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golpen: The first point was that -‘The creation of the Earth and the Heaven - the universe was in six, 24-hour days.

Point No. 2 - Light was then before the source of light.

Point No. 3 - Day came into existence before creation of Earth.

Point No. 4 - Earth came into existence before Sun.

Point No. 5 - Vegetation came into existence, before sunlight

Point No. 6 - Light of the Moon is its own light

.Point No. 7 - The earth - Will it perish or will it abide forever?

Point No. 8 - The heavens have got pillars

.Point No. 9 - The earth has got pillars.

Point No. 10 - God said… ‘You can have all plants and all vegetation, including the poisonous plants?

’Point No. 11 - The scientific test the falsification test, of Mark, Ch. No. 16, Verse No. 17 and 18.

Point No. 12- Using blood to disinfect the house, against plague of leprosy.

Point No. 13 - A woman remains unclean for double the period, if she gives birth to a daughter, as compared to a son.

Point No. 14 – How do you find out the bitter water test for adultery?

Point No. 15 - Eighteen different contradictions in less than 60 Verses of Ezra, Ch. 2, and Nehemiah, Ch. 7. I did not count them as 18 different - I counted them only as one.

Point No. 16 - The total is different is both the chapters.

Point No. 17 - Are there 200 singing men and women, or are there 245 singing men and women?

Point No. 18 - Was Jehoiachin 18 years old, or was he 8 years old when he began to reign?

Point No. 19 - Did he reign for 3 months, or 3 months 10 days.

Point No. 20 - Did Solomon have 3000 baths, or 2000 baths?

Point No. 21 - Is that Basha, how could he invade Judah, 10 years after his death?

Point No. 22 is - Almighty God - He said, “I put up a rainbow in the sky, as a promise to the human kind, never to submerge the world again by water”.




these are from the debate between dr william campbell and dr zakir naik, where doctor naik highlighted these points and asked dr campbell to prove it, but the later said openly that he had no answers for them. i don't doubt that somw xtian in this forum might be more sound than dr campbell so they should try prove this points logically or scientifically. if not, maybe it's time they started asking their pastors these questions qnd search for the truth, instead of lashing another man's religion.

thanks...expect a full highlight and references of these pointa in my next post for easy comprehension and research.

pick a discussion one by one to make discussion better.

vedaxcool: ^^^

The problem with Christians is that they like forming pseudo-scientists when in fact they have little or no grasp of what science has to say of the many stuff the bible claims, like satan taking Jesus to the highest point on earth and showing all of earths kingdom in its splendor - I am talking of the temptation of Jesus as written in the bible, the writer of the bible probably thought the earth was flat.

Isaiah 40:21-22, the earth is circullar. You can give a complementary quranic verse that says the earth is circullar.

Job 26: 7, the earth hangs on nothing.

golpen: Further, the, Bible says Genesis, Ch. 1, Verses 9 to 13… ‘Earth was created on the 3rd day. How can you have a night and day without the earth ? The day depends upon the rotation of the Earth Without the earth created, how can you have a night and day? Bible says in Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses No. 3 and 5,…‘Light was created on the first day.’ Genesis, Ch., 1 Verses, 14 to 19… ‘The cause of light - stars and the sun, etc. was created on the fourth day’. How can the cause of light be created on the 4th day - later than the light which came into existence on the first day?


Let a christian please explain this above if they can...

Quote those verses completely one by one, as explained in the bible, then we can discuss that aspect. Stop justaposing to get 'likes'. You wont be paid for that.

Dewze: Maybe Adam was a dinosaur.

According to the mohammedic science and theology, Adam and early men just after Adam, are bigger than an average dinosaur.

Dewze: Maybe Adam was a dinosaur.

According to the mohammedic science and theology, Adam and early men just after Adam are bigger than an average dinosaur.

usba: Another rubbish thread from yours truly, . . ., let me guess the business idea was about setting up a church where you would fleece the unsuspecting, right? intelligent my shoes indeed!

Your blessings will not pass you by. Say 'amen'.

Empiree: You just being sadistic and jealous. The hadith reads:
Volume 4, Book 54, Number 516:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "If anyone of you rouses from sleep and performs the ablution, he should wash his nose by putting water in it and then blowing it out thrice, because Satan has stayed in the upper part of his nose all the night."

This is purity. You got problem with this?. There is even another hadith that talks about brushing teeth at night before going to bed. This is practiced in West. You probably dont brush your teeth before you sleep at night . That's dirty. You gotta clean the bush meat you ate all day.

I am being sadistic and jelous because I refused to accept a superstitous belief that the devil had stayed in the upper part of my nose all night? No wonder the hadith is filled with arabian superstitutions written down as a Islamic theology and accepted by a 21st musllim, hook, line and sinker, without questioning.

The yoruba mythology of 'Odudwau' falling from the sky, giving birth to 'lamurudu' and 'lamurudu' giving birth to 'okanlawon' etc will be refutted by Yoruba muslims, but the same yoruba muslim will believe that the devil had stayed in the upper part of their noses all night. Very ridiculous!

And please do not tell me that muslims\arabs introduce tooth-brushing to the world.

Empiree: The verse of Qur'am reads: Sahih International
"They will ask you about menstruation. Say, 'It is harmful, so keep away from women during it. Do not approach them until they are purified of it, when they are purified you may approach them as Allah has ordained." (Qur'an 2:222)

Allah has only prohibited sexual intercourse for menstruating women and nothing else. The verse starts off with "They ask you about menstruation", which further emphasizes that only Allah makes such prohibitions in the Qur'an, which is the message of the prophet. The prophetic prohibitions are the Quranic prohibitions since Allah is the One Who provides the answers. "They ask you about..., Say..." are frequent occurrences in the Qur'an. The reason pointed out in the verse for the prohibition of intercourse during menstruation is biological i.e. "it is harmful" and no spiritual indication is given.

I believe the Hadith that you quoted has no correlation with this verse.

I didnt write the hadith I quoted, it was written\compiled by Islamic 'scholars' as a reliable source of teachings of the Islamic prophet. If both teachings do not correlate, it is not my making, which also shows that the Quran can always be used to nullify any inconsisteny in the hadith.

So on the 90 feet tall of adam, as taught in the hadith, cannot be trusted as a truth since many hadith teachings contradict the quran.

Empiree: hehehe how do you differentiate fabricated ahadith from authentic ones?. Are you Islamic scholar now?. You get so obsessed with muslims now.

I do take proteins as needed. So i am 7 foot now . God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will add more later

www.nairaland.com/1501204/how-true-narrations-sahih-bukhari

The link pasted above confirms the unreliability of the hadith as a source of Islamic theology. The thread was created by your fellow muslim to debunk some teachings in the hadith, especially the ones that are harmful to the person of mohammed.

So if some hadith are regarded 'fabricated', it seems hadith is not a reliable source of information. And remember, the hadith used by the shia muslims is different from the ones used by the sunnis. And both sects do no agree completely on so many theological issues contained in the hadith.

Another cave-man lecture passed down as truth:

In the morning wash your nose from
inside as Satan urinates and defecates inside while spending the night there. Otherwise you will have runny nose all day besides possible nose infections.
(Hadith, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 516)

@ Empire, these are also Islamic truth:

They question thee (O Muhammad) concerning menstruation. Say: It is an
illness. (Bukhari Volume 7, Book 71, Number 646) Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet used to treat some of his wives by passing his
right hand over the place of illness. (Bukhari Volume 1, Book 6, Number 298)

This is ridiculous. Men passing a hand over menstruating women does not stop the course of nature, nor is
menstruation an illness. How to clean yourself after defecating, the Islamic way Apostle of God used to clean himself after defecation using only odd number of stones. That is the sunna (examples set by Muhammad).(Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 163).

You can verify the hadiths I posted above for authentication and see how reasonable Islamic truth sounds.

Empiree: I know right. They love islam theology. They know it's the truth but there is a dark spot somewhere in their heart preventing them. Example are those Atheists fellas.

Do you like the 'truth' below:

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the womenand said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?"
He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to
the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true
that a woman can neither pray nor fastduring her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion." (Sahih Bukhari 1:6:301) Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: The Prophet
said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The
women said, "Yes." He said, "This is
because of the deficiency of a woman's mind." (Sahih Bukhari 3:48:826)

Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported: I observed prayer with the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) on the 'Id day. He commenced with prayer before the sermon without Adhan and Iqama. Hethen stood up leaning on Bilal, and he commanded (them) to be on guard(against evil for the sake of) Allah, andhe exhorted (them) on obedience to Him, and he preached to the people and admonished them. He then walked on till he came to the women and preached to them and admonished them, and asked them to give alms, for most of them are the fuel for Hell. A woman having a dark spot on the cheek stood up and said: Why is it so, Messenger of Allah? He said: For you grumble often and show ingratitude to your spouse. And then they began to give alms out of their ornaments such a their earrings and rings which they threw on to the cloth of Bilal. (Sahih Muslim 4:1926)

[Muhammad said]: O womenfolk, you should give charity and ask much forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell. A wise lady among them said: Why is it, Messenger of Allah, that our folk is in bulkin Hell? Upon this the Holy Prophet observed: You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. I have seen none lacking in common sense and failing in religion but (at the same time) robbing
the wisdom of the wise, besides you.
Upon this the woman remarked: What iswrong with our common sense and with religion? He (the Holy Prophet) observed: Your lack of common sense (can be well judged from the fact) that the evidence
of two women is equal to one man, that is a proof of the lack of common sense. (Sahih Muslim, Abdul Hamid Siddiqi, tr., Number 142.)

The Prophet (the blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) said: "Isn’t the
witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said: "Yes." He said: "This is because of the deficiency of her mind." Sahih Al-Bukhari, Dr. Muhammad Matraji, tr. (New Delhi: Islamic Book Service, 2002), Number 2658.

[Muhammad said], "O women! Give to
charity, for I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-Fire were women." The women asked, "O Allah’s Apostle! What is the reason for it?" He said: "O women! You curse frequently, and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. O women, some of you can lead a cautious man astray." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Dr. Muhammad Matraji, tr. (New Delhi: Islamic Book Service, 2002), Number 1462.)

The Prophet (the blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) said: "I saw paradise and stretched my hands towards a bunch (of its fruits) and had I taken it, you would have eaten from it as long as the world remains. I also saw the Hell-fire and I had never seen such a horrible sight. I saw that most of the inhabitants were women." The people asked: "O Allah’s Apostle! Why is it so?" The Prophet (the blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) said: "Because of their
ungratefulness." It was asked whether they are ungrateful to Allah. The Prophet (the blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) said: "They are ungrateful to their companions of life (husbands) and ungrateful to good deeds." (Sahih Al- Bukhari, Dr. Muhammad Matraji, tr. (New Delhi: Islamic Book Service, 2002),
Number 1052.

[Muhammad said], "O women! Give to charity, for I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-Fire were women." The women asked, "O Allah’s Apostle! What is the reason for it?" He
said: "O women! You curse frequently,
and are ungrateful to your husbands. I
have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. O women, some of you can lead a cautious man astray." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Dr. Muhammad Matraji, tr. (New Delhi: Islamic Book Service, 2002), Number 1462.)

tbaba1234: 90% of this guy's topics are about Islam or muslims... Talk about obsession..

I reason objectively and not dogmatic following a folklore told by an illiterate cave-man more than 1450 years ago. If I see any objection to the cave-man (mohammedan) lecture, I will create a thread to enlighten the gullible, who seemingly have a better intellectual capacity than the illiterate cave-man but will blindly follow him as a prophet (which he is not).

Empiree: Chei, true2god will be 60 cubits tall in afterlife. Isnt that wonderful? How tall are you now, 5'5?

The only escape route you muslims have on the issue of Adam being 90 feet tall was your fallacious claim, using a fabricated hadith, that he (Adam) was 90 feet tall, only in Islamic paradise, knowing fully well there could never be any form of human authentication to such lies. Keep deceiving yourself that you will be 90 feet tall when you die, you better start taking enough protein now to gain a reasonable size\height now, if you are not more than 23 years.

tbaba1234: I will like you to explain this verse too:

New International Version
"Yet I destroyed the Amorites before them, though they were tall as the cedars and strong as the oaks. I destroyed their fruit above and their roots below.(Amos 2:9)

Malvis had already responded to you, check his response.

tbaba1234: You mean the same hadith that say Adam was 60 cubits tall in the heavens?

Adam’s height was 60 cubits in the Paradise according to the hadith and it does not say anything about his height after he landed on this planet.

Scholars like Imam Abu al-‘Abbas al-Qurtubi (died, 1273) and lately Shaykh Anwar Shah al-Kashmiri support this position.

This is an explanation from a scholar:

sixty cubits was the height of Adam in the Paradise and when he fell from it he became short and to this day of ours his children have not ceased to be on almost the same (short) height. And they will return to their original height when they go back to Paradise

- Mufti Taqi Usmani (Usmani, Muhammad Taqi, Takmila Fath al-Mulhim, Vol.6, p.158)

based on the hadith.

In Jannah, we will be that big.

And Allah knows best.

The hadith:

Allah's Apostle said, "The first group of people who will enter Paradise, will be glittering like the full moon and those who will follow them, will glitter like the most brilliant star in the sky. They will not urinate, relieve nature, spit, or have any nasal secretions. Their combs will be of gold, and their sweat will smell like musk. The aloes-wood will be used in their centers. Their wives will be houris. All of them will look alike and will resemble their father Adam (in statute), sixty cubits tall in the heavens."


(Sahih Bukhari, Book 55 Hadith 544)

God created Adam on earth and not in heaven, the concept of Adam being created in heaven is only supported by hadith which many Islamic 'scholars' had claimed that many of its contents are fabricated and never authentic. If some hadiths had been claimed to be fabricated, how can you confirm that the Islamic theology of Adam being 90feet tall is not among the fabricated hadith since there is not any proof (aside the hadith) that any mammal had been up to 30 feet tall let alone human.

The bible accounts is that Adam was created on earth (and not in heaven) and was placed in the garden of eden, till he fell into temptation, hence was banished from the garden and was cursed such that 'through pain and toil he will eat' and the ground (earthly soil) was also cursed. So my question to you is this, did Adam disobeyed God his heaven or earth?

Rilwayne001: Despite the fact that you claimed to be more intelligent, you couldnt comprehend the simple explanation addressed to you so far on this thread. Even a primary school pupil would comprehend the explanation, but your hatred for islam has blinded you, better still it has blocked your brain from understanding the explanation.

That was why i said you have to shine your brain, stop hating, wake up from your delusions and stop creating threads to attack islam, you cant just come here and display your ignorance when you know you will never understand explanation on them.

He already told you that the Quran tells us, we will have a different form in paradise and the hadith give us one of the feature. i wonder what is soo hard to understand here.

I wont waste my official time on you. I am too busy for that. Regards,

Rilwayne001: Dont mind that dulllard jare

I am more intelligent than you think, no boast. I am not sure you will do better if both of us are place on the same academic pedastal.

We are sharing ideas and equally arguing theological case that has no scientific backing whatsoever. Be civil when dealing with an anonymous, I have had the opportunity to hook-up with a nairalander and share business ideas.

Thank you!

All responses so far had only been from Islamic sources without any external collaboration.

It is quite interesting that muslims do not believe in evolution (nor do I), in whatever form, but are quick to accept a human-to-human evolution with respect to the size of Adam. This just like what we watch in fantsasy movies, fictional stories.

In the next couple of minutes I will do a more robust response, presently meeting deadline on task in the office.

tbaba1234: The Quran makes it clear that we will be new creatures in paradise.

You never answered my questiom. I asked if there is any other source, aside the quran, that supported quranic claim of Adam's 90 feet tall.

tbaba1234: You mean the same hadith that say Adam was 60 cubits tall in the heavens?

Adam’s height was 60 cubits in the Paradise according to the hadith and it does not say anything about his height after he landed on this planet.

Scholars like Imam Abu al-‘Abbas al-Qurtubi (died, 1273) and lately Shaykh Anwar Shah al-Kashmiri support this position.

This is an explanation from a scholar:

sixty cubits was the height of Adam in the Paradise and when he fell from it he became short and to this day of ours his children have not ceased to be on almost the same (short) height. And they will return to their original height when they go back to Paradise

- Mufti Taqi Usmani (Usmani, Muhammad Taqi, Takmila Fath al-Mulhim, Vol.6, p.158)

based on the hadith.

In Jannah, we will be that big.

And Allah knows best.

The hadith:

Allah's Apostle said, "The first group of people who will enter Paradise, will be glittering like the full moon and those who will follow them, will glitter like the most brilliant star in the sky. They will not urinate, relieve nature, spit, or have any nasal secretions. Their combs will be of gold, and their sweat will smell like musk. The aloes-wood will be used in their centers. Their wives will be houris. All of them will look alike and will resemble their father Adam (in statute), sixty cubits tall in the heavens."


(Sahih Bukhari, Book 55 Hadith 544)

Does any other source, aside the hadith, confirm this story?

Empiree: @ true2god CloudStar, let me suggest to you guys. I think you should open separate threads on

[color=#000099]Salat,
Aisha's so called 6 yr old marriage and
Adam(60 cubits)
This thread has long derailed. I dislike that. And the reason you derailed it is because you refused to answer questions about Israel's so called God given Land. So i hesitate to comment here. Please open threads together on those subjects that you having difficulties with. You will be dealt with there. I am still following this thread's original Op as to get updates since the event is yet over. I think tomorrow or so we hoping hostilities will cease for a while in the region.

I hesitate to respond to your comments sometimes because from your replies show that either you don't read my posts or don't understand it. That's troubling for me cus i am not going to go bak n fot over same qns. Let's put this to rest and stay on Op. Please open separate threads for your other concerns. Thank you.

To briefly answer your last post, I think you missing the point all the while. Quran revelation predates modern science discoveries. Just bcus scientists haven't discover some things doesn't mean Quran wrong. This is the question i posted to you earlier but you didnt understand it. But this your last post suggests to me that you proved my point. I think you need to put these pieces together.

Let me remind you what i asked earlier. You or cloudstar claim a man could not have been 60cubits tall. According to CloudStar it was impossible. And I asked if Scientists have discovered and proved Quran allegation to be correct, that Adam(as) was 90 feet tall you would have believed it. And i said the reason you would believe it is bcus of science (discovery). Something Quran already proven some 1400yrs ago. Your last post proves my point.

www.nairaland.com/1862340/adams-60-cubit-height-claim

Another thread has been created to discuss the Adam 60 cubic height.

Many muslims do not know that their hadith claimed that Adam was 60 cubic tall. However few muslims that had come accross that claim had spent considerable time and energy trying to proove the possibility of Adam being that tall as at the time he was created.

I would like muslims to proove, using facts aside quran and hadith, that their is a 100% possibility that Adam was that tall, as claimed by the hadith and the koran. This will help clear-up this gray area and also justify the compatibility of the quran\hadith with modern science.

cloudstar: Muslims honestly need to be objective if they want to put things in perspective. However, most of them have traded their common sense forthe account of a 7th century illiterate.

It is only in the Islamic 'world' that a 7th century illiterate is the greatest teacher, professor, adviser, strategist and scientist of all mankind.

No wonder muslims countries are the most backward countries, I mean technologicallly and financially poor.

Empiree: Definition of Hadith: sayings of prophet Muhammad (saw). Technically, Hadith about Aisha(r) is not saying of the prophet(s). Rather, sayings attributed to Aisha(r). Besides. I see you guys as jealous. Any wonder you troll Islam but don't accept it?. That alone is evidence against you. I better leave you to keep screaming all you want. Good day.

Whats your point, that the hadith on aisha is 'fabricated' while the hadith on mohammed is authentic? Let me get your point.

I don't\won't accept Islam because your hadith told me that Adam was 60 cubic tall without any scientific or archaelogical proof. The oldest human fossil discovered, in Africa, is estimated to be 20,000 years old with the same size and shape of current human skeletal composition.

The biggest mammal fossil discovery is dinosours whose skeletal compostion, when erected, is less than 30 cubic tall. If, at anytime, some human were 60 cubic tall, we would hav seen, at least one fossil, to justify that claim. But for now, none.

We are here to learn and share ideas, and not to be dogmatic. God gives us brain to think and ask questions for clarifications. If a book is written 1450 years ago that has to do with human anatomy, as in the case of Adam, the current technological sophistication in archaelogy and geo-informatics should give us a clue and not completely refute such claims as false.

I would rather accept a tested and proven science, on a subject matter, than a contradictory religious dogma progated by one man who claimed divine inspiration from 'angel gabriel'.

Empiree: STOP WASTING MY TIME , PLEASE....

Then start to be logical and stop believing in a cave-man (mohammedan) lecture that has no relevance in modern life of the 21st century.

Empiree: Responding to Adam(as)'s height bruahaha, I am not going to get involved in religious e-war over this. It's very simple. My first question is if scientists had come to the same conclusion that Adam(as) was 90 feet tall (60 cubits), would you have believed it?.

Now, i was wondering about the age of earth some months back. I researched scientific "evidence" to get clue. Scientists have said that the age of earth is 4.54 billion years old. You would believe this isnt?. But what if Quran said the same thing woud you have rejected it claim?.

My question is if earth is 4.54 billion yrs old, isnt possible that Adam(as) could be 60 cubits as Quran claims?. 4.54 billion is no joke my brothers. That's way too long. Adam(as) was the first man on earth, why wouldnt he be that tall billions of years ago?. But in your preconceived notion, your limited intellectual capacity, the capacity that can not see beyond its limited underrstanding of reality, you concluded that it was not possible for a man to be that tall.

Would you have believed if scientists said Adam(as) was 90 feet tall, as they claim earth is 4.54 billion years old?.
http://www.google.com/#q=age+of+earth
http://answering-christianity.com/adam_90_feet_tall.htm

Your problem is HATE for Islam, Arabs and Muslims. You dont know Islam. If you do you would have been Muslims by now. If you approach Islam(Quran) with bias, hateful mind your chances of learning nothing is high.

I hate lies and not Islam\muslims.

Your points are conjecturals with a lot of what if, what if and what if, which implies that you are not sure of what you are talking about but wants to align with hadith's teachings that Adam was 60cubit tall. If you want to involve science on this matter you will only end up making a fool of yourself.

Let me take your hypothesis a bit serious. If the scientists say the earth is 4.5b yrs, does it also say that plants and human contrast over the years? Do you believe in homo-eretus evolution since you want to justify the fallacious Adam is 60cubic tall as being taught my mohammed?

Empiree: true2god and CloudStar, the fact is you are folks that already made up your mind. Why do you think i have to argue with you. Nothing we say will make sense to you. So what's the point. Scholars of Islam, past and present work on ahadith. They have tried hard to separate fabricated ahadith from authentic, from weak ones. Just because it's in Sahih does not mean Bukhari wrote it.

For instance, Jizya (tax) and Zakat (Arms giving) are permitted in Quran. But there is a famous authentic hadith that speak of the return of Jesus(as). In that hadith, it says Jizya will be abolished. This is false. Yet, it's within authentic hadith.

Fabricated ahadith are not those devoid of "common sense". Rather, their obvious contradiction of primary source of guidance, Qur'an. Qur'an is standard and protection guaranteed. But God did not promise to protect Hadith. Hadith is like Bible (mixed up of truth and falsehood, suspicious hearsays). But we can not avoid hadith. And you see, none can guide you guys except God Almighty.. So keep having fun.

You are talking nonsense, as usual. Since you claimed an hadith is fabricated, it is expected of you, as someone who knows the original from the fabricated one, to provide the original hadith for your argument to have any form of credibility. How do you expect me to take you serious when you are using 'fabricated' to deny an obvious facts in your hadith while your Islamic 'scholars' are desperately trying to justify the fact the Adam was 6cubit tall and the reasons it was appropriate for your prophet to marry a 6yr old girl.

Hadith is a good source of\for Islamic laws and customs, more than 80% of sharia laws are gotten from the hadith which hows its importance in Islmic theology. Why will hadith become 'useless' and the quran supreme anytime any inconsistency is raised in your hadith? You compare the bible with the hadith while your more than 90% of the content of ur quran was plagarized from the Bible.

I repeat, lies and hypocrisy are very compatible with Islam\muslims.

cloudstar: Ha - you will kill him oh! His response are the youtube links

The issue here is that any part of the hadith that runs contrary to common sense (adam being 60cubit tall) or civility (mohammed sleeping with a 9yr old) is termed 'fabricated'. However if you ask them to provide the 'non-fabricated' hadith, they wont.

That alone is hypocrisy.

Empiree: The above "hadith" is a fabricated hadith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw05XUx0CrM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUM1tBxF9hg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOhyhxOKI4E&list=FL0GR3AOFGVPiVLu3QxCro8A&index=64

Can you please provide the 'non-fabricated and authentic' hadith for the sake of this argument?

dozzybaba: Hahaha..Nwa aba. Na the 'job' we una give me i dey do o..

Nwanne, the good civil servant.

DoTheNeedful: Dont mind them. When Boko Haram bomb innocent people and shout "Allahu Akbar",these same hypocrites will say they are not muslims.

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