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BusinessRe: Onitsha, The Commercial Capital Of West Africa by Torch1(m): 5:30pm On Jul 27, 2012
@Op.... Why didn't u show only the bad side of Enugu on that ur thread abt Enugu being the pride ot the East?
Nairaland is Nigeria largest forum and so nwanne you cant just show the bad side of Onitsha.
Udo dili gi.
PoliticsRe: Ekiti Evacuates Beggars, Lunatics From Streets by Torch1(m): 6:05pm On Jul 20, 2012
jackbauersballs: Hope Ekt bear Ileke idi was not one of the beggars? grin
PoliticsRe: Anambra State Will Join D League Of Oil Producing In Two Weeks Time by Torch1(m): 9:09am On Jul 19, 2012
Hmmm! C.Rivers out, Anambra in..
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Wives Of Oyo Legislators Trip To London by Torch1(m): 12:39am On Jul 19, 2012
Musiwa2: they are getting visa for their family, so when civil war happen. they can run away.

ooni of ife have seen the satellite pictures.. tinubu was not responsible.. while the oba of benin knews who I am. they are trying to get you out of trouble. when fire burn you and someone else. you get rip of your own fire first.
hahahahaha hehehehe
Aare Musiwa! I dey hail oo! A beg show Oyo people that satellite picture.. Lol
PoliticsRe: There’s A Grand Christian Conspiracy Against Nigerian Muslims, JNI Claims by Torch1(m): 12:22am On Jul 19, 2012
They are all hypocrites!...
Hypocrisy in the highest order..
Nairaland GeneralRe: Hilarious-- Nigerian Guy Tries To Play Fast One! by Torch1(m): 7:51pm On Jul 18, 2012
antitpiah: I doubt a Yoruba man can be humiliated like that.

In Nigeria, every one beats Ibo people
Now, illiterate, uneducated Akatas are giving them the beating of their life . . . maybe it is time these cowards headed back to Isreal, their ancestral land.
Inferiority complex! Take it easy ok!
PoliticsRe: Tension In Plateau As STF Orders Fulani Out Of Ancestral Villages by Torch1(m): 8:35pm On Jul 14, 2012
Chase them away if they are behind all these killings in Plateau state..
An eye for an eye.
PoliticsYouths Protest Alleged Killing Of Member By JTF In Delta by Torch1(op): 12:52pm On Jul 09, 2012
By Godwin Oghre

Sapele—It was
pandemonium in Okirighwre
in Sapele Local Government
Area of Delta State, weekend,
as youths no fewer than 500,
protested what they
described as unwarranted
killing of one of their
members by the Joint Military
Task Force, with base in
Koko, Warri North Local
Government Area of the
state.

The youths under the aegis
of Okirighwre youths,
matched through major
roads, causing heavy traffic
jam on the Okirighwre/Warri
highway. The youths accused
JTF operatives of killing one
Mr. Ogbotor Usieme, a.k.a
Egede, whom they described
as a peaceful young man,
whose wife, Doris Usieme,
gave birth to a baby boy,
three months ago.

Spokesman of the youths, Mr
David Akponome told
Vanguard that the said
Ogbotor Usieme went out to
check on a friend about 8pm
on Thursday night, when he
was accosted by a team of
JTF men on Okeretagba Road
in Okirighwre, whom they
alleged, opened fire on him
and killed him on the spot.

Akponome also alleged that
after the JTF men had shot
and killed him, they took his
lifeless body to the Delta
State University Hospital, that
night, where doctors
confirmed him dead and his
body was later taken to JTF
base in Koko, while the
family members were yet to
recover it.

Another youth, who spoke
on condition of anonymity
and gave a difference
account, said, the victim was
the leader of one of the two
factions of youth groups,
which had taken up arms
against each other and from
whom the JTF men had
commenced disarming in
the last two weeks. He
alleged that during the last
disarmament session,
recently, many of the youths
surrounded their arms under
the watchful eyes of some
top officials of Delta State
Government headed by the
Secretary to the State
Government, Mr. Ovuzorie
Macaulay, adding that the JTF
men who shot and killed the
victim were on arm recovery
mission and shot the victim,
when he was about to
escape from check by JTF
men.

A senior Police officer in
Sapele, told Vanguard in
confidence, that the JTF men
were on a mission following
a tip off of a robbery attack
in the area, and that the JTF
men must have responded to
a distress call. He added that
the JTF men shot the suspect,
when he was trying to
escape from a robbery scene.
He said the suspect was shot
by soldiers and not police
men.

www.vanguardngr.com/2012/07/youths-protest-alleged-killing-of-member-by-jtf-in-delta/
PoliticsRe: Good Morning Nigerians, Time To Form Ally From SE,SS,SW And Middle Belt by Torch1(m): 7:29am On Jul 09, 2012
dayokanu: Why cant the easterners stand on their own?

Why must they be boy-boy to everyone. First they started as slaves to Hausas after getting rimmed and the Hausas threw them away, they went to be the Ijaws slaves,

Now you are courting camerounians again?

Una never tire to be slaves?
[quote author=Torch1]Easterners will rather form an alliance with Camerounians than with S.Westerners.
PoliticsRe: Good Morning Nigerians, Time To Form Ally From SE,SS,SW And Middle Belt by Torch1(m): 6:49am On Jul 09, 2012
Easterners will rather form an alliance with Camerounians than with S.Westerners.
PoliticsONDO 2012: 8 ACN Guber Aspirants In Defection Moves by Torch1(op): 7:37pm On Jul 08, 2012
AT least five aggrieved
governorship aspirants of
the Action Congress of
Nigeria (ACN) in Ondo State
are planning to defect to the
ruling Labour Party (LP) in
Ondo State
Three others aspirants of the
ACN are also talking with the
opposition Peoples
Democratic Party (PDP) with
the intention of defecting to
the party.
Two of the three planning to
move to the PDP are
negotiating the position of
the deputy governor and
Secretary to the State
Government.

The five aspirants heading to
the LP, including a serving
senator and a former
minister, are still talking with
a delegation from the ruling
party in the state.
They will accompany the LP
Governor Olusegun Mimiko
during a rally where the
governor will publicly make a
declaration of his second
term ambition slated for
Akure, the Ondo state capital.

Dependable sources said the
talks were almost sealed and
their defection will form part
of the governor’s declaration
rally coming up within the
next two weeks.
Findings revealed that the
former chairman of LP, Dr
Olaiya Oni, who defected to
the can, is leading the
aspirants to the PDP
following the alleged
injustice done to the
northern senatorial district
of the state by the leadership
of the ACN.
Oni was, last year, wooed to
the ACN by the leaders who
promised that the position
of governor would be
reserved for the Akokos in
the Northern area of Ondo.

But when the promised
collapsed, he was said to
have opened talks with
former Governor Olusegun
Agagu on the movement of
the aspirants to the PDP.

However, the aspirants are
finding it difficult to convince
their supporters on the need
to move to the PDP. Their
supporters, according to
findings, are in support of
their return to the LP instead
of the PDP where they would
have to queue.

However, 12 other ACN
gubernatorial aspirants, led
by Jaiyeola Ajatta, have
reportedly endorsed Mr.
Rotimi Akeredolu, a former
NBA president, as the choice
of the leaders of the party for
the October 20 election and
have asked their supporters
to back him.

At a meeting held in Osogbo
hosted by Osun state
governor Rauf Aregbesola,
one of the aspirants, Sola Iji,
said that all the aspirants had
agreed to support Akeredolu
because he is the choice of
the national leadership.

But two days after the
Osogbo declaration, two of
the aspirants disowned the
meeting.
Dr Olu Agunloye and Dr. Tunji
Abayomi dissociated
themselves from the
agreement to support
Akeredolu in the coming
election. Both of them said
they will not support the
injustice done by the leaders
who imposed Akeredolu on
them.
www.vanguardngr.com/2012/07/ondo-2012-8-acn-guber-aspirants-in-defection-moves/
Politics30 Killed In Fresh Attacks In Plateau by Torch1(op): 9:38pm On Jul 07, 2012
About 30 people were killed
yesterday when gunmen,
suspected to be Fulani
herdsmen, invaded some
villages in Barkin-Ladi and
Riyom Local Government
areas of Plateau State in
early morning attacks.

Those killed by the assailants,
said to have been well
armed and numbering about
100, included two security
men, women and children.
Many were left injured and
several houses torched in the
attack which occurred at
about 6.30 a.m.

The attack came days after
the new National Security
Adviser, Col. Sambo Dasuki
(rtd), visited the state during
which he initiated a dialogue
among various stakeholders
designed to forge peace and
reconciliation.

Vanguard learnt that the
assailants, dressed in black,
launched attacks on the
Berom villages of Kakuruk,
Kuzen, Ngyo, Kogoduk, Ruk,
Dogo, Kufang, Kpapkpiduk,
Kai in Barakin-Ladi Local
Government Area.
About 15 people were said
to have been killed at Kuzen,
eight at Kakuruk and
another eight in other
villages in the local
government.


The attackers were said to
have later moved to villages
in Riyom LG where they
destroyed houses and other
property but were
successfully repelled by the
people who, having got wind
of their attack on their
neighbors, mobilized and
confronted them.

The member representing
the two local government
areas in the House of
Representatives, Hon. Simon
Mwadkon, described the
attack as unfortunate at a
time efforts were on to
restore peace to the area.
He said the attack was a
vindication of his outcry that
there were terrorist elements
in the two local government
areas which ironically are
under a state of emergency.
He confirmed that 20 bodies
of those killed had been
recovered while efforts were
on to recover other bodies.
He also confirmed the killing
of two security men during
the attacks.

It was learnt that men of the
Special Task Force (STF)
maintaining security in the
state moved men into the
area to track down the
assailants. Residents said
they heard multiple gun
shots, Saturday evening, in
what looked like an
exchange between the
security men and the
attackers.
Media Officer of the STF,
Captain Salisu Mustapha, said
he was yet to get details of
the casualty when
contacted.

www.vanguardngr.com/2012/07/30-killed-in-fresh-attacks-in-plateau/
PoliticsRe: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Torch1(m): 8:06pm On Jul 07, 2012
ZUBY77: Golden Royale at Bissala road. These guys asked that i pay 35k for a room one night. I wanted to stay there because it is close to 8hours joint. I told the receptionist to wait for me so that i can get the money in my car, think she is still waiting. Ole!
hahahaha! Nwanne idikwa 2much!
PoliticsRe: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Torch1(m): 6:29pm On Jul 05, 2012
Da infamous: innoson brand has now taken over most transport and school buses even bin trucks, in the east, are mostly innoson..........
Good development!
PoliticsRe: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Torch1(m): 5:50am On Jul 04, 2012
kalufelix: onye na evu gi o na azu ahia akpukpu ukwu na main market??
lol..
PoliticsRe: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Torch1(m): 5:18am On Jul 04, 2012
@Spyder.. You have done a great work here, i have been following this wonderful thread since i came back from work last night.
I have been to P.H, Awka, Owerri, Lagos, Ibadan etc.. Am yet to visit Enugu but with what am seeing here i think Enugu city is more beautiful apart from Lasgidi(Lagos).
Thanks 4 this wonderful thread. Nwanne daalu!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Euro 2012: Germany Vs Italy (1 - 2) On 28th June 2012 by Torch1(m): 9:39pm On Jun 28, 2012
Game over! Italy Vs Spain.. Finals
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Euro 2012: Germany Vs Italy (1 - 2) On 28th June 2012 by Torch1(m): 9:36pm On Jun 28, 2012
Penalty.. Goal by Ozil. 91mins.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Euro 2012: Germany Vs Italy (1 - 2) On 28th June 2012 by Torch1(m): 9:32pm On Jun 28, 2012
Pirlo is the best for now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Euro 2012: Germany Vs Italy (1 - 2) On 28th June 2012 by Torch1(m): 9:24pm On Jun 28, 2012
Am enjoying this Italian defense..
When will our super Eagles be strong like them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Euro 2012: Germany Vs Italy (1 - 2) On 28th June 2012 by Torch1(m): 9:20pm On Jun 28, 2012
Some players are really selfish.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Euro 2012: Germany Vs Italy (1 - 2) On 28th June 2012 by Torch1(m): 9:03pm On Jun 28, 2012
Italy Vs Spain for final.. Thanks to Animal Mario Balotelli.
Politics21 Killed As Gunmen And JTF Clash In Kano, Yobe by Torch1(op): 6:20am On Jun 28, 2012
By AbdulSalam Muhammad &
Ndahi Marama
KANO — No fewer than 17
Islamist militants were killed,
yesterday, in Kano after two
days of sustained exchange
of fire between the militants
and security agents. Four
others were also reportedly
killed in Damaturu, Yobe
State capital. It was gathered
that three undergraduates
were among those arrested
by security agents.

The gunmen had reportedly
launched an operation,
attacking seven targets with
explosives and assault rifles
in Kano during the attack
that lasted about 12 hours.

The military Joint Task Force,
JTF, reportedly killed two of
the attackers in Damaturu,
while one was arrested in
the 30-minute fierce battle
that later spread to the
Federal Polytechnic,
Damaturu, premises.
It was alleged that a group
of unknown gunmen,
suspected to be terrorists,
had earlier attacked a police
out-post in Sabon Fegi ward
in the metropolis, killing two
civilians. A woman and her
child were hit by stray bullets
during the exchange of
gunfire between the
gunmen and men of JTF.

Kano State Commissioner of
Police, Ibrahim Idris told
newsmen in Kano that the
gunmen attacked their
targets with explosives and
assault riffles, adding that no
fewer than 14 Improvised
Explosive Devices, IEDs, were
defused by the Bomb
Disposal Unit of the police
command during the
gunfight.

He said: “Some extremists
launched an attack with
bombs and assault rifles on
Dala Police Station, Jakara
Police Barracks, Goron Dutse
Division, Panshekara Division,
52 Squadron Mobile Police
Unit, Challawa; and also
planted bombs at the Junior
Secondary School, Sabuwar
Doka in Ungogo Local
Government.

“The extremists, who were
about 30, attacked
policemen on duty with
assault rifles and IEDs, and
the policemen gallantly
repelled the attacks.”
He added that the
‘’extremists’’ also attacked
the Goron Dutse Prison yard,
but the policemen on duty
repelled their attacks
successfully. He said no
damage was done to the
prisons, even as the situation
was now under control.

The police boss, however,
revealed that the command
lost a police Sergeant just as
another sergeant sustained
injuries.
According to him, items
recovered from the religious
extremists included five
assault rifles, 220 live
ammunition, five vehicles,
three motorcycles, large
quantities of drugs and
syringes, and N100,000 cash.

The Commissioner, however,
commended the people of
the state for their
cooperation with law
enforcement agencies and
urged them not to relent in
providing useful information.
However, commenting on
the incident in Damaturu, the
Yobe State Police
Commissioner, Patrick
Egbuniwe, said in a
telephone interview
yesterday that “there were
attacks on a police and
military posts by suspected
gunmen, where two civilians
were killed in the Sabon Fegi
ward and the Federal
Polytechnic staff quarters.”
He said there were still some
assailants hiding among the
communities in the
metropolis, warning that the
police and JTF would
continue to raid such
hideouts, which pose
increased security threats to
lives and property in the
state.

He said there was no
casualty during Tuesday’s
attacks on the part of men of
the JTF and police, urging the
residents to always
cooperate with security
agents, by providing useful
information on the hideouts
and modus operandi of
terrorists in their midst.
www.vanguardngr.com/2012/06/21-killed-as-gunmen-jtf-clash-in-kano-yobe/
PoliticsRe: Its In The Interest Of North Not To Field A Candidate In 2015 - Asari Dokubo by Torch1(op): 6:00am On Jun 23, 2012
PoliticsIts In The Interest Of North Not To Field A Candidate In 2015 - Asari Dokubo by Torch1(op): 5:48am On Jun 23, 2012
BY SIMON EBEGBULEM, Benin
City
Alhaji Asari Dokubo, a former
President of the Ijaw Youth
Council and leader of the
Niger Delta Peoples Volunteer
Force (NDPVF).
In this interview with
Saturday Vanguard in Benin
City, he bared his mind about
current political situation in
the country, saying that the
people of the South South
are prepared to protect the
Presidency of Goodluck
Jonathan, and warned the
North against fielding
candidates in 2015.
He insisted that after the
tenure of Jonathan, the
presidency must move to the
South East for the interest of
peace and harmony.
Ahead the July 14,
governorship election in the
state, he expressed optimism
that President Jonathan will
ensure a free and fair
election.He also warned that
the people of Edo State and
the Niger Delta will resist any
attempt to rig the election in
favour of the Peoples
Democratic Party (PDP).
Excerpts:
Few months ago the PDP in
Edo State threatened to
take you to court after you
endorsed Governor Adams
Oshiomhole,and warned
against rigging?
They say clear conscience
fears no accusation. The
warning was not directed to
any particular party. It was
made in the direction of any
body who attempts to
manipulate the election. But
if the PDP believe that it was
directed at them so be it
because the people of Edo
State cannot afford to go
through the trauma that they
went through the last time
when their mandate was
stolen and it took them time,
as they went through pains
and people even died to
reclaim the mandate. I think
the PDP should be calling for
free and fair election. If there
is no PDP Federal
Government I don’t think the
PDP will be playing God in
Edo state or else where.
Asari Dokubo
The truth is that without a
PDP Federal Government I
don’t think the PDP can
contest election in Edo state
and hope that they can win
up to five per cent of the
votes because of their
antecedent in the state.
Benin City is like my second
home after Warri. For eight
years that the PDP was here
they destroyed the state,
there was nothing to show
that there was government.
Today, the people can see
the difference between
Adams Oshiomhole and the
rest. After Dr Ogbemudia and
Alli the state was dead, every
body went to sleep.
But Adams has rejuvenated
the state, he has woken the
people up. If it was in a
society where opinion polls
matters, by now we would
have known the loser and
the winner. Oshiomhole
would not even go through
the rigours of campaigning.
There is a new Edo State
today and any body who
cannot see it is not fair to the
people of the state and the
people of Edo state should
reject such person.
So the PDP knows that they
do not have any locus to take
any body to court, I am free
to say any thing I want to
say, go any where I want to
go to as long as I don’t flout
the law of the land. And what
I have said in this particular
situation is very very true
that no body should attempt
or even think of rigging this
election. The people will not
allow this election to be
rigged, the peoples votes
must count.
But there is this talk about
Jonathan deploying the
Federal Might in Edo state
to capture the state for his
party the PDP?
I am a supporter of Goodluck
Jonathan and the Goodluck I
know cannot do such a
thing. However, some people
change when they get into
office. But it is not to the
advantage of Goodluck to rig
the election in Edo state for
PDP because it will cause a
serious problem in his base
if he allows the unity that
was there before his election
to be eroded due to pressure
from few cabals.
The whole people of the
South South got up to say to
hell with tyranny, they look at
arrogance eye ball to eye ball
and told them you don’t have
the powers to stop us and
they voted for Jonathan. We
said we will stand you and
any thing you bring we are
ready to bring to fight.
Even though Oshiomhole is
an ACN man, though Alhaji
Dokubo is not a PDP man,
came together with one
voice and brought Jonathan.
It was not PDP that brought
Jonathan to power, Jonathan
enjoyed the popular vote of
the people. Our people in the
South South did not protest
during the fuel subsidy
removal because we are
aware that some people said
if they don’t produce the
president they will make the
state ungovernable for
Jonathan and they have been
doing that.
We did that because
Jonathan is our own. And if
Jonathan with all these now
decides to support those
who want to steal the
mandate Edo people will
freely give to Oshiomhole,
then I think people like us
will start to question our
support for Goodluck
Jonathan.Then he will no
longer be representing the
collective interest of the
people of the South South
and the Niger Delta and the
South East and all the
oppressed people.
Our support for Jonathan
was not because he is
Jonathan, our support was
that look for the first time
after June 12, we are
confronting tyranny and
telling tyranny that you
cannot cross this line.For the
first time after June 12, we
are confronting arrogance
that we are born to rule, that
this line you cannot cross it,
we dared them and they
could not cross the line.
Jonathan may not be the
best in the South South but
he represents the symbol of
our freedom.
If after the people made this
sacrifice, then Jonathan will
now turn round and connive
with some people who for
ten years, held the people of
Edo State hostage, held the
people in darkness, poverty
and penury, then some of us
will say no, you are no longer
representing the interest of
the South South, the
oppressed people.
Look when people talk about
money, I laugh because
Jonathan will give me more
money than any thing I can
get from Edo state or
Oshiomhole. But the battle
we fight people don’t
understand, some people sat
down some where to say we
are minority and we asked,
where have scientific census
been held to determine who
are minority and who are
majority.
That you have the right to
perpetually subjugate us, to
take our resources, to
destroy our environment,
murder our leaders and
nothing will happen.
Jonathan did not fight to
become President, it was the
collective struggle of the
totality of the people of the
South South, the people of
the Middle Belt, the South
East who has been
considered as second class
citizens in a country that
belongs to all of us.
And it will be very wrong for
Jonathan to pay back to the
people of Edo State, by
backing any plot to rig
Oshiomhole out of power
when the entire people of
the state appreciate his
performance. If that
happens, people like us will
say you no longer represents
our interest so go and use
your federal might to
confront those who think
that they are born to rule,
they have the exclusive
preserve for power, if you
can go and confront them
without our support we will
say okay go.
I don’t believe that there is
any might that can stand
against the might of the
people when the people
have spoken. And I don’t
think Jonathan will buy that
because he is too intelligent
for that.
Of what political value are
these so called god fathers in
Edo State other than they will
manipulate the electoral
process to rig election. Will
Jonathan be interested in
seeing the blood of the
people who voted for him to
flow? Because I know that
the people of Edo State, the
people of the South South
who sees what Oshiomhole
represents will resist them. I
don’t think Jonathan is ready
to gambel with the good will
he enjoys from the people,
he will not.
June 12 and renaming of
UNILAG after MKO Abiola
I think the renaming of
UNILAG is a very small start. It
is a step in the right
direction but one comes to
question the sincerity of
those who has been crying
all these about Abiola. Some
of us now come to see that
the MKO who we supported
with out lives, that some
people especially his people
were only using his name, to
get power. The decision of
President Jonathan clearly
exposed their hypocrisy. But
I think it is not enough.
For those of us who believe
in what Abiola did, some
body who was close to MKO
Abiola, I believe the President
of Nigeria should go on and
restore to MKO the status of
a former President and pay
all his entitlements for four
years to his family.
Then June 12 should be
declared an Abiola national
public holiday and it is easy
to do it through an act of
parliament. This will not
totally remove the injustice
but it will go along way in
mitigating the injustice that
was done to MKO Abiola and
Nigerians. And again those
who are responsible for the
annulment of June 12
election should be brought
to book.
PoliticsRe: Intrigues As ACN Picks Akeredolu As Ondo Governorship Candidate by Torch1(m): 3:41pm On Jun 21, 2012
dayokanu: This is the difference between ACN and PDP in the Southwest

See the person ACN chose former NBA chairman meaning he is a lawyer,

ACN

Fashola - Lawyer SAN

Ajimobi - Accountant former chairman of NOLCHEM

Amosun- Accountant Ogun

Fayemi - Former Lecturer Ekiti

Now lets see the PDP candidates

Obanikoro - A thug and murderer. No Profession for LAGOS

Alao-Akala - A disgraced policeman for OYO

Iyiola Omisore - A thug and murderer No Profession for OSUN

Ayo Fayose - A Thug and rascal for Ekiti
O'gbeni Rauf Aregbeshola('O'man) nko? Is he no longer ACN Governor?
@topic.. I taught this zoning issue only exist in PDP, so ACN also choose their candidate by zone and not by the credibility of their candidates?
PoliticsRe: Please I Want To Know If Kalabari Is Igbo Or Ijaw. by Torch1(m): 1:47pm On Jun 21, 2012
gerald28: I want to know if Kalabari is igbo or Ijaw, I noticed they speak igbo quite fluently, example patience jonathan and some few I came across with. Feel free to make a contribution.
The last time i checked they are still Ijaw subgroup just like EzeUche said but many of them in Port Harcourt city speak Igbo language very well.
PoliticsRe: Dying Suicide Bomber Tells Police: “we Are Doing God’s Work” by Torch1(m):
this is what the Quran says about
Jihad and see for yourself the
motivations behind the atrocities
committed by the boko haram
[qoute]The Quran:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay
them wherever ye find them, and
drive them out of the places
whence they drove you out, for
persecution [of Muslims] is
worse than slaughter [of non-
believers]... but if they desist,
then lo! Allah is forgiving and
merciful. And fight them until
persecution is no more, and
religion is for Allah.
" The
historical context of this passage
is not defensive warfare, since
Muhammad and his Muslims had
just relocated to Medina and
were not under attack by their
Meccan adversaries. In fact, the
verses urge offensive warfare, in
that Muslims are to drive Meccans
out of their own city (which they
later did). The use of the word
"persecution" by some Muslim
translators is thus disingenuous
(the actual Muslim words for
persecution - "idtihad" - and
oppression - a variation of "z-l-
m" - do not appear in the verse).
The actual Arabic comes from
"fitna" which can mean disbelief,
or the disorder that results from
unbelief or temptation. Taken as
a whole, the context makes clear
that violence is being authorized
until "religion is for Allah" - ie.
unbelievers desist in their
unbelief.
Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the
cause of Allah, and know that
Allah Heareth and knoweth all
things."
[b]Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is
prescribed for you, and ye dislike
it. But it is possible that ye dislike
a thing which is good for you,
and that ye love a thing which is
bad for you. But Allah knoweth,
and ye know not."
Not only does
this verse establish that violence
can be virtuous, but it also
contradicts the myth that
fighting is intended only in self-
defense, since the audience was
obviously not under attack at the
time. From the Hadith, we know
that this verse was narrated at a
time that Muhammad was
actually trying to motivate his
people into raiding merchant
caravans for loot.
Quran (3:56) - "As to those who
reject faith, I will punish them
with terrible agony in this world
and in the Hereafter, nor will they
have anyone to help."
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We
cast terror into the hearts of the
Unbelievers, for that they joined
companions with Allah, for which
He had sent no authority".
This
speaks directly of polytheists, yet
it also includes Christians, since
they believe in the Trinity (ie.
what Muhammad incorrectly
believed to be 'joining
companions to Allah').
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in
the way of Allah who sell the life
of this world for the other.
Whoso fighteth in the way of
Allah, be he slain or be he
victorious, on him We shall
bestow a vast reward."
The
martyrs of Islam are unlike the
early Christians, led meekly to the
slaughter. These Muslims are
killed in battle, as they attempt to
inflict death and destruction for
the cause of Allah. Here is the
theological basis for today's
suicide bombers.

Quran (4:76) - "Those who
believe fight in the cause of
Allah…"
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish
that ye should reject Faith, as
they do, and thus be on the same
footing (as they): But take not
friends from their ranks until
they flee in the way of Allah
(From what is forbidden). But if
they turn renegades, seize them
and slay them wherever ye find
them; and (in any case) take no
friends or helpers from their
ranks."
Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are
those believers who sit (at home)
and receive no hurt, and those
who strive and fight in the cause
of Allah with their goods and
their persons. Allah hath granted
a grade higher to those who
strive and fight with their goods
and persons than to those who
sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith)
Hath Allah promised good: But
those who strive and fight Hath
He distinguished above those
who sit (at home) by a special
reward,-"
This passage criticizes
"peaceful" Muslims who do not
join in the violence, letting them
know that they are less worthy in
Allah's eyes. It also demolishes
the modern myth that "Jihad"
doesn't mean holy war in the
Quran, but rather a spiritual
struggle. Not only is the Arabic
word used in this passage, but it
is clearly not referring to
anything spiritual, since the
physically disabled are given
exemption. (The Hadith reveals
the context of the passage to be
in response to a blind man's
protest that he is unable to
engage in Jihad and this is
reflected in other translations of
the verse).
Quran (4:104) - "And be not
weak hearted in pursuit of the
enemy; if you suffer pain, then
surely they (too) suffer pain as
you suffer pain..."
Is pursuing an
injured and retreating enemy
really an act of self-defense?[/qoute]
PoliticsRe: Innoson Group Wins 2012 African Business Of The Year Award In London by Torch1(m): 10:20am On Jun 17, 2012
God Bless Innoson Group!
PoliticsRe: 2015: ACN/CPC Merger Leaders Reach Out To IBB, Atiku •APGA Splits by Torch1(m): 9:46am On Jun 17, 2012
Are they merging to provide Nigerians with a better leader comes 2015 or they merging to give us any leader from Nothern region.
PoliticsRe: Governor Peter Obi Defend His Goverment Over Nasir El Rufai Accusations by Torch1(m): 5:10am On Jun 17, 2012
9ja_I_hail: My dear i posted this thread since last night and was expecting moderators of this nairaland to put it on front page as they put the el rufai accusation, hell no they won't put it since it did not suit their tribalistic nature,all they care to put on front page is things that work against eastern region. Many of those who have speaking ill of obi and anambra state have distant them self from this thread why because obi came out in a different form they don't expect,well i still maitain my stand as long as anambra is concerned no state in northern part that can be compare with anambra despite it lack federal presences.RUBISH
Don't mind those moderators, am sure if this topic is about any of those South West states under ACN they would have moved it to home page.
PoliticsRe: Governor Peter Obi Defend His Goverment Over Nasir El Rufai Accusations by Torch1(m): 6:54pm On Jun 16, 2012
Please! moderators i think this topic deserve to be on front page.
This is what many people have been demanding for Gov. Obi to come out and defend El-Rufai's accusations.

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