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Tell that to some joke-loving Marines!

Melancholy:
Well, sincerely l love the part of you that reawakes our security consciousness! But the thin line there is that, are you for the grant success or otherwise?? An unbending stance from you will be more appreciated, sir.

We can only be talking about success when we have a real grant. Since there is no grant, people are only wasting their time, money, effort etc.

Mark my words, it will end in spectacular failure

Now, even if TELPECON truly has a grant, it can be more than 100, 000 dollars. Which is too small to even satisfy a cluster. No country or organisation will transfer that amount of money (700 billion dollars) just like that. Even real NGOs/aids agencies like Oxfam, Save the children, Red cross, etc. dont even have a budget that big. The yearly revenue of each of India, Brazil, Spain, Norway, Russia (yes!), Canada, Switzerland, South Africa, Turkey, Australia, Sweden, Singapore, South Korea is not up to $700 billion. And many of these countries are developed countries.

TELPECON has no structure, reputation, expertise and it's just a scam.


Why would CBN transfer money to TELPECON to give Nigerians when the same CBN is currently giving Nigerians covid 19 money through banks.

720 billion dollars will ruin the economy beyond repair through inflation. Why would the CBN that is in charge of controlling inflation now release money that will cause inflation?

Check my older posts for more.

Melancholy:
LASTEST AUDIO MESSAGE FROM A FRIEND OF ELOMAMA



AND l QUOTE VERBATIM "l called elomama but never picked up, but later he called back as we talked for a longtime on phone. We discussed some of those things elomama made mention of, in his message shared yesterday. Elomama told me that the money had been withdrawn from CBN to a bank account in the country since last year. See, the actual amount is not even 700billion but 720billion! Let's calm down as our money is intact cos some high profile personality are already involved. Elomama said we should give him now to two weeks as we continue to pray for him. Alert is our birthright".




These are few cogent words l've been able to grasp from that audio.


Is it convincing enough


Hopeful analysts in the house, it's up to you!!!!!

Didn't Elomama himself say he was only waiting for alert from CBN last year?

Was it not supposed to be from CBN to TELPECON to NGO to clusters before? Why this new mystery account?

If truly money has been transferred to a secret account, then the TELEX copy, consultant issue are fake and diversionary? Then Nkanta and co are not to blame. Then the circulating video about Nkanta and co is just to deceive people. It's the secret account move by CBN.

Why would CBN transfer money meant for Nigerians to a secret account? Account with who? To achieve what? Safekeeping? Banks in Nigeria have accounts with CBN. They statutorily keep money with CBN. The CBN maintains the accounts of the FGN.


With all these shenanigans with this grant, why are these so-called foreign donors still quiet? Are they living on Mars?

Why is this mystery account info just coming out now. Worse still, in a private conversation? Why didnt/can't he publicly address his donor (aka beneficiaries) about it? Info as important as this.

Why story upon story upon story?

My response to Elomama's letter to donors (aka beneficiaries)

A) "Restoration can only be done in the presence of a general assembly" Really? Doesnt this look like a delay tactic straight out of Elomama's playbook? General assembly is a larger body than BOT na. But we know, it's all a load of hogwash to buy more time.

B) "I don't have access to TELPECON account". No person with a soupçon of sense is expecting you to be the sole signatory to a corporate account at TELPECON. The account itself is of little or no value since donors(aka beneficiaries) did not directly pay money into it. Whatever is in that account is what you top level scammers decide to put in it from money collected from gullible fellows.

C) " I don't have personal contact with CBN staff." You? A whole president of TELPECON? Yet gullible people still think you have money with CBN. I know some will scream CONSULTANT. Just imagine Subomi Balogun, the doyenne of banking in Nigeria and founder of FCMB, saying I don't have any contacts at CBN because I am no longer the CEO of FCMB. You are even the current president of TELPECON and not one low-level employee and you have been trying to withdraw money from CBN for years now, whether or not a consultant is involved is pretty much immaterial.

D) "I am not a weak leader." Oga you are weak and ignorant of how to access grants. (one part of me says you damn well know there is no money any where.) No country or organisation in its right senses will just transfer that amount of money to you like that, no matter how altruistic your reasons may be. You are not red cross, red crescent, oxfam, save the children, etc. na. And why did it not make international news? And why will CBN transfer money to your amorphous organisation when there are banks to do the disbursement?

E) "Have I done wrong to stand against evil conspiracy?" What evil conspiracy? BS! You promised to deliver on/before December. In fact you were just expecting alert from CBN, according to you. After your spectacular failure, you said "i was given an offer I could not refuse." Now it's a telex copy causing an evil conspiracy? Conspiracy by ur consultant (your co-scammer) to purloin millions/billions of fake grant? Or a telex copy now will block disbursement? I will expose that prof Nkanta soon. He's likely a fake.


Note that Elomama didn't give any serious, official info concerning the state of things. Just the usual empty nonsense.

Melancholy:
More.

***They are simply using this kangaroo reconciliation to buy more time since there is no money anywhere to disburse.

***Elizabeth Praise(mama Ishiba) is now a Dr? Haha! Wonders shall never cease. Fake grant produces fake doctors. . Notice the big titles they all carry.

The fake engr who produced this error-strewn piece should try to let a capable person (an ss1 student will do) proofread it before coming to town with it. Even if he's going to serve people complete bollocks, he should at least do so in presentable English. It will help the ministry. After all, if CBN came out with this kind of error-riddled piece, you people would go for their jugular. And TELPECON can be placed in the same category as CBN since they also talk in billions

***More analysis to come, shortly

Melancholy:
More.

***They are simply using this kangaroo reconciliation to buy more time since there is no money anywhere to disburse.

***Elizabeth Praise(mama Ishiba) is now a Dr? Haha! Wonders shall never cease. Fake grant produces fake doctors. . Notice the big titles they all carry.

The fake engr who produced this error-strewn piece should try to let a capable person (an ss1 student will do) proofread it before coming to town with it. Even if he's going to serve people complete bollocks, he should at least do so in presentable English. It will help the ministry. After all, if CBN came out with this kind of error-riddled piece, you people would go for their jugular. And TELPECON can be placed in the same category as CBN since they also talk in billions

Melancholy:
Shared as received from a public group on telegram.

Make dem do quick cos mesef don tire!

This fake Engr could do with small ms word, or better still, a competent secretary

Busy now, will respond comprehensively later for those ready to see the light

tplayer:
If you truly want grant money, check out Tony Elumelu Foundation Entrepreneurship Programme.

You don't pay money to any bozo

No uneding postponement

No unrealistic money to be shared (i.e no $700 billion )

No cluster chairman, director, coordinator, secretary, and other empty titles you will find in some fake and dubious grants

CBN is not involved

No "security reasons", "from a reliable source", "pls be guided", "voice note", "from the pit of hell" etc

It's real

So, someone took the above-quoted post of mine to Facebook. Check out some of the most egregious responses to it on Facebook:

***Ole Yahoo yahooo scammer their is no such
foundation my ppl it's a Scam at it height

***Criminal, u are here wit ur own, God will release fire
from Heaven on all of u.

***Scammers everywhere

Ignorance is endemic around here. Period!

PMB has so failed that another failure is being considered.

If GEJ falls for this, then southerns were right to vote him out in the first place.

nencounter10:
Yes, I think he should have kept quiet till second term.I don't think he was too ambitious.I think he is not a "skillful" politician.

If he was too ambitious, he would have waited a little longer. Or even allow Aketi finish his second term. He used up a lot of his political capital, am afraid.

nencounter10:
OK. I remember him now. Honestly, I have not followed his political carrer keenly. I was happy when I learnt he was deputy Governor and was unhappy when he lost out. I am not the best person to meet for an analysis of his social or political life. By the way what be was caused the right between him and akeredolu? Do you you by chance know?

Politics happened. Agbo too ambitious but lack the capacity. He should have stayed in PDP and not move to Zenith Labour, or keep quiet till second term starts.

PHijo:
Arogbo right?

He's Apoi

Hardtalk:
@ tplayer; I covet your zeal. Abeg, l just want to appeal to you, leave Melancholy alone. I wished this grant thing has come and gone. This will help us to know ourselves better.

He has really tried to defend TELPECON. He is a good guy. Let him be.

This is not a case of me vs anyone in particular. I have nothing against him. I see his lot strut their stuff all over the place all the time. One impertinent slowpoke with not a jot of common sense will not make me lose my cool.

It's a shame that anyone, especially supposed and intending graduates, could be neck deep in this scam.

nencounter10:
I am sorry, I am not abreast of developments. I don't know who Agbo is.Kindly educate me.

Erstwhile deputy governor of Ondo state

For able-bodied man and women to be expecting manna to fall from heaven in the form of a grant, shows that things have come to a pretty pass around here in virtually every way imaginable.

The least we could do for them is to show them the light. Those who have not sacrificed their senses on the altar of ignorance will take heed.

nencounter10:
To be honest with you, the account about they moving from Bayelsa to Ife and then to their current settlement in ondo state was what I read. According to that account , which I don't clearly remember again, it was a trip to visit oduduwa or so but they never returned back to Bayelsa from that trip.

But the account that I trust more is the one orally passed to me by my father which he got orally from his own parent. In that account Apoi migrated from Bayelsa to thier current settlement in ondo state in search of better fishable water.They found the current settlement suitable for their fishing profession and settled there long long time ago. As you probably know, Ijaws are fishers.

OK. Thanks for you perspective. Away from history, how do you view your man Agbo politically and socially?

nencounter10:
Apois are yorubas because they speak a dialect of yoruba language but are of Ijaw descent. No, they migrated from Bayelsa to Ife and from Ife to the now ondo state. They never returned to Bayelsa .

Please, why did they move from Bayelsa to Ife? They are of Ijaw descent but move to ife, a Yoruba territory? Please explain.

nencounter10:
Ese-odo LGA is strictly for Ijaws. Ijaw-Apoi and Ijaw-Arogbo. the Apois now speak. Yoruba language and bear Yoruba names.

I know because I am from there. I am an Apoi man.

But an Apoi, according to your history, is basically yoruba, since you migrated from Ife to present day Bayelsa, then to present day Ondo state? Am I correct?

If you truly want grant money, check out Tony Elumelu Foundation Entrepreneurship Programme.

You don't pay money to any bozo

No uneding postponement

No unrealistic money to be shared (i.e no $700 billion )

No cluster chairman, director, coordinator, secretary, and other empty titles you will find in some fake and dubious grants

CBN is not involved

No "security reasons", "from a reliable source", "pls be guided", "voice note", "from the pit of hell" etc

It's real

We can't clean up Ogoni(an area that provides us our daily bread) yet we are building a railway line into Niger republic from that same Ogoni money.

Nigeria, I hail thee!

Hardtalk:
Someone said, people should be expecting disbursement anytime next week. Where he got the information from, only him knows.

The usual "next week" vibe

Hardtalk:
indeed, it has lingered too long.

And it will still continue to linger on. My analysis is 2-4 years before it dies out.

Those of them who did SEM should be able to see a pattern :

1). They "fought" Donald of SEM and are now fighting Elomama of TELPECON.

2). They were also looking for documents in SEM;now they are also looking for "telex copy" and others

3)Unending postponements

4)Elomama, who was a major actor in SEM, is a major actor in TELPECON

But they still won't get IT even if it came in a bag marked IT.

Good! Then let's just wait for them to fight each other into extinction.

I have seen many, many loony money-doubling schemes, charades, and ponzis, but this nonsense SEM/TELPECON grant takes the biscuit, in my opinion.

zinosleek:
Right from the onset this thing was brought to my attention, I saw straight through the scam.

As Nigerians, we hold ourselves the duty to be honest with ourselves to grow collectively. We can blame the government as we like, although not giving excuse for any Nigeria government, but we have created a society where quick money, laziness, lack of critical thinking, getting rich by putting people in misery over providing quality services and getting rewards, work smartly, acquiring knowledge and helping one another.

As I said, the problem of Nigeria lies in the collective desire of the people. Our collective disere is to dupe one another, steal, fake promises, kill and destroy to acquire wealth fast. No patience to build and provide services.

We need reorienration.

Respect!

zinosleek:
Exactly. Normally, from what I'm aware of, grants are applied for using proposals which are screened to ensure they meet up with the requirements. Beneficiaries are not qualified just by paying a sum, and not everyone can usually access grants. But this one seems to be open everybody.

Tony Elumelu Foundation comes to mind

Melancholy:
Lolz. ln fact you can call it foolhardy! l know this took you hours to construct! please enjoy ur puerile display of words with underlining statement of frustration! Bye

Oga, I have seen u. I won't allow you drag me down to your level.

Now face front!

alingo2013:
AC milan 0-3 inter milan AC milan lost

Are you an Interista?

zinosleek:
Exactly. Normally, from what I'm aware of, grants are applied for using proposals which are screened to ensure they meet up with the requirements. Beneficiaries are not qualified just by paying a sum, and not everyone can usually access grants. But this one seems to be open everybody.

What's your poison, mate? Well said.

Melancholy:
Since when has our educational system has been bedeviled with all sorts of problems, Mr man, what has been your singular contribution thus far to your alma-mater??, has anything viable ever come from a person like you to ameliorate the sufferings of the disadvantaged in your society let alone your local community?? These are parts of questions you seriously need to ask yourself before trying to berate a chap man whose show of confidence, doggedness and ability to take risk is protruding enough all to see.


As adult, participation in any program is subjected to my own self-evaluation of the process be it favourable or otherwise. l was not coerced before l venture into, so please cut me some slacks! Either the grant is coming or not, l've been able to make myself proud in my little world.

At least my Alma mater can rest assured I am not disgracing them. How well do you know me to say I am not contributing to my Alma mater

So applying for spurious grant is how you plan to help the poor?

If you know what is called risk, you will be investing in shares, bonds, futures, etc., not running around and calling your ignorance-induced activity risk-taking.

Hmmn. "show of confidence and doggedness " you call it? Well the ignorant are also cocksure,anyway.

Of course, you weren't forced into it. And no one can force you to think, either.


You have made yourself proud, so clap for yourself. Money well spent in the University.

Quote for the day:

"A word is enough for the wise, but a fool will require a paragraph"

Melancholy:
Good question! You see as young as l am, know a lot about grant and the reason is not far- fetched cos l am an undergraduate studying course related to it. Telpecon is a form networking to allow for NGOs not to resort to duplication and strengthen their proposal having a lot of database to proof to it donor. Having said this, they've been to surmount any spirit of power greediness, and aside that, a network of NGOs must have a leader, so donor entrusting this grant in his hands shouldn't be a problem, sir.

You claim to know a lot about grants, yet you fail for this ruse?

**You are studying courses related to grants? You deserve a medal for making your school proud.