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ledafaze: Except if ure a scam abi na who dey impersonate you with Tosyne007? ... Find attached.

Mine is 'tosyn007' without the 'e'...thanks for having me in mind though

ledafaze: Happy Birthday Feraz and Tosyn007

Ehn...you mean my own 'Tosyn007'?

rapmike: Have nt read d chapter yet,seems 2 be more talk,am waiting 4 sasuke 2 do smting
By d way i was tinking abt d akatsuki and i jst realisd dat apart 4rm obito and itachi who luks normal bodywise (neglecting d sharingan of course) d oda members have peculiar bodies. I wil drop my anaylsis later on

Hidan looks normal enough for me

firestar: He learns through his body. Acting on his feet. Shikamaru thought on his feet and came up blank.

Speaking of which, I have this niggling feeling the HQ somehow survived the Bijuu attack...

Not enough flashbacks.

Its not far-fetched but I don't think they did...

Kaycee7: Yeah. If you start asking him jargons lyk "what was the ratio of the chakra distribution" and shyt? Im go dey luk you lyk mumu. The guy is battle-smart.

#GBAM#

Have you guys noticed that when it comes down to boiling point, Naruto is smartest? I mean he thinks up killer idea pretty fast for a sso called 'dumbhead'

i think its gonna bore down to who is smarter...

Kaycee7: Minato has faced a MS user and won. I think thus is a tough call. I'll sleep on it.

The MS user he faced didn't possess a strong genjutsu like Tsukuyomi

rapmike: Nope.

Good, but the fact is I don't know who to go for, Minato might not have faced a sharingan user before which might be his undoing but for him to have become an Hokage, he must some knowledge about how lethal a sharingan is...

Have we ever discussed who a better shinobi is between Itachi and Minato?

Baddestguyp: chei! See as u spoil my parole

sorry bro...thanks for making me dig

Baddestguyp: lie oya post sum of the pages or the site

Here you go....http://narutosaiyan..co.uk/2013/08/naruto-644-manga-page-1.html?m=0

After loading it, scrol down and click 'view web version'

Baddestguyp: ehn, na me draw am swallow ur pride and beg 4 the remaining pages

You want make I fall your hand? I already got the site where you got the manga from..

Baddestguyp: you go beg me tire

hmmmm....I smell foul play, abi na another person draw am

rapmike: How wil dia be an argument,poll or anytin else wen 2 or 3 guys hijack d thread talking abt SOSP and juubi and rinnegan blah,blah. And afta damaging d thread sm1 derails d thread by talking abt samurai jack? *luking seriously pissd off*,i tried 2 bring a poll,bt d SOSP talk quenchd it.

lol sorry

Ihedinobi: Lol. Of course the Younger inherited the Juubi Jinchuuriki's body and physical energy, that's why his bloodline has such an affinity for all kinds of ninjutsu. I don't remember the exact chapter or part of the story and I'll beg your pardon because I have no intention to go looking but that the Senjus are the kings of ninjutsu is a well-acknowledged fact. I think it was in Naruto, not Naruto Shippuden, that Sandaime or somebody else first mentioned it. The two best-known Senjus - Shodaime and Nidaime - are known for their vast arsenal of jutsus, mostly original to them. If they're anything to go by, then you only helped my argument by listing those shinobi you did.

Now tell me why you insist that the Senjus' affinity for all ninjutsu is not the legacy of.the Juubi to them.

Oh..and done forget we both agreed Rikudo had his life force and physical before he became the Juubi's jinchuriki

Ihedinobi: Lol. Of course the Younger inherited the Juubi Jinchuuriki's body and physical energy, that's why his bloodline has such an affinity for all kinds of ninjutsu. I don't remember the exact chapter or part of the story and I'll beg your pardon because I have no intention to go looking but that the Senjus are the kings of ninjutsu is a well-acknowledged fact. I think it was in Naruto, not Naruto Shippuden, that Sandaime or somebody else first mentioned it. The two best-known Senjus - Shodaime and Nidaime - are known for their vast arsenal of jutsus, mostly original to them. If they're anything to go by, then you only helped my argument by listing those shinobi you did.

Now tell me why you insist that the Senjus' affinity for all ninjutsu is not the legacy of.the Juubi to them.

First of all(go down low)[b][quote author=Ihedinobi]...when you say affinity, does that mean that every senju clan perform ninjutsu on all five elements? or what is your definition of 'affinity for all ninjutsu'

Ihedinobi: Lol. Of course the Younger inherited the Juubi Jinchuuriki's body and physical energy, that's why his bloodline has such an affinity for all kinds of ninjutsu. I don't remember the exact chapter or part of the story and I'll beg your pardon because I have no intention to go looking but that the Senjus are the kings of ninjutsu is a well-acknowledged fact. I think it was in Naruto, not Naruto Shippuden, that Sandaime or somebody else first mentioned it. The two best-known Senjus - Shodaime and Nidaime - are known for their vast arsenal of jutsus, mostly original to them. If they're anything to go by, then you only helped my argument by listing those shinobi you did.

Now tell me why you insist that the Senjus' affinity for all ninjutsu is not the legacy of.the Juubi to them.

First of all(go down low)[b]

Ihedinobi: ...when you say affinity, does that mean that every senju clan perform ninjutsu on all five elements? or what is your definition of 'affinity for all ninjutsu'?

Lol. Of course the Younger inherited the Juubi Jinchuuriki's body and physical energy, that's why his bloodline has such an affinity for all kinds of ninjutsu. I don't remember the exact chapter or part of the story and I'll beg your pardon because I have no intention to go looking but that the Senjus are the kings of ninjutsu is a well-acknowledged fact. I think it was in Naruto, not Naruto Shippuden, that Sandaime or somebody else first mentioned it. The two best-known Senjus - Shodaime and Nidaime - are known for their vast arsenal of jutsus, mostly original to them. If they're anything to go by, then you only helped my argument by listing those shinobi you did.

Now tell me why you insist that the Senjus' affinity for all ninjutsu is not the legacy of.the Juubi to them.

First of all(go down low)[/b]

Ihedinobi: Lol. Of course the Younger inherited the Juubi Jinchuuriki's body and physical energy, that's why his bloodline has such an affinity for all kinds of ninjutsu. I don't remember the exact chapter or part of the story and I'll beg your pardon because I have no intention to go looking but that the Senjus are the kings of ninjutsu is a well-acknowledged fact. I think it was in Naruto, not Naruto Shippuden, that Sandaime or somebody else first mentioned it. The two best-known Senjus - Shodaime and Nidaime - are known for their vast arsenal of jutsus, mostly original to them. If they're anything to go by, then you only helped my argument by listing those shinobi you did.

Now tell me why you insist that the Senjus' affinity for all ninjutsu is not the legacy of.the Juubi to them.

First of all(go down low)

Ihedinobi: How does the fact that some shinobi you picked at random can use a lot of jutsus negate my claim that affinity for all kinds of ninjutsu was the Juubi's legacy to the Senjus? How many of those shinobi were naturally disposed to "all kinds of ninjutsu"? How many of them developed new jutsus like the Senjus were prone to do?

affinity for all jutsu aint part of what they inherited from the Rikudo, and by the way, where did you get the 'affinity' claim? cos what he inherited is the sage's body(life force and physical energy), where does affinity for all jutsus come in?

Ihedinobi: Compare these two statements:

1. The Senjus have an affinity for all kinds of jutsu

2. A bunch of shinobi, probably all not Senjus, know a lot of jutsus.

Do these two statements add up to: "affinity for all jutsus is not necessarily the Juubi's legacy"? Feel free to explain how they do if you insist that they do.

Please rephrase..

Is there a curfew here or what?

Ihedinobi: How do these names explain anything?

They have tons of jutsus at their disposal, which means affinity for all kindsa jutsu isn't an eclusive thing like you're trying to point out.

Ihedinobi: Did I say I'd bring more? Feel free to explain why it cannot be.

Jiraiya, Pain, OrOchimaru, Sarutobi, Onoki...

Ihedinobi: Affinity for every kind of jutsu, at least. I'm sure there's more.

While I wait for you to bring up more, I'm gonna have to point out that affinity for all kinsa jutsu can't be classified as a juubi gift

Ihedinobi: Why you come lie now? Where I talk say rinnegan no be kekkei genkai? Dis guy!


It doesn't? You seemed to think that he had always been teaching it. Well, if there was a time when ninjutsu did not exist among human beings, then something must have changed before anyone would start teaching it, no?

Have I said anywhere that human beings did not have chakra before the Old Sennin started teaching them?


Bros, powerful life force is not the same as affinity for all jutsus, that is all we were arguing about and now we agree. True, you need a powerful life force to be able to master all jutsus, but you can have it without an affinity for all jutsus. You can even have an affinity for all jutsus without a powerful life force, just ask Kakashi.

We didn't have a debate about Naruto's senjutsu. Of course he couldn't have mastered Senjutsu without a monstrous lifeforce but Senjutsu is not a justsu, it's a new level of power that you can use to do jutsus. That's all we are concerned with.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, Kakashi is an exception cos he h sharingan which helps him copy jutsus, and how many of those jutsus can he use in a fight? So if the Rikudo already had a strong life force before defeating the juubi, then what power of the juubi did the younger son inherit from Rikudo? Since the elder inherited the juubi's rinnegan albeit in a weaker state?

Ihedinobi: Ok. So when did he start teaching them to mold chakra?


No be you post dis comment: Wetin you de talk again?


Na wa to you o! Does the fact that jutsus are used in sage mode make it a jutsu? It doesn't, simple. Naruto has Senjutsu but he does not have many jutsus. He is a very strong example that destroys your assumption that a powerful life force = affinity for all jutsus.

it was you who claimed Rinnegan aint a kekkei genkai, when he started teaching doesnt matter, what matters is that these people had chakra in them before Rikudo started teaching them to mold ninjutsu, and we all know that kekkei genkai and genkai tota are the combination of 2 or more chakra to form another level of ninjutsu or power. And as for Naruto's case, you can't learn senjutsu if you dont have a strong life force...and I aint saying powerful life force = affinity for all jutsus, but think about it, how will you be able to master all jutsus if you dont have a strong life force to withstand the rigors of training?

Ihedinobi: Since when is a mode the same as a jutsu or technique?

are jutsus not used in sage mode?

Ihedinobi: Which of my questions were you answering with the above?

kekkei genkai didn't exist until Rikudo started teaching them to mold chakra, that Rikudo's Rinnegan aint a kekkei genkai

Ihedinobi: Adjudged by who to have it when?


When did he start the teaching? Who said anything about creating anything?

A rinnegan is a kekkei genkai and anyone who has two or more chakra affinity could at some point develop a kekkei genkai..

Ihedinobi: Nna na wa o! What jutsu is Senjutsu?

Sage mode, or doesn't it come under jutsus?

Ihedinobi: Guys na, if there was no ninjutsu before the old Sennin defeated the Juubi, there were no kekkei genkai. There were no byakugans, no sharingans, no ice whatever (Haku's kekkei genkai), no poison mists, no jintons, no rinnegans...at least in humans. These peculiarities would start to manifest automatically with the unlocked ability to mold chakra, would they not?

Perhaps the byakugan is a bloodline from the Elder son, perhaps it is not. The one thing thag is certain is that it does not have to be anymore than Haku'sclan had to descend from the old Sennin to have a kekkei genkai.

But Rikodo was adjudged to have had a kekkei genkai namely rinnegan. The Rikudo was said to be teaching peopple how to mold chakra and not create them which means this people had chakra in them already and also kekkei genkai as the case may be.

Ihedinobi: What point exactly are you trying to make? I fail to see how affinity for all kinds of jutsu results from having a powerful life force. Naruto has a very powerful life force, how many jutsus have you seen him execute?

yea? How many people have affinity for senjutsu?