
Under Grace ,which is the dispensation we currently are, we pay tithe directly to Jesus who is now our high priest, represented by the Pastor of your local church .Write a new Bible and include all the things your Pastor told you about tithe there. But note that 10% of one's money is not tithe not according to Abraham not according to Moses and not according to Jesus. You should have began your analysis by bringing up where Jesus, Pastor Peter or Apostle Paul took tithes from their Church members. I advise you to educate your self with numerous resources disproving (begin by searching Tithe on nairaland) the modern tithe schemes which from all indications had no origin from the Bible standards, definition and purpose of tithing. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: I'LL CONTINUE TO GIVE LOTTERY NUMBERS UNLESS JESUS ASKS ME TO STOP - BISHOP by Topgainer: 5:22pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
jmichlins:Obinim is a dirty, cunning false prophet and sorcerer. Once in a while he does one crowd pulling stunt but in majority of the time, he tricks fail to work. It will be funny when someone stakes his life earnings based on the words of angel Obinim and his impostor Jesus only to realize thereafter that some testimonies at that shrine were staged. |
Religion / Re: It's 4:30 Yet No Darkness! Will Fr Mbaka Resign? As Prophet? Another Failed Pr.. by Topgainer: 5:13pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
Don't tell me you were waiting for that to come to pass. There are some prophecy you will hear you will just carry the thing and throw into the the nearest thrash bin. There is no mystic rain maker that can spread dark cloud and heavy rain all over Nigeria at the same time. It is beyond the ability of mystics. As for resignation, Prophet Mbaka will not resign although, he may be threatened with sack by the catholic council. He prophesied death upon Chimaroke Nnamani and loss of election declaring he will cease to be a priest if the fellow failed to die. That was in 2002. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: VIDEO: Watch How Pro Hezekiah Oladeji Was Flown In A Private Helicopter By FANO by Topgainer: 9:02am On Sep 28, 2017 |
False Prophet that experiments with women devoid of understanding. Is he not the sorcerer that made a woman to be delivered of a black slimy catfish in the name of a miracle? One day the Beast and his false Prophets will be cast away in the manner prophesied in the Book of Revelations. Like his friend Prophet Joshua Iginla, who introduced him to the gang, Prophet Oladeji is a Sorcerer. |
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