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kimco: Oh dear that is bad....it was after he became a perfect one that the ONLY attack to work on him was sage mode. It doesn't mean that sage mode cudn't work on him then, it jux became the only attack now. Try try again.

U're most def a learner.

Seems you forgot your original question...you said if sage mode was his weakness then and I'm tryna make you realize it was after he became a perfect jinchuriki that that weakness surfaced..got it..learner?

Baddestguyp: how possible is it to READ AN ANIME?

Oops...my bad...

pickabeau1: U must be the learner..

I'll advice you erase that question before others see it..else you'll dissed outta this thread...better still google that question...

Lemme ask you, do you read the manga? Or you only read the anime?

Whatever your reply, you're a Learner..

kimco: Yeah he was. Who told u that, he entered waaay before that; remember when everyone was on about how they wanted to become hokage, he had those markings on his face when he ws creating an opening for the rest.


U must be talking about the flash back when he entered sage mode later in dat fight. Read it again.

Did you forget that it was after Obito became a perfect jinchuriki and attained Rikudo Sennin's staff that sage attacks started working on him?

Are you a learner too

kimco: Yeah he was. Who told u that, he entered waaay before that; remember when everyone was on about how they wanted to become hokage, he had those markings on his face when he ws creating an opening for the rest.


U must be talking about the flash back when he entered sage mode later in dat fight. Read it again.

Did you forget that it was after Obito became a perfect jinchuriki and attained Rikudo Sennin's staff that sage attacks started working on him?

Are you a learner too?

kimco: So sir i ask u too, which chakra have u seen with all the characteristics of the kyuubi. kishi is telling u to stop treating dem like jux chakra cos they are not yet u refuse. What minato tot at the tym is redundant now cos now we know better, don't we?

Rules- when sealed in the belly of the shinigami the SEALER AND THE SEALEE are engage in a forever battle.

points to note-

Minato is a sealer, kyuubi(half of him) is a sealee. They shud engage in a forever battle.

Conclusionn- they are the same things, u shud try again.

Did I just read see 'redundant'?

When Sarutobie used the jutsu, remember what he said? He said this is the 4th hokage's jutsu which logically makes Minato the master of the jutsu cos he must have thought Sarutobi the jutsu and that makes Sarutobi a learner, now to make things convenient for you, you said Minato's words are redundant cos of what a learner said...#smh#

And Kimco, just calm down and reason this: Sarutobi sealed the souls of human beings while Minato sealed the chakra of a demonic beast, if the Kyuubi had a soul like the humans, that would have been what the death god would have sealed but it doesn't have a soul..

pickabeau1: Is hashi a sage

Are you a learner?

kimco: anoda question- if sage mode is his weakness, then why didn't the first hokage's sage technique work on him? The binder i mean. The one he broke like it was nothing. Is it somehow weaker that rasenshuriken sage mode version?

Honest question tho

Was he in sage mode cos Hashirama entered sage mode when he wanted to go up against Madara..

kimco: Sarutobie even gave us an update on dat saying the sealer and sealee would be engage in a forever battle. Seriously won't u go research on this and stop repeating stuff.

You go re-watch/re-read the Minato part cos that's what we are dealing with, Sarutobi was sealing human souls while minato sealed chakra...they are completely different entities

kimco: Sage mode is older than juubi sealing method. So yh he shud know aba that since he seems to know everything from the past well enuff. However it was a joke...not be taken serious.

Noted...but someone who plans to seal a juubi ought to know..

pickabeau1: Juugo is a member of an old clan

Does he have a friend like Juugo? And even if he knew, how would you know that he doesn't know?

kimco: State one instant where anoda ninja had more than one animal. Except sasuke.

Pain, Ni

kimco: He sealed half a kyuubi. Simple as that. What u called it b4, kishi said it isn't anymore. He says see it as a fellow human.

Minato said the Reaper is gonna seal the kyuubi with him forever...

kimco: Well actually he is all knowing. keep up.

And he didn't know Obito was sealing the Juubi inside himself under his nose?

pickabeau1: All these argument sef..


Senjutsu susanoo is crap

How come madara never knew of it

So now Madara is all knowing? Does he have a friend like juugo?

kimco: In capitals

Wait lemme ask you, did Minato seal a soul or chakra?

kimco: We're talking about blood pact animals nt things u have sealed in scrolls or using ur rinnegan or sharingan to take control of. useless bringing up edo tensei. Don't try to act like u don't know what we're talking about. Try again

Bring me the rule that says a shinobi can't have an agreement with more than one animal and I'll believe you..

kimco: There is the logic that no one has used more than one surmon. Is sasuke better than all the other ninjas?

Obito summoned Kyuubi, you wanna tell me that that is his only summoning? Pain summoned all sorta animals, what does that tell you?
Edo Tensei is a summoning, Shinobis summon weapons..

kimco: Dude what. What are u talking about, he sealed the kyuubi, which was labeled as a mass chakra. He can even talk to it now. if the thing he sealed was jux latent chakra then i would've agreed with u. But the thing is alive. The rule says, the sealer and the sealee engage in a forever battle, the rule stands. Nice spin btw, but that won't do.

okay so he's sharing sage chakra. How did sasuke know it'll work? He didn't even seem to know what it was about. He still didn't really get it after it was explained. if he knew he would've known that juugo had one waay b4. So i wanna know how sasuke knew. I hope my question is clear enuff

I'm not gonna argue the mechanics again cos we both don't know what it entail. But him being able to do that is a convenient powerup...an ''a55 pull''

If that was the case, when the 4 Kages were released, why wasn't Kyuubi's chakra released from within Minato if it was that alive, you can't compare chakra to a soul no matter how alive it is...

Another instance, after they were released by Orochimaru and Hashirama was busy with his tales by moonlight with Sasuke, aint that enough time for him to go into his subconscious and do the needful?

Sasuke's sage susano'o aint a power up, its a combo jutsu cos he needs Juugo around to do it...don't look at things one-sidedly

Is there any law that restricts more than one summoning?

kimco: 1. U shud read the fight between orochimaru and sarutobie again or u cud find it on the net somewhere. When u're sealed, both engage engage in a forever battle dude.

2. Because they aren't the same mechanics. Doing one doesn't mean u can do another. and it's isn't even transfering chakra, it's actually transfering the ability, the technique itself to susanoo. Waaaaay different.


Wait, what exactly did juugo do, now i'm confused.

What Minato did was use the Death god seal as a medium to seal the kyuubi's chakra thereby becoming its jinchuriki, unlike in Sarutobi's case where he sealed human souls, Minato sealed chakra not souls.

Juugo, he shared his chakra..

kimco: 1 U can't compare itachi's sealing tech to the shinigami's tech.

2.It was said that in the belly of the shinigami, the sealer and seal(ee) are engaged in eternal combat. So i'm sorry, u can come again.

3. Juugo transformed his chakra into flesh and healed sasuke, that's why he became little. If it was jux chakra he wouldn't have change and even...let's say it was pure chakra that juugo gave him, what gurantee do u have that sasuke can tranform the sage chakra given to him into flesh and bones. He cud heal but juugo did more than heal him, he replaced his chest area, boes and all. That's different to the wounds that the uzimaki gal healed.

Juugo hasn't and i repeat, hasn't been shown to transfere raw chakra to anyone...why start now. and if u give me the argument of ''abilities improve'' i'll say that it juugo we're talking about, he doesn't train, he's too depressed for that, his normal abilities are hardly even tamed, so much for improvement.

Next...

The Death God seals Kyuubi's chakra into Minato which automatically makes him Jinchuriki, he fights it, he won, took his chakra and sealed it away in his belly....which eternal battle remain again?

We've seen Juugo fight for few and brief periods, during these periods we've seen him transform his chakra to all sorts of things, he transforms his chakra albeit a very large amount to organs which he used to heal Sasuke, so how is it far fetched and convenient that he's able to transfer chakra?

kimco: Based on the fact that in the last arc....abilities have been given out left right and center, and at a convenient tym too. Example, why wud juugo be suddenly be transferring sage chakra to sasuke. Or why wud suddenly, minato have kyuubi mode....things like that.

Juugo was standing in the susano'o, susano'o is pure chakra, Sasuke's chakra is very compatible with Juugo's, it was why he was able to heal him in the fight with against Bee...he added his chakra to susano'o and there you have it..Sennin Susano'o. Minato's soul was sealed doesn't mean he wasn't in existence, taking over Kyuubi is a battle in your subconscious...so he had time and space to do that..remember orochimaru was seeing the world through Anko?

Next?

kimco: I have a question though. Do u remember when orochimaru took his sage chakra from kabuto....doesn't that kindda provide a leg to stand on in respect to orochimaru's sage status

I'll say Orochimaru has attained a level of sagehood, that why he has the linings around his but he doesn't have the body to finalise it, like Jiraiya in a way..

kimco: if i remeber correctly, she was said to have finally activated the technique...i may be wrong. My beef aint that she cud do it, she's tsunade's student after all, she's supposed to achieve that...however the point in tym that it was achieved is oh so convenient. That has been my point all along.

second part...ofcos that's what i'm saying, ihedinobi is actually saying it wouldn't be awkward if she manage to achieve it. My point is it would be vey bad if she did. Cos nothing points to the fact that she shud, atleast not now.

The one that makes Tsunade immortal is completely different from these one we are discussing and i dont believe he activating it is convenient, she did when she needed it the most...

kimco: What! So what u're telling me training itself isn't enuff any more? That what sakura cudn't achieve in training she achieved on the battlefield under immense stress and depleted chakra? Are u kidding me.

Did u not see naruto achieve sage mode b4 he entered the battlefield. Didn't u see sasuke find, albeit a very awkward, way to actually use the technique. So u think saukura who somehow cudn't achieve the delicate ability in training shud be able to do so on the battle field whereeverything is hectic.....ihedinobi is that what u're telling me? like i told u, it's not bad to give sakura the sage mode, actually i was expecting it way back, but it didn't happen when it shud have, but now that it feels convenient to do so, she recieves tsunade's power which probably took much training on tsunade's part to achieve. It jux get handed over to her like dat? And shud, according to u, achieve sage mode as well cos she gt trained by a saanin?

and to answer ur last bit sire, ur point would've been a very gud point if she actually didn't participate in the battle atall. She did as i recall. she went into tsunade mode and was beating the crap out of people. U'd think that if she had sage mode, she'd use it then, but no, she didn't, even nearly got killed, but was saved, AGAIN, by both guys. U think it's right that she receives it now? u sire, are easily pleased, i yearn for that ability too, but, alas, it's not meant to be.
And for the last tym, i don't write stories, don't think i ever will, i jux read gud ones to know what a gud story can be. So please stop asking me to write stories. I dnt need to be a writer to critique a story.

I don't get what this is about, Sakura was said to have been reserving this chakra for over 3years, so its not like she just had the power up during the war. And mind you, she doesn't have that power that makes Tsunade immortal during wars...and why would she be a sage when she didn't undergo the training and even tsunade aint a sage.

Something just hit, we've seen Juugo transform his chakra to all sorts of things, nitro, blade, spear, bones, flesh, organs, etc...would it be hard if he's able to blend it with the susano'o? I mean susano'o is chakra right?

Ihedinobi: Yeah, I'm curious too. That dude fought the Sannin to a standstill, he musta been a piece of work for Nagato.

You guys seem to forget the part where it was said that the dude got complacent and stopped training...he's not the same Hanzo the 3 sannins fought with and even the 3 sannins are arguably not at their peak then...

Ihedinobi: The Curse Seal was Juugo's power, remember? And he used it to revive Sasuke once, remember?

He can share.

You are missing it, he didn't share chakra with Sasuke, he injected them into his system, so now he's doing same to Sasuke's susano'o...the susano'o get organs?

I don't have any ish with Juugo, but this aint really a power up, its more like a collabo-jutsu..my qualm is when did Juugo start sharing nature chakra? And he qasnt giving Sasuke directly, he was giving the Susano'o

Awesome plot hole from Kishi...so Kishi is now telling us that after Itachi removed the seal from Sasuke, there are still traces of it inside his chakra making him a sage like Juugo eh? But how come his body aint showing the tattoos and it is his Susano'o that's showing the tattoo?

kimco: I'm sorry but u're wrong, the idea is to get to ur target in blinding speed and naruto did that. He moved so fast it looked like he teleported. His speed was compared to the yellow flash's technique. Obito is fast, but not yellow flash fast. Sorry.

Minato's only advantage over naruto's speed would be to change targets at that blinding speed cos he can jux teleport to the next target. But when it comes to a single target in focus...according to kishi thru kakashi, they're matched.

Naruto is yet to master his powers unlike Minato and that is key..