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Christianity Etc › Re: God Showed Me The Place Called Hell. by torchwave(op): 3:47pm On Feb 22, 2015

Horus:
Hell is a fabrication.The concept of hell is something that was created in the hearts and minds of the authors of your Bible and Koran. Before you were informed of what and where hell was, it never crossed your mind to even think about it. So, within the pages of your scriptures hell was born. Just as a God could not exist without the devil, heaven could not exist if there wasn’t a hell.So where did hell come from? It didn’t exist in Adam’s, Noah’s, nor Abraham’s time. It is something that was fabricated so that they could capitalize off of your fear.

Hell is no myth or fairy tale. God is confirming His Word, calling many to be His witnesses that He warned you severally about the reality and horrors of hell of which I happen to be one who is unworthy but chosen by grace to be among His countless witnesses of the reality of hell.

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Christianity Etc › Re: God Showed Me The Place Called Hell. by torchwave(op): 3:39pm On Feb 22, 2015

I really don't know why God showed me and made me have a taste of hell since there are hundreds of more in-depth revelations of hell experienced by many all over the world, but I do know that God, in His mercy, is still reaching out to unbelievers, atheists, sinners, the backslidden through these revelations in order to keep them from going to that terrible place of no return.

I tell you, there is nothing in this world worth going to hell. Be wise. Choose Life, follow Jesus Christ. He is the only Way of escape from hell as long as you still have breath in you... Hell is full of people who said, "Tomorrow, I will accept Christ as my saviour" but died that day.

Father, I've done Your will. I have shared the vision You gave me. Now, let Your Spirit work in their hearts and lead them to salvation in Christ Jesus. AMEN.

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Christianity Etc › Re: God Showed Me The Place Called Hell. by torchwave(op): 3:23pm On Feb 22, 2015

In hell, the senses of my soul were sharper than they are in the body. I knew the magnitude of the suffering and torment of eternal separation from God. It was, in my soul's knowledge, far far larger than it in weight and size which explains its unbearable nature defying its capacity to be endured, yet had to be endured for all eternity because the soul doesn't die. I was in total and extreme anguish. I felt pain, pain and suffering like I have never ever felt before. That was when I knew that, not the fires, the worms, the perpetual hunger or thirst make up the greatest suffering in hell but the knowledge of everlasting separation from God...that is hell itself.

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Christianity Etc › Re: God Showed Me The Place Called Hell. by torchwave(op): 3:07pm On Feb 22, 2015

In the far distance, I could see flames dancing in the air. I wouldn't exaggerate that I saw huge flames but when I compare the distance from where I stood and my ability to see the flames which couldn't penetrate the darkness, I believe it must be very terrible if one was in it. I also knew there were souls being tormented in those fires.

In my case, I was isolated. I wasn't in any fires because God wanted me to experience something more terrible than the fires of hell.

That was when I felt the most unbearable pain in the universe, the keenest and sharpest pain in hell which my soul found very very unbearable, beyond my ability to cope - the pain of everlasting separation from God.

Christianity Etc › Re: God Showed Me The Place Called Hell. by torchwave(op): 2:55pm On Feb 22, 2015

I believe God did not permit me to see the Gate of Hell and that may explain the mist around it.

Suddenly, the Spirit of God took me and I found myself in an isolated part of hell.

I did not hear screamings and wailings and all that. I will only narrate what I saw. When I found myself in hell, I discovered that it was another world of its own. It was like being in a very terrible world where there was no dot of hope of escape. I also discovered that the word 'darkest' cannot do justice in describing the darkness there. It was the blackness of darkness where the atmosphere was completely and beyond dark. I looked up in hell, there was no moon or stars or sky, just blackness pervading the landscape.

Christianity Etc › God Showed Me The Place Called Hell. by torchwave(op): 2:40pm On Feb 22, 2015

It was a brief vision (or trance) of hell which I saw in a dream but the vision, its impression has never left my mind. It remains fresh in my memory even though it was given me in the last quarter of year 2014.

I decided to share it now because I have had a lot of pressure in my spirit lately to tell my brief experience to the world. This pressure keeps mounting everyday so that I just have to say it to experience a release from it.

The Vision
It was a fine Sunday afternoon when, not really intending to, I slept off .

Almost immediately, I was standing in front of something. I didn't see it clearly because there was this white mist that covered it. The mist spread in such a way that I could not see through it. However, by some supernatural knowledge, I knew with certainty that I was standing in front of the Gate of Hell...

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Christian Be Faithful To God Without Committing Sin (lying) In This World? by torchwave: 1:44pm On Feb 22, 2015

The problem lies in your definition of faithfulness. It is in contrast with God's.

Faithfulness does not imply a state of perfection. Such a state of existence in this flesh is utterly impossible. As long as we still dwell in a corruptible flesh, we'll always have problems with the flesh.

Abraham was counted faithful, yet it is no news that he lied on two occasions to save his skin. Peter denied Christ three times in one night. David, in addition to commiting adultery with Bathsheba, plotted the death of Bathsheba's husband...yet they were counted faithful.

Faithfulness means continuing in your walk with God even if you fall along the way. It means not letting your human nature keep you from following God everyday. Sin we must but continuing in that sin is what makes the difference in our faithfulness to God.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Priest Says God Is A Woman After He Died, Went To Heaven And Came Back by torchwave: 11:35am On Feb 22, 2015

christaddicted:
Even the devil can appear as an angel of light.

The devil needs ur active participation to fall to his deceit.

If that Priest is proficient enof with the Word of God, he'll know that's a false appearance.

Going to church with bulletin that has no bullet.

My Above Comment Is Like A Puzzle...Pray before u read again so as to understand...

Plz quote me not so u won't stand curseable.

You have said all that needs to be said. The devil is a master of deception. Underestimate him by neglecting the written Word at your own risk.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Kill Your Son If God Tell You To? by torchwave: 11:27am On Feb 22, 2015

Johnydon22, let me clear your miscomprehension of my argument.

You've read the Bible, haven't you? Then you should be able to tell me the standard by which God was able to judge people righteous or wicked. You should be able to tell me what it means to walk with God like Enoch did or how Noah was able to find favour in the eyes of God where others couldn't. You who have read the Bible, tell me why God looked at the sacrifice of Abel with favour but did not look upon the sacrifice of Cain in the same way? Don't tell me these people were lucky enough to be favoured by God or that God showed partiality by favouring them to the detriment of others or that you don't have any idea cos that will only be admitting that you've been laughing at your ignorance all this while.

Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Kill Your Son If God Tell You To? by torchwave: 4:50pm On Feb 20, 2015

johnydon22:
Oh men!!! now their was no law then, remind again is it not because of sin that sodom and gomorrah were destroyed? No sin then? why was the world destroyed during the time of noah since their was no law no sin?

Common mehn you can do better than this...

Our humanity should be our guidance to tell us that it is wrong to kill talk more of killing your own child.

If i were the one i would say "No i cant kill my son it is not right" i wouldnt even attempt it..

You guys always use this law crap to suit your deception but always forgets everybody don read bible

Now let me break it down to your understanding. The fact that I said that sin was absent where Law was absent does not mean Law and sin were non-existent.

Abraham was righteous because He faithfully obeyed the laws of God and he made sure his household did, too.

God punished the people of Sodom and Gomorrah because they lived wickedly, rejecting His laws and though He gave them time to repent they continued in their wickedness which is disobedience to the laws of God. God said in His word that in the days of ignorance, He overlooks. If He did not overlook their sins, then surely they were not ignorant of His laws.

Where God had not expressly forbiden an act, it was permissible as long as God was giving the command to perform that act but it would never contradict His commands. For example, in the book of Acts of the Apostles, in a trance where God told Peter to kill and eat animals He had forbiden the Israelites from eating in the Old Testament, Peter replied that he had never eaten any unclean animal. That was telling God that He forbade it and, therefore, he wouldn't eat it. God had expressly forbiden it in the OT. But God said, "What God has cleansed let no man call unclean." Peter told God His law about eating unclean animals. Note, this happened after the death of Christ. It means the old pattern of Law was no longer relevant through the death of Christ.

In essence, my point is God will never test our obedience by telling us to do something He has expressly forbiden and that in cases where His will about something has not been made known, it is permissible only when God is the One instructing it except, of course, the case of Apostle Peter where God was letting him understand that the old Law was no longer applicable to the believers since after Christ died on the cross

Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Kill Your Son If God Tell You To? by torchwave: 2:24pm On Feb 20, 2015

johnydon22:
So the one that talked to abraham was not the voice of God?

was the dude hallucinating on wet weed?

One thing is certain. God is not an author of confusion.

In the time of Abraham, God had not given any set of laws to guide mankind. And where there is no law, sin is absent.

Thus, in Abraham's case, his obedience was put to the test which was a symbolic action God used to show the world how He would sacrifice Jesus, His only begotten Son, to save mankind from eternal damnation.

After the laws came, never for once did God tell any man to commit a sin He has explicitly warned against in order to test their obedience to Him.

Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Kill Your Son If God Tell You To? by torchwave: 1:55pm On Feb 20, 2015

That would be in direct violation of the commands of God as spelt out in the Bible, and as such is anything but the voice of God.

The Bible is the Christian's yardstick to determine the authenticity or falsity of any voice that claims to be God's.

Family › Re: Hilarious Nigeria: What If Your Wife SLAPS Your Mum? by torchwave: 8:11am On Feb 19, 2015

Imoy:
Oga!

Too much grammer for simple question

tophee:
answer the question,no dy long matter

Lol. Nawao. Shey na only me waka com this thread? Una dey vex o.

Family › Re: Hilarious Nigeria: What If Your Wife SLAPS Your Mum? by torchwave: 4:45pm On Feb 16, 2015

Why would she even conceive that thought? It is the height of disrespect and, obviously, it suggests improper upbringing.

She will be a mother someday so if her daughters-in-law dish out the same treatment to her, she should not think it a new thing under the sun. It is the immutable law of seed time and harvest time at work.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Verses Of Killing And Terror by torchwave: 5:31pm On Feb 13, 2015

Op, such a pity you can read but lack comprehension. Even a primary school leaver will not confuse Old Testament commands to the Jews (physical Israelites) with the New Testament commands to everyone (spiritual Israelites through death of Christ).

Besides that, God's command to the Israelites to kill in the OT was intended to be carried out on a particular specifically mentioned people or nation at certain times, many times being that God's anger towards that nation was as a result of their wickedness towards the Israelites in the past or that God was driving the said nation away for the Israelites to dwell in those territories He had purposed for them to inherit.

God never gave the command to the OT Israelites to attack and kill anybody under heaven who didn't believe in Him. Rather, He even punished the Israelites whenever they sinned against Him and refused to repent by sending foreign nations to kill many of them and take many into captivity. God is a just God. He has no favourites.

This is Old Testament where God's dealings was strictly with the Jews or physical Israelites yet it is in stark contrast with the commands of Allah in Islam where his commands are meant to be carried out on everybody and anybody under heaven who does not believe in him, not a specific command in history made obsolete in the present by grace through the death of Christ as in Christianity but one that is an ongoing exercise, one that continues to be in motion even till date.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Noting Is Impossible These One's Are Even For A God by torchwave: 6:49am On Feb 12, 2015

Jameselias:
make una see this one ooh! i don laugh tire, See nollywood abeg, for ur mind now deepper life and christ embassy na the same pple abi, clap for ur self.

Different people, one Body in Christ. Christ is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Believe in Him and you are assured of eternal life. Being a Catholic or Methodist or Presbyterian or of Pentecostal or Apostolic denomination has nothing to do with salvation. They are just earthly structures that will crumble into dust one day and be forgotten.

What matters most or more than the church you belong to is if you've accepted the death of Christ as the only acceptable sacrifice for the forgiveness of your sins....that is the only thing God requires from you in order to be guaranteed eternity with Him.

You can laugh all you want. In the same vein many laughed at the gospel of Christ to the destruction of their unrepentant souls.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Letter To Satan by torchwave: 6:30am On Feb 12, 2015

tobechi74:
If satan catch you

Satan will not be as foolish to go after any of God's kids to harm them. He wouldn't dare. He knows it is a suicide mission to even contemplate it.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Noting Is Impossible These One's Are Even For A God by torchwave: 9:54pm On Feb 11, 2015

You don't see because you don't believe.

The saints make up the Church (not churches) whose head is Christ.

Moreover, when they all finally come together in heaven, there will be perfect unity because heaven is a place of perfection.

Christianity Etc › Re: There Is God O by torchwave: 8:25am On Feb 10, 2015

harbibi:
Two babies were in a mother’s womb. One asked the other: “Do you think there's life after delivery?”

The other answered, “Why, yes, of course. There has got to be something after delivery. Perhaps we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later.”

“Nonsense” said the first. “There is no life after delivery. What kind of life would that be?”

The second replied, “I don’t know, but there will be more light than here. Maybe we will walk with our legs and eat from our mouths. Maybe we will have other senses that we can’t comprehend right now.”

The first snorted, “That is absurd. Walking is impossible. And eating with our mouths? Ridiculous! The umbilical cord supplies nutrition and everything we need. But the umbilical cord is so short. Life after delivery is to be logically excluded.”

The second insisted, “Well I think there is something and maybe it’s different than it is here. Maybe we won’t need this physical cord anymore.”

The first replied, “That's silly. If there is life, then why has no one ever come back from there? Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery there is nothing but darkness and silence and oblivion. It takes us nowhere.”

“Well, I don’t know,” answered the second, “but certainly we will meet Mother and she will take care of us.”

The first laughed “Mother? You actually believe in Mother? That’s moronic. If Mother exists then where is She now?”

The second replied, “She is all around us. We are surrounded by her. We are of Her. It is in Her that we live. Without Her our world would not and could not exist.”

Said the first: “Well I don’t see Her, so it is only logical that She doesn’t exist.”

To which the second responded, “Sometimes, when it's quiet and I focus and really listen, I can perceive Her presence, and I can hear Her loving voice singing over us from above.”

--- written in 2012 by Czech psychiatrist Jirina Prekop MD, who authored Erstgeborene and has co-authored Auf Schatzsuche bei unseren Kindern

Op, nice analogy. Well said.

Christianity Etc › Re: There Is God O by torchwave: 8:21am On Feb 10, 2015

Dannidom:
and for the doubting atheists.

Can u give me any explaination of how the atoms came into existence since u question all trying to know al?

Now you will hear all kinds of hypothetical explanations in support of the existence of life in their thousands of varieties from substance or energy which, though lacks substantial verification or evidence, has been widely accepted as an indisputable fact.

Moreover, it is the same scientific explanation for the existence of the sun, moon, millions of stars, oceans, hills, mountains, the Antarctic, grasses, trees, forests, land...etc etc. Any scientific jargon is more easily accepted than the logical explanation of every intelligent design having an intelligent designer behind it.

My point is...just let it go. It will turn this thread into another field of bloodless war to determine the supremacy of thought.

Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Witch Deliver Herself? by torchwave: 7:52pm On Feb 09, 2015

The answer is a big NO. She can't perform deliverance on herself even if she wanted or even if she has turned Christian.

The reason is simple. It will require a Christian with anointing to be the channel through whom God will break the chains of darkness in the life of that witch. An ordinary Christian wouldn't even be able to do that. It is written anointing breaks the yoke.

However, as a Christian, the former witch is protected by the Spirit of God and she could ward off attacks of the devil using the name of Jesus and the blood of Jesus. Read 'He Came To Set The Captives Free' by Rebecca Brown MD. I highly recommend this book for such person and Christians in general.

But the fact is that she will need a spiritually strong Christian or leader to help bring about her total deliverance.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christians State Your Reason For Believing In GOD by torchwave: 4:57pm On Feb 09, 2015

My brothers and sisters in Christ, it is impossible for the natural mind to understand the things of the spirit. They will despise it, scoff at it, ridicule it, oppose it - anything but believe it.

You will find that the most convincing argument testifying to the existence of God and which also establishes the truth of a spiritual dimension as well as being attested to experentially by thousands and thousands of people from different backgrounds and nations all over the world have little or no effect on the 'open minds' of these folks.

That is because we, brothers and sisters, do not have the power to convince them, to change them, to make them believe. The best we can do is try but it is nothing. Yes we may preach to them or persuade them but it is the duty of the Holy Spirit to convince them, to change them and bring them to the point of receiving Christ.

My point is arguing with them will achieve no miracle of regeneration through repentance. It is enough we have talked to them as Christ commanded us. Having done that we let the Spirit of God do His work. If they continue to resist the Spirit of grace and truth (for He will not strive with man forever), then they have none but themselves to blame for their eternal damnation (hopefully it will not take that to open their eyes).

@5minsmadness, Jman05, Hiswordxray, LadyX, Emusan, Amhappy

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Christianity Etc › Re: Seeking The Face Of God - The Journey by torchwave(op): 9:02pm On Feb 06, 2015

Saintlawr, that I'm sure as sure can be. He will grant the desires of the righteous. I am certain of that so I keep seeking till I find.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christians State Your Reason For Believing In GOD by torchwave: 2:36pm On Feb 06, 2015

do you mean my email attached to my nairaland account? If so I changed it. Will send u a mail as soon as I get the opportunity.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christians State Your Reason For Believing In GOD by torchwave: 2:31pm On Feb 06, 2015

Busybody2:
Oh the joy is actually on your behalf...I was delirious with joy to hear our loving and merciful and kind God heeded your voice and your dream came through, in even better ways than you imagined.

I read about your "September" last year with a lot of trepidation and my heart in my mouth, because my "september" too was ***thumbsdown*** That's why I am really happy you are back and have grown loads spiritually. Congratulations, the Lord is your strength and shield and no good thing would He withhold from you as you place your trust in him. Remain blessed Sirree. Are you still on the SC email?

haha. God has revealed Himself to me many times but not in the respect of seeking Him which I haven't quit doing.

Many may not believe me when I say Jesus has visited me in the dream and talked with me twice. Another time, while praying I was caught up in a vision where He appeared by my side as light and spoke to me. That was the only time He appeared as a bright light in human form but the voice was gentle, peaceful and full of authority and I just 'knew' He was the one.

Last week Thursday and Friday, He visited me yet again. I have seen what He looks like, His brown hair, His smile, the waves of love that radiates from His being, the power and authority about Him and especially His very gentle voice. I am at the point where it is impossible to doubt His existence.

I can't begin to relate to you other times He has visited me nor the time He showed me ALL the great servants He used in the Bible from Adam to John who wrote the book of Revelation. I saw all of them - Abraham, Daniel, King David, Peter the Apostle, Jeremiah, Joshua, Queen Esther, Solomon, Apostle Paul, Isaiah, Zechariah, Luke...etc, all in a gathering...and more.

However, in respect of seeking God, I haven't found Him yet. I know I will. It is but a question of patience. Moreover, when I do, I shall let my brothers and sisters in Christ know so as to encourage them to pursue the same goal.

I am sorry if I caused some misunderstanding. I had to write this so that you'd know the root of my absolute confidence in God's existence.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christians State Your Reason For Believing In GOD by torchwave: 7:21pm On Feb 05, 2015

Busybody2:
This is the confidence we have in approaching God, that if we ask ANYTHING according to His will, He hears us. And if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have what we asked of Him.

Awww, what a mighty God we serve. There is none Holy as our Lord. Ever dependable, ever sure. What a privilege and honour to be able to be counted worthy to worship at His throne of grace.

(((Hugs))) Torchwave, ***wiping away tears of joy*** So so happy to see this...

Truly, He is a mighty mighty God...and the sweetest Father anyone can imagine.

If our Father has used this to touch you, to draw you closer to His heart ever throbbing with infinite love for you, to Him be all the glory and praise. More than that, I'm happy in your joy.

***hugs***

Like you, I have a Calling from God. My prayer is that He helps us fulfill the mission He has entrusted to us. God is our strength.

Most importantly, after our time here on earth is done, it will be joy indescribable to see you in heaven, as well as so many Christian nairalanders I've been blessed to meet.

Now you see why my confidence in God can never fade.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Saw Bishop Oyedepo And Numerous Others In Hell. Jihadists Also In Hell. by torchwave: 6:16am On Feb 05, 2015

Hell is real no doubt, but this so-called revelation is not only spurious but questionable. It reeks of lies.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is God An He, She Or It by torchwave: 5:01pm On Feb 03, 2015

Op, don't be quick to display complete ignorance and laziness in very little matters not even worth an atom of public attention. If you were so eager to satisfy your curiosity, a cursory flip of the Bible passages would have easily answered your question without having to resort to this melodramatic show of seeking information.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It That Self Servicing Is Unbreakable Even With Praya And Fasting? by torchwave: 6:50pm On Feb 02, 2015

Op, that sin you think to be an insurmountable mountain is but a fly in reality.

I have many things to say to you but the most important things you need to know to overcome that habit that has enslaved you are to use the Cross to kill that desire everyday and to ask our Father for grace to overcome sin.

Even the weakest among the children of God is more than a conqueror. You should be the one defeating sin and not the other way round.

Not to boast or anything as I have no power of my own but that is the life I live by the grace and strength of my Father - the life of an overcomer. And so can you.

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Christianity Etc › Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by torchwave: 7:40pm On Jan 30, 2015

SalC:
Lolzzz
Sorry sis I can't help but laugh at the bold. Are you really this soft-hearted?

This is Nairaland! And if you must be here, you have to develop a tough skin or you will find yourself weeping over the to lies heaped on you here even by someone who don't even know what you look like or whom you are.

Shalom

hahahaha. I thought I was the only one who noticed that. She is toooo soft-hearted to be on nairaland. Chai. grin

I can only advise her to ignore the rantings of many folks here on nairaland cos having insults thrown at one for airing one's thoughts is really not unusual...

Christianity Etc › Re: Question For Believers by torchwave: 8:22am On Jan 30, 2015

Dolemite:
He could have still used both methods, using supernatural means once in the while doesn't hinder Evangelists from moving, the book of Revelation was communicated through supernatural means, doesn't make sense to me relying on one method man: a corruptible, weak, slow, inefficient method to spread a message supposedly so important it could save lives, if you had the sure for cancer it would be wicked of you to use door to door method to spread the word, when one internet post can save MILLIONS...see what I mean?

Like I said, God is not a God of confusion. He wouldn't ask us to go into the world to preach His message while He appears to people all over the world to do that. That would have negated His command to preach the Good News, don't you think? It doesn't make sense to me.

Besides, in their days, there was no internet Paul or Peter could use to spread the Gospel all over the world.

Christianity Etc › Re: Question For Believers by torchwave: 8:06am On Jan 30, 2015

Dolemite, your question is not without an answer.

First, you must know God is not a God of random actions. He is a God of order. He does things in their order so that each event comes logically after the other.

Know this, if Christ had planned to appear to people of different nations, He wouldn't have sent His followers to go to every part of the world to preach the Good News, He wouldn't have bothered creating the offices of the Apostle, Evangelist, Prophet, Teacher, or Pastor to preach His Word to all Nations, He wouldn't have sent Peter to go to the house of Cornelius to preach the Gospel to Him, neither would He have sent Philip to preach to the Ethiopian Eunuch. He could have appeared to all of them in person and preached His Gospel to them but He didn't do that because God's plan was to make us ambassadors of Christ on earth as He has granted us the ministry of reconciliation (2 Corinthians 5:18), that is, the task of reaching out to people for Him.

Thus, God does not spread the knowledge of His Word by supernatural means but by natural means according to His wisdom and good pleasure of His will.

Does that answer your question?

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