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alexialin:True that we have hounds who will sacrifice their finest just for more powers and more hypnotic abilities but the manner of death does not determine the final destination of a person. Christian history has a lot of Martyrs who were friends of God. I see something good in the lad, his manner of death notwithstanding. So, praise God all the same. 1 Like |
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RIP. I wish it was in less agonizing manner and I think it is hightime we outlawed completely the use of Commercial motorbikes on busy roads across the country while we hope that laws restricting heavy duty trucks to specific times of the clock is strictly enforced. |
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innosaint27: This is the third time I guess you are quoting the same thing I wrote about your thought process. That shows you are already thinking over your previous post on vomiting money because a photographer thinks his camera will change from being a Camera to a money machine. I will see things differently when they are different. I will never again see things from an illusive points which I think are the projections of your Bishop on most of you. Do you know that Satan has more influence on the body of pseudo Christians and the world? We have more Church centers where Mammon, Money and the World are being glorified than we have centers of genuine worship. No Christian is cursed and Christians talk love, act love and win people with love but I am not certain Bishop Oyedepo understands that because he has been caught issuing threats and curses. Jesus dislikes peddlers of alternative gospel and warned Christians about them. I just did that with a brief analysis of your post. I don't hate you and I am not bitter. In fact, I work with many of your kind without discriminations. I try the much I can to present to them the thorough brainwashing they have suffered under men like Oyedepo and thankfully some of them are seeing they have been used. I have not gotten to the point where I will refuse to employ somebody because I think he is wasting the money I pay him or her on peddlers of money seed gospel. I can only bring your attention to it when you initiate a discussion on it or you throw an invitation for one of your church business seminars. But then I warn against stickers on the office doors, limits productivity when a sheeple believes that a Shiloh sticker hypnotizes customers and curry favours. I think you may like to see things differently some day. You may see reasons why I think Oyedepo does not have any striking resemblance to Jesus Christ. I will henceforth bring to a close my opinions on the alternative gospel and money- salvation messages of your Bishop on this forum. I wouldn't want a brother to commit suicide because I said something about his/her gods of men. ![]() Have a good day and be diligent in your work place. 1 Like |
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blueseacats:I have a feeling she maybe one of my former neighbours who is a high class prostitute known to some of us. She speaks very much like the lady. Not surprised because that lady is a dedicated, tongue blasting, money seed sower and tithe paying follower of the Bishop. She has the stickers from the church on her car, her apartment doors. Yes, she is prosperous her heaven is on earth and all the smaller prostitutes are jealous of her ability to catch big shots who pay in "dollars". I see them married men who tell their wives they are going for a conference drive into the estate and drive out satisfied. So much for being focused on achieving heaven on earth, despite her Shiloh seeds all these years and all the impression of having bachelor business executives in the city branch of the Church, she is not still married. This particular Ernestyn talks exactly like her. Could she be the one or do they always talk like that? |
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Ernestyn:I don't believe that Bishop Oyedepo is a man of God, any crime in that? And you have not shown from the way you talked and behaved that you have learnt anything good from him. So I will advise you to look for another Daddy or Papa if you desire to make heaven or better still look for Jesus in all sincerity. And maybe you can learn in the new Church that the word fool/waka is proscribed. I am sure Bishop has not taught you that, how will he when he himself uses assault and intimidations. I can see that your are so furious about my observation on unmarried ladies who are messengers of Business seminars of such Assemblies. I will not honour you with further replies. |
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If seed sowing is not scriptural, then Jesus lied and Apostle Paul lied also for they all taught about seed sowing.----- @ken4Christ. Neither Jesus nor Paul lied about seed sowing but the seed sowing parables of Jesus or that of Paul is not talking about money seed but the labour of the gospel preachers and the Word they preach. Misinterpretations for personal enrichment by Merchants and Pastorpreneurs turned all the parables to mean planting money to reap money. You have not shown any passage that has instructions for Christians to sow money seed to reap double money or sow seed for every prayer that will pass to God through the Pastor, which is the bone of contention here. This is the aspect that I know the said Pastor declares to be false and it is the tool fraudulent pastors and Bishops use for personal enrichment. Let's briefly look at your quotations on seed to see if it is about money. Luke 6: 38. The Give there is all encompassing and to say it is relating to the subject of seed money is unfair. It didn't even restrict giving to a Church as most churches exclusively use it to rake in money. Mark 10:29-30 Is also not about seed money but dedication to duty and selflessness exemplified by the European missionaries for instance who left the comfort of homes and better life to the forests of Africa in the 18th, 19th and early 20th centuries to teach about Jesus. 2 Corinthians 9: 10 is not about money doubling but the word of God preached (seed) planted into lives which grows or multiplies into numerous fruits of righteousness ( disciples of righteousness) Gal 6: 7, in fact, from vs 1 through 10. Is not discussing seed money in anyway. It is talking about sowing seeds of good deeds among Christians. It is not saying sow seed money and you will reap double seed money. Character and its reward is the main point there. The old testament references do not either refer to the seed money, although, a Christian is not bound by them. Your analogy with Abraham giving Isaac to get a fruitful Israel as nice as it sounds does not apply to any Christian who believed that all the sacrifices are complete in Jesus. One does not need to sow his son by extension money through a Pastor, to God before one's prayers will pass. You rightly said through his death access was granted to many children why then do faithless generation enrich many deceivers who teach that Jesus is not sufficient an access to God. But a seed money will open the doors Jesus can't open. If you have other references of seed money and money doubling bring it on. There is no justification for that teaching except greed and for enrichment of certain characters. Christians when it concerns money, are instructed to give offerings and alms which in themselves do not relate to seed money for money doubling. Things about money as instructed by the founding fathers of Christianity, should be by personal convictions, no law, no coersion, no attachments, no money doubling intentions, no hidden charges and burden. 1 Like |
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innosaint27:Can you see through the thought process and the emphasis of this Papa Daddy Bishop follower. It is one of the reasons I contend with the teachings of gospel merchants. In Matthew chapter 4, the Satan planned to introduce that into the Ministry of Jesus. He said "bow down and worship me, all these Kingdoms and the glory will I give You." Satan failed, but it seems it's succeeded in bringing it back through its agents. Worship Papa and get prosperity, sow money seed to Papa and get double. Come close to Daddy and be vomiting money. Most of the people I see around who carry this bow to Papa and get money theory as a hubby don't pay attention to approved conducts of a Christian. The unmarried ladies among them easily open legs for tips which I am sure is part of the prosperity. No restraints, the married men in the offices are not exempted. Yet they want you to come to their programs, beg you to join in their 'power packed' services and business seminar with Prophet. I cautiously decline the invitations and sometimes, I ask them soul searching questions about their money gospels and the money centered teachings they get. 2 Likes |
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Penalty82:I engaged in some rhetorics there regarding Scriptural tags. While your references in Proverbs are general statement that the evil doer gets a recompense,my suggestion that Ps 35 :1 fitted better to that back to sender prayer because it is a direct request that your enemies should be fought. Both of us are not on the same page on those practices. It is not a Christian prayer. I know that occultists and inventors of pseudo Christianity are sad when some of us challenge their unchristian methods but the Truth must be said. |
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Bruno3000:I don't adopt whatever and anyhow approach to things. That the method used by a witch guarantees results doesn't make it right. Taking up incantations or the burning of animal in back to sender rituals for solutions is a dangerous precedent being set by Occultic infiltrators. My response is guided or should be guided by 1. What did Jesus teach on it ? 2. What did his Apostles and disciples do ? 3. How will Jesus react to that Situation if he were here? |
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Penalty82:Animal sacrifice (even human, a King did that with his son) is also Scriptural? How many scriptural animal sacrifices have you made today? It should also be a good prayer, more effective than back to sender. Find out more from the occult Bishops of PFN/CAN. My point is clear enough about practices that are alternative Christianity. Choose for yourself who you want to follow, Jesus or talknado sorcerers and the occults. Besides, those your references are not on back to sender. A better reference is in Psalms 35:1 Plead my cause, O LORD, with them that strive with me: fight against them that fight against me. . I make bold to say it is not a Christian prayer because Jesus didn't teach that. It is occults that use those incantations today. |
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Ranchhoddas:The full and complete description of the false prophets are in the Bible. In this thread, I have short stories of things to watch out for https://www.nairaland.com/1479564/avoid-these-nigerian-ghanian-pastors |
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The man kept mentioning God in the narratives. Which gods ordered that to return to sender is through burning of the meat? The land is so polluted with Idolatry, rituals and counter rituals when occultists are leaders of PFN and CAN. All those return to sender mantles. All the give me seed money to pass your prayers to God All those bottled anointing and blood of Jesus Merchants All those 'pouring sugar, salt and honey' for house dedication. All those deliverance purveyors, fire on the legs, hands and fire all over your body. All those temples that focus on selling hopes of riches with statements like I declare money will touch your hands when you sow seeds to this altar. All the listed practice alternative Christian doctrine and Jesus is very far from such places. Jesus never used the word back to sender or performed any prayer rituals to that effect. So where did we pick such doctrines from? 3 Likes 1 Share |
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Pastor Adeboye should watch his association with Pastors, Prophets, Apostles and Bishops whose mode of operation has remained questionable. Those Characters that he brings to preach at the camp meetings will influence him very negatively if he doesn't take precautions. Pastor Enoch Adeboye belongs to God and the mercy of God is strong upon his life, soon he will begin to cutoff some of those infiltrators. The surprise I had few years ago when I saw on tele, Archbishop Ayo Oritsejafor on the stage at the Redemption Camp. Later, I heard 3 other talknado sorcerers in separate interviews saying Pastor Adeboye is their mentor. I began to ask myself mentor in what sense, is it in practicing dark arts, rituals and keeping sex harems? For the Aso ebi, maybe he should have outlawed it without necessarily tagging it ungodly, which I think created the misgivings people have about the statements. The ungodly part of it is the segregations associated with it, if it is possible to have the Aso ebi without discriminations on other things, then there is no need of a general statement making it ungodly. The general statement will invariably mean that the members of his Church who also deal on and supply the materials are also engaging in ungodly trade. We should understand it this way: Aso ebi is outlawed by the RCCG sect and the reasons for that is clearly spelt out. |
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bezimo:I totally agree that givings should be done willingly but among those categories you listed are some which Christians are not instructed upon as prerequisites for making demands from God. They are money tithes, first fruits and money seeds. Men spurred by greed have made subtle laws out of them. I am unscathed by your bilious vituperations. It depends on what you mean by seeing the Bishop use force to extract money from his followers. Let me remind you that coercion and intimidation is also forceful in its own merit. Hitler's tool worked as effectively as bending the will of people with guns pointed to their skulls. Like I said, I don't believe Oyedepo and his style of Christianity has any striking resemblance to the one brought by Jesus and practiced by his Apostles. That's my belief and it is firm. But as a serial investor and businessman he has my respect the same respect I will accord Dangote without looking at his religion. You are free to believe your own theories and persuasions, no need of flaring up and empty curses. 1 Like |
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bezimo:It is a difficult thing to defend Oyedepo who is the main Apostle of money doubling Christianity. I understand your anger and the insults you are hauling on that guy for mentioning lord Oyedepo. He has enriched himself wholly from demanding seeds in a manner that is very fraudulent from his followers. 6 years ago, I stopped watching or following his Canaanland Shiloh after an episode that was clearly not the teachings of Jesus. He placed many heavy containers around the stage, selected some persons to testify of sowing seeds of all the money they had and receiving in return hundreds in contract as result of sowing seed to Oyedepo. He then gradually worked up his sermon to seed sowing and finally requesting that people should throw in the kind of seeds as they have not done before to experience "money doubling". People were stripped of their possessions, the containers were filled with money, property titles, cheque leaflets, car keys, and so on. Every other thing he said in his motivational talks were not as moving as marrying the testimonies of the selected men and the need to sow seed to experience financial doubling. In my recent posts on this forum I challenged the fraudulent seed sowing concepts for virtually everything in today's Christianity. Jesus didn't teach that people must sow money seeds as part of prayer rituals. The Apostles didn't teach that either. And I asked which Father will demand that his children should sow seeds before he can grant their request for school fees, feeding needs, clothing needs and any other needs for that matter. How much more God Almighty. I don't believe Oyedepo is a man of God. A shrewd Businessman is the best description of him and all who talk like him. They hardly use Jesus as the standard but are quick to lift passages in the old testaments that fit their purpose which is to extract money from people. 2 Likes |
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asuustrike2009:Good question. We don't share the same lords. While my Lord is against False Prophets and their lying wonders, yours says all is fair and good. The Bible judged and condemned them, not me. I observed you use holy ghost the same way False Prophets brandish it everywhere when in actual sense they are not for Him. These days a native doctor shouts holy ghost fire during incantations. False Prophets are clearly described in the Bible if you have one and read it at all, you will not need extra voices to know who a false prophet is. Moreover, the voices talking to you so far might be the specie of holy ghost His Holiness Rev King used during his ministry days. Repent and be set free from the thorough brainwashing you have suffered these past years in the hands of false Prophets and Bishops. Please, I will not reply you again on this subject because I have summarized my position on it. |
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There is no alleged in that, keeping a sex harem is part of the ritual rites of the talknado prophetic gangsters. Once in a while they are caught or accused, in fact, all of them will be rightly accused, it depends on how they damage-control it. Any lady used by them ceases to be the same again. Personal aides of these men know their atrocities but are bribed in form of welfare packages to keep mute. But the harems are threatened with touch not my anointed, who are you to judge, mind your business and shut up or I curse you. 1 Like |
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asuustrike2009:So False Prophets should go on with lies as glaring as a woman will be president of U.S.A. but suddenly the gods changed their minds as they are fond of doing. There is a cover although, taken out of context but it is a good one. Asuustrike, please repent and stop defending agents of Satan. Thus says the Lord and it does not come to pass and there is no announcement from Heaven that God has changed His mind before the expected date, is a simple test of a false prophet. |
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Don't forget that the false Prophet targets the pockets of his followers first. They demand for seed money for every prayer to pass through his altar to heaven. Tell me which Daddy will require a seed first before granting the request of his Children if not the Papas and Mamas of the newbreeds of gods. The False Prophet has reduced the Almighty God to one who can do all things except to rain money to his prophet. So the false Prophet tells you that by his decree all your needs will be met provided you sow money seed which apparently is not in the needs his decree can Carter for. The False Prophet wants everybody to see him as powerful and untouchable. Now, this is important because with this he can keep marketing his tricks like Elymas the sorcerer for fortunes. The False Prophet delights in spreading unverifiable stories of his power, stating why people should come to his own Church and not the Church of Pastor Y. He sends his foot soldiers to cities to compete with other Churches for members. 2 Likes |
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It depends on the kind of Pastor or Bishop you want to be. If you want to be among the Pentecostal fraudsters you will need to enter any of the Churches and serve the man of gods like a slave would serve his master. You dare not break out except the man of god allows you, otherwise he bring upon you all his intimidation arsenals like empty curses, he may accuse you of stealing his church offerings, he will warn and threaten his subjects not to associate with you. But then you will learn the arts of extortion and twisting the Bible to fund your lucre. The gods of men may be magnanimous enough to take you to the Coven where you will be initiated into the prophetic gang, provided you return tithe of what you make from your own church business. If you want to serve God selflessly, you don't have to be a Pastor working with any Church, with financial targets on your head. You can be a pastor in your family, in your school, in your office, in your neighborhood and anywhere you find yourself. The Character you exhibit preaches more and influences the people around you to believe in your God. You will also enjoy inner peace because your love of the things of the world and crave for material acquisitions through extortion of the gullibles will be minimal. 1 Like |
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khain:The Occultist, Shepherd Bushiri is not anything man of God. Every true Christian is a man of God and none who is taken in error is above reproof. The day he will be caught in many of his atrocities, I am sure you will be there to tell the security agents that they should beware of men of God and you shall tell the Court to let God be the judge. Those saying he has this and that business, you are right he invested the money he extracted from his ECG followers wisely, and continues to invest. Before his ECG business began he was broke and later became a servant of Archibishop Angel Uerbert where he learnt the arts. I have no issues with him enjoying his luxury and with all the black population of South Africa turning up at his Entertainment center every week. I do not have complaints about the charges/levies they pay him for the entertainment. I think it is very wrong for any thoroughly hypnotized follower to say the unrepentant Magician is a Christian or a man of God. I will challenge that with facts. |
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nora544:Nice story captures the true position of Christianity regarding tithe but I don't understand the Jones Adeboye. Another way of making money by Pastors that does not have its foundation in Christianity is the SEEDS. Which Father asks his children to pay seed ( euphemism: sow seed) before he could grant their request? So If they say to him Father we need money for a textbook, he will retort where is your textbook seed. For virtually everything the mouth pieces of the gods will demand a seed from the sheeples. The Seed extortion is the en vogue thing, worse than tithe because in the name of seed people are coerced into emptying bank accounts in the hope of reaping the whole world in profit. One day, I hope our Pastorpreneurs will heed the call and write a new Bible that will capture all their new revelations on how Christians should bring money to them. |
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1234IKECHhukwu:He should also include Universities among his many businesses. He is a Major False Prophet and practices dark arts. |
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Rapsino:Obligation just like seed money. I would like all the New Breeds Prophets and Bishops who are not Levites, with nice revelations on why the Christians should give tithes not of Agric produce like the Jews did but of money to write a new Bible where all these revelations can be relayed explicitly to their sheeples. I can give 10% of my money and much more to the Church to meet specific needs but I will not call it tithe because it can never be tithe. Correctly, It is an offering. More so, the other category called seed money is also a misnomer crafted by the overlords. I am searching to see seed money in any of the instructions of Jesus to Christians, I have not seen that, but crafty men have devised seed money for virtually everything a Christian asks his Father for. Seed for prosperity Seed for health Seed for war Seed money for husband Seed money for miracle Seed money for visa Seed money for faith Seed money for breakthrough Seed money for anointing Seed money for program Seed money for enemies. Robed Robbers have taken over Christianity. They have devised means of extorting men of little faith, who are made to understand they must pay cash to their Heavenly Father before they can force something out of Him or make Him grant their request. |
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Nice write up! Good revelations Prophet Oaroloye! Good revelations I would like all the New Breeds Prophets and Bishops who are not Levites, with nice revelations on why the Christians should give tithes not of Agric produce like the Jews did but of money to write a new Bible where all these revelations can be relayed explicitly to their sheeples. I can give 10% of my money and much more to the Church to meet specific needs but I will not call it tithe because it can never be tithe. Correctly, It is an offering. More so, the other category called seed money is also a misnomer crafted by the overlords. I am searching to see seed money in any of the instructions of Jesus to Christians, I have not seen that, but crafty men have devised seed money for virtually everything a Christian asks his Father for. Seed for prosperity Seed for health Seed for war Seed money for husband Seed money for miracle Seed money for visa Seed money for faith Seed money for breakthrough Seed money for anointing Seed money for program Seed money for enemies. Robed Robbers have taken over Christianity. They have devised means of extorting men of little faith, who are made to understand they must pay cash to their Heavenly Father before they can force something out of Him or make Him grant their request. |
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Number 10 should have been number 1 and build your other adverts from that. Then, will you get sincere opinions of Nigerians. Not many will agree with Numbers 6 and 9! However, Dr Enenche will not deliberately associate with occult men of gods who lead and rule PFN by extension CAN. It is difficult to decipher those occultists using their words but it is easy to catch them with their methods of operation and action. I have reasons not to believe Bishop Oyedepo and his modified religious methods, I wish he could resemble Jesus even if it is just in 30% of his ways and words. Do you know that T B Joshua, though a renowned sorcerer resembles Jesus more? I don't know how he took extra care to achieve that and pass unnoticed to many sheeples. |
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NairaEffect: ![]() ![]() Usher head that is jealous of the Papa because Papa dey chop alone and has threatened to kill any of the workers that tries to steal a torn note. ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
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omenka: Nobody contributed jack from his sheeples, his Church is not yet populated! It is either a contribution from members of his fraternity or he did the usual with the tithes&seeds. |
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Apostle Holiness Bishop Dr Prophet Miracle Williams. Only thoroughly brainwashed Sheeples sit under the 'anointing' of such gangsters. The mother hen hatching them is working round the clock because they are becoming too many. Has anybody seen Archbishop Dr Sign Fireman? 1 Like |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Satirically, When a false prophet level 444 is telling his sheeples to beware of false Prophets. He should tell his sheeples how he was initiated into the talknado sorcerer, fire on the leg, fire on the hands, who are you speak out ---exorcist gangs. He should tell them where he was before he made up his mind to join the group. He should tell them the things he drank and the hard decisions he made in the process. He should learn from false prophets that casting aspersions on other false prophets of a different gang or sect will not make the majority of the people to now consider one genuine. 1 Like |
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Thoroughly brainwashed people speak like this We don’t care about the price but the results, as we are speaking the Blood of Jesus has resurrected reported five people and healed hundreds since launch.This is the same Apostle that captured in motion pictures, Angels roaming in his South Africa Shrine. The same prophet that produced a video of his levitation. There is no better con artist than Mr Shepherd Bushiri, he is ahead of his Nigerian counterparts in the Church Industry. Today, he is worth over $1.5 Billion in property and investments in South Africa and the United States. Who will set his captives and sheeples free? 1 Like |
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