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Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims Rape 9 Year Old Girls And Then Pray To Allah by true2god: 4:07pm On Nov 11, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
In other words, he is their role model. May the Lord deliver and protect our children from the mohammeds.
Fixed.
Christianity Etc › Re: When A Christian Person Claims That Islam Spread By Sword.... by true2god: 8:31am On Nov 11, 2015
RoyalBoutique:
Sorry, my bad. Lemme edit it. Thanks for the enlightenment.
Thanks for editing your post. No honour should\must be given to that pedofile man who called himself allahh's messenger (shitt be upon him).
Christianity Etc › Re: When A Christian Person Claims That Islam Spread By Sword.... by true2god: 7:39am On Nov 11, 2015
RoyalBoutique:
For you to write all this crap means you agree that Islam is spread by sword.

Muslims are the most insecure people on earth.

Always giving excuses to cover up for their atrocities.

Screw you and screw Prophet Muhammad (saw).

Jewman.
Please you are offending the sensibility of Jews and christians by calling mohammed a prophet. He is an arabian slave trader, warload and a womanizer. He is not morality fit to be a church member, let alone a prophet.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Know Islam Is A Dying Ideolgy When Muslims Do This by true2god: 7:28am On Nov 11, 2015
Annunaki:
Can you post the link to it here?
I dont have the direct link but it is easy to search. If you have a functioning youtube installed on your system, just type 'aisha and mohammed-a movie by islam watch' and you will get the video, a 47-minute video on the marriage of the pedofile prophet of islam to a 6-year old aisha (fully verified on hadith and many authentic muslims source were all quoted on the video.

Dowmload, watch and share with your friends. I would have loved to share with you on watapp, but I dont share my phone details on NL.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Know Islam Is A Dying Ideolgy When Muslims Do This by true2god: 8:04pm On Nov 10, 2015
Annunaki:
Ok explain the morality of those quoted verses.
There is a new animated movie titled: Aisha and Mohammed-A movie by 'Islam watch'. You can watch and down-load this new video on youtube (download and watch using tubemate).

Islamic fundamentalist will soon riot and ask this video be removed on youtube, the faster the better.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Know Islam Is A Dying Ideolgy When Muslims Do This by true2god: 7:49pm On Nov 10, 2015
This is a right step in the right direction. After burning the entirely hadith, they should burn the wholly kooran as well and make it illegal. Humanity can longer fold her hands while allahh's terror manuals are used to commit terror in this modern age and time. This is for the interest of muslims and non-muslims alike.

After reading a few passages of the kooran, I discovered that humanity serios sanity problems to have allowed this demonic book to stay in circulations without out-lawing it. How can a 'holy' sanctions oppressing non-muslims, especally christians and Jews (kooran 9:29), sanction child-marriage (kooran 65:4) and sleeping with female captives?

The world must act before we witness a kooranically-inspired holocaust.
Christianity Etc › Re: Remove Islam’s ‘scarlet Letter’ Sex Laws by true2god: 7:26am On Nov 10, 2015
tartar9:
was she married?
Must she die like that?
Islam › Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by true2god: 2:42pm On Nov 09, 2015
aminusanti:
You lack common sense that's my big problem with you...you and truthman2012 are nothing but lost sheep...
my dear khafir friend you are quoting the bible,okay,do you know that this bible is not an authentic book? from the scientific point of view the bible is a man made book which is full of mistakes,contradictions,fabrications and interpolations?how do you trust a book of this quality,if you do not beleive mego and read the preface of RSV,also you can read the footnote written about the long ending of Mark 16 where you can read that such long ending was discovered to be not original!!!!if this is not enough then go and read the four gospels about the claimed crucifixtion and resurrection and try to compose a story about such events conditioned by not ignoring any of the information of the four gospels.i advance you will fail for a simple reason, the four gospels are contradicting.again how to trust a confusing book like the bible?you beleive and I beleive that God is not the author of confusion,to whom then you can attribute the confusing bible?

The Jewish and Christian Scriptures (i.e. the Old and New Testaments) were sent by God Almighty. As such, their origin is Godly. However, over time, the Jews and the Christians corrupted their own books by adding to these texts, deleting whatever they wished, and editing words as they pleased. Allah says:

"But do they not know that Allah knows what they conceal and what they declare? And among them are unlettered ones who do not know the Scripture except in wishful thinking, but they are only assuming. So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah ," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn." (Quran, 2:77-79)

if you can remove hypocrisy from ur heart i can provide you with endless contradicting verses from bible which will tell u it's not the word of GOD.

Islam is concerned with the truth nothing else.
allahh said in quran 6:115, quran 18:27.

And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing.

And recite, [O Muhammad], what has been revealed to you of the Book of your Lord. There is no changer of His words, and never will you find in other than Him a refuge.

In the verses above, allahh re-affirmed that his words cannot be changed or altered. Since allahh recongized the Jews and christians scriptures as his words\works, as the wholly quran confirms, why are muslims lying that the current Jewish and christian scriptures have been altered? Who is lying\confused here, you or allahh?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Left Islam by true2god: 5:41am On Nov 09, 2015
It is a miracle that muslims never see mohammed as the most ruthless person to walk on the surface of the earth. If mohammed had nuclear weapon in his hand, in his days, he will surely use it against all non-muslims (going by his sunnah, the hadith and his bad instructions in the quran).

Religion surely can make someone unconciosly reason\behave in quite an abnormal normal. Anyone who said mohammed was a nice man, with all the contrary evidences in the quran and the hadith, need his mind re-programmed. The invididual will have to go for a psychological counselling and healings.

It is unfortunate that we have over 1billion human race who take mohammed as a normal human being, how many psychologists do we have to re-program their mind-set?
Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim 1:30 by true2god: 12:04pm On Nov 08, 2015
lexiconkabir:
What the hell is wrong with you? didnt you see where the op himself acknowledged his mistake?
Which mistake did he aknowledge? Must you lie on everything? Haven't you heard of sarcastic response before? How do you think an average NL christian cannot distinguish between a quranic verse and an hadith narration?
Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim 1:30 by true2god: 9:23am On Nov 08, 2015
lexiconkabir:
I clearly understood your question, its just that, your question isnt intelligent enough. He thought what he quoted was a Quranic verse which i used that statement in correcting him, then i continued with the thread, simple!
Are you saying the op cannot diffrentiate the quran from the hadith? Besides, you have directly commented on the op where mohammed said he will fight until all man take allahh and god and mohammed his prophet. Is that not forced conversion, conversion under threat?
Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim 1:30 by true2god: 9:19am On Nov 08, 2015
lexiconkabir:
yes! he was right to command the beheading of bani quraytha for act of treason. No sane mind after reading the full context of the story, wouldnt support Muhammad(p) judgement.
Islam\muslims are evil. So you can be so mean and wicked to defend the genocide commited by your prophet against people that opposed him, beheading 900 people and taking their wives and sisters as slaves and sexx slaves? And you want peace on earth?

Again, the excuses you are making for your genocidal prophet is lame and you obviosly get them from a pro-islamic website whuch white-wash the image of mohammed to make his atrocities look acceptable.

These are what your evil and wicked prophet instructed muslims to do.

He asked muslims not to take Jews and christians as friends (quran 5:51)

mohammed asked muslims to cut off the heads of non-muslims (quran 9:5) in his war with 'infidels' and his enemies.

mohammed, the prophet & terrorist of Islam boasted on his death-bed,
“I have been made victorious with TERROR”—Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220

Mohammed asked muslims to expel the jews and the christians from the arabian peninsula. Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4366: “It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.”

Mohammed asked muslims\arabs to kill jews wherever they find them. Ibn Ishaq, Life of Muhammad (Karachi) p.553: …the Apostle of Allah said, “Kill any Jew that falls into your power.”
Bukhari Vol.4 Bk.52 No.176 Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar: Allah’s Apostle said,“You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, ‘O ‘Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)!There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.”

The above are few examples of what makes your prophet a wicked and evil human being not worth obeying and emulating. If muslims were to obey all his commands, people like you would be on the street fighting christians and non-muslims at sight.

I wont be surpised if you say cutting of heads (quran 9:5) means barbing the hair, since fight (quran 9:5) had suddenly become strife.

You must understand islam than the muslim arabs who enslaved your black ancestors.
Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim 1:30 by true2god: 8:47am On Nov 08, 2015
lexiconkabir:
whats this one sayinghuh?
Annunaki quoted an hadith where the islamic prophet said in an hadith:

'Muslim (1:30) - "The Messenger of allahh said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but allahh."

And this is your response:

'Do you think you just quoted a quranic verse? see, what you dont know is bigger than you'.

And I asked you:

'Is hadith no more part of islamic text? Where do you get your instruction to pray 5 times a day'?

So what is it that you cannot understand in our flow of conversation? Are you denying the hadith or it is we that do not understand the hadith? Please clatify.
Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim 1:30 by true2god: 8:17am On Nov 08, 2015
lexiconkabir:
Do you think you just quoted a quranic verse? see, what you dont know is bigger than you.
Is hadith no more part of islamic text? Where do you get your instruction to pray 5 times a day?
Islam › Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by true2god: 8:08am On Nov 08, 2015
aminusanti:
You are still failing to understand that Islam is not a new religion discovered by prophet Mohammad (S.W.A), All the prophets of ALLAH were teaching the same thing which is oneness of GOD=ISLAM. According to Islam, there were many Prophets of God, starting with Adam and ending with Muhammad.

Qur'an (islamic sacred scripture) states that all of those Prophets preached the same monotheistic Message and that every community had a Prophet. Hence, that is why there are similarities between monotheistic faiths and non-monotheistic traditions. The reason they are not 100% the same, according to Qur'an, is that humans have altered the revelations.

Among all the revelations that have reached us from history, according to Qur'an, are: the Bible and the Qur'an. No other revelation has survived. As i mentioned earlier these were things that were there before paganism.They were rituals which were done by Ibrahim (Abraham) and Ishamael . The people of the area followed the religion of Ibrahim through the guidance of Ishmael since he was the prophet of the area.

As time went on and he passed away the people started to stray away from the religion and started introducing foreign things and other gods into their worship. In the end the only thing that was left from the religion of Ibrahim and Ishmael were those few things.


"I won't be surprised if tomorrow the bold is re-translated. Many hadiths have been removed on the internet to protect islam."

Do you mean something like dis:
*2 Samuel 10:18 - David slew 700 and 40,000 horsemen and Shobach the commander.
*1 Chronicles 19:18 - David slew 7000 chariots and 40,000 footmen.

*2 Chronicles 9:25 - Solomon had 4000 stalls for horses and chariots.
*1 Kings 4:26 - Solomon had 40,000 stalls for horses.

*Ezra 2:5[/b] - Arah had 775 sons.
*Nehemiah 7:10[/b] - Arah had 652 sons.

*2 Samuel 24:13 - SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE.
*1 Chronicles 21:11-12 - THREE YEARS OF FAMINE.

*How did Judas die?
*Matthew 27:5 - Hanged himself.
*Acts 1:18 - And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out.

*2 Samuel 6:23 - MICHAL never had a child until she died.
*2 Samuel 21:8 - MICHAL had 5 sons.

*2 Kings 24:8 - Jehoiachin was 18 years old when he began to reign.
*2 Chronicles 36:9 - Jehoiachin was 8 years old when he began to reign.

*1 Kings 16:6-8 - 26th year of the reign of Asa, Baasha reigned over Israel.
*2 Chronicles 16:1 - 36th year of the reign of Asa, Baasha reigned over Israel.


Qur'an 53:19 for you to understand this verse pls kindly read passage completely.... it starts from 19 to 23. That's why i am always telling you even if you have to steal other Islam haters write-ups you should read it well, understand it, and search for the right context..[/color]

The black stone in Mecca was a meteorite that was sent down by Allah Almighty to Prophet Abraham and his son Ishmael, peace be upon both of them, to give the precise location of where the Kaaba was to be built by them. But as the Prophet said in the Hadith above, nothing is Holy about either the Kaaba or the Black Stone. They are not objects of worship. The Bible also mentioned this and prophesied it. While there are traditions about kissing or touching the Stone, its real significance is as marker of the point at which one starts the Tawaaf (circumambulation of the Kaaba as part of hajj or omra.) The Stone is not be worshipped or regarded as anything but a marker unlike Pagan who worship and believe it to be GOD.

We believe that Prophets Abraham and Ishmael built the Kaaba. The black stone is placed in one of the corners of the Kaaba, and it serves as a starting and ending point for the Circumambulation (tawaaf) 7 times around the Kaaba, which is also 100% supported in the Bible's previous Scriptures. We bow down to Allah Almighty only, regardless what's in front of them AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT WORSHIPING THAT OBJECT. The Kaaba is the same thing. We do not bow down to it in worship in any shape or form. We bow down only to Allah Almighty in its direction because it is His Appointed House where He symbolically meets His Servants and True Believers.

According to Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, book of Hajj, chapter 56, H.No. 675. Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) said, "I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet (pbuh) touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you".

All of Islam's Rituals are 100% supported by the previous Scriptures

Read Psalm 138:2
“I will bow down toward your holy temple and will praise your name for your love and your faithfulness, for you have exalted above all things your name and your word”

In the previous Scriptures, all Prophets of GOD Almighty bowed down to Him, the Almighty, in the direction of His Holy Temple or House. It's all over the Bible and outside the Bible.

Psalm 138:2 “I will bow to you in the direction of your Holy Temple.”,

Isaiah 60
6. The multitude of camels shall cover thee, the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah; all they from Sheba shall come: they shall bring gold and incense; and they shall shew forth the praises of the LORD.

7. "All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory".

Isaiah 35.8 "And a highway will be there; it will be called the Way of Holiness; it will be for those who walk on that Way. The unclean will not journey on it; wicked fools will not go about on it"
Few points to notice here:
If this is the case, then this prosperity has got to be Islam! This is further seen in the "Way of Holiness" (Isaiah 35:cool that Arabia will have in it, that no unclean person is allowed to take. This would, without a doubt, then be referring to the Muslims' yearly pilgrimage to Mecca, today.
and read the Qur'anic verse below to see the similarities

"Behold! We gave the site, To Abraham, of the (Sacred) House [That is the Kaaba that he built], (Saying): 'Associate not anything (In worship) with Me; And sanctify My House For those who compass it round, Or stand up, Or bow, or prostrate themselves (Therein in prayer). And proclaim the Pilgrimage among men: they will come to thee on foot and (mounted) on every kind of camel, lean on account of journeys through deep and distant mountain highways; (The Noble Quran, 22:26-27)"

Luke5:33 They said to him, "John's disciples often fast and pray, and so do the disciples of the Pharisees, but yours go on eating and drinking."

Matthew 6:16 "When you fast, do not look somber as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show others they are fasting. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full."
The islamic error no 1, Adam is a prophet. Adam is never a prophet according to the jewish scriptures which allahh asked muslims to seek knowldge from. Quran made a fundamental error by randomly ascribing a prophethood character to whoever is mentioned in the judeo-christian scriptures.

Islamic error no 2, every community (world wide) has a prophet sent to them. Muslims claim every community is sent a prophet at one point or the other. That is the chinese, the Germans, the yorubas, the Igbos, the Japanese, the indians, the koreans etc, were also sent their prophets. The reason for this claim is to legitimize the 'prophethood' of mohammed as a sole arabian prophet. While the quran was quick to include almost all the Jewish prophet into the quran, it also failed to include even a single prophet sent to other communities. This shows that that claim is a lie, from muslim apologetic like Dr zakir naik, and a relogious propaganda.

Islamic error no 3, there is war\violent instructions in the bible so the quran should not be judged by it instructions to kill. Yes there are cases where the Jews were asked to fight their neighbours, in the bible, and were even instructed to kill. But those wars are not religious war for the Jewish to convert their neighbours. It is mostly about political war to gain more territories. And unlike mohammed's eternal instruction, the instruction is not open-ended. Mohammed on the other hand led a battle against pple who disagree with him on religious ground. He even as muslims to fight the christians and Jews (quran 9:29) and never to make them their friends (quran 5:51).

Islamic lies no 4, the black stone is a meteorite sent by allahh. This is a pure lie whose evident could be found no where except the islamic hadiths which many muslims even claimed most are fabricated. The bible did not record any further relationship between ismail and abraham after abraham sent him and his mother, hagar, away. The bible did not identify kabba or any of its prophet visiting kabba. If kabba was so significant and was built by abraham and ismail, why didnt moses, david, solomon, isaiah, jeremiah, john, zachariah, jesus etc, made mention of kabba let alone visit it? Are you saying that those prophets are unaware that such a place of spiritual significance existed and was built by abraham? You know the arabs are lying here.

Islamic lies no 5, that 'precious' bible supported the 7-times circlling of the kabba. What do you mean by 'previous bible scriptures'? In Quran 6:115, allahh specifically said his word CANNOT change, so why did allahh allow the Jews and the christians to 'change' the 'previous' bible? Do you have any proove, aside the hadith, that christians performed the pagan rituals of running around the kabba?

Islamic lies no 6, all islamic rituals are supported by the bible. My questions to you:

1) Is there anywhere the stoning of the devil was mentioned in the bible?

2) Is there anywhere, in the bible, christians and jews were asked to pray 5 times in a day?

3) Is there anywhere, in the bible, christians were asked to face mecca while praying?

4) Is there anywhere allahh was mentioned by any bible prophet while praying?

Islamic lies no 7, ascribing isaiah 35 to saudi arabia. Fya, saudi arabia ranked 5th in the world, among the countries that visit pornographic sites daily. Saudi arabia has the worst human right records on earth. Any citizen that criticize the ruling saudi family will be publicly beheaded. Any saudi citizen that abandon islam will be killed. The shia muslims are daily killed\jailed in saudi arabia. The current ruling family was of saudi arabia was installed in 1932 throught ISIS-styled genocide and bloodshed. Were you born in our planet or from the outer space?

Please park well and re-arrange your islamically-induced lies and propaganda. It is very easy to debunk.
Christianity Etc › Re: Quran Claims its Clear..Why Then Do Muslims claim other muslims Misinterpret It. by true2god: 6:59am On Nov 08, 2015
parisbookaddict:
The Quran emphatically states that it is a clear scripture,

Alif Lam Ra. A Book whose verses are set clear, and then distinguished, from One All-wise, All-aware: S. 11:1

A book that fully and clearly explains everything,
… Shall I seek a judge other than Allah while it is He Who has sent down unto you the Book (The Qur'an), explained in detail… S. 6:114 Hilali-Khan

… And We have sent down on thee the Book making clear everything, and as a guidance and a mercy, and as good tidings to those who surrender. S. 16:89 Arberry


A Book whereof the Verses are explained in detail; A Qur'an in Arabic for people who know S. 41:3 Hilali-Khan



If the quran claims to be true and clear.. they why are there dozens of sects in islam all contradicting themselves with various interpretation from the same quran.. sunni and shites have butchered eachother for 1400 years all because of the unclear nature of a book that claims to be clear.

The quran is a fraud...this is why it claims to be clear and yet for centuries muslims have understood it in different ways with disasterous results..
Yes the quran is so clear, but you need the tasfir, sheiks, imams and islamic 'scholars' to explain it to you. Kill in the quran means hug, it is only tiny minorities that are misterpreting it to mean kill. Fight in the quran (quran 9:29) means shake, the terrorist hijacked islam and are giving it a bad name.

Infidels are going to hell for not accepting mohammed (shitt be upon him) and for misunderstanding the peaceful nature of islam (quran 9:5, quran 9:29, quran 98:6, etc).

allahu rac-bar.
Christianity Etc › Re: Quran Claims its Clear..Why Then Do Muslims claim other muslims Misinterpret It. by true2god: 6:50am On Nov 08, 2015
tartar9:
Sunni/shia difference is not even Quranic based
Please explain the causes of their eternal fight. How many times do sunni pray in a day and how many times do shias pray in a day? Lets start from there.
Christianity Etc › Re: Dr Ben Carson Mentioned The Word Taqqiya by true2god: 11:52am On Nov 07, 2015
tartar9:
yet again they can't do without lying.churchills comment is baseless,in case you don't know which am very sure an ignorant daft! like you obviously dont he made that statement against the sudanist mahdist who where fighting against british imperialism while serving as a soldier.he left his country to invade another man's country they defend themselves and he calls them violent undecided of course you won't find anything wrong with that since you've accepted your slavely status on the hands of the whites just as your bible says.among the first welfare benefits(if not the first) was that of Umar's Caliphate which also extended to you xtian ingrates courtesy of Muhammad(SAW) so I don't see why it pains you that they extend benefits to everyone courtesy secularism,a xtian controlled state would never had done so,that's if they got out of the dark ages to even know what welfare is
Sudan is not the only country colonized. As a matter of fact, the arabs\muslims started colonizing and enslaving people long before the europeans (out of greed and capitalism) enter the colonization business in a larger scale (no thanks to modern technology and transportation system).

Europe colonization is motivated by imperial drive, drive to establish multi-national and exploitative companies in order to maximize profit. The europeans were not following the foot-steps of Jesus. On the order hand muslim slave traders, colonizers and invaders are perfectly following the sunnah of mohammed. Can you see the difference.

Back on churchill and islam, what did churchill said then that is not applicable to modern islam? What is the status of women in islam? Why are muslims always living in ghettos in europe and america hence forming an ethnic block in a foreign land? Why are muslims not law abiding in their host countries, demanding laws to be changed to suit islamic legal systems wherever they have a sizeable population? Why are muslims nations poor, except the oil rich ones? Why do muslim kill apostates, and critics of islam, in saudi arabia, pakistan, iran etc?

These are the summary of the pints raised by churchill which are fundamental to islamic faith till date and not limited to geographical locations.

On the issue of welfare, umar's caliphate give christians welfare? You are a shameless liar. Christians were asked to pay the jizya with willing submission under umar (quran 9:29) till the time of the ottoman empire. Stop this shameless lies bro.
Islam › Re: OMG! How Muhammad And His Jihadits Made Their Wealth by true2god: 9:34am On Nov 07, 2015
ShaheedBinAliyu:
I won't argue with you further.. believe whatever you want to believe.. it's your loss..

www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=111.0

if you like follow that Link, if you like don't.. keep reading lies about Qur'an and islam with fake proofs on anti Islam sites
Dont put your head in the sand by directing me to a pro-islamic website instead of disprooving my facts. You said I'm a shame to the human race (just as mohammed called the jews and christians worst of creatures) without any proof. I said mohammed\allahh supported child-marriage (quran 65:4) and mohammed married aisha when she was 6 (supported by authentic hadith) and you are here denying your own sacred book. What type of human beings are muslims? Complex and liars.

Ok, if you dont agree with bukhari on the age of aisha, why do you agree with him when he said muslims are to pray five times a day, with reference to mohammed's sunnah on the numbers of time muslims must pray in a day. Praying five times in a day can never be found anywhere in the quran, then why are muslims observing it religiosly since it was nowhere adviced in the quran?

If aisha age was not found in the quran but the quran supported marriage to girls who are yet to mensurate, why are you arguing, against islam's own sacred text, that aisha was six when mohammed (at 51) engaged her? It is either you are a deceptive or completely ignorant of islam.

Read bro.
Islam › Re: OMG! How Muhammad And His Jihadits Made Their Wealth by true2god: 8:44am On Nov 07, 2015
ShaheedBinAliyu:
you are a disgrace to human race... why must you lie about everything. Quran 65:4 was talking about divorce in marriage. like I always say..never talk about what you don't understand
You see, if you cannot comprehend a simple passage with less than 150 words, how can you understand that Islam\mohammed is false. Let me quote and simplify the verse for you.

Quran 65:4 (in matter of divorce):
And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women (women who are on menopause)- if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated (women who never mensurated). And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.

The verse is talking about waiting period for divorce women before they can re-marry. My emphasy is on the second category of people, the women that have never mensurated. Quran 65:4 fully aknowledged the fact that some girls (not women because they never mensurated in their life-time) can be divorced. It is only a married person that can be divorced, am I right? So it means allahh\mohammed\islam acknowledge the marriage of prepubescent girls in the quran.

A girl who never mensurated can be between 1-10 years of age, depending on her physical development. It is not static. So if quran acknowledges that a girl who never had her first mensuration can get a divorce (meaning that she was once married or can marry), why are you shamelessly trying to deny Aisha's age with respect to his marriage to mohammed? You are an adult, I dont need to spoon-feed you.

You (as a muslim) are meant to teach me about islam and not the other way round.
Islam › Re: OMG! How Muhammad And His Jihadits Made Their Wealth by true2god: 7:49am On Nov 07, 2015
ShaheedBinAliyu:
are you blind or you can't understand simple English? I said those hadith is fake and it was attributed to them .... true and real hadith can never ever contradict Quran or common sense.
I know your prophet's immoral actions are embarassment to many muslims. You said Aisha was 18-19 when mohammed married her, do you have any proof using the quran or the hadith?
Islam › Re: OMG! How Muhammad And His Jihadits Made Their Wealth by true2god: 7:43am On Nov 07, 2015
ShaheedBinAliyu:
go to the site and read if you want knowledge



concerning hadith.... yeah.. some of the hadith's was written by kufars and munafiks... spreading false sayings and deeds about prophet Muhammad... that's why I told you never to argue about what you don't understand
You are not serios, some hadiths were written by kufar to discredit your prophet? Muslims are very funny without any logical and rational means to defend their religion\prophet. I wont be suprised if you tell me that some verses were also imported into quran to tarnish the image of your prophet because many quranic verses directly abused and cursed the christians and Jews. Quran 98:6 called we christians and Jew (who do not believe in allahh, mohammed and islam) the WORST OF CREATURES while mohammed in quran 3:110 called muslims THE BEST OF PEOPLE. Are these verses 'fabricated' to tarnish the image of your prophet?

Quran 9:29 also commanded muslims to fight christians and Jews (this is an offensive war for not believing in allahh and mohammed and the last day). Is this verse also 'fabricated' to tarnish the image of your prophet?

You see, your quran and your islamic hadith fully exposed mohammed as not only a false prophet, but the worst man ever to set his foot on earth. However our level of reasoning and style of judgment are parallel with respect to apprasing the the moral level of mohammed. We non-muslims are not under any spell not to identify evil, but i am afraid many muslims do not identify evil as one.
Islam › Re: OMG! How Muhammad And His Jihadits Made Their Wealth by true2god: 7:13am On Nov 07, 2015
ShaheedBinAliyu:
like I said... never argue in any discussion you have no knowledge about. hadith is just like bible.. hadith can only be accepted if it's reasonable or doesn't go against Qur'an... tell me what is reasonable in a prophet of God marrying 9 year old girl.. apart from that , Qur'an said to marry a lady who has reach puberty.. has 9 year old girl reach puberty? am talking of then not now..

to read about the true age of ayeesha with proofs.. visit google or go to shah tech arming.
Please let me get your points right, are you saying that Bhukari and Muslim who spend all their life-time compiling the hadiths both made a fundamental error on Aisha's age? Are you saying they lied against your prophet and Aisha, in regards to their ages?

It is note-worthy that saudi arabia islamic authirities, who are the custodian of islamic religion and culture, never deny this hadith as fabricated, but you are denying Sahih Buhari and Sahih Muslim because you see it as unbelievable that mohammed could be so classless as to marrying a girl as young as 6. I bet it, if you argue this hadith, as false, in saudi arabia your head migh be separated from your shoulder.

The quran NEVER specify any age that a woman should marry and the quran 65:4 clearly allow marriage before a child reaches puberty. It is either you are delibertately lying to cover-up for the embarrasment of your prophet or you are ignorant of islamic beliefs and teachings.
Islam › Re: OMG! How Muhammad And His Jihadits Made Their Wealth by true2god: 6:57am On Nov 07, 2015
ShaheedBinAliyu:
ayeesha was around 18-19 before her marriage to prophet was consummated... stop talking about what you don't have knowledge about o Christians
Is there any hadith to support your claim that Aisha was 18-19 when she 'married' profit mohammed. The last time I checked the hadith, Aisha, with her own mouth, said she was 6 when the 'prophet' married her and was 9 when mohammed consummated the marriage.

Stop manufacturing figure from your head, give us a proof either from the quran, the hadith or any reliably documented sunnah, that she was more that 9 when mohammed consumated the marriage.

Or are you saying that Sahih Bhukari is no longer a reliable source of islamic text\information which over 1150 years had been a very reliable source of islamic jurispundence.
Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim: This Guy Is Speaking Something That You Need To Debunk...prove His Lying by true2god: 11:22am On Nov 06, 2015
unphilaz:
watch this video and tell us how false this Mario Joseph is on mohammed,koran, Jesus Christ and Mariam


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjUXd4qW9mg
Please provide the transcript of this video.
Christianity Etc › Re: Dr Ben Carson Mentioned The Word Taqqiya by true2god: 11:17am On Nov 06, 2015
tartar9:
he won't win,quit your dreaming.you are an evil human who wants him to continue with the works of devout xtian bush to sacrifice millions to his bloodthirsty crucified god.
You and your fellow islamist are the evil ones. No muslim nation give citizenship right to non-muslims (or even to fellow muslims) but will come to the west to live on free housing, free food and free medicare which their tyrant islamic leaders cannot provide. 90% of muslim immigrants in the US come here to escape islamically-induced poverty and choas but will want the US to fall to the level of islamic hell-holes worldwide. They try to spread islamic curses world wide.

See what churchill said about islam:

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism (or islam) lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity.

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.

Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”

Sir Winston Churchill (former British prime minster)

Islam is a cursed, anti-progressive and negetive force of nature.
Christianity Etc › Re: Dr Ben Carson Mentioned The Word Taqqiya by true2god: 7:12am On Nov 06, 2015
Kagarko:
Bross apart from that he was given the answers he never expected from American Muslims.




In his recent anti-Muslim crusade, Ben Carson
promoted a disturbing form of religious
segregation, claiming that a Muslim should only
be president if he or she “renounces the tenets of
Islam.”
Sadly, just as racial segregationists long garnered
votes by promoting fear of black Americans,
religious segregationists such as Carson today
garner votes by promoting fear of Muslim
Americans. In fact, Carson’s anti-Muslim
intolerance has advanced his polling numbers and
dramatically increased his campaign fundraising.
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In the process, Dr. Carson has helped promote
and sustain frighteningly high levels of anti-
Muslim sentiment. A recent PPP survey in North
Carolina reported that 72 percent believe a
Muslim should not be allowed to be president of
the United States. Likewise, 40 percent seek to
ban Islam altogether.
Under Dr. Carson’s crusade of religious
segregation, some Americans appear to have
forgotten the First Amendment’s fundamental
religious freedom guarantee, and likewise Article
VI of the Constitution, which forbids religious
tests for any government office. Like his racial
segregationist predecessors, Dr. Carson
demonstrates that the Constitution is suddenly
meaningless when influential politicians use fear
and hate to advance their agenda.
Undeterred from his myopic comments on CNN
and the resulting blowback last week, Carson
advanced his religious segregationist views in a
recent email to his constituents, claiming that
“Under Shariah law, women must be subservient
and people following other religions must be
killed.”
Dr. Carson defends these claims by arguing that
he “hate[s] political correctness. It’s dangerous.”
More dangerous, however, are his patently false
claims about women in Islam, and Islam’s view of
non-Muslims. If Dr. Carson is correct—and
unfortunately his rising poll figures indicate that
enough Americans believe he is correct—then
America’s 3 million Muslims are obliged to make
America’s 170 million women subservient and
likewise kill the nation’s 330 million non-Muslims.
Both concepts are beyond absurd and wholly
unfounded in Islam.
For example, far from Dr. Carson’s claim that in
Islam women are subservient, Islam gave women
equal rights in 610 that our own United States
haven’t given even in 2015. To this day America
has not passed the Equal Rights Amendment.
Meanwhile the Quran 33:36 emphatically declares
the equality of men and women:
“Surely, men who submit themselves to God
and women who submit themselves to Him…
God has prepared for all of them forgiveness
and a great reward.”
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Carson’s parents divorced when he was 8—a right
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secular or religious scholars, the right to inherit,
or to run a business—all in the 7th century.
Ayesha, wife of Muhammad, is recognized as one
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Meanwhile, American women finally earn legal
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Prophet Muhammad repeatedly declared, “It is
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Dr. Carson’s second claim, that Shariah requires
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While extremists have no doubt attempted to
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segregationist views, Dr. Carson risks a future
where our children remember him in disdain for
his religious segregationist views.
America was founded on the ideal of religious
pluralism, not religious segregation. It doesn’t
take a neurosurgeon to realize this fact.
Actually, I take that back.
Qasim Rashid, Esq. is the national spokesperson
for the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community USA and
Visiting Fellow at Harvard University’s Prince al-
Waleed bin Talal School of Islamic Studies.
Your cut and paste will not help. Muslims had made it clear that they are coming to america to instal sharia and they are not hiding it. The recent poll conducted shows that 50% of american muslims (over 90% first generation immigrant) want sharia law in the US. Why must you trust a snake so much that you have to leave it with your child?

Let me ask you a question, do you accept ahmadiyyas as muslims?
Christianity Etc › Re: Dr Ben Carson Mentioned The Word Taqqiya by true2god: 7:03am On Nov 06, 2015
Islam and evil and hypocrisy are not separable. Can a christian become the president of iran, iraq, saudi arabia, iran, uae, qatar, egypt, pakistan, sudan, algeria, morroco, yemen, etc. The answer is NO. Why? These are islamic countries who hate christianity with passion and are ready to destroy her completely given any opportunity. If muslims cannot allow a muslim leader in their muslim dominated countries, why do they want to become a president in the US where 90% of american muslims are migrants from muslim countries where christians can never be president.

I wont blame muslims but atheist and idiotic liberal western leaders who are aggresivly promoting homosexuality, trans-gender, wars, capitalism and islam while at the same time demonize christianity always. Turkey was once a christian country until it was over-run by uncompromising and aggresive muslim invaders who changed the face, culture and religion of turkey till date.

Islam\mohammed\allahh is a mortal enemy to the west and christianity\Jews. Muslims had made several futile attempts are militarily conquering continental europe but always failed but has now devised a new, complex and effectve method, MIGRATION or HIJRA (in arabic) to the western world. Where this will lead to know one knows, but two things are sure, it is either europe become a muslim continent in 50-70 years time or all muslims deported and mosques demolished. The spanish did it, deported all muslims and mosques destroyed.

History has a way of repeating itself. The greedy western leaders will not listen to voice of reason on islamic threat while the uncompromising arab muslims will always raise their bar in their quest for global cultural and religios conquest.
Christianity Etc › Re: Dr Ben Carson Mentioned The Word Taqqiya by true2god: 9:50pm On Nov 05, 2015
tartar9:
that's why he will never win
Muslims getting more popular on international stage. How do u know he will never will? Are you an american or a yoruba?

Islamic altaqiyya should be included in english dictionary for the whole world to learn more about islamic lies and deceit.
Islam › Re: OMG! How Muhammad And His Jihadits Made Their Wealth by true2god: 9:13am On Nov 05, 2015
ShaheedBinAliyu:
Laughing in swahili.... Wahala wa o .. OP hates islam to the extent that he can't even understand anything about islam. I feel pity for you dude. You don't need to hate anything but to underdstand. Sit down, calm down, then read what you posted with open mind then you will understand that you are extremely outta truth path.. Will be glad to welcome you to islam
Pick the points I raised against your prophet and refute them one by one. Stop putting your head in the sand, the quran and the hadith contain all the evidence against your prophet. I am not the one that compiled the quran and the hadith.
Islam › Re: OMG! How Muhammad And His Jihadits Made Their Wealth by true2god: 8:42am On Nov 05, 2015
truthman2012:
Is jizya the only source Muhammad's wealth?

He said his wealth comes from spears and conquests.

A man who lived by killing others, yet the lying allah said he is the best of mankind. Irony!
A snap look at the history of the arabs, their economy and geography indicated that, geograhically, the arab desert is the most difficult place for human survival. The arabs, during the time of mohammed, were actively engaged in robbery along the desert trading route, slave trade (long before the europeans joined) and petty stealing (as a means of survival).

The desert vegetation is not suitable for farming hence food scarcity in the religion. So when islam was born, courtesy profit mohammed (shitt be upon him), all the criminal activities of the arabs were now religiosly and spiritually sanctioned by allahh.

Mohammed (shitt be upon him) did not abolish robbery, slave trade and stealing, he only modified it with religious sanctionings by invoking allahh in all his criminal activities. If you are a non-muslim in a muslim\arab land, your wealth and properties (including daughters) are fair games. All these facts are in the quran and the hadith.

Lets take a critical look at some quranic verses, and hadiths, to see if I am slandering islam or telling the truth.

1) Payment of jizya (quran 9:29). Jizya is a religios tax imposed on only the christian and the jews for not accepting islam. It is payment imposed on the christians in order humble, shame and humiliate them (quran 9:29). The purpose of jizya was CREARLY written in the wholly quran (to disgrace and humble christians and Jews). Technically, the tax (jizya) is a form of robbery against non-muslims because, unlike zakat, jizya is unconditionally compulsory and any default in payment can lead to the defaulter being enslaved, jailed or killed by the muslim master\govt. This discriminatory taxing policy was practiced as late as the late 18th century by the othoman empire. It was cancelled by the colonial powers after the weakning of the turks and the european colonization of the arab world.

2) The sharing of war booty. In quran 8:41, allahh asked mohammed to take 20% of war booty for himself, relative and children who were orphaned as a result of war against the non-muslims. Sahih Bhukari book 53, hadith 351, it was narrated by jabir bin abdullah: allah's apostle said 'booty has been made legal for me'. Hadiths (book no 7, 331; book no 2, 35; book no 8, 367 etc) all confirmed that allahh suppored mohammed's looting during war and sharing of booties of war. It is a good business because mohammed lose few men to make big wealth via looting and enslavement of defeated people.

3) Another way mohammed made his money\wealth is through slave trave and using prisoners of war for labour. Quran (33:50, 23: 5-6, 4:24, 8:69, 2:178, 16:75 etc) all approve slavery and sleeping with female slaves whose husbands, father and brothers might have been killed by mohammed's armies. These slaves are also put into work for the benefit of the muslim ummah. Mohammed also sell slaves for cash (sahih bhukari 34:351)

So mohammed's economic activities has nothing to do with innovations, producyivity, distribution of goods and services or even buying and selling. It is all about raiding 'infidels', looting their properties as war booty, marrying their women (whose husbands were killed by muslim armies) and imposition of jizya on surviving non-muslims.

And all these evil activities are approved by allahh while mohammed, according to muslims, is a 'mercy to mankind'. What an evil an insane psychology!
Christianity Etc › Re: Muhammed And The Flying Horse by true2god: 10:18am On Oct 28, 2015
johnydon22:
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Many of us here are very familiar with flying animals in antiquity or animals depicted to possess wings like birds.

The most popular of these stories is the story of Pegasus the flying Horse of Perseus son of the God Zeus in classical Greek antiquity.

we have all seen the movie depictions and many of us here won't deny having fantasized about riding such animal grin that has nothing to show that is not anymore than mere mythological fictional work of antiquity.

https://www.drawingsomeone.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Pegasus-Drawing-6-540x380.jpg

We also have the winged bulls of Babylonian mythology and then remarkably one so near is the tale of Muhammed (Founder of Islam) riding similar animal.

I am intrigued at this claim of Muhammed riding something similar to a flying horse named Buraq.


Then a white animal which was smaller than a mule and bigger than a donkey was brought to me. ... The animal's step (was so wide that it) reached the farthest point within the reach of the animal's sight.

— Muhammad al-Bukhari , Sahih al-Bukhari



Then he [Gabriel] brought the Buraq, handsome-faced and bridled, a tall, white beast, bigger than the donkey but smaller than the mule. He could place his hooves at the farthest boundary of his gaze. He had long ears. Whenever he faced a mountain his hind legs would extend, and whenever he went downhill his front legs
would extend. He had two wings on his thighs which lent strength to his legs.

He bucked when Muhammad came to mount him. The angel Jibril (Gabriel ) put his hand on his mane and said: "Are you not ashamed, O Buraq? By Allah , no-one has ridden you in all creation more dear to Allah than he is." Hearing this he was so ashamed that he sweated until he became soaked, and he stood still so that the Prophet mounted him


According to these narratives God through Gabriel gave Muhammed one of his flying horse-like animals to ride to Jerusalem. . And muhammed was the ever first to ride such.

I find it intriguing that the classical story of Perseus which predates muhammed story by thousands of years. God (zeus) also gave Perseus a flying horse named Pegasus and Perseus became the only person to have ridden such.

These two stories quite similar in their claim of flying horse-like animals being ridden, what fascinates me is that people actually believe Muhammed really rode such an animal even though such has never been substantiated to be anymore than fictious mythical construct.

It reveals the dishonesty in Faith... Someone could believe such unsubstantiated outrageous assertion by faith against all reason.

A Muslim would laugh at anyone who asserts Perseus rode a flying horse but Muhammed rode one? then it is true .. "God is great" …lol.. grin..

Imagine the absurdity in such belief. . . If one honestly believe someone rode a flying horse then why cant that person believe Perseus did or the dishonesty in belief stipulates one should cherry pick which myth to believe?

That's why i always say: "If something needs to be believed against reason by faith then there is no reason to believe it at all..."

Our muslim brothers, Do you honestly believe Muhammed rode a flying horse, if yes can you provide us independent empirical substantiation to back up your claim...??
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You are an infidel, how dare you mock\question our beloveth prophet mohammed (shitt be upon him)? In my religion the wholly prophet said, 'there is no compulsion in religion' and he also said 'you have your religion and I have mine'. So why bother yourselve with my religion you kafir.

He flew on a horse to aljannah because you infidels are yet to manugacture aircraft then. Besides he has no need of visa to meet allahh in aljannah. What is your stress?

Our beloveth prophet is in aljannah enjoying his share of clean virgins having serves allahh very well. Whether you infidels like it, or not, you can never stop the spread of my religion around the world, islam is the fastest growing religion. And very soon all human being will be muslims and whoever refuses to accept allahh and his messenger (shitt be upon him), will die or pay the jizya (quran 9:29).

allahu snacks-bar.

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