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The religion of peace never dissapoints. The mohammedan mobs are only following the instruction of the prophet (peace be upon me) as contained in the quran, hadith and the sunnah of the prophet.

I will still get a response that these killers do not understand the quran, or they dont understand arabic, or they read the quran out of context and other mechanical altaqiya defensive response.

This 'religion of peace' can never be separated from evil and wickedness, it is their trade-mark.

Comparing Jesus and mohammed is like comparing Sugar-cane and bitter-leaf, a pastor and a criminal, Real madrid and akwa united, light and darkness, a peace-maker and a warrior etc.

In short they are 100% different.

JackBizzle:
When did you become an Arab history remixer/romanticist like Tbaba?

Arab/Islamic slavery of Africans was worse!

-Many of the slaves were killed. (how many slave descendants do you see in Arab lands?)
-Castration
-Walking across deserts to death
-Forced conversion
-Denial

The last one is the most painful...the Arabs never apologised and the Nigerian muslim keeps denying islamic involvement in slavery.

Why will they apologize when alllah had sanctioned them to enslave blacks while black muslims are defending them (the evil islamic arabs) on nairaland.

azeezlateefah:
Why not confirm it first before posting? #Freedom
Don't mind the people who quote the Quran out of context, for example if a Us army General during Vietnam war said to his troops that attack the Vietnamese anywhere you meet them ? does it mean Same American soldiers should be killing Vietnamese today after many years..
Prophet Muhammad pbuh never fight offensive war, it was defensive... The Muslims were oppressed then it was a matter of be an idolater or get killed then ...


@ Op you need to read about prophet Muhammad

shalom

Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

Qur’an 9:30—And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away.

Qur’an 98:6—Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein. They (the christians and the Jews) are the worst of creatures.

Sahih Muslim 4366—Muhammad said: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.” Al-Bukhari, Al-Adab al-Mufrad 1103 —Muhammad said: “Do not give the People of the Book (christians and Jews) the greeting first. Force them to the narrowest part of the road.”

(Ishaq, p. 243): "I heard the Apostle say: 'Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks...Allah sent down concerning him: 'To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom." [9:61] "Jibril came to Muhammad and said, 'If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's.'"

Bukhari (Book #87, Hadith #161) Narrated ‘Abdullah: The Prophet said, “I saw (in a dream) a black woman with unkempt hair going out of Medina and settling at Mahai’a, i.e., Al-Juhfa. I interpreted that as a symbol of epidemic of Medina being transferred to that place (Al-Juhfa).”

According to the prophet of alllah (peace be upon me), seeing a black woman in a dream is a bad omen, a symbol of epidemic.

Before any muslim places a fatwa on me, he should cross-check the references I gave before issuing the fatwa.

Islam is a religion of peace™

Bukhari Volume 3, Book 49, Number 857: Narrated Um Kulthum bint Uqba: That she heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “He who makes peace between the people by INVENTING good information or saying good things, is not a liar.”

Muslim Book 032, Number 6303: Humaid b. ‘Abd al-Rahman b. ‘Auf reported that his mother Umm Kulthum daughter of ‘Uqba b. Abu Mu’ait, and she was one amongst the first emigrants who pledged allegiance to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him), as saying that she heard Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: A liar is not one who tries to bring reconciliation amongst people and speaks good (in order to avert dispute), or he conveys good.

You can lie as a muslim if it is for good deen.

Remember, islam is a religion of peace.

Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4366: “It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.”

Ibn Ishaq, Life of Muhammad (Karachi) p.553: …the Apostle of Allah said, “Kill any Jew that falls into your power.”

Bukhari Vol.4 Bk.52 No.176 Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar: Allah’s Apostle said,“You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, ‘O ‘Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)!There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.”

Quran-5.60 “…[the Jews] whom Allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made apes and swine, and who served the Shaitan…”

Quran-5:72 “Surely, they have disbelieved who say: “Allah is the Messiah … and the Fire will be his abode and for the Zalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers) there are no helpers.” [Not only does this verse say Christians burn in hell, it also equates them to “polytheists”, thus negating their “special status” as “people of the book”.]

Quran-9.29 “Fight against those who … acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and know themselves subdued.”

Remember, police is your friend and izlam is a religion of peace.

tartar9:
aren't they already translated Quran in german language.

All islamic religion teachings must be done in German language. All islamic prayers must be rendered in German language. All koran, hadith and the sunnah of the prophet must be translated to German language, thats why muslims are complaining of being victimized in Austria.

I think any responsible govt will do anything possible for the security of her citizens.

Ajibam:
If translated, they will see the malicious verses in it. That's why!

I think you have a point, there are some anti-jewish and anti-christian verses in the koran they do not want the austrian or western public to see.

"If a version of the Koran (in German)
comes along as the codified, ultimate
(version), then this would contradict the self-conception of Islam," Baghajati said.

I am still wondering of how the translation of the koran, in another language, would contradict the self-conception of islam, afterall God created all languages as equal. And I believe that the translation will make the understanding of the religion better and easier.

uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKKCN0HR26X20141002?irpc=932

VIENNA (Reuters) - Austria called on
Thursday for standardised German-
language translations of the Koran and
moved to prohibit foreign funding of
Muslim organisations on its soil in a draft
law aimed in part at tackling Islamic extremism. The bill will overhaul a 1912 law governing
the status of Austrian Muslims, prompting
concern from a major local Islamic body,
which saw it mirroring widespread
mistrust of Muslims. The initiative comes at a time of robust
support for the far-right in Austria and also
alarm over reports of Muslims from the
small, neutral country joining Islamist
militant forces fighting in the Middle East. "The clear message should be that there is
no contradiction between being a faithful
Muslim and a proud Austrian," said Foreign
Affairs and Integration Minister Sebastian
Kurz, a member of the conservative
People's Party. "If you don't have orderly legal
regulation ... this can always bring dangers
(of extremism). In this sense, if you like this
is maybe a part of prevention," he told
reporters. He added that Sharia, or Islamic law, had
"no place here". Roughly half a million Muslims live in
Austria, representing about 6 percent of the
total population, which is overwhelmingly
Roman Catholic. The Christian and Muslim communities have
co-existed for years and relations have
been relatively unproblematic by
comparison with friction seen in other
European nations. For example, unlike France, Austria has not
moved to ban Muslim women from wearing
full-face veils in public. However, tensions have grown with the
rise of the anti-immigration and Islam-
critical Freedom Party, which is backed by
roughly a quarter of Austrians according to
opinion polls. "NOT A GIFT" Under the terms of the draft bill, state-
recognised religious organisations will
have to offer a unified German-language
version of their doctrine and sources of
faith, including for the Muslim holy book,
the Koran. At present, there are only two officially
recognised Islamic organisations in Austria. The legislation would also forbid Islamic
teachers employed by any foreign states
from working in Austria and stop outside
funding for any Islamic organisations. "Among the Muslim base, the law is not
seen as a gift for the Eid holiday," said Carla
Amina Baghajati, spokeswoman of the
Islamic Community of Faith in Austria
(IGGIO), referring to Eid-al-Adha which
Muslims will celebrate in the coming days. "(The bill) mirrors in its overtone the spirit
of the times we currently perceive, which
is marked by blanket suspicion and mistrust
against Muslims," she said, adding that she
was optimistic the legislation might still be
amended. Specifically, the IGGIO was worried about
the law appearing to bundle together
various Sunni, Shi'ite and Alawite sects and
also about the ramifications of trying to
agree on a unified German-language
version of the Koran. The Arabic version of the Koran is generally
thought of as the word of Allah in Islam,
with any translation including an element
of interpretation. "If a version of the Koran (in German)
comes along as the codified, ultimate
(version), then this would contradict the
self-conception of Islam," Baghajati said. Foreign minister Kurz told Austrian radio
last month that numerous translations of
the Koran had generated countless
interpretations and said it was in the
interests of local Muslims to eliminate
possible misunderstandings. The Austrian government warned in August
that Islamist militancy was on the rise and
officials have said around 140 people have
left Austria to fight with the likes of the
Islamic State, which has grabbed control of
swathes of Iraq and Syria. Last month, Austria said it would ban
militant Islamist groups' symbols and strip
citizenship from people who travel abroad
to fight with jihadists. On Thursday Kurz dismissed suggestions
that a unified translation would pose a
problem. "Am I sceptical when I hear this is difficult
or not easily done? Fundamentally no," said
Kurz, adding that it had previously been
possible to create unified teaching material
for Islamic religious studies at schools
across Austria.

yazach:
Honestly, am not convinced with your response that you know absolutely nothing when it come to hadith except that you will browse through google and get what suite you because someone who want to claim knowledgeable of hadith will never doubt the authenticity of prophet Muhammed's(alaihi solaat wa salaam)miracles

In this modern age and time I dont need to attend any mandarass (sorry if I didnt spell it correctly) or islamic school to know the fundamentals of islamic teachings. Both the koran and the ha-death are well downloaded for even a layman to read.

You can do yourself a favour by cross-referencing any ha-death i posted if they are true or false.

Muslims always hiding or masking the muderous and inhuman instrutions of alllh from we infidels, thank God for the internet.

tartar9:
there are many of such prophecies in the authentic hadith's.and even in the Holy Quran the last revealed verse signaled Allah's completion and end of his mission.

Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4366: “It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.”

Ibn Ishaq, Life of Muhammad (Karachi) p.553: …the Apostle of Allah said, “Kill any Jew that falls into your power.”

Bukhari Vol.4 Bk.52 No.176 Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar: Allah’s Apostle said,“You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, ‘O ‘Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)!There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.”

Are the above ha-death authentic or fake concerning how dutiful muslims should treat we infidel Jews and christians in arab countries?

tartar9:
The Prophet Muhammad(SAW) prophecised his death many times in the hadith.

Is your ha-death authentic or fabricated so that I will know how to respond to your lies?

There is always a justification for every evil act, but the most dangerous is using religion as a justification for evil.

Muslims always fighting for mohammed and alllah, a pre-islamic arabian god worshipped by mohoammed's (peace be upon me) father, abdullah (meaning slave of allah).

Islam is not a religion of peace that "radical" Muslims have hijacked, Islam is a radical ideology that liberal politicians and media are ignoring.

ymdo:
Can you explain how the use of hijab by muslim students in public school amounts to stealth ISLAMIZATION?

Hijab is a symbol of arab\islamic cultural supremacy. Its approval will indirectly alter the social order in terms of the belief system, and definitely lead to further islamic demands (as we have seen it happen in several countries). Hijab is just the beginning of islamic demands if unchecked by the authorities and its often lead to civil disobedience\disorder, in the long run.

That is y hijab had been banned in many european countries: they understand the long term social-cultural effect on their traditional society.

The call for hijab is a new demand being made by salafi muslims world wide. Its an attempt by the arabs, using religion as a cover, to sow the seed of islam in every culture hence destroyin such cultures and replacing them with arabia culture\supersitutions, aka islam.

striktlymi:
Yes! Allah is the same God as that of the Bible.

Thats a fat lie often told my apologetic muslims. The God and father of Jesus is different from the islamic god.

Read and Bible and the quran, they contradict alot and can certainly come from different authors and inspiration.

K0ala7:
I do not think you are capable of holding a serious conversation. I'll leave you with this:

"With regard to stupidity, I have already said it is of two sorts, one natural, the other acquired; the one effect of ignorance, the other of instruction. Now of these two sorts of ignorance or stupidity, which is the most incurable? The latter. The man who knows nothing may learn; it is only requisite to excite in him the desire of knowledge. But he who is falsely learned, and has by degrees lost his reason when he thought to improve it, has purchased his stupidity at too dear a rate to ever renounce it." - Helvetius

Your response is a sign of irrationality in your level of reasoning. Make your point and stop throwing diatribe.

Nigeria is a secular state with muslims, christians, african traditional religion adherents, etc. If muslims start asking for 'special' right to accomodate the arabian superstitutions\religions, that will only lead to more chaos when the christians starts asking for their right too.

One can dress modestly without puttin on hijab, and hijab is an arabian cultural dressings and not even an african way of dressing.

Atimes I wonder why human beings are fast retrogressing in reasoning.

Abdulsalam20:
a thread hit front page about the court judgement on the use of hijaab in lagos state.....but i observe that most christians are against the use of hijaab BUT i discover that USING HIAAB(covering head) is commanded in the bible

( 1 Corinthians 11:3-10

1Co 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is
Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of
Christ is God.
1Co 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered,
dishonoureth his head.

1Co 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head
uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if
she were shaven.
1Co 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it
be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be
covered.
1Co 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as
he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of
the man.
1Co 11:8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
1Co 11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman
for the man.
1Co 11:10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head
because of the angels.




JUST BASED ON MY OWN HUMBLE OPPINION THIS VERSE COMMAND FEMALE TO COVER THEIR HEAD WHILE PRAYING

BUT THE QUESTION IS
1. WHEN CHILDREN GOES TO SCHOOL DONT THEY PRAY ON THE ASSEMBLY GROUND?
2.WHEN CHILDREN GOES TO SCHOOL DONT THEY PRAY DURING BREAK TIME? BEFORE EATING?
3.WHEN WE ARE MOVING BY THE ROAD WE PRAY IN OUR MIND THEREFORE THIS IS JUST A JUSTIFICATION FOR THE THE FACT THAT WOMEN SHOULD COVER THEIR HEADVERYTIME


MY CRISTIAN BROTHERS DONT LET US NEGLECT THE WILL OF GOD BECAUSE OF OUR HATRED OR INTOLERANCY

another case is the issue of interest but i wont post it here christians are commanded not to take interest


ALL THIS ACTION ARE SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST

Covering of hair is diffrent from wearing hijab. Wearin hijab is synonymous to arab\muslim culture while hair covering before prayer is almost a universal pratcice among the christians, jews, muslims, hindus etc.

So no to compulsory hijab and stealth islamization.

Bukhari Vol.1 Bk.7 No.1331 “The Prophet said, ‘I have been given five things which were not given to any one else before me.

1. Allah made me victorious by awe by His terrorizing my enemies.

2. The earth has been made for me.

3. Booty has been made lawful for me yet it was not lawful for anyone else before me.

4. I have been given the right of intercession.

5. Every Prophet used to be sent to his nation only but I have been sent to all mankind.’”

Quran-8:1— “They ask thee concerning (things taken as) spoils of war (booty). Say: “(such) spoils are at the disposal of Allah and the Messenger: So fear Allah, and keep straight the relations between yourselves: Obey Allah and His Messenger, if ye do believe.”

Quran-8:41— “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah and the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer, – if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing, – the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things.”

What the prophet is saying here is that looting (including taking of slaves and POW) is acceptable during war as long as one-fifth is given to allah and his messanger (mohammed).

Caveat emptor: All quotations from the quran and authentic hadith and are subject to verifications.

adaybayor:
this is what is says......... Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and
His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not
adopt the religion of truth from those who were given
the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah
willingly while they are humbled.

jizyah means tax, and I am sure you know only government can take tax.

Why must you fight me if I do not believe in the last day? Why must you fight me if I do not accept mohammed as a messenger of God? Why must you impose a special tax on me for not sharing the same believe with you? Why must you humble me because I do not believe in allah or his prophet. Bro you are totally infringing on my fundamental human right as against the UN declaration of universal human right.

The right to religion.

The right to freedom of conciemce.

The right to associatiom.

The right to life.

The right to embrace and leave any religion.

All summed up to the right to human dignity.

Quran 9:29-30 is against my fundamental human right.

adaybayor:
all you have posted are interpretation written by people of similar thinking to yours. do you expect your pastors to preach the true teachings of islam to you? that said, how does you post negate what I posted

Can you please explain quran 9:29 on how muslims should treat christians and Jews? It is possible that I got it wrong or I had a pre-conceived interpretation.

candy:
When Christians start writing contrary stuff now, op will feel bad, forgetting that he posted on a wrong section. This is not the imole section op.

All quotations I made are from the quran, I didnt forge anything to malign the religion of peace.

adaybayor:
Please feel free to add more

Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

Qur’an 9:30—And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away.

Qur’an 98:6—Those who reject (Truth, that mohammed is a prophet), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein. They (the christians and the Jews) are the worst of creatures.

Qur’an 2:106—Whatever verse we shall abrogate, or cause [thee] to forget, we will bring a better than it, or one like unto it. Dost thou not know that God is almighty?

Qur’an 16:101—When We substitute one revelation for another—and God knows best what He reveals (in stages)—they say, “Thou art but a forger”: but most of them
understand not.

Quran 9:29, Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth (Islam) from those who were given the Scripture (christians and Jews) - [fight] until they (christians and Jews) give the jizyah (security tax) willingly while they are subdued.

Quran 9:5, And when the sacred months (ramadan) have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent (become muslims), establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)

quran 5:32-33, Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely.
And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.Indeed, the penalty for those who wagewar against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or
that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafteris a great punishment,

Quran 5:32 is a statement allah made to the children of Isreal, and not muslims,

Many a time I have watched many mainstream media\reporter calling people, who tend to be critical of certain religion, Racist. This got me confused because my understanding is that race has to do with homogenous people who share the same genetical, geographical, and some distinct attributes that are quite different from the others.

Like we have the black race, also called negroid, the white race (or the causiacians), the arabs race etc. However, recently, anyone that criticizes some teachings of Islam is called a rascist. So I begin to wonder if there is now a different meaning to rascism to what I used to knw before.

This topic should be moved to 'Islam for muslim section', NL has a separate section for islam-related topics.

It seems nairaland is gradually being hijacked by some muslims extremist who cannot handle criticism logically.

PastorKun:
I really don't get your point about the bible casting David and Solomon in bad light cause the things considered negative written about them combined is not up to 10% of the negative things attributed to your prophet in your quoran and hadiths yet you seem him as a perfect example. Is that not the heighted of conceited hypocrisy

That is Islamic logic. As long as you are a muslim, your evil must be protected. This is what make christians different from muslims.

David and solomom committed many crime and the bible did not fail to point them out to us. David, according to the bible, is a man after God's heart but yet we are not to follow his foot-steps. Jesus is christains' role model who the bible and the apostles asked us to emulate.

On the other hand, mohammed (peace be upon me), is the role model whom muslims are to follow. But is he a good role model? No! Even David, as spiritually weak as he is, is far better that the Islamic prophet. While David felt remorseful for every sin he committed, mohammed (peace be upon me) always justify his crime with new revelations from alah. Luckily for him, no one dare question the 'revelation' he had from alah because it is tantamount to treason.

AgentOfAllah:
You know, "I don't know" is also an acceptable answer, and it wouldn't pass you off as the brain-tickled arrogant prat that needless ad-hominems make you out to be. Thanks anyway, for your non-attempt!

Good response! Even the title of his thread 'the divine big bang' shows that he is an illiterate.

Which holy book approve of the 'big bang' creation hypothesis? Atimes I wonder how the follower of the Religion of Peace™ think.