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Islam › Re: Islam And The Abuse Of The Girl Child? by true2god: 5:47pm On Aug 30, 2014
Zeinymira: Mtcheew.
It no use going in circle with you since u refused to use your head for what it is meant for.
6 years old of more than 1400 years ago is the same with today present 6 year old ba? Ok o I hear you
Society that will not accept child marriage won't accept it and we are not denying that.
There's no verse in the Quran that says you should marry a child. Gypsies in Europe marry as early as 9 buh no one is talking because it is their culture.
Don't quote me again!!
You will be quoted until you start reasoning as a 21st century man. I'm always in a state of shock when muslims are defending their prophet, who at 51, engaged a six year old child.

Thats barbaric and terrible! It's a child abuse to a sane mind.
Islam › Re: Christianity To Islam by true2god: 7:18am On Aug 30, 2014
cloudstar: One must be a lunatic to claim that the teaching in the Quran and Al-Hadiths are peaceful. Can there be peaceful Muslims? Yes! To be a peaceful Muslim means you don't interpret the jihad verses in the Quran and Hadiths literally.
A muslims is only peaceful when he found himself a minority in a place (like the US and Europe) but the same muslim man wil be violent towards non-muslims if he find himself in pakistan, sudan, iraq, iran, saudi arabia, egypt etc.

Mathematically and logically, the violence (or peaceful) tendency is a function of place.

V=f{p}.....if p>0
v=violence
p=place
Islam › Re: You by true2god: 6:44am On Aug 30, 2014
TheBigUrban2: Marrying your cousin is incestous.

It comes with the disadvantage of high risk of having a deformed offspring. embarassed
I have now confirmed why we have a lot of deformities and diseases among the muslim community in northern Nigeria and lot of unhealthy arabs (emotionally and physically).

In our Igbo culture, it is an incestious and unacceptable practice to marry one's cousin and I believe Yoruba culture also frowned at it.
Islam › Re: You by true2god: 6:41am On Aug 30, 2014
TheBigUrban2: Marrying your cousin is incestous.

It comes with the disadvantage of high risk of having a deformed offspring. embarassed
I have now confirmed why we have a lot of deformities and diseases among the muslim community in northern Nigeria and lot of unhealthy arabs (emotionally and physically).
Islam › Re: Islam And The Abuse Of The Girl Child? by true2god: 12:32am On Aug 30, 2014
AlBaqir: Imam Bukhari made a mathematical blunder concerning the age of Aisha. It has been proven above that Aisha was never 6years Old as recorded by Bukhari but 18years Old when her Father requested the holy prophet (peace be on her and his family) to marry her daughter.
Imam Bhukari made a mathematical blunder by telling the truth? You cant be serious. The same Imam Bhukari's hadith that is the most authentic, and which most muslims believe\use worldwide, is now a blunder because his writings exposed your prophet as a ped0phile.

So what your are telling us is that we should accept hadith that speaks favourably of your prophet (as authentic) and reject the ones that doesnt speak well of him (as fake). Thats is islamic logic in display.

I'd rather believe the authority of Imam bhukari in islamic jurispundence (as a reliable source of information) than yours.
Islam › Re: Science Supports Islamic History on Written Qur'an by true2god: 12:08pm On Aug 29, 2014
masseratti: don't mind him,a question I have for him is this,90% of prophets in the Koran are Jews not Arabs like Muhammed,why then do u think I should accept the veracity of the Koran from an Arab man who claimed God/Allah revealed all what he wrote to him than the Jewish torah,which is where the Old testament was written from?

Are you going to tell a story about me more than me?
99% of koranic prophets, except mohammed (who neither Jews nor xtains consider an upright guy, let alone prophet).
Islam › Re: Science Supports Islamic History on Written Qur'an by true2god: 12:03pm On Aug 29, 2014
AdekunleBalogun: Still doesn't changed the fact that Prophet Muhammad(saw) said he will be the last prophet on earth.
That is his personal opinion which is binding only to himself and pple who take him for a prophet (cos I take him for a warlord and selfish thief).

Read your own statement, ''prophet mohammed said he will be the last prophet on earth''.
Islam › Re: Islam And The Abuse Of The Girl Child? by true2god: 9:07am On Aug 29, 2014
AlBaqir: "AN OUTCRY - that the holy prophet married A'isha at the age of six and consummate the wedding at the age of nine. (Sahih Bukhari) A minorhuh

Some of this so-called 'authentic hadith' even quoted A'isha or her cousin Urwa that she was a minor who was still playing with doll when she married the holy prophet of Islam (peace be on him and his family). And in most cases she will sleep on the floor whilst playing with her doll.

Historical Fallacy!
Abubakr (A'isha's father) had Asma as his first child who was born 27years before Hijra. Aisha was the last born and history had it she was 10years younger to her eldest sister, Asma. (Sirah Ibn Hisham, Ibn Sa'd 'Tabaqat, Tarikh al-Tabari et al)

Asma died at the age of 100years in the 73rd year of Hijra. Meaning she was truly 27+years in the 1st year of Hijra. Same History however had it A'isha married the Prophet in the 2nd year of Hijra.

If Asma was 27years in the 1st year of Hijra, and was 10years older than Aisha and then A'isha got married to the holy prophet in the 2nd year of Hijra, how old was A'isha? 18years Old.
When muslims spend hours, days, months, years, and do countless 'researches', in order to defend the past deeds of their prophet, that is to tell an average person that that prophet has a case to answer or his ways were not upright.
Islam › Re: Islam And The Abuse Of The Girl Child? by true2god: 9:54pm On Aug 28, 2014
AbdH: Reasonable Muslims all over the world behave like Muslims and not like Arabs.
Arabs are more muslimic than any other muslims, they (arabs) represent the pure and true nature of Islam. A yoruba muslim can never be more muslimic than an arab muslims. Impossible!
Islam › Re: Islam And The Abuse Of The Girl Child? by true2god: 12:21pm On Aug 28, 2014
vedaxcool: Clean the log off your eyes,
What are you trying to justify? That it was praticed by some primitive and wicked pple justified what your prophet did.

Have you so debased your prophet such that you have to compare ethiopian child abuser with your pedophile prophet's lustful desires?

I see your point.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is This Arab (secular) Woman Speaking The Truth About Islam? by true2god: 11:59am On Aug 28, 2014
This lady is intelligent, thank God she is in the US, she would have been hanged for speaking out against Islam if she were to be in Egypt or saudi arabia.
Christianity Etc › Re: Truthman2012 - Quran: Surah 8:12 Is A Verse Of Terrorism by true2god:
truthman2012: Lo! You are unable to say and mention where there are Christian terrorists as at now. You were referring to people who acted in ignorance and are doing it no more. If muslims have repented the same way, there will be no more terrorism in the world again.

You cannot understand the difference between OT and NT and their relationship because you are not a citizen of the Kingdom. The truth remains Judaism is not the same as Christianity.
The west seem to have unlocked the secret of global security: KEEP THE ARAB-MUSLIMS ENGAGED IN INTERNAL WARS.

Ever since the states of Iran, Iraq, sudan, somalia, yemen, afghanistan, libya, etc are in the state of internal strife, the tendency for global terrorism had reduced drastically cos they hav to spend more time fighting themselves (no time to plan terrorist attacks on foreign countries).

It quite funny that muslims with spend time listing all the wars fought in the OT in order to prove a point. Israel had been a nation of war from time immemorial because they are surrounded by enemies (from the time of the babylonians, the assyrians and now the modern day mohammedans), they are always in conflict. Isreal was fighting, at that time, as a nation and judaism as a religion.

Modern Jews are peaceful compare to modern muslims\arabs, that is not to say the Jews are not aggressive to an extent. The Jews are fighting an existential war in the 20th and 21st century. First against hitler Germany(Hitler said and I quote, 'this Jews are sub-human parasites that must be destroyed') and now against arab-Islam (Ahmadinajab of Iran said and I qoute, 'Israel will\must be wiped out from the face of the earth').

Christianity came after Jesus christ. Nowhere in the bible or secular history was Jesus engaged in a war, commanded a war, loot caravans, kill people who opposed him, took and trade slaves, married an under-age girl, etc. But mohammed committed all these atrocities and a perfect examples to muslims. Even after his death, another round of war started on who will lead Islam which created the current sunni and shia crisis.

There had never been anytime in history that Islam was peaceful.
Islam › Re: Caliphate Declaration, Your Views by true2god: 5:51pm On Aug 24, 2014
cloudstar: usba

- yes, you need to be fixed grin

USBA = Universal Student of Baffuns Association. You will prove it by editing this post grin
Just make ur point and do not engage usba in his characteristic abuse. He usually resort to abuse and editing opponents' posts to deflect flow of argument.

Always make ur points, do not be swayed by their e-threats. We shall keep exposing the falsehood in Islam and her self-aclaimed prophet (mohammed).
Christianity Etc › Re: Truthman2012 - Quran: Surah 8:12 Is A Verse Of Terrorism by true2god: 5:47pm On Aug 23, 2014
truthman2012: Thank you my brother. God bless you.

It is true they don't have the military might to threaten the world, but am afraid of something: you know satan is a strategist. If he uses one strategy and fails, he will apply another. When he came to Eve he did not appear as an enemy. The Bible says he was subtle. The devil has attacked almost all the countries' economy and spared, to an extent, the Arabs. They are now trying to enter into many countries with their islamic banking to attract them to islam. Before you know it, they will institute islam. Were it not for a Christian as Nigeria's president, Nigeria would have been into it. But for how long will Christian rule Nigeria? God help us o!
The arabs have no viable economy, their economy is run only by oil revenue paid for, mostly by the west. The arabs, except their powerful elites, remain one of the least educated and poorest pple on earth, only a bit above the sub-sahara africa.

The arab\muslims export to the world is only mosques and terrorism, nothing more. The west, initially, didnt see the threat of arab\muslims migrations to their countries and the effect it will have on their culture, but now, most of their govt are more informed of the dangers of Islam to modern civilization, hence the setting-up of 'trojan horse' in the UK and europe and china to check-mate the negetive influnce of Islam on their pple. The Japanese gives no room for Islam at all.

Their excesses are being check-mated, as long as darkness cannot rule over light, Islam cannot rule the world. The western powers have already kept them busy in their home countries by encouraging them to keep fighting themselves so that they wont have time fighting the progressive and civilized world.
Christianity Etc › Re: Truthman2012 - Quran: Surah 8:12 Is A Verse Of Terrorism by true2god: 1:21pm On Aug 23, 2014
truthman2012: Serious expositions, very revealing.

The Bible says there is no PEACE with the WICKED. The word of God cannot be broken. Islam is a religion of PIECES, trying to tear the world into PIECES
Thank God they dont have the military might to threaten the world. The era of Jihadist invasion, the golden era of of Islamic conquest, imperalism and expansion, is long gone. They can only confirm their jihadism in their countries. Any attempt by any of the jihadist to declare a holy war against any non-muslims country, like Israel or europe, they will be seriosly flogged and beaten.

So they have to sing, 'ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE' so that no one will suspect their inate aggressive tendencies.
Christianity Etc › Re: Truthman2012 - Quran: Surah 8:12 Is A Verse Of Terrorism by true2god:
truthman2012: Good points.

The Yorubas are reasonable, peace-loving, and gentle race, who should not have accepted islam as it is against their nature. An average Yoruba person hates bloodshed. No wonder they are considered fake muslims. That is why they are hurt when you accuse islam of violence. The Arabs and their likes proud themselves in the fact that islam is violent, a machination of the devil to destroy the good people on earth.

Allah's plan to conquer the
world by force will not come to fruition in Jesus name.
The arabs are not complaining that their religion is filled with bloodletting, in fact they are proud of it as long as it is for the promotion of Islam. That is why you keep seeing sunnis killing shia (on a daily basis), in pakistan, baharain, yemen (even where shia are majority).

Ironically, the muslims kills fellow muslims more than the real 'infidels' (the xtains and the Jews) because of doctrinal variants. The ahmadiyyas (regarded as apostate muslims for accepting another prophet after mohammed) are killed daily in pakistan by the majority sunnis, the saudis are killings the minority shia in the eatern province, the saudis are financing the sunnis (Islamic state of levante) in iraq against the shia led govt of maliki in order to depose the govt and instal a sunni led govt. Iran, on the order hand are financing the shia-led govt against the Islamic state rebel.

Egypt on the other are battling against the muslim brotherhood, supporting Isreal against the shia-sponsored hamas by blocking the gaza stripe with order from the Israeli govt.

In lebanon, the islamic hizbolla is supporting the syrian govt to fight the syria rebel. In baharian, the saudis are financing the minority sunni community against the majority shia population.

Confusion everywhere in the heart of Islamic world in this 21st century. To deceive the gullible and uninformed, Islamic propagandist will pay international media to assist them sing the mantra: ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACEEEEEE!

Yeye dey smell.
Christianity Etc › Re: Truthman2012 - Quran: Surah 8:12 Is A Verse Of Terrorism by true2god: 7:10am On Aug 23, 2014
Islamic apologist will say: 'they are not true muslims', 'Islam is a religion of peace', 'quran says there are no compulsion in religion', 'it is the CIA that is responsible for the Islamic suicide bombing', 'the suicide bombers are mossad agents', 'shia and sunnis are living peacefully', 'only few muslims are trying to paint Islam bad', 'the western media is bias against Islam', 'Islam is the fastest growing religion in the whole world despite the Islamic crisis', 'they are Islamaphobe' and finally 'allah knows best'.

While the real muslims will say: 'kill all the infidels until evryone worship non but allah and accept mohammed as prophet', 'curse are the christians and the Jews for attributing patners to allah', 'behead anyone that insult the prophet', 'Islam will rule the world', 'sharia will be established in evry country on the planet', 'fight for the cause of allah', 'democracy and freedom is evil'.

NL muslims are mostly naturally gentle yoruba muslims whose Islamic faith are considered fake judging by International Islamic standard.
Christianity Etc › Re: Truthman2012 - Quran: Surah 8:12 Is A Verse Of Terrorism by true2god: 6:51am On Aug 23, 2014
tintingz: Are those Christian terrorist fighting crusade or not?
This is what we call a religion of peace:

Shia militia opens fire on Sunni
mosque in eastern Iraq, killing at least
73 people as Islamic State violence
continues August 22, 2014 8:40AM ET At least 73 people were killed when a
suicide bomber broke into an Iraqi
Sunni mosque and a Shia Muslim
militia opened fire inside in the
country's eastern Diyala province on
Friday, Iraqi security sources said. An army officer and a police officer
said a suicide bomber first broke into
the Musab bin Omair Mosque in Imam
Wais village in Diyala province, some
75 miles northeast of Baghdad,
detonating his explosives before gunmen rushed in and opened fire on
worshippers. The officials said that fighters with
the Islamic State group have been
trying to convince members of two
prominent local Sunni tribes — the
Oal-Waisi and al-Jabour — to join
them, but they have thus far refused. Two medical officials confirmed the
casualty figures. All of them spoke on
the condition of anonymity because
they are not authorized to brief the
media. The towns of Jalula and al-Saadiyah
have recently fallen to the Islamic
State group but Imam Wais is thus far
in government control. Such sectarian
violence could hurt efforts by Iraq's new Shia prime minister, moderate
Haider al-Abadi, to form a government that can unite Iraqis
against Islamic State, the Sunni fighters who have seized large parts of the country. The crisis has
worsened since June as the group
swept through new towns in the
north, killing dozens of people and
displacing hundreds of thousands,
mainly members of the minority Christian and Yazidi religious
communities. Ambulances transported the bodies to
the town of Baquba, the main town in
Diyala province, where Iranian-
trained Shia militias are powerful and
act with impunity. Attacks on mosques are acutely
sensitive and have in the past
unleashed a deadly series of revenge
killings and counter attacks in
Iraq, where violence has returned to the levels of 2006 and 2007, the peak of a sectarian civil war. Iraqi Shia militia forces executed 15
Sunni Muslims and then hung them
from electricity poles in a public
square in Baquba in July, police said. Diyala police officials told Reuters
they had provided Shia militias with
names for hit lists so that suspected
members of Islamic State could be
tracked and executed.
america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/8/22/iraq-mosque-shooting.html
Christianity Etc › Re: Truthman2012 - Quran: Surah 8:12 Is A Verse Of Terrorism by true2god: 3:22pm On Aug 22, 2014
Emusan: Let's look at the construction method of the sentence in the above sura by paying close attention to the COLOR part.

How many angels reveal Qur'an?
because many angels were mentioned in this surah.

Who is talking here?
Could it be Muhammad? I guess not because had it been it's Muhammad the he won't use the phrase ("Thy sustainer" )

Could it be Angel Gabriel (though many angels were mentioned)?
Absolutely not, because No angel can command another angel.

So who is talking?
Allah is the one talking.
But why would Allah be shifting from first person pronouns (I, me) to third person pronouns (His, He)
Why would Allah that suppose to be the one talking still referring to another person (Lo! Thy sustainer...)?

This type of inappropriate sentence construction full the Holy book of Allah.

the same thing problem occurs in the below surah.



Here we see the speaker addressing GOD and latter shifted to third person pronouns HE.




Who is reading above surah always and couldn't sit down to ask himself simple question about simple English of the Holy Qur'an this question is for you.


What grade will you give Allah for Its English composition if you're an English teacher?
You must be an english major to have spotted out all these textual confusions inherent in the quran, sometimes I find it hard to imagine how an average person can read the quran and be able to join the pieces together. That is why we have Islamic 'scholars', all having a separate interpretation to an ordinary sentence in the quran. Atimes the grand mufti has to give a final personal verdict as a universal interpretation to a single sentence in the quran.

Thats terrible for a holy book meant to be understood by a lay-man on the street.
Christianity Etc › Re: Truthman2012 - Quran: Surah 8:12 Is A Verse Of Terrorism by true2god: 7:02am On Aug 22, 2014
truthman2012: @OP

You wrongly interpreted the verses of the bible you quoted. What Jesus meant was not a command or encouragement to draw swords against any people. What he meant was that accepting and preaching the Gospel will make people to draw swords agains the believers. That was exactly what happened to the believers.

James was beheaded, Stephen stoned to death, Peter killed and even Paul. Even today, Christians are killed for their faith.

Many Christian converts have been disowned and sent away by their parents for receiving the Gospel.

But today there are various islamic militants spread over the world carrying the quran with them. I am yet to hear of Christian militants fighting with bible in their hands

Who is fighting with today's muslims before killing and bombing innocent souls?
All Islamic terrorists, boko haram, al-shabab, hizbollah, and current syrian rebels, shout 'allahu akbar' before carrying out their attacks, beheading and killings. I have never heard or seen any attacker shouting 'HALLELUYA' before killing him victim.
Islam › Re: Adam's 60 Cubit Height Claim: Fact Or Theological Error by true2god(op): 9:34pm On Aug 21, 2014
AbdH: Really? Was it the holy spirit that inspired this message or you just gave it out of your own wisdom? How far can the eyes see for Jesus to have seen the whole earth from the top of a mountain?

Even if Jesus A.S had telescopes for eyes, there is no way he could have seen the whole earth from the top of a mountain.
While I prepare a rubost response, you can assist with this:

Answer the question, are there 100
grains on a spike of corn? If you cant
answer the question, confirm (with proof), that early men, or immediate generation after adam, are 90 feet tall (or something close) as taught in the hadith.
Islam › Re: Adam's 60 Cubit Height Claim: Fact Or Theological Error by true2god(op): 6:02pm On Aug 21, 2014
Rilwayne001: grin grin ^^ this guy ehn..grin grin
Answer the question, are there 100 grains on a spike of corn? If you cant answer the question, confirm (with proof), that early men, or immediate generation after adam, are 90 feet tall (or something close) as taught in the hadith.
Islam › Re: Adam's 60 Cubit Height Claim: Fact Or Theological Error by true2god(op): 5:12pm On Aug 21, 2014
vedaxcool: @bold
https://i.imgur.com/dxwpf7p.gif

How would any adult think like this? if I get you right so meanthe world was so poorly developed that a certain mountain was high enough for satan to carry Jesus to and show all of earths kingdom in its splendor? This is shocking, you see why I call pseudo scientist and advice you stick to convincing your flock on the importance of paying their tithes

One last question where is this mountain?
You are yet to give me any proof, even very slightly, that Adam (or any animal) was 90 feet tall. You never give me any proof that early men were 90 feet, 80 feet, 70 feet,......15 feet or even 13 feet tall, aside from the fairy-tale painted in\by the hadith that muslims are even finding difficult to defend.


surah 2:261:
The example of those who spend their wealth in the way of Allah is like a seed [of grain] which grows seven spikes; in each spike is a hundred grains. And Allah multiplies [His reward] for whom He wills. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.
Can you please confirm if there are 100 grains for each spike of corn as contained in the above?

If you cant, does that mean that allah does not understand the number of grain in a spike of corn or confused?
Islam › Re: Adam's 60 Cubit Height Claim: Fact Or Theological Error by true2god(op): 1:37pm On Aug 21, 2014
surah 2:261:
The example of those who spend their wealth in the way of Allah is like a seed [of grain] which grows seven spikes; in each spike is a hundred grains. And Allah multiplies [His reward] for whom He wills. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.

Can any muslim confirm if there are 100 grains for each spike of corn as contained in the above?
Islam › Re: Adam's 60 Cubit Height Claim: Fact Or Theological Error by true2god(op): 12:59pm On Aug 21, 2014
vedaxcool: Mathew 4:8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”

Please where is this very high mountain that I can see all of the kingdoms of the world in their splendor?

Maybe you should think out of the box, since it is entrepreneurship u are practicing . . . grin grin grin
The world, as at 2000yrs ago was not as developed as it is now. You can stand on a highest cliff and have a widest view of the earth. The writer of matthew is painting a picture here, and that is the glory of the world, which was shown to Jesus and to be given him as a gift, if only he bow down and worship the devil.

I know you are being sarcastic here, the bible had already made it clear that the earth is circullar and hanged on nothing (i.e on the space) and I have given you the bible verses that supports that claim.
Islam › Re: Adam's 60 Cubit Height Claim: Fact Or Theological Error by true2god(op): 5:38am On Aug 21, 2014
golpen: the arabic word used in those verses means ground (earth) which is different from that used for planet earth..please follow simple explanations.

north, east, west and south have never been refered to as corners at any time. it is just your own manipulative mind that is thinking that way...they have been refered to as points. points of directions, not corners!

I know you now know and I understand how very difficult to accept a fault in what you have held so sacred all this while, but you have to face it brother. I'm not in for arguments again please...I'll just encourage you to make your findings and seek the truth...
I read the verse you gave me and what i read is that the earth is spread out. If you want me to believe that the quran was talkin about the ground (which is not true), is the groung actually spread out like bed as described in the quran? We all know that the earth surface is never smoothened like a bed, my little knowledge of geography is that there is an average of 4meter slope for every 1km. So the quranic concept that the world is 'spread out' is completely false.


The quran also said the moon and the sun are joined together in the verses below:

So when vision is dazzled. surah 75:8

And the moon darkens. surah 75:9

And the sun and the moon are joined, surah 75:10

Had there been anytime the moon and the sun are joined together or is this in agreement with modern science?
Islam › Re: Adam's 60 Cubit Height Claim: Fact Or Theological Error by true2god(op): 11:18pm On Aug 20, 2014
golpen: true2god pls now...im laughing seriously here ...when did cardinal points become corners? hehehehehe!
for your info, mr geographer, the four cardinal points are not even points as in concrete points. they are mere directions, oh brpther. pls be sound!

I've explained that verse you're quoting...don't bring it uo again if you can't debunk it
Muslims 'egg shape' description is a new infusion into the quran which is subject to scholarly debate among modern-day muslims. Several verses of the quran described the earth as being spread out like bed (or even rug) and I can show you many surah that attest to that. If more than 30 verses of the quran said the earth is spread out, what else do you want me to believe?

The bible, as I said earlier, talked about the 4 corners of the earth. So if I may ask, are the north, east, west and the south no more the 4 corners of the earth? Please define your concept of '4 corners of the earth' so that we can learn. What is the difference bw 4 corners of the world and 4 directions of the world?

Remember, when the bible wrote '4 corners of the world', the modern compass is not yet available for modern navigation.
Islam › Re: Adam's 60 Cubit Height Claim: Fact Or Theological Error by true2god(op): 10:14pm On Aug 20, 2014
golpen: you see, my friend...when you intentionally turn your heart away from the truth, your mind also goes somewhere else.

'the earth' as quoted in that verse you are talking of is not talking of the planet earth, but the soily earth...to make you understand better, just incase..you sha know' ground' , that's what ALLAH is talking about. and when HE says HE is a wonderful spreader, yes HE is.

the Quran says the planet earth is egg shaped, in surah 79 verse 30 , which is the most correct' description pf the earth as a planet.

the bible says the planet earth has four corners. stop arguing! check isaiah 11 vs 12 , revelation 7 vs 1 , daniel 4vs11.
I dont think you are familiar with basic geography. The earth is divided into 4 cardinal corners, the NORTH, the EAST, the WEST, and the SOUTH. These are 4 corners of the earth. The biblical verses you quoted are consistent with modern geography with respect to earthly segmentation.

Surah 88:17-20 says the earth is spread out. Many verses of the quran supported the fact that the earth is spread out.
Islam › Re: Adam's 60 Cubit Height Claim: Fact Or Theological Error by true2god(op): 9:34pm On Aug 20, 2014
golpen: and how does this say that the shape of the earth is flat? .. you know you're quoting out of context.
Allah said he has spead out the earth. Allah compare the earth with a bed. Is a bed flat or circullar?
Islam › Re: Adam's 60 Cubit Height Claim: Fact Or Theological Error by true2god(op): 9:30pm On Aug 20, 2014
vedaxcool: How does this explains away the fact that the bible in the new testament stated explicitly that satan carried Jesus to the highest point on earth and showed him all of earth's kingdom in its splendour, something impossible in spherical earth but possible on a flat earth. And don't tell the author of job = author of luke? You make me laugh grin grin . Anyway has anyone notice our pseudo scientist duplicity when it comes to the OT and NT, when murder, rape etc happens they say oh well it is OT it happened long ago and the NT abolished the OT, but when NT pops out a scientific anamoly they rush back and use the OT to abolish the NT.
Its good, for the first time, you reason out of the box, but bible didnt say they were stationary while Jesus was being showed the earthly kindly, nor was the moountian they were was mentioned. The simple explanation to that verse was that the devil tempted Jesus with earthly riches for Jesus to worship him. This does not nullify the the fact that the book of Isaiah and Job, written thousands of years before the koran, confirmed that the earth is circullar and hanged in a space.

Mr, can you please show me quranic verse that confirmed that the earth is circular or hanged on nothing (as explained in the book of job). The last time i check, the koran says allah spread out the out and created mountians, streams and rivers etc on it. The koran thought the earth of be flat!

You can proove otherwise.
Islam › Re: Adam's 60 Cubit Height Claim: Fact Or Theological Error by true2god(op): 9:17pm On Aug 20, 2014
golpen: you pick anyone you feel you can try and we discuss it better.
Initiate one.
Islam › Re: Adam's 60 Cubit Height Claim: Fact Or Theological Error by true2god(op): 9:16pm On Aug 20, 2014
vedaxcool: How does this explains away the fact that the bible in the new testament stated explicitly that satan carried Jesus to the highest point on earth and showed him all of earth's kingdom in its splendour, something impossible in spherical earth but possible on a flat earth. And don't tell the author of job = author of luke? You make me laugh grin grin . Anyway has anyone notice our pseudo scientist duplicity when it comes to the OT and NT, when murder, rape etc happens they say oh well it is OT it happened long ago and the NT abolished the OT, but when NT pops out a scientific anamoly they rush back and use the OT to abolish the NT.
These are what koranic allah said about the earth:

Qur’an 20:53 Who has made earth for you like a bed (spread out); and has opened roads (ways and paths) for you therein, and has sent down water (rain) from the sky. And We have brought forth with it various kinds of vegetation. quran 20.53 Jalalyn here also conveys the meaning of a flat earth as a bed: He is, the One Who made for you, as well as [for] all creatures, the earth a cradle, a bed, and threaded, facilitated, for you therein ways, roads, and sent down from the heaven water, rain. God, exalted be He, says, as a complement to Moses’s description of Him and as an address to the people of Mecca: and therewith We brought forth various kinds, species, of plants (shattā, ‘various’, adjectivally qualifies azwājan, ‘kinds’), in other words, [plants] of different colours, flavours and [different] in other ways (shattā is the plural of shatīt, similar [in pattern] to marīd, [plural] mardā, as [may be used] in [a phrase like] shatta al-amr, ‘the affair has become divided’). Qur’an 50:7 And the earth! We have spread it out, and set thereon mountains standing firm, and have produced therein every kind of lovely growth (plants). quran 50.7 Here is what Jalalyn says about this verse: And the earth (wa’l-arda, is a supplement to the position of the words ilā l-samā’i, ‘at the heaven’), how, We have spread it out, [how] We have rolled it across the face of the water, and cast in it firm mountains, to fix it in place, and caused every delightful kind, [every delightful] specimen, causing delight by its [very] beauty, to grow in it, Qur’an 51:48 And We have spread out the earth: how Excellent spreader (thereof) are We!

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