₦airaland Forum

tartar9:
" He was forced to divorce her because Muhammad was attracted by her beauty after seeing her unclothed" lmao do you think everyone is as ignorant as you,or you think you can accuse the Holy Prophet(SAW) the same way your lying bible accuses David (AS).first of all that your story is as false as your god.the Holy Prophet(SAW) proposed their marriage in the first place(this was after he became a Prophet not the other lie you said that it happened before he became Prophet).Zaid was a former slave and Zainab was of a noble heritage,this was actually the main reason why He(SAW) proposed the marriage "The Prophet was well
aware that it is a person’s standing in the eyes of
Allah that is important, rather than his or her
status in the eyes of the people... their marriage
would demonstrate that it was not who their
ancestors were or social status,but rather their standing in the
sight of Allah, that mattered." Zainab still didn't like the marriage to Zaid right from the onset because of this distinct social background of she coming from a noble family and Zaid being a former slave but she married him still out of respect to the Holy Prophet Muhammad,so problems was due to develop in their marriage which made Zaid consider divorce,and for your information he consulted with the Holy Prophet(SAW) and He(SAW) adviced him NOT to divorce her and bear with patience with her "Keep your wife to yourself, and fear Allah." this finally seals and nullifies your baseless claims.and also Zaid was faithful to the end and died as a matyr ( may Allah[SA] be pleased with him)

Islamic cult system, the characteristics:

1. There is blind devotion to a supreme leader (mohammed). No questioning of the moral behavior of that leader can be tolerated (like marrying a six year old child). Whatever he does (or did) is considered good and moral. Questioning the leader’s moral behavior incurs dire consequences to the questioner (atimes death).

2. There is a clear conceptual separation between “us” and “the others” among the members of the belief system. Words to describe “us” (believer and kafir). Members are encouraged to wear attire that advertises very strongly the fact that they are members (hijab and burqa).

3. There is the practice that every newborn baby belongs to the belief system by default. Children must be educated according to the customs and beliefs of the system, so that they behave like other members when they grow up.

4. Leaving the belief system incurs serious penalties to anyone who attempts it (apostasy in Islam is death). Penalties may range from death to excommunication from the society (losing all one’s friends and acquaintances, having no one to socialize with).

The answers to these questions as they relate to Islam are undeniable…hence Islam is the world's largest cult.

No more shame and concious in Islam as long as it is for the defense of the pervert prophet mohammed (shitt be upon him). It is shocking that anyone will defend a man of 51 who fall in love with a girl of six years. It is a shame for anyman to defend an individual who see nothing in a man taking his adopted son's wife because an arabian god allahh asked him to do so.

Shame on all who call evil of mohamed a good deed. Shame on them all.

EzioAuditore:
If you are too lazy to read then you have no business talking to me.

I never expected you to direct me to any link. If however you googled a site, you are to give a brief about it.

One questions muslims have failed to answer was whether, or not, mohammed's father was muslim or a pagan arab. The name abdullai (slave of allahh) alone is a hint to the pre-Islamic deity of allahh, among the pagan arabs. Muslims should educate us the religion of mohammed's father.

EzioAuditore:
http://www.gsalam.net/all-you-need-to-know-about-adoption-in-islam/

Please summarize in bullets points for better understanding.

RoyPCain:
@truthman2012
@true2god
if the 2 of you could have been true to the True God you would have recognized the truth long time before 2012. but man deceiving himself making 3 out of 1 God as if He must change and making 1 God become 3 Who HE said He is has created for himself a pathway of satan. definitely satan will lead to hell fire and not to paradise.


neither one of you men will marry women that you know do not fit to be wife material. wife material includes at least beauty, wealth, family lineage, personal achievement and for me faith in the way is the number 1.

for women, husband material include all of the above as well. everyone wants to marry up. no princess wants to marry a slave of the palace or another palace. the people that will be considered will definitely be princes of equal kingdom at least close to it and the nobility, definitely no slave even if he whatever. this may be part reasons osu people still do not have serious footing in igbo culture because those who see them as nothing will not even accept food for them when the sowanbe style felicity is taking place.


about zaynab bint johsh [ra], who was a first cousin of the prophet [sa] of bani hashim of quraish tribe in makka, knew that zayd bin haritha, in spite of being called bin Muhammad [sa] was not a blood, and definitely was a foreigner made citizen. being naturalized will not make you have a new blood now and your attitude may change, your look will remain as it was from the beginning and you can't be made head of the clan.


it took a while for zaynab [ra] to accept the proposal to marry zayd [ra] who was married to a slave that helped to raise the prophet [SA]. it is rare for a gorgeous ph.d holder from a first class family to be seen romantically involved with a handy man, truck driver, laborer and goes about with him , flaunting the union. in spite of it being legal, the man in this case is just a man in the relationship by anatomy and truly the man is the successful wife who will treat him like house help outside the event that happens on the bed. and a woman of that stature may even dictate how what happens goes.


many of this events happen in cold countries in winter where the lonely just do something like that coasting the man by much distance between them and letting him in by the front door kept open and he goes in when not many people are looking. docking in you will say.


some women have 'much mouth' in this type of relationship and some men, though few % will want out. Zaynab [RA] was that type of women and Zayd [RA] must have benefited in the liberation to freeman based on the 'adoption', which i will say coupled with Islam in his [RA] wanted out because in madina, there was a man whose wife upon regaining her freedom from slavery divorced the husband who resorted to walking behind her crying and begging her to take him back. even when the prophet [SA] intervened with the wife, she asked are you asking me because as a prophet it is command from you upon me? the prophet [SA] said no but as muslims with intention that you take your husband back and make him happy. the woman said since it is not a prophetic command, i have no need of him.


if after Zaynab [RA] frustrated Zayd [RA] and led to the talaq, was she supposed not to get married, ever, when she was not a christian where your rules are devoid of any sign of mercy, a chance to try again? in the 10 years of hijra and years of the 4 kalifas [RA] it is not reported that any divorced woman did not have a suitor after her after the iddah period. why would expect the prophet not to carry the command of God, considering the fact that it says in the Quran why should you be concern about men will say instead of fearing Allah? at the end of the day, including the abrogation of adoptive process where the natural rights of child are lost to the make belief rights of the new family, we see justice and mercy in play; woman does not have to stick with what she does not want and the man does not have to let anyone take away his manhood. woman can always have a husband in spite of the many failed prior marriages. the community protects both its male and female and does not allow what is natural not to be experienced.


my final thought is that I am grateful to Allah Who raised up Muhammad [SA] for me and those who take God to be 1, Unseen and Perfect in every manner, the rest are creations, from the man, many prophets a nd each fitting the time of there message forward until the next prophet [AS] takes over the shift. the shift of Muhammad [SA] will be till end of time. i am grateful that i am within that shift and i accept him [SA] as prophet sent to all at last.

You always write long epistle without making sense. Make your points brief and concise.

EzioAuditore:
Yes it is, but there are conditions.

What are the conditions?

EzioAuditore:
Like I said before, you are an ignorant bellend! Tell me how or when or where islam forbids adoption! Fool!* and who told you almajiris don't have fathers? And who told you it is part of Islam? you are an ignorant fool*, whose mind was been impregnated by a pastor with lies and madness.

Is adoption still permitted in Islam, yes or no?

EzioAuditore:
You are a bellend I'm sure this is not the first time you've heard that. Rich and coming from a powerful and respected family is the same thing to you right? A woman marrying someone because of his sincerity and a woman getting married to an arranged person is the same right? Do you know the family Muhammad comes from? Was Muhammad a slave? Are all women the same? These are questions a sane person would ask, but like I said, you're a knobhead and like the Quran says, you're deaf dumb and blind.

You are not making sense at all. Your attempt at defending mohammed's action only exposes the evil in Islam the more.

So because Zayd was a slave he should marry his feloow slave? So because mohammed was not a slave hence he has better right to Zainab than Zayd? How about some of the slaves mohamed married, are they also in the same social status? So a slave, according to islam, has no right to marry a free woman?

Can you see how unreasonable the points you try to raise in order to justify mohammed's lust for Zayd's wife? While I believe that you are a rational and intelligent human being, the negetive effect of Islam had taken (and is still taking) a heavy toll on the logical reasonings of many muslims.

Though many muslims have been programmed to see no wrong of their prophet, but we non-muslims will not fail to point out the wrongs and the evil deeds of mohammed.

EzioAuditore:
You have no point here mate! Did you not see the part where I told you about Zayd telling the prophet of his intention to divorce her? Here's a summary of the events, enough to satisfy everyone with a brain, but of course


Some of the Prophet's marriages were for legislative reasons and to abolish certain corrupt traditions. Such was his marriage to Zaynab, divorcee of the freed slave Zayd. Before Islam, the Arabs did not allow divorcees to remarry. Zayd was adopted by the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) and called his son as was the custom among the Arabs before Islam. But Islam abrogated this custom and disapproved of its practice. Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was the first man to express this disapproval in a practical way. So he married the divorcee of his "adopted" son to show that adoption does not really make the adopted child a real son of the adopting father and also to show that marriage is lawful for divorcees. Incidentally, this very Zaynab was Muhammad's cousin, and had been offered to him in marriage before she married Zayd. He refused her then, but after she was divorced he accepted her for the two legislative purposes: the lawful marriage of divorcees and the real status of adopted children. The story of this Zaynab has been associated in some minds with ridiculous fabrications regarding the moral integrity of Muhammad. These vicious fabrications are not even worth considering here (see Qur'an, 33: 36, 37, 40).

"God has not made for any man two hearts in his (one) body: nor has He made your wives whom ye divorce by Zihar your mothers: nor has He made your adopted sons your sons. Such is (only) your (manner of) speech by your mouths. But God tells (you) the Truth, and He shows the (right) Way. (The Noble Quran, 33:4)"

This is one of the reasons why Islam is dangerous and evil, that is moahmmed abolishment of adoption because of his taking his adopted son's wife. The following are the basic reasons of adoption:

1) A mad woman who mysteriously get pregnant, without an husband, the child that is born under that circumstances has right to be adopted by foster parents who can take good care of him or her.

2) A child who lost his or her parents while still too young to take care of him\herself can be adopted.

3) Parents who do not have financial resources to cater for their children can give out one or two for adoption (especially if the family is large and poor).

4) In a war scenario, parents are always separated from their children, so in that case the best option for separated children is adoption. Currently their are many muslims in europe being adopted as a result of wars going on in some muslim countries.

5) In a situation whereby the parents are not psychologically fit to raise children, the best is for the children to be properly taken care-of by foster parents who are mentally and psychological fit for that role. In some homes where there are physically abusive, the life of the child(ren) can be endangered.

So your attempt to nulify adoption, because your prophet married his adopted son's wife hence muslims no longer accept adoption, is evil and very bad. Modern and progressive societies understand the benefilts of adoptions to maintain social order.

Here in Nigeria the area with the highest number of destitutes and 'almajiris' is the muslim north. The simple reason is that wealthy muslims would rather leave the poor destitutes on the street, intead of adopting and educating them. If they do that, they will be going against mohammed and allahh.

All that Islam stands for is evil and backwardness as a result of the action of one man with psychiatric disorder who take actions for personal interest and always use allahh as an excuse for all evil. You know that man I am talking about, his name is mohammed.

EzioAuditore:
Smh! Do you know who married Zaynab to Zayd in the first place? It was Muhammad (pbuh) who orchestrated the marriage, zaynab was from a powerful family, this was done in other to raise the status of slaves(Zayd was a slave that was adopted by Muhammad) in Arabia, but after the marriage, it was clear that zaynab felt superior to Zayd, and eventually they separated. That's when Muhammad got married to her, now tell me, are you saying it's forbidden to Marty divorcees? Because most of Muhammads wives were divorcees who couldn't fend for themselves, or are you saying Muhammad showed interest in her while she was married to Zayd? That's a blatant lie!

Behold! Thou didst say to one who had received the grace of Allah and thy favour: "Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and fear Allah." But thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest: thou didst fear the people, but it is more fitting that thou shouldst fear Allah. Then when Zaid had dissolved (his marriage) with her, with the necessary (formality), We joined her in marriage to thee: in order that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the Believers in (the matter of) marriage with the wives of their adopted sons, when the latter have dissolved with the necessary (formality) (their marriage) with them. And Allah's command must be fulfilled.

Go and tell whoever is feeding you these lies to try harder.

Go tell that to your fellow Islamists. Mohammed was very poor when Khadija, a very wealthy business woman, married him. The social and economics status of Khadija, by your own logic, is higher than that of mohammed and hence khadija had no right marrying your prophet in the first place.

So if khadija, of better higher status, can marry mohammed, why can't Zayd marry Zainab? The fact is that your prophet lusted after her and decided to marry her. Zayd, being an adopted slave, has no say in all the transactions.

Stop defending the obvious evils of your prophet.

truthman2012:
Moses and Jesus did not worship allahh. They worshiped Yahweh as allahh was not known in Israel at that time.

Moses and Jesus did not visit Kaaba because it was the house of arabian idols. If it was truly built by Abraham as the house of God for ALL MANKIND, why wouldn't Moses and Jesus talk about it? It is lie of the Devil.

You may not believe this but it is the truth: allahh was one of the 360 gods inside Kaaba. It was the god in Muhammad's family. It was the god of Mutaleb and Abdullai, Muhammad's fathers. Mutaleb was a known idol worshiper, who named his son, Abdullai after his god, allahh. Abdullai means 'servant of allahh'. As an idol worshiper, which allahh was he serving? God? No.

The same allahh (god) Muhammad himself was worshiping in Hira when he said Jubril (allahh's angel gabriel) appeared to him. It was the same allahh Jubriel lied to him that it was the true God. It was all deception by the Devil.

Narrated By 'Aisha : The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Apostle was in the form of good righteous (true) dreams in his sleep. He never had a dream but that it came true like bright day light. He used to go in seclusion (the cave of) Hira where he used to worship(Allah Alone) continuously for many (days) nights. [/b]He used to take with him the journey food for that (stay) and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise again for another period to stay, [b]till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him in it and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read." (The Prophet added), "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, "I do not know how to read," whereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and asked me again to read, but again I replied, "I do not know how to read (or, what shall I read?)." Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me and then released me and said, "Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists). Has created man from a clot. Read and Your Lord is Most Generous... up to... that which he knew not." (96.15)

Then Allah's Apostle returned with the Inspiration, his neck muscles twitching with terror till he entered upon Khadija and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They covered him till his fear was over and then he said, "O Khadija, what is wrong with me?" Then he told her everything that had happened and said, 'I fear that something may happen to me." Khadija said, 'Never! But have the glad tidings, for by Allah, Allah will never disgrace you as you keep good reactions with your Kith and kin, speak the truth, help the poor and the destitute, serve your guest generously and assist the deserving, calamity-afflicted ones." Khadija then accompanied him to (her cousin) Waraqa bin Naufal bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza bin Qusai. Waraqa was the son of her paternal uncle, i.e., her father's brother, who during the Pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the Arabic writing and used to write of the Gospels in Arabic as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadija said to him, "O my cousin! Listen to the story of your nephew." Waraqa asked, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" The Prophet described whatever he had seen.

Waraqa said, "This is the same Namus (i.e., Gabriel, the Angel who keeps the secrets) whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live up to the time when your people would turn you out." Allah's Apostle asked, "Will they turn me out?" Waraqa replied in the affirmative and said: "Never did a man come with something similar to what you have brought but was treated with hostility. If I should remain alive till the day when you will be turned out then I would support you strongly." But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused for a while and the Prophet became so sad as we have heard that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and every time he went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down, Gabriel would appear before him and say, "O Muhammad! You are indeed Allah's Apostle in truth" whereupon his heart would become quiet and he would calm down and would return home. And whenever the period of the coming of the inspiration used to become long, he would do as before, but when he used to reach the top of a mountain, Gabriel would appear before him and say to him what he had said before. (Ibn 'Abbas said regarding the meaning of: 'He it is that Cleaves the daybreak (from the darkness)' (6.96) that Al-Asbah. means the light of the sun during the day and the light of the moon at night).Sahih Bukhari Volume 009, Book 087, Hadith Number 111.

We can see that Muhammad from the family of idol worshiper was already into worship of allahh before he received quranic revelations. Which allah was he worshiping as a pagan? Unfortunately, Jubril (Gabriel) said what he was worshiping was the truth that he came to confirm. He was worshiping allahh when the TRUTH suddenly descended on him. Which truth? Continuation of worshiping allahh (idol).

Gabriel (Jubril) introduced islam forcefully to him: he squeezed him thrice almost to death. That is not the character of the angel of the true God. When the true Gabriel came to Mary to announce the birth of Jesus, the first thing he said was "fear not". He never squeezed, he never tormented her. Violence is satan's way of doing things. Why should God torture a prophet He intends to send good tidings? Where did He do so before?

So, Muhammad went home with pains to deliver 'good news'. After that, he made several attempts to commit suicide following his encounter with Gabriel. That shows Gabriel was not an angel of God, he was the Devil. Muhammad got home being very much afraid. It was Khadijah that appealed to him that he was going to be a prophet. What did she know about prophethood?

On top of it, Gabriel started his revelations with a lie. He said "read" when he didn't come with any written document to be read. Quran is said to be given by recitation, what did he command Muhammad to read. Some islamic apologists say the 'read' means recite (iqra). That does no exonerate Gabriel. He never said anything to Muhammad before he said "recite". What was Muhammad to recite as nothing has been said to him? Islamic revelations started with falsehood and the quran is full of it. It denies the Sonship of Jesus and other vital information leading to salvation. The fact that Gabriel is found to be a liar shows everything he revealed in the quran is a lie.

Thanks man, really comprehensive. The foundation of Islam is fraught with lies and demonic possessions of mohammed. Islam cannot survive any simple scrutiny.

truthman2012:
I'm not sustained by allahh neither am I created by him. Yahweh who is Jehovah is my creator, to whom am accountable.

Allah is an unknown god. In fact he claims he is not the God of the Jews and Christians who rejected him.

Say : O ye that reject Faith!

I worship not that which ye worship,

Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,

Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

To you be your Way, and to mine
(Quran 109:1-6 YusufAli).

Allah confirms he is not the God of the Jews and Christians who rejected islamic faith. He said what Muhammad and muslims worship is not what the Jews and Christians worship. It is Yahweh who had been having dealings with humanity for ages. Who is allahh?

It is because he is not the God of Jews and Christians that he ordered for their killing.

[Quran 9:29] Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued

Who is allah?

allahh and mohammed is the same person. See Quran 2:15 [But] allahh mocks them and prolongs them in their transgression [while] they wander blindly.

Imagine this folks! - an ALL-Powerful GOD that stoops down to the level of MOCKING us mere mortal humans kuffar. allahh is indeed imbued with very human emotions! allahh is making jest of his 'creatures', he must (like human beings) also have a sense of humour.

Methinks this might be due to the fact
that allahh is in fact Mohamed and mohammed is allahh. Whatever mohammed wants to do or instruct, whether good or bad (as in quran 5:51, quran 9:5, 29-30, and some other evil verses) all he need do is to involve allahh and the sahabas (fellow thugs and criminals led by Abkr, aisha's father) will obey.

Islam is a comical and a cruel movement from the pit of hell.

"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

truthman2012:
No doubt, something is seriously wrong with muslims' brains. The more they read the quran, the less intelligent they become. I pity them.

I agree with you. You shoud also understand that it is permissible to lie, in islam, in order to protect the honour of mohammed and islam.

Muslims have a unique sense of psychology and reasoning systems that are very strange, especially when it comes to the defense of mohammed. Remember, mohammed is a supposedly perfect man to muslims, so all his atrocities, genocide and adulterous lives must be positively presented before non-muslims.

Criticing mohammed, of any crime, is suicidal in any muslim country.

gatiano:
Abeg. I didn't agree to anything of such with you or anybody. The words are clears in all the books, it is to you how you want to interprete them to your taste. Do you dude, do you.

Can you show us, either in your quran or hadith, where it was stated that Jesus visited that mecca and kissed the idolatory black stone, run around the kabba and performed umrah (as muslims do)?

Mohammed is a liar bro.

gatiano:
Which Jesus are you talking about? The True one who is a Muslim or The one introduced to you by the devils?

Stop insulting yourself, as many muslims do, Jesus was a Jew and Islam was not available when Jesus was around. I dont need to educate you again that all biblical prophets are of Jewish ancestory. Mohammed only make reference to them to gain legitimacy among the Jewish populations then, who sees him as an imposter, a false prophet and a criminal.

truthman2012:
Your lie has been exposed. Where did you see hadith in my post on temporary marriage? I quoted the quran. If it were hadith, that is how you would have denied it.

Islam is full of confusions, a deliberate attempt by allahh to deceive mankind. You believe some hadiths are incorrect and still accept as correct writing by the same author. If Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, Dawod etc are liars because their writings are fabrications, why do you believe the same liars when they write good things about Muhammad or islam?

I want to sincerely advise you to desist from falsehood and embrace Jesus Christ, the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE (John 14:6).

The muslims are bunch of confusionist. They will accept the hadith narrations that speak favourably about mohammed but will condemn hadiths that speaks about his indecencies and criminal behaviours. Thats is pure hypocrisy.

If the hadith cannot be fully trusted why are muslims still using it as a guide? If quran cannot be explained well without the hadith that means islam is a pure hoax as it had been for over 1400yrs. No wonder many Islamic terrorist are called 'misunderstanders of Islam'. Why wont they be when a verse of the quran will ask muslims to live in peace with christians and Jews while the next verses will ask muslims to kill Jews and enslave christians.

Islam is a truly mysterios religion to a sane mind and it belongs to the devil.

Is 'Islam for muslim' section no more available on nairaland?

Abuamam:
Undiluted rubbish. The bible said so does not mean that God said so. The bible is a fabricated admixture of fables and fabrications that has no basis in any authentic authorship. You believe in it does not make it true. Go and teach your pastors and cattle rearers and men of mammon the verses about divorce in your bible, before you come and hold us to your nonsense standards set by Paul the liar and his cohorts. Islam has a complete blueprint for righteous daily living. Ws do not need your fabricated man-made theories and Satanic inspirations disguised as holy spirit 'visions'.

It seems that the standard technique is to state some shallow and ignorant postulation, commensurate with your level of IQ, ignore all corrections, then claim you have proven your postulation. Classic example of "he who knows not, and knows not that he knows not...".
You should go learn the use of logic and reason, before you post on social fora. This is not a church where you are expected to leave your senses at home, before attending.

You are attacking the messanger and not confronting the message. The op, using the quran and the hadith, gave you instances whereby the islamic prophet violated his own 'revelations' and we expected muslims to explain the reason for the violations. Your anger will not make us stop stating the obvios against mohammed.

"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

truthman2012:
The true God will never permit s.exual sins. He had not done it before and will not do it. Solomon fell from God and his s.exual indescencies were not approved of Him.

David took the wife of Uriah and God was displeased with him. Is it the same God that enjoined Muhammad to snatch the wife of Said, his adopted son?

This is not even the issue here, the matter on hand is Yahweh is not the God of Muhammad, who would tolerate everything allahh was permitting. Yahweh prophets knew their God, they knew He would not overlook breaking of His command and s.exual sins as Muhammad was doing.

As for the phone number, I don't see the need for it since you can say whatever you want to say through this forum. The bible says from the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. The kind of abuses and curses muslims rain on opponents on nairaland show what is on their minds. You know how Muhammad dealt with anyone who opposed him. Besides, your quran says you should not be a friend to Christians (Quran 5:51) and you can break your oath with them.

For your own good never give out your phone number and\or email address to anonymous person(s), it is very dangerous. You dont know who is who.

The argument and debate should start and end on this forum. The hadith and the quran are capable of defending mohammed and not RoyPcain.

@ truthman2012, always remember that:

"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

Empiree:
So basically, @underlined is what u intend to achieve like other bigots?. Guess what?, i got bad news for you.

No one is trying to achieve anything unreasonable here but only trying to tell you that islam is an evil and backward religion in all ramification. The foundation of islam alone is an enough proof the it is a lying and a bloodthirsty religiom.

The longeest and the bloodiest real estate war in world history is still technically raging bw the sunnis and the shia muslims. You know the history so i need not repeat myself.

The fact remains that 90% of muslims are ignorant of the lifestyle of mohammed and the bloody history of islam right from its inceptions. Among all the major religions of the world, islam is the only religion that was started and sustained via bloodletting and institutionalized oppressions of 'infidels', from the time of mohammed to the time of Abkr till this present age and time.

Among all religious books of the world, the unholy quran is the only book that promote enmity, hatred and bigotry againsg the Jews, christians and non-muslims in general.

You can deny as usual but the facts and history cannot be erased by your type. As a matter of moral responsibility, we will continue to write and speak the truth about islam and its evil ideology. You can as well continue to defend evil, but the lies and evil of islam will not last more longer with the advent of modern communication system.

For now, cos of the internet, we are free from murderous islamic blasphemy laws.

[quote author=Empiree post=33010463][/quote]"Proof all things and hold fast to which
is good" (1 Thessalonians 5:21)

The above quote caught my attention. It is funny you are quoting Paul, the apostles, that muslims learn to hate. Are muslims confused or what?

Empiree:
I love mohammad

Even a mum loves his criminal son.

Empiree:
Perhaps, you need to take a little more time to review her posts and see that many nonsense she posted, lots of them are given answers. That will be proper if indeed you truly worship your god. I know there lots of Christians that have no clue what's in the bible. Should I compile bunch of extreme verses from Bibles and paste them?. You think i have time for that?. I am sure if i do that some Christians will try to give explanation for them. Common sense should always prevail. If ifean truly believes Christianity is the way, she should care less about Islam.

Truth always stands clear from falsehood. Ifeann is so in-secured. That's why she's here and there. Just click on her profile.

You can check these out.

Beware Of Christians (evangelism) And Their Use Of Deceptions
https://www.nairaland.com/2189813/beware-christians-evangelism-use-deceptions

Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian
https://www.nairaland.com/2153126/top-ten-signs-youre-fundamentalist


Muslims, Why Did You Fail To Probe This?
https://www.nairaland.com/2260353/muslims-why-did-fail-probe#down

Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This?
https://www.nairaland.com/2257912/jesus-naive-said

Differences Between The One True God And The Islamic Allah
https://www.nairaland.com/2256249/differences-between-one-true-god

Islam's most powerful weapon the " Al Taqiyyah
https://www.nairaland.com/2172662/islams-most-powerful-weapon-al

Simple Questions
https://www.nairaland.com/2250628/simple-questions

Truth Not Tarqiyyah Is What Islam Preahces
https://www.nairaland.com/2259687/truth-not-tarqiyyah-what-islam

Jesus, son of man?
https://www.nairaland.com/2251469/jesus-son-man-read

Did Jesus Died For Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In
https://www.nairaland.com/2235053/did-jesus-died-sin-which

Islamic Allah's Messenger Claims Allah Wrote The Bible
https://www.nairaland.com/2239077/islamic-allahs-messenger-claims-allah

More Headache For Trinitarians!(NON-CHRISTIANS ARE NOT INVITED)
https://www.nairaland.com/2252055/more-headache-trinitarians-non-christians-not

For Muslims Who Believe The Bible Is Corrupt
https://www.nairaland.com/2248120/muslims-believe-bible-corrupt

Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses
https://www.nairaland.com/2161012/lets-take-look-slavery-contained

Interesting Teachings You Can Learn From The Quran
https://www.nairaland.com/2246596/interesting-teachings-learn-quran

Do Qur'an Says Jesus Has Died?! Explanation Of The Word "Tawafii"
https://www.nairaland.com/2236722/quran-says-jesus-died-explanation

Radical Muslims Kill Over 100 Muslims At Mosques In Sanaa, ..what Else Is New
https://www.nairaland.com/2207449/radical-muslims-kill-over-100

Below, Bible was completely trashed.

Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible?
https://www.nairaland.com/2172133/question-did-jesus-read-bible

Most of these threads are opened by christians. Muslims also tackled them as they possibly could.


As for you, johnydon22, honestly, there is no need to try to convince anyone anymore. Even some kids today know that Western media, Jewish an christian islamophobia enterprise would do anything to whitewash.

@ Empiree, are you saying that all the quranic verses quoted are false or all taken out of context? The sooner you agree that Quran is essentially an anti-jewish and anti-christian hate-book, the better. This is a fact that is known to an average arab-muslim but are denied by African\Nigerian muslims.

Mohammed, in the quran, attacked and cursed christians in many verses and you are fully aware, unless you are ignorant or deliberately lying about that, that is not to say that there are no few verses that are pro-Jewish and pro-christian (and had been abrogated).

So you accusing christians that are pointing out the flaws in your religion is ridiculous because your quranic and mohammed started the 'bashing'. We are not bashing Islam but only pointing out the fact that mohammed is a false prophet, going by his deeds and actions (and the deeds of the first caliph, Abkr, which led to the first civil war bw the sunnis and the shia).

The best way to understand Islam is how muslims treat non-muslims in islamic countries. While muslims can come to europe and distribute quran openly on the street, if a christian attempt distribute the bible in saudi arabia, iran, afghanistan etc, such a christian will be killed.

Muslims are free to propapagate islam in non-muslim countries, but if a christian attempt to preach christ in muslim nation, he can be killed or jailed.

Christians do free convert to islam in western countries, but if a muslim in saudi arabia, egypt, iran, yemen etc, leaves islam, he will be killed.

While many verses in the quran blasphem against basic christian doctrines (some verses even cursed jews and christians), any attempt at criticing mohammed or quran can lead to death, especially in muslim countries.

While muslims are allowed to migrate to non-muslims countries to have a better life and future, muslim countries do not accept or accomodate non- muslims or grant citizenship right to non-muslims. Muslim countries do not even permit immigration of fellow muslims to their countries.

So with all these points, an average non-muslim will have phobia for muslims and islam. Until islam reform and accept the fact that all man can\will never be muslims, muslims will keep having problems wherever they go.

anigbajumo:
coz is clearly seen dat u ar anti islam I bliv dat cannot cnfuse u 2d core....make I kuku no stress mai self.

It is an funny that anyone that speaks against some verses in the quran, which motivate muslims to murder and oppress non-muslims, is labelled a rascist (tho islam is not a race), islamophobe or anti-islam. Have you asked yourself why we dont have christophobia, hindophobia, bhudophobia, judeophobia etc, but only islamophobia. That shows that something is really wrong with Islam as a religion.

When some verses (quran 9:5, quran 5:51, quran 9:29-30) in the quran specifically called for hatred of Jews and christians, it is a call for concern. An incidentally pious muslims are religiously carrying out this instruction by allahh which had led to loss of lives.

Muslims should accept the fact that quran is essentially an anti-jewish and anti-christian book based on hatred, opprresion and prejudice. If muslims accuse christians of being Islamophobic, the quran itself is judeophobic and christianophobic.

Quran is a book of hate, instructions for violence, injustice and oppression.

RoyPCain:
the liar will say evildoers are the true muslims while all of us in islam who are not bent on doing evil she condemned as not truly muslims as if she has opened our hearts and see no faith!
Muhammad [SA] is my role model and elevated me so much. he [SA] elevated my father, my grandfather, my great grandfather. i am not an extremist or a liberal. i am a conservative, in all moderation.


enemies of islam will die of bad belly. and islam will wax stronger. the people who kill non muslims for religion will like muslims, too. after all boko haram killed muslims, isis burnt muslim.

A simple instruction from mohammed as written below is:

"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

So who do I take serious, mohammed (pshits upon be upon him) or you?

shahydbinaliyu:
where in quran you see that or its in hadith? if you have no proof.. then stop saying trash bro.. that's why i always tell people to verify everything before they post

Al-taqiya mode loading......95%.

Quran 9:5, popularly known as the verse of the sword.

shahydbinaliyu:
If the Christians and the Jews look at how the prophets
had prayed in the torah and the gospel, they will find
themselves praying like Muslims.
Now we will compare the prayer of the Muslims with
the prophets in the bible..
Let us begin:
-Muslims (those who submit to the will of God)
perform ablution (wash) before prayer.
Then David arose from the earth and washed and
anointed himself and changed his clothes. And he went
into the house of the LORD and worshiped (Samuel
12:20)
They shall wash their hands and their feet (Exodus
30:21)
31with which Moses and Aaron and his sons washed
their hands and their feet. (Exodus 40:31)
-The first position of prayer, Muslims lift up their
hands palms out at the side of the head 4So I will bless
you as long as I live;
in your name I will lift up my hands. (Psalm 63:4)
And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God, and all the
people answered,(A) “Amen, Amen,”(B) lifting up their
hands. And they bowed their heads and worshiped the
LORD with their faces to the ground.(Nehemiah 8:6)
-Muslims while lifting up their hands proclaim: “God is
Great”
Great is the LORD and greatly to be praised
in the city of our God!
His holy mountain, (Psalm 48:1)
– when the Muslims pray, they fell on their faces.
Then Abram fell on his face. And God said to him
(Genesis 17:3)
Then Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the
assembly to the entrance of the tent of meeting and fell
on their faces. And the glory of the LORD appeared to
them, (Numbers 20:6)
Then Joshua tore his clothes and fell to the earth on his
face before the ark of the LORD (Joshua 7:6).
When all the people of Israel saw the fire come down
and the glory of the LORD on the temple, they bowed
down with their faces to the ground (2 chronicles 7:3)
And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God, and all the
people answered,(A) “Amen, Amen,”(B) lifting up their
hands.(C) And they bowed their heads and worshiped
the LORD with their faces to the ground.(Nehemiah
8:6)
Jesus praying to God:
”And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed
”( Matthew 26:39)
Even Jesus’ disciples submitted as Muslims:
“When the disciples heard this, they fell on their faces
and were terrified”( Matthew 17:6)
And Elijah went up to the top of Mount Carmel, And he
bowed himself down on the earth and put his face
between his knees.(1 kings 18: 42 )
And all the angels were standing around the throne and
around the elders and the four living creatures, and they
fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God,
(Revelations 7:11)
Oh come, let us worship and bow down;
let us kneel before the LORD, our Maker! (Psalm 95:6)
All the prosperous of the earth eat and worship;
before him shall bow all who go down to the dust
( Psalm 22:29)
Now Manoah and his wife were watching, and they fell
on their faces to the ground. (Judges 13:20)
And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces
and said, “The LORD, he is God; the LORD, he is God.
”( 1 kings 18:39)
David rose from beside the stone heap and fell on his
face to the ground( 1 Samuel 20: 41)
And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshiped
(Joshua 5:14)
When Abraham’s servant heard their words, he bowed
himself to the earth before the LORD.(Genesis 24:52)
Do you pray like the messengers of God have prayed?!
Bow down and prostrate to God and ask for guidance.
It’s God, alone, who can guide us .
May God reward us with the highest level of paradise

All these religious practices are pre-islamic and part and parcel of Judaism. Ceremonial washing of hands and feet did not start with Islam, mohammed only borrow it from Judaism. Why do muslims like claiming other people's religios practices as if its originated from them? Thats fraud, ok?

All biblical prophets are traceable to Jewish ancestors. It is a criminal and bad claim from muslims to claim that Jews such as Jesus, moses, elijah, john, zachariah, jeremiah etc are muslims. It is absurd and a criminal offence for muslims claiming that those charaters are muslims and their mode of worship, islamic.

shahydbinaliyu:
,

And when the sacred months (ramadan) have passed, then kill the polytheists (Jews and chrsitians) wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

If bomb were available then, mohammed would have used them against his enemies.