Obigirl:
Good day everyone,
I woke up this morning to this sad mail from VETASSESS,
NEGATIVE OUTCOME for Agricultural consultant, their reasons:
The task undertaken are not highly relevant to the ANZSCO tasks for the nominated occupation.
The employment described above does not meet minimum requirements for the occupation as
According to ANZSCO, an Agricultural consultant advises farmers, agricultural businesses, rural industries and government on the production, processing and distribution of farm products. Based on provided documents, you were involved in training farmers on the use of herbicides and pesticides, land preparation, seed treatment, packaging and storage; introducing low cost feed technology, assisted group of farmers in getting loan, supervising research team, etc. which are not highly relevant to nominated occupation. the role appeared to be of farm technician with major focus on providing training and supervising the farmers. Therefore, the overall outcome is negative.
A positive assessment of both qualifications and employment is required for a positive Skills Assessment Outcome.
Skills Assessment Outcome: Negative
Based on the evidence provided, the qualifications and/or employment described above do not meet the Skills Assessment requirements of your nominated occupation
Meanwhile, I deed advisory with them which was positive before proceeding with the full assessment,
Am so confused at the moment, don't know what to do .......please my brethren come and help your sister o

Always copy the JD of the occupation u want to nominate, tweak it by changing words and rephrasing sentences. Some key terms are important to them. There are things they want to see.
Like "advising farmers".
Assessment isn't something that can be rushed.
Me, I'd even go online and google "JD of Agricultural consultant" I don't know how soon you can apply again tho but keep all of these in mind.
Sorry about your outcome.

yettyRoot:
For people who have accessed with ACS, got a question as I've been reading that they cut years of experience. I haven't gotten the logic of cutting experience. I have a BSc in computer science and I have exactly 3 years experience as a software engineer(started the job Jan 2015). Luckily, there's a skilled migration code for that. I would like to believe my 3 years experience should not be cut off. I'd love to know why they cut people's experience off?

Basically, they look at these things to cut Year off..
A. Australia degree/ Bsc or highher/ aqf or diploma/ non ICT aqf diploma/ no degree.
B. Whether ur degree is ICT major or ICT MINOR
C. Whether your course is closely related to the occupation you nominate.

All of these factors will determine how many years will be taken off.

If your bsc is a 4 Year course, it will be graded as a an AQF. If it's 5, BSc.
Then it's definitely an ICT major but I can't say about whether it's closely related or not.

So your scenarios are either

A. Bsc-ICT Major -closely related. (2 years deducted)
B. BSc -ICT Major -not closely related (4 years)
C. Aqf diploma -ICT Major- closely related (5years)
D. Aqf diplpma -ICT major - not closely related (6 years)

There's a document on their site, it's called "summary of criteria. It's a a tabular form. Download it to understand better. Easy to read.

udz:


Well why am pointing this is that I have read here someone submitted fake eoi with high points so he can see how ita looks like. This practice has grown and has destabilised the system. It doesn't affect me directly cos I have PR already but I have friends it's affecting. One eoi is OK especially for 189, if one wants to add one state for nomination they can still use the same 189 eoi . Dibp recorded more than 27% unaccepted ita last excercise. These are people's chances and might have kept them in the pool till date. Don't advice a couple to have two eoi for 189. One eoi with Max point is enough.

There's a couple who the husband has been on the queue for months and no ITA because pro rata. Then the wife accessed her own job and submitted eoi and she got invited in weeks.
My point still stands, if a couple can both access different jobs, go ahead. Whatever comes first.
Just remember to delete the other EOI.

Also, someone submitted 189 when Victoria nomination had closed last year so couldn't add them. Added just NSW.
4 months later,July..Vic nomination is opened for IT. Do u really think they will go and edit the 189 to add 190 for vic which means joining the queue from scratch again?
4 months later?

Also What if July comes and the occupation they submitted is taken off the list? As long as the EOI u are submitting isn't just for fun or testing or multiple eoi for same occupation/ same person/same visa..go ahead and submit.

The fact that someone has more options to pick from is nothing unfair. There are even ppl who have positive assessment from more than one occupation.
The only thing to say is, remember to delete when u get ITA for one.

Also, ppl not responding to ITA is sometimes because they are doing Canada and Australia at same time..or 190 clicked b4 189.

udz:


Use one eoi for 189 and 190 . Which ever ita comes first u apply. Simple. Most people say they withdraw but it's not true.

It doesn't work that way sir/ma.
If you are trying to get 190 from more than one state, you might have to submit more than one eoi.

Also, the person and her husband are accessing for separate occupations. Why put all their eggs in one basket when there's no guarantee on occupations and. Cut-off these days?

udz:


Why do u block other people chances use one EOI with highest point for u and ur spouse. Simlple!! !

Lol. How is that blocking other people's chances?
It's like saying when you submit a 189, don't submit a 190. The second EOI is withdrawn immediately u get an invite for the first. So explain again, how is it blocking other people's chances?

Eladua:


@trastar you see why I went with 489.

Makes sense now.

paulooma:
Thanks for your response.

Did it means that the same Occupation will be done on getting there or One can change the Occupation on getting to the country.

You can get there and decide to become a priest.
Nobody is forcing you to do the same job that brought u in..

Dahyur119:

Thanks bro ...I finished from a private university I don't know what my Bsc will be assessed as ?

Most likely AQF for a 4 Year course.
Bsc for a 5 Year course.
This response is applicable to schools like Covenant, Babcock and Co.

I can't say for schools like Lead city and that PU in my state o.

bensky:
Please any response will be appreciated .

How to go about it ? Read page from page 0.
I don't think there's an occupation related to your degree on both list. However, u might find something related to your experience.
Use this link to check for occupation list.
https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2017L00850

Use this one to search for information about occupations you think it's applicable to your work experience. Only one that comes to mind is customer service manager.
It will show u states sponsoring the occupation, what lists it's on. Etc.
https://www.anzscosearch.com

Just register and start your search ..good luck.

stepo707:

Queensland and Tasmania

Wow. Really? @eladua, why didn't you apply for Qsld 190 then?

lakola:
Good day everyone, just wanted to let the house know that I got a positive assessment (Agricultural Scientist) from vetassess as at this morning.
It took 9 weeks and some days, had assessor contact. I want to appreciate @belong for his help, @josh for guiding me through this phase, @koleefem05, @segunwamiri, funbi and everybody that has contributed directly or indirectly. I want to say God bless you all. Love forever

congratulations.

Gr8fulHeart:
@ trastar pls one question. do u advice we do seperate applications. as in me seperate my husband seperate so as to make it faster. or should it be just one person.
@bellong. I replied your question. any further directives? Gracias

If both jobs are on the list and u can afford it, both of u should assess.
If both assessment is positive, submit two separate eoi one with u as principal applicant, one with him as PA. Thereby giving each other extra 5 partner points.

Whoever gets ITA first..�

candycush:
Pls has Anyone assessed with Vetasses or is there any Valuer in the house? Kindly pm so we can rub minds together.

There's a search button above.
Enter "valuer vetassess"
Select travel as topic.
You will see all the people who have assessed as valuer on this thread . Their posts. Their monikers and all the information they shared.
That's a faster way to get information since you have decided not to read the thread as advised.

paulooma:
Dear Senior,

I intend to do my assessment through ACS, I have HND in Electrical/ Electronics Engineering and I wish to combine it with my MCSE Certificate, Will it gained me 15 point on Education and also reduced the number of years to be deducted from work experience.

Need your advise Senior.

You are better off accessing as a hardware Technician with TRA. You will end up with 15 points for education if you go that route.
by the time ACS will reduce ur years of experience, u most likely won't have enough points to even compete with the ppl who have submitted ITA months before u and still waiting with ICT occupations.
Your HND is most likely going to be accessed as "Non ICT major" so definitely more than 6 years will be deducted from your years of experience if you use that..
However, hardware technician is only available on 489 visa.
Search this thread for "hardware technician" "TRA" "eladua". All the information you need to go that route can be found there. Good luck

bollytin:
I greet all my ogas in the house. Happy new year Kudos to all your good works.
Pls I have submitted my assessment with ACS waiting for their response. Pls I want to know how long it takes to reply ones EOI after assessment is out. My score is 60 I'm a computer science graduate with 7 years work experience in IT. Thanks

How did you arrive at 60 points? Chances for getting called with 60 points in ICT occupations is erm, Zero.
There are ppl with 70 points who are still waiting to get called. Also, that 7 years will get reduced by ACS.
Long story short, start looking for how to increase your points. Good luck

bigheadday:
Hello house! Happy New Year to each and every one of you here.
Please I really would love to carry out this process but I don't know if i am qualified with the qualifications and experience I have. Below is my all I have;
I have a BSc in Economics and an awaiting result in MSc economics as well.
I have over 8 years working experience in the financial sector as I currently do financing of my own. Meaning u work for myself now.
I have IELTS from last year exam L6, R6, W7.5, S7.
I am 36 already with two kids.
My wife holds a BSc with little years of working experience.
Please I will appreciate any kind person who could give me a response. If need be i can call the person to get first hand info.

Thanks all. Appreciation.

What exactly do u do as "financing" is quite vague.
What is ur wife's bsc in?

candycush:
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You rock joor. Oshey... Pls one last question must it be my school to send the transcript to them directly or can I upload the copy I have for academic assessment

Depends on the assessment body..if it's Vetassess, your school has to send.

Xkoba:
I'm a medical doctor..as a doctor one needs to pass the licensing exam AMC 1and 2..which are written outside Nigeria and expensive. .though I have guys that have gone through this..for me and many many other doctors , our spouses ll be the primary applicants for PR, our gateway and our visa to aussie..

There's a Medical Administrator and primary health organization manager role. Both accessed by Vetassess. I'm assuming doctors can apply for these occupations or am I wrong?

Gr8fulHeart:

I'm a client service officer. can u give me d link that has other occupation pls. and what next to do?

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2017L00850

That's the list. What next to do is read this entire thread and start the process if your occupation is on the list. Good luck.

stepo707:

Huge sigh of relief.
They gaveexample such as ministry of education...
Wonder who has assessed with TRA here.
Thanks trastar.Always helping out.Hope to be a guru also so I can help others out.
Also can one fill an EOI before TRS is done with the assessment outcome?

No u should not. You only fill an EOI when you have gotten outcome of your assessment and English test. You need the information on your assessment outcome and English test to fill EOI. Except you intend to lie on your eoi.
@eladua has assessed with TRA. I'm also sure they have an FAQ section where all your questions would have been answered

stepo707:
So I was filling the forms for TRA and I noticed a confusing statement that says " completed employer template for each period of employment"

Does the period mean each year or just any period while I was employed with the company?

Also what does name of issuing authority or accrediting authority supposed to be? Say for UI

Period of employment will mean each period u spent with each employer. Period with employer a, period with employer B. Etc. Definitely can't be each year.
.
Erm..issuing authority for ur transcript? Or degree? Shouldn't that be ur school?

candycush:
meanwhile its a 5 year courde

OK. 5 year course is fine then.
You already checked and saw it yourself. Occupation lists comes out every July. So yes, changes will occur in July. It may or may not affect you.

drafo:

Please I need more clarification, as a medical doctor practicing in Nigeria and eyeing migrating to Australia via the PR pathway, is it mandatory to must have passed the Australian licensing exam before starting your process of migrating, more or less is it pre-requisite for applying.
Hav gone through the initial part of the forum's post am a bit confused
Thanks in anticipation of your response. Happy new year 2018
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I dont think you can apply as a medical doctor from Nigeria without writing their board exams. However, i think some doctors have applied with occupations in the medical field that doesn't require u to write an exam. when u get to australia, u can now sit for the exams.
Look through the list, there are several medical occupations, check the assessing body's website for their requirements and see if you are eligible to apply for those without having to write an exam.

Good Luck.

Gr8fulHeart:
hello house. goodevening. I'm a newbie here still reading up though. pls i a have a question . hubby is a doctor and I'm in banking sector. when he checked up eligibility status in d australian home page I dint see d code for my dept only his was among d skilled worker. my question is this should he go ahead and continue d process or what do I need to do? does it mean someone not in engineering or medical field can't apply. pls dont mind
my dumb question. im lost.cc bellong and everyone.

Where did he check for list of occupations? there are several occupations asides medical and engineering.
what do u do in the bank?

candycush:
Hello guys. Hapy Australia PR year to us all. Pls I need some clarifications on the VETASSES assessment. My occupation is part of the General occupations but I need to know how often the occupations are changed s that I d not apply for assessment and it may be removed while awaitin the Assessment feedback.

I read that the occupation list is usually updated 1st July to June 30th. Does this mean that the Valuer Occupation will be there till June 2018 which is the next update time. Guys bikonu help clear. E

what you are asking for is an assurance nobody has. they can make any changes at any time. you have 6 months from now till july. make hay when the sun shines..

however, did you study a 5 year course and what uni did you attend, because that occupation is skill level 1 occupation.

candycush:


Abeg oo make una answer me na������

You haven't gotten a response because no one has the answer to this. I'm sure you already know u can't claim estate manager/valuer with your banking experience.
What you should do is check the requirement for Valuer on the assessing body's website. see their eligibility requirements. Do they need you to have years of experience as a valuer to be eligible or does just a degree in estate management cut it?
It's most likely easier to assess with your degree than assessing with your banking experience. Good luck.

webmaster3:


Sorry I didn't mention this earlier.. I got into uni through DE which clearly shows in my academic transcript 100level was missing and written as DE and I uploaded my OND transcript in computer science to cover for this..

Did they say anything about the OND in your assessment report?
Was it accessed to be equivalent to any degree/diploma?

zanyzara:
I could remember you had direct entry, did you attach your OND transcript as earlier suggested?

Zany.

This explains the issue then.
They probably don't understand direct entry or they ignored/overlooked the OND transcript.
I was going to ask if he did direct entry but felt he would have mentioned it.

Pls let's always include all the information when asking questions here. Helps people to understand and advise better.

Tuteso:
@webmaster3,

Did you add the course outline with your application or just transcript?

Please ensure you send them a lengthy mail on why your 5 year course is not associate degree.

All the best

Do people send course outline for assessment?

Fizzywah:


If it helps I studied Computer Engineering and was assessed by ACS. Got 15 points for education and in my assessment feedback this was the part of the summary by ACS:

Your Bachelor of Technology in Computer Engineering from school has been assessed as comparable to an AQF Bachelor degree with a Major in Computing.

What school?

webmaster3:


How do i get to know Tier 2 universities. I have googled with no good result. Would replying ACS email be productive? i was thinking of going through the appeal route with ACS as 6 years experience was also deducted as well as the associate degree issue and the application was not RPL. Also Note that non of my 8Years+ experience was flagged as non-related to my chosen ANZSCO code.

Can i get your email to discuss further on the steps to take?

If your degree is assessed as an associate degree by ACS, 6 years would be deducted from your years of experience.
You see, all IT occupations except Web administrator is a Skill level one occupation. You need the equivalent of a BSc to be eligible to apply for skill level one occupations. However, if you do not have a Bsc, years of experience will be deducted to make up by ACS.

This is broken down on a document on their site called "summary of criteria".
(Aqf diploma-ICT major-closely related/not closely related= 5/6 years of experience).
No point appealing for the years of experience deduction.

However, Someone on this thread has access to the information on University Rankings and I'm almost certain someone here has asked what TIER Lasu is and he responded with Tier 2. So I agree with u needing to ask what happened with the degree part.

Which is why I am saying respond with a mail to ACS. They will reply and tell you why your degree was accessed as an AQF. It's a faster way to get an explanation. If you aren't satisfied, then appeal..

But they'd always reply your mail..

webmaster3:
Dear All,

Kindly assist. ACS assessed my BSC in Electronics/Computer Engineering LASU (5 Year course) as associate degree major in computing. I thought 5 years courses are always reviewed as Degree and not associate.

Has anyone that has studied this course being assessed by ACS?

5 year courses are accessed as BSc if your Uni is a Tier 2 Uni. I'm not sure what Lasu is, but if you find out its a tier 2 Uni. U can reply the mail that was sent and ask why.