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Zeinymira: Mtcheew.You will be quoted until you start reasoning as a 21st century man. I'm always in a state of shock when muslims are defending their prophet, who at 51, engaged a six year old child. Thats barbaric and terrible! It's a child abuse to a sane mind. |
cloudstar: One must be a lunatic to claim that the teaching in the Quran and Al-Hadiths are peaceful. Can there be peaceful Muslims? Yes! To be a peaceful Muslim means you don't interpret the jihad verses in the Quran and Hadiths literally.A muslims is only peaceful when he found himself a minority in a place (like the US and Europe) but the same muslim man wil be violent towards non-muslims if he find himself in pakistan, sudan, iraq, iran, saudi arabia, egypt etc. Mathematically and logically, the violence (or peaceful) tendency is a function of place. V=f{p}.....if p>0 v=violence p=place |
TheBigUrban2: Marrying your cousin is incestous.I have now confirmed why we have a lot of deformities and diseases among the muslim community in northern Nigeria and lot of unhealthy arabs (emotionally and physically). In our Igbo culture, it is an incestious and unacceptable practice to marry one's cousin and I believe Yoruba culture also frowned at it. |
TheBigUrban2: Marrying your cousin is incestous.I have now confirmed why we have a lot of deformities and diseases among the muslim community in northern Nigeria and lot of unhealthy arabs (emotionally and physically). |
AlBaqir: Imam Bukhari made a mathematical blunder concerning the age of Aisha. It has been proven above that Aisha was never 6years Old as recorded by Bukhari but 18years Old when her Father requested the holy prophet (peace be on her and his family) to marry her daughter.Imam Bhukari made a mathematical blunder by telling the truth? You cant be serious. The same Imam Bhukari's hadith that is the most authentic, and which most muslims believe\use worldwide, is now a blunder because his writings exposed your prophet as a ped0phile. So what your are telling us is that we should accept hadith that speaks favourably of your prophet (as authentic) and reject the ones that doesnt speak well of him (as fake). Thats is islamic logic in display. I'd rather believe the authority of Imam bhukari in islamic jurispundence (as a reliable source of information) than yours. |
masseratti: don't mind him,a question I have for him is this,90% of prophets in the Koran are Jews not Arabs like Muhammed,why then do u think I should accept the veracity of the Koran from an Arab man who claimed God/Allah revealed all what he wrote to him than the Jewish torah,which is where the Old testament was written from?99% of koranic prophets, except mohammed (who neither Jews nor xtains consider an upright guy, let alone prophet). |
AdekunleBalogun: Still doesn't changed the fact that Prophet Muhammad(saw) said he will be the last prophet on earth.That is his personal opinion which is binding only to himself and pple who take him for a prophet (cos I take him for a warlord and selfish thief). Read your own statement, ''prophet mohammed said he will be the last prophet on earth''. |
AlBaqir: "AN OUTCRY - that the holy prophet married A'isha at the age of six and consummate the wedding at the age of nine. (Sahih Bukhari) A minorWhen muslims spend hours, days, months, years, and do countless 'researches', in order to defend the past deeds of their prophet, that is to tell an average person that that prophet has a case to answer or his ways were not upright. |
AbdH: Reasonable Muslims all over the world behave like Muslims and not like Arabs.Arabs are more muslimic than any other muslims, they (arabs) represent the pure and true nature of Islam. A yoruba muslim can never be more muslimic than an arab muslims. Impossible! |
vedaxcool: Clean the log off your eyes,What are you trying to justify? That it was praticed by some primitive and wicked pple justified what your prophet did. Have you so debased your prophet such that you have to compare ethiopian child abuser with your pedophile prophet's lustful desires? I see your point. |
This lady is intelligent, thank God she is in the US, she would have been hanged for speaking out against Islam if she were to be in Egypt or saudi arabia. |
truthman2012: Lo! You are unable to say and mention where there are Christian terrorists as at now. You were referring to people who acted in ignorance and are doing it no more. If muslims have repented the same way, there will be no more terrorism in the world again.The west seem to have unlocked the secret of global security: KEEP THE ARAB-MUSLIMS ENGAGED IN INTERNAL WARS. Ever since the states of Iran, Iraq, sudan, somalia, yemen, afghanistan, libya, etc are in the state of internal strife, the tendency for global terrorism had reduced drastically cos they hav to spend more time fighting themselves (no time to plan terrorist attacks on foreign countries). It quite funny that muslims with spend time listing all the wars fought in the OT in order to prove a point. Israel had been a nation of war from time immemorial because they are surrounded by enemies (from the time of the babylonians, the assyrians and now the modern day mohammedans), they are always in conflict. Isreal was fighting, at that time, as a nation and judaism as a religion. Modern Jews are peaceful compare to modern muslims\arabs, that is not to say the Jews are not aggressive to an extent. The Jews are fighting an existential war in the 20th and 21st century. First against hitler Germany(Hitler said and I quote, 'this Jews are sub-human parasites that must be destroyed') and now against arab-Islam (Ahmadinajab of Iran said and I qoute, 'Israel will\must be wiped out from the face of the earth'). Christianity came after Jesus christ. Nowhere in the bible or secular history was Jesus engaged in a war, commanded a war, loot caravans, kill people who opposed him, took and trade slaves, married an under-age girl, etc. But mohammed committed all these atrocities and a perfect examples to muslims. Even after his death, another round of war started on who will lead Islam which created the current sunni and shia crisis. There had never been anytime in history that Islam was peaceful. |
cloudstar: usbaJust make ur point and do not engage usba in his characteristic abuse. He usually resort to abuse and editing opponents' posts to deflect flow of argument. Always make ur points, do not be swayed by their e-threats. We shall keep exposing the falsehood in Islam and her self-aclaimed prophet (mohammed). |
truthman2012: Thank you my brother. God bless you.The arabs have no viable economy, their economy is run only by oil revenue paid for, mostly by the west. The arabs, except their powerful elites, remain one of the least educated and poorest pple on earth, only a bit above the sub-sahara africa. The arab\muslims export to the world is only mosques and terrorism, nothing more. The west, initially, didnt see the threat of arab\muslims migrations to their countries and the effect it will have on their culture, but now, most of their govt are more informed of the dangers of Islam to modern civilization, hence the setting-up of 'trojan horse' in the UK and europe and china to check-mate the negetive influnce of Islam on their pple. The Japanese gives no room for Islam at all. Their excesses are being check-mated, as long as darkness cannot rule over light, Islam cannot rule the world. The western powers have already kept them busy in their home countries by encouraging them to keep fighting themselves so that they wont have time fighting the progressive and civilized world. |
truthman2012: Serious expositions, very revealing.Thank God they dont have the military might to threaten the world. The era of Jihadist invasion, the golden era of of Islamic conquest, imperalism and expansion, is long gone. They can only confirm their jihadism in their countries. Any attempt by any of the jihadist to declare a holy war against any non-muslims country, like Israel or europe, they will be seriosly flogged and beaten. So they have to sing, 'ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE' so that no one will suspect their inate aggressive tendencies. |
truthman2012: Good points.The arabs are not complaining that their religion is filled with bloodletting, in fact they are proud of it as long as it is for the promotion of Islam. That is why you keep seeing sunnis killing shia (on a daily basis), in pakistan, baharain, yemen (even where shia are majority). Ironically, the muslims kills fellow muslims more than the real 'infidels' (the xtains and the Jews) because of doctrinal variants. The ahmadiyyas (regarded as apostate muslims for accepting another prophet after mohammed) are killed daily in pakistan by the majority sunnis, the saudis are killings the minority shia in the eatern province, the saudis are financing the sunnis (Islamic state of levante) in iraq against the shia led govt of maliki in order to depose the govt and instal a sunni led govt. Iran, on the order hand are financing the shia-led govt against the Islamic state rebel. Egypt on the other are battling against the muslim brotherhood, supporting Isreal against the shia-sponsored hamas by blocking the gaza stripe with order from the Israeli govt. In lebanon, the islamic hizbolla is supporting the syrian govt to fight the syria rebel. In baharian, the saudis are financing the minority sunni community against the majority shia population. Confusion everywhere in the heart of Islamic world in this 21st century. To deceive the gullible and uninformed, Islamic propagandist will pay international media to assist them sing the mantra: ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACEEEEEE! Yeye dey smell. |
Islamic apologist will say: 'they are not true muslims', 'Islam is a religion of peace', 'quran says there are no compulsion in religion', 'it is the CIA that is responsible for the Islamic suicide bombing', 'the suicide bombers are mossad agents', 'shia and sunnis are living peacefully', 'only few muslims are trying to paint Islam bad', 'the western media is bias against Islam', 'Islam is the fastest growing religion in the whole world despite the Islamic crisis', 'they are Islamaphobe' and finally 'allah knows best'. While the real muslims will say: 'kill all the infidels until evryone worship non but allah and accept mohammed as prophet', 'curse are the christians and the Jews for attributing patners to allah', 'behead anyone that insult the prophet', 'Islam will rule the world', 'sharia will be established in evry country on the planet', 'fight for the cause of allah', 'democracy and freedom is evil'. NL muslims are mostly naturally gentle yoruba muslims whose Islamic faith are considered fake judging by International Islamic standard. |
tintingz: Are those Christian terrorist fighting crusade or not?This is what we call a religion of peace: Shia militia opens fire on Sunni mosque in eastern Iraq, killing at least 73 people as Islamic State violence continues August 22, 2014 8:40AM ET At least 73 people were killed when a suicide bomber broke into an Iraqi Sunni mosque and a Shia Muslim militia opened fire inside in the country's eastern Diyala province on Friday, Iraqi security sources said. An army officer and a police officer said a suicide bomber first broke into the Musab bin Omair Mosque in Imam Wais village in Diyala province, some 75 miles northeast of Baghdad, detonating his explosives before gunmen rushed in and opened fire on worshippers. The officials said that fighters with the Islamic State group have been trying to convince members of two prominent local Sunni tribes — the Oal-Waisi and al-Jabour — to join them, but they have thus far refused. Two medical officials confirmed the casualty figures. All of them spoke on the condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to brief the media. The towns of Jalula and al-Saadiyah have recently fallen to the Islamic State group but Imam Wais is thus far in government control. Such sectarian violence could hurt efforts by Iraq's new Shia prime minister, moderate Haider al-Abadi, to form a government that can unite Iraqis against Islamic State, the Sunni fighters who have seized large parts of the country. The crisis has worsened since June as the group swept through new towns in the north, killing dozens of people and displacing hundreds of thousands, mainly members of the minority Christian and Yazidi religious communities. Ambulances transported the bodies to the town of Baquba, the main town in Diyala province, where Iranian- trained Shia militias are powerful and act with impunity. Attacks on mosques are acutely sensitive and have in the past unleashed a deadly series of revenge killings and counter attacks in Iraq, where violence has returned to the levels of 2006 and 2007, the peak of a sectarian civil war. Iraqi Shia militia forces executed 15 Sunni Muslims and then hung them from electricity poles in a public square in Baquba in July, police said. Diyala police officials told Reuters they had provided Shia militias with names for hit lists so that suspected members of Islamic State could be tracked and executed. america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/8/22/iraq-mosque-shooting.html |
Emusan: Let's look at the construction method of the sentence in the above sura by paying close attention to the COLOR part.You must be an english major to have spotted out all these textual confusions inherent in the quran, sometimes I find it hard to imagine how an average person can read the quran and be able to join the pieces together. That is why we have Islamic 'scholars', all having a separate interpretation to an ordinary sentence in the quran. Atimes the grand mufti has to give a final personal verdict as a universal interpretation to a single sentence in the quran. Thats terrible for a holy book meant to be understood by a lay-man on the street. |
truthman2012: @OPAll Islamic terrorists, boko haram, al-shabab, hizbollah, and current syrian rebels, shout 'allahu akbar' before carrying out their attacks, beheading and killings. I have never heard or seen any attacker shouting 'HALLELUYA' before killing him victim. |
AbdH: Really? Was it the holy spirit that inspired this message or you just gave it out of your own wisdom? How far can the eyes see for Jesus to have seen the whole earth from the top of a mountain?While I prepare a rubost response, you can assist with this: Answer the question, are there 100 grains on a spike of corn? If you cant answer the question, confirm (with proof), that early men, or immediate generation after adam, are 90 feet tall (or something close) as taught in the hadith. |
Rilwayne001:Answer the question, are there 100 grains on a spike of corn? If you cant answer the question, confirm (with proof), that early men, or immediate generation after adam, are 90 feet tall (or something close) as taught in the hadith. |
vedaxcool: @boldYou are yet to give me any proof, even very slightly, that Adam (or any animal) was 90 feet tall. You never give me any proof that early men were 90 feet, 80 feet, 70 feet,......15 feet or even 13 feet tall, aside from the fairy-tale painted in\by the hadith that muslims are even finding difficult to defend. surah 2:261: The example of those who spend their wealth in the way of Allah is like a seed [of grain] which grows seven spikes; in each spike is a hundred grains. And Allah multiplies [His reward] for whom He wills. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing. Can you please confirm if there are 100 grains for each spike of corn as contained in the above? If you cant, does that mean that allah does not understand the number of grain in a spike of corn or confused? |
surah 2:261: The example of those who spend their wealth in the way of Allah is like a seed [of grain] which grows seven spikes; in each spike is a hundred grains. And Allah multiplies [His reward] for whom He wills. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing. Can any muslim confirm if there are 100 grains for each spike of corn as contained in the above? |
vedaxcool: Mathew 4:8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”The world, as at 2000yrs ago was not as developed as it is now. You can stand on a highest cliff and have a widest view of the earth. The writer of matthew is painting a picture here, and that is the glory of the world, which was shown to Jesus and to be given him as a gift, if only he bow down and worship the devil. I know you are being sarcastic here, the bible had already made it clear that the earth is circullar and hanged on nothing (i.e on the space) and I have given you the bible verses that supports that claim. |
golpen: the arabic word used in those verses means ground (earth) which is different from that used for planet earth..please follow simple explanations.I read the verse you gave me and what i read is that the earth is spread out. If you want me to believe that the quran was talkin about the ground (which is not true), is the groung actually spread out like bed as described in the quran? We all know that the earth surface is never smoothened like a bed, my little knowledge of geography is that there is an average of 4meter slope for every 1km. So the quranic concept that the world is 'spread out' is completely false. The quran also said the moon and the sun are joined together in the verses below: So when vision is dazzled. surah 75:8 And the moon darkens. surah 75:9 And the sun and the moon are joined, surah 75:10 Had there been anytime the moon and the sun are joined together or is this in agreement with modern science? |
golpen: true2god pls now...im laughing seriously here ...when did cardinal points become corners? hehehehehe!Muslims 'egg shape' description is a new infusion into the quran which is subject to scholarly debate among modern-day muslims. Several verses of the quran described the earth as being spread out like bed (or even rug) and I can show you many surah that attest to that. If more than 30 verses of the quran said the earth is spread out, what else do you want me to believe? The bible, as I said earlier, talked about the 4 corners of the earth. So if I may ask, are the north, east, west and the south no more the 4 corners of the earth? Please define your concept of '4 corners of the earth' so that we can learn. What is the difference bw 4 corners of the world and 4 directions of the world? Remember, when the bible wrote '4 corners of the world', the modern compass is not yet available for modern navigation. |
golpen: you see, my friend...when you intentionally turn your heart away from the truth, your mind also goes somewhere else.I dont think you are familiar with basic geography. The earth is divided into 4 cardinal corners, the NORTH, the EAST, the WEST, and the SOUTH. These are 4 corners of the earth. The biblical verses you quoted are consistent with modern geography with respect to earthly segmentation. Surah 88:17-20 says the earth is spread out. Many verses of the quran supported the fact that the earth is spread out. |
golpen: and how does this say that the shape of the earth is flat? .. you know you're quoting out of context.Allah said he has spead out the earth. Allah compare the earth with a bed. Is a bed flat or circullar? |
vedaxcool: How does this explains away the fact that the bible in the new testament stated explicitly that satan carried Jesus to the highest point on earth and showed him all of earth's kingdom in its splendour, something impossible in spherical earth but possible on a flat earth. And don't tell the author of job = author of luke? You make me laughIts good, for the first time, you reason out of the box, but bible didnt say they were stationary while Jesus was being showed the earthly kindly, nor was the moountian they were was mentioned. The simple explanation to that verse was that the devil tempted Jesus with earthly riches for Jesus to worship him. This does not nullify the the fact that the book of Isaiah and Job, written thousands of years before the koran, confirmed that the earth is circullar and hanged in a space. Mr, can you please show me quranic verse that confirmed that the earth is circular or hanged on nothing (as explained in the book of job). The last time i check, the koran says allah spread out the out and created mountians, streams and rivers etc on it. The koran thought the earth of be flat! You can proove otherwise. |
golpen: you pick anyone you feel you can try and we discuss it better.Initiate one. |
vedaxcool: How does this explains away the fact that the bible in the new testament stated explicitly that satan carried Jesus to the highest point on earth and showed him all of earth's kingdom in its splendour, something impossible in spherical earth but possible on a flat earth. And don't tell the author of job = author of luke? You make me laughThese are what koranic allah said about the earth: Qur’an 20:53 Who has made earth for you like a bed (spread out); and has opened roads (ways and paths) for you therein, and has sent down water (rain) from the sky. And We have brought forth with it various kinds of vegetation. quran 20.53 Jalalyn here also conveys the meaning of a flat earth as a bed: He is, the One Who made for you, as well as [for] all creatures, the earth a cradle, a bed, and threaded, facilitated, for you therein ways, roads, and sent down from the heaven water, rain. God, exalted be He, says, as a complement to Moses’s description of Him and as an address to the people of Mecca: and therewith We brought forth various kinds, species, of plants (shattā, ‘various’, adjectivally qualifies azwājan, ‘kinds’), in other words, [plants] of different colours, flavours and [different] in other ways (shattā is the plural of shatīt, similar [in pattern] to marīd, [plural] mardā, as [may be used] in [a phrase like] shatta al-amr, ‘the affair has become divided’). Qur’an 50:7 And the earth! We have spread it out, and set thereon mountains standing firm, and have produced therein every kind of lovely growth (plants). quran 50.7 Here is what Jalalyn says about this verse: And the earth (wa’l-arda, is a supplement to the position of the words ilā l-samā’i, ‘at the heaven’), how, We have spread it out, [how] We have rolled it across the face of the water, and cast in it firm mountains, to fix it in place, and caused every delightful kind, [every delightful] specimen, causing delight by its [very] beauty, to grow in it, Qur’an 51:48 And We have spread out the earth: how Excellent spreader (thereof) are We! |
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