gatiano:
Like always, The Bible believers have a magnificent way of dodging questions. However, I am always down for learning.
so why will the bible contradict itself? in one place, it said, the meek shall inherit the earth, and in other place it talked about rapture. which am i to believe?

When the Bible said the meek shall inherit the earth, it was not talking about this present earth that is reserved for fire and destruction. It was talking about the new earth, the new Jerusalem. Concerning the rapture, unless your Bible says something contrary, those who are raptured when Christ returns will be taken to heaven, not hell.

Who is Paul?
Most importantly, Who is GOD? who is the devil/satan?
did the donkey really speak? and when Jesus asked his disciples to go bring the donkey that was hold down, and the disciples were reluntant, Jesus told his disciples to tell the holders that The Lord have need of the donkey. what is so special about this donkey?
Who is the Lamb? and what is the lamb's (animal) characters?
what is the relationship between samson's strength and his hair? I think they called him a ruler, but he only appeared as though he is a fighter.
and there are a lot more. start teaching and save some souls.

these are irrelevant questions and have no bearing on the topic of the thread which asks if hell exists.

Weah96:


Heard about it as a child, rejected it as an adult. This is not new information. Btw, those who claim to believe in hell fire and still go about disobeying the deities who designed the everlasting flaming embers, don't really believe in it either. They're simply merging into the herd, like drunk, disoriented sheep.

All I can say to you is time will tell.

gatiano:
You sound like one of those who would have crucified Jesus because he said He was GOD, like those who were shouting "crucify him, crucify him", yet you claim to love Him. You are an hypocrite, all the way from this screen, it is so clear that you are an hypocrite, change for GOD can't be fooled. Like i said, all will go to hell to be washed or cleaned of the sin they commited and the horrors they've experienced. Hypocrites are one of the millions that will spend almost like 300 years to final death in hell, because they will keep saying they believe, while deep in their heart, they do not. I bet you think that donkey spoke back to her tormentor, and A snake spoke and used a hand to give an apple to Eve, or that hell is deep in the ground.
Let me share to you about another kind of hell that most christians will go, in actual fact, this one is literally a place. It is about the rapture, where do you think, people would be raptured to, when the Bible clearly states that the meek shall inherit the earth?

No, I sound like someone who is trying to signal a clueless bloke to keep him from blindly falling over a steep cliff along with others. Look down, you will see the shattered bones of thousands who were blindly led to their untimely demise by heresy. You walk aimlessly into the common grave of preachers of heresy. My voice is not the sound of condemnation but an alarm of warning.

You see the bolded? Having made my point I rest my case.

Weah96:


See this other featherweight. You are the one doing the lying. Did God talk to you, or did you merely read a fcking book?

You can call me what you wish but the unfading truth in the Bible can never be diluted by wrong interpretation.

Whether you believe hell is a literal place or a metaphor for present suffering or just a symbol of the grave does not make it any less terrible than it really is. Hell exists and you will do well to avoid any path that leads to it.

gatiano:
Like i said it doesn't exist, i did not say hell does not exist, it exists, but not as a place where anybody would be force into. When you haer of poverty, sickness without adequate treatment and care, unhappiness, discontentment, bad water and food, bad educational system, children without shelter and food, illitracy, wars, diseases etc, this are all hell on the physical, and Heaven (physical) is all good and contentment. The best word in the context will be best called "Hereafter"- The world after the rule of the wicked which is heaven (physical) on earth while the people still lives.

Once a great man that i heard once asked the auditorium of about 10,000 people "IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE WITHOUT SIN, STAND UP"! Nobody, not one was on their feet. If GOD is to punish all for sin, Only GOD will be in heaven.
The spiritual hell is not a place too simply because a soul and spirit without a body does not adhere to time, time is nothing to a spirit and soul but it does exist, that personality still exist. But since all has tasted, seen, felt, did sin, we must all go to hell, it is a must (according to me), we must all go to hell because we will all be attracted to it, (GOD does not have the time to begin to open books and check names for 7 billion people). The maximum time that will be spent in hell is 3 days, but then soul and spirit don't adhere to time.
take a person that loves to gamble, rob and lust after women, This hell is meant to remove the love of gambling, robbing and lust from your heart. some might leave it quick within just 3 secs, some will hold on to it for 3hrs till 900years not wanting to give it up (remember, there can't be hypocrites in Heaven). Thus Abacha must have just spent 3 sec in hell and bounced into heaven like nothing happened, while who you think might be so holy may spend 30 years there struggling not wanting to depart from the love of his/her heart. One of the things also in hell is to accept who you are which is either GOD or devil, Then amendments can commence.

Lies! Lies!! Lies!!! blind and blatant heresy! Keep deceiving and being deceived!

Hell is a literal place of punishment. Read the story of Lazarus and the rich man and many of Christ's teachings about hell. Read the book of Revelations. Do you think God is a man that He should lie? Once in hell, forever in hell! Gospel truth.

The wise will do whatever it takes to avoid it.

dstnd:
...I will try download them...I still love beautiful exchange

Will download it. Just curious but I want to ask if you've heard Chris Tomlin's songs.

Esiri111:

Wow you're Privileged.

Thanks, but the greatest privilege is being a child of God the Creator of the universe through faith in Jesus Christ. Nothing beats that.

ProphetUdeme:
no need to.. She is an atheist

Yeah, pity. However, atheism is a temporary illusion that quickly wears away when it faces the truth....and that is inevitable.

Jameselias:
autentic images pls.

Don't you worry, you shall see it for yourself, someday. That is much more convincing than any authentic images cos seeing is believing, right?

ProphetUdeme:
cool. Longtime man

Long time, good friend. It's been a while.

eminentme:
just red(read) the whole story.....hmmmm God have mercy on me. I don't want to end up in hell.

and you won't if you've made Jesus your personal Lord and Saviour and if you continue to live in Him because the Bible says that he who endures to the end shall be saved. No man knows his end, only God does.

lepasharon:
Rubbish !

It is the truth, rubbish or not. The afterlife is far greater in importance than this fleeting present life.

dinachi:
Another case of another atrociously evil woman abusing children! The husband should as a matter of urgency arrest her make sure she gats a fair trial and a sentencing while the divorce proceedings are going on. We must rid our society of the evil women.

Sophyrocks said it. I've witnessed it. You are indeed a misogynist.

What did women ever do to you that makes you attack them senselessly, needlessly and constantly?

mutter:

Please assure him I am very much a woman, just that I like to be objective.

Well now that the story has unfolded some more it is clear I was not weighing heavily on the mens side.
Look how this woman keeps on and on even when her husband came on here, she goes on.
No shame, no regard for her husband or her kid`s. This is a disgrace.
Even in law there is room for provocation and if you make a man mad enough, he can get away with murder. So let us be kind to tell the woman the truth. She ought to apologize to the man..
I don`t blame the man coming out here to defend himself if he reads the one-sided flow of information here.
By the way OP why could you not hear the door bell at 9 in the night.

Why should anyone advise the man to hold the keys to his home. He can have one , yes. But as long as there are people at home, why should he use the key?
When a husband/ father comes home- the proper thing is for the wife to open the door and welcome him with a smile and a kiss , hug
How could she be sleeping when the man was out.
I always know when my husband is back even if I don`t hear his car. I just have the feeling that he is coming home, that is how it functions in a home.
But maybe she was busy finishing her call with one of her lovers that she did not hear the door.
It is a big question to me why the man would want the little girl to wait up for him? That is child abuse and this was also supported by the woman because it was her failure to do her duty that lead to this suggestion.
What a shame, a marriage with two kid`s and still basics are an issue.

Mutter, haven't you said enough? I could easily make large, gaping holes in your argument but I'd rather not because reading it is just plain sickening.

lilcutie8916:
so u cant answer? u guys always claim to have all the answers.

Please give us names of the omniscient christians you've come across.


I shall attempt your question because the answer is already in the Bible.


Why did God keep Noah to repopulate the earth if He knew man would continue in sin? Your question in a nutshell.


In the garden of Eden, when Man fell, God told the devil that His seed, Jesus, would bruise his head while the devil would bruise His heel. The prophecy had not come to pass during the Flood.


God's plans are different from your plans. He might tell you His destination but you can never understand the path He takes to that destination. His ways are mysterious. His ultimate plan was redemption of Man but the devil tried to stop that plan by making evil increase on the earth so that God would destroy man that the seed as prophesied should not come to pass. God destroyed the earth with water but He kept Noah to be His vessel through which His Word would come to pass.


Now if God destroyed man from the face of the earth without fulfilling His plan of redemption from sin, does that make His Word reliable?


Others might give even better reasons than this but this should suffice as answer to your question.

thinkingbee:
Hi everyone

Sometimes instead of bottling emotions up, some people just want a forum to talk. Please dnt try to discourage because u don't know...rather if u see a different view express ur self without trying to create drama, or unnecessary bias. In fact u should feel blessed to ve an opportunity to heal a fellow human.

Since their hearts have become irreversibly numb you can't really blame them for lacking empathy, for lacking feeling, for attacking you rather than the problem.

I'm glad you've let go of the thoughts of revenge. It is a step in the right direction. What is left is solely your decision - to keep staying with him or seek separation from him (not divorce). The longer you stay with him, the greater the possibility of not making it out alive.


May God keep you safe and sound, and give you the grace to overcome. Stay blessed and do not forget to pray.

Sophyrocks:


You notice they absolved the husband of any blame and never condemned his atrocity. It took a well known misogynistic whiner, who derives joy in using his emotions and frustrations to comment, to chip in child abuse issue to distract the rest who are willing to jump into his bandwagon and change the thread to a different topic entirely. Thereby, turning the thread to a free for all.

Funny right?

So funny. As long as the op is still alive, as long as she still has a fighting chance to survive every ordeal her husband puts her through, they judge the husband right.

It is only when she dies from the physical abuse that they judge the husband wrong.

Funny peeps I tell you.

dinachi:
Shut it! You should be embarrassed already. So you encouraged Op subjecting a minor to child labor and abuse? I do hope you are not the type that enjoys inflicting pain on children, because that is the height of wickedness. Her story doesn't make any sense and I have asked her to clarify some points to no avail. Did she attack the husband physically to warrant him transferring the cane from the poor girl to her?

In the first place, the issue here has nothing to do with child abuse. Don't digress. It is a reliable sign of confused thinking. Stick to the topic.

If a woman provokes you, does it justify your beating her? Even if the op did something to aggravate the anger of her husband, did that give him licence to pummel her or paint her eyes black?

A real man, I mean a REAL man, will never ever lay a finger on a woman.

Women can be difficult sometimes, but responding to her actions with bashing is a big no no.

Your type of man will even go so far as to hit a pregnant lady because it is justified if she is found to have provoked you. Your type has no problem publicly disgracing his woman or sisters, subjecting them to any physical abuse your twisted imagination can conceive. Your type is the type that hits his mother over trivia without remorse.

If you believe there is any justification for beating a woman, physically abusing her (and you do having said it in so many words), treating her like a sac for punching, then you're an obnoxious, murderous, pitiless, hardened, savage creature. It doesn't matter that your skin looks human.

IyawoToBe:





Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! You repulse me... I pity the unfortunate woman who will end up with you. *spits in disgust* Tufiakwa!!!

I did not read your comment but it is obvious to any reader that guy is just another faceless wife beater, molester, abuser trying to protect his brother of the same evil blood by justifying his brother's action of physically abusing his wife.

I can never lay a finger on any girl no matter. I have sisters and cousins who have pushed me to the limits many times...but I take pride in the fact that I never let my anger control my actions. I believe any man who lays a finger on a woman is less than a man. If it becomes a habit, then he is a beast.

So what is the great justicication for punching and slapping and beating a woman?

dinachi:
Perhaps you don't need any advice at all. I will never tolerate anybody coming here in the public to run down their supposed beloved spouse without at least showing clearly they are not at fault. I can only comment based on what you wrote.. If I got you clearly, you were not the original target for the pounding. How did the 'annointing' transfer from the girl in question to you? Did you confront your husband? Did you attack him in a bid to save your girl and put him on the defensive? Give a clearer picture and stop calling your husband names.

Initially, I decided to read the comments to know what people would say about this age old practice of savage cavemen practicing fisticuffs on their wives without adding mine...and then I read your comment I can only describe as pathetic and balderdash.

The op, she gave a clear specific example of battering she and a little child experienced in the hands of a so-called husband among so many others she cannot now tell but all you can contribute are senseless questions aimed at ascertaining the extent of her fault to have merited such inhuman treatment. Gosh! What about the 12 year old. What did a little girl of that age do to deserve such callous manhandling or brutal physical abuse? Obviously you ignored that. No, you wanted a CLEARER picture hoping to pin the fault of a man's violent tendencies on his wife, that is, to justify his actions.

You may even be worse than that man...may God help you and whoever is dumb enough to be called your spouse.