But the Christian Bible teaches that God would not allow anyone who had been in hell to come preach to people on earth.



Or isn't that what Abraham told the rich man in hell in Luke 16:19-31?

Luk 16:19  There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 
Luk 16:20  And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 
Luk 16:21  And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 
Luk 16:22  And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 
Luk 16:23  And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 
Luk 16:24  And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 
Luk 16:25  But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 
Luk 16:26  And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. 
Luk 16:27  Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 
Luk 16:28  For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 
Luk 16:29  Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 
Luk 16:30  And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 
Luk 16:31  And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.


Apparently God has changed His mind now!?


No.



The Devil is deceiving the Pentecostals and the Charismatics that they can change God's words.



Talking to the dead was ABOMINATION in the Old Testament, Deut 18. It is ABOMINATION, even today.



Those who have ears flee evil people who think they can use forbidden things to teach godliness.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUTpIbbZzjM

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Mr Oyedepo boasts of bringing LIVE SNAKES and SCORPIONS from the bodies of people who use his anointing oil.

Snakes visiting him is nothing unusual.

That is very much in line with his work and the being he works for.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfDDPnq_Brc

Mr Kumuyi always come up with ideas he thinks will sell.

How is he going to remove the tithes and offerings he has fraudulently collected all these years?

Which god told him he could collect tithes from Christians? Where in his bible did Paul and Peter collect tithes from anyone?

Who made William Kumuyi into a Levite? Is his "church" ancient Israel?


He should own up to teaching evil doctrines instead of playing to the gallery.

William Kumuyi always serve William Kumuyi.

Those deceived by him follow him. Neither of them has anything to do with the God of the Bible.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSjSgTPOFI8

Somehow the writer forgot the most important reason of them all - you are not even a Christian if you do not have the Spirit of God!

Romans 8:9 ----- Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

But he remembered to state a false, occult, doctrine that shamans and Hindus speak: that God's Spirit helps anyone to speak satanic tongues!

Apparently, Hindus, Sufi Muslims and Shamans have God's Spirit, too!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGOusv4ZA3E

Wetin concern Okada man with seat belt?

When it comes to death?

That is arrogance from the 'Apostle'.

Tens of thousands of people younger (and stronger) than him have died this year.

His rejecting death by his mouth is self delusion.

Heb 9:27  And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGOusv4ZA3E

How would anyone have suspected neither of these "pastors" serve Christ?

The two "pastors" work for Satan: their common objective is to make sure people don't see Christ.

Or where do we read in the Bible of Paul or Peter calling anyone for spiritual contests?

The Great Deceiver is clever.

He is the same person promoting controversies and rancor between seemingly disparate people, all aimed at sowing confusion and deception.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUTpIbbZzjM

This 'anointing' is like who in the Bible?


Like Paul or Peter?


What this writer (and other deceived people) calls 'anointing' is DEMON POSSESSION.


It is from HINDUISM and AFRICAN TRADITIONAL RELIGIONS, never Christianity.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BwQVXsNIHQ

The God of the Bible does not work by number: He works by who is truly connected to Him


100,000 pastors who have no connection to God mean nothing to God.

1 Kings 22 is a good example. The Bible is filled with this truth.

God is not moved by the millions of sinners masquerading as men of God


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUTpIbbZzjM

David Oyedepo says he extracts LIVE SNAKES and SCORPIONS from the bodies of his devotees.

Enoch Adeboye says you should focus on his ROD or use his COMBS to pray.


They are both servants of the same lord.

Both of them were disciples of the same godless man, Kenneth Hagin.


Those who hate God praise them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BwQVXsNIHQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfDDPnq_Brc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yledVK0HQFM

Is this from your medical practice, Mr Enenche?

Would Peter or Paul had said such?

Here is God using Mr Enenche's mouth to warn whoever would listen on how far Nigeria's "men of God" are far from Him.

Peter collected offerings and pocketed them in his own time? Or set up a one-man-one-woman business religious empire to administer them to the benefit of their biological children?

You are living in one of the most dangerous times in all history: occult people calling themselves "men of God"!

I hope the Moderator of Nairaland will allow you to read this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGOusv4ZA3E

This writer appears more interested in the "chosen" than in the Lord Jesus Christ.


That would sound like the man had just left one cult for another.



Or isn't the Lord Jesus Christ the Person that should be given more glory if anyone is indeed saved?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGOusv4ZA3E

They also visit other SHAMANS at the same time.


They do not see any difference between your "church" and the shamans they patronize at the same time.


They are in your "church" to be sure they "cover all eventualities" but generally they are not deceived that they would meet God in your "church".


They know mamon is your god.

They are seeking the same thing that you, yourself, seek: POWER


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BwQVXsNIHQ

Obviously God heard the prayers of the writer for new jobs.

But he is attributing this to the "deliverance" sessions he had in his church.

Sadly that is NOT how to interpret spiritual phenomena.

Our man here is writing his own bible by his experiences, not using the Bible to understand the world.

John 8:36  If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.


Christ said whoever He sets free is free indeed.


Where did our writer get bound after Christ supposedly set him free?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftSH1U3L-bs

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Adesegzy91:


This guy and the man in this video na mumu... U know nothing.. make una go dey live in abjecy poverty, don't use ur mouth to command what u want to existence... The Bible says.. command me concerning the works of my hand... The Bible also said, whatsoever u speak in my hears, I will do it..

Just like Peter or Paul did?

These are the DECEIVED people who think SHAMANISM is the same as CHRISTIANITY.

IF you can use your mouth as you are saying are you any less than a god?


That is the EVIL Oyedepo, Adeboye, Kumuyi, Mike Okonkwo, Idahosa and their gangs have invested into the church in Nigeria.

We now have SORCERERS calling themselves Christians!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tmosgSei3I

One answer given by the Lord Jesus Christ would have been enough:

Joh 6:28  Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 


Joh 6:29  Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. 

Believing on Jesus is all God asks men to do to please Him.

If that is enough for God, it should be enough for us, too


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGOusv4ZA3E

When Mr Oyedepo's wife fell sick a few years ago, he rushed her to some of the best hospitals in the U.S. for medical treatment.




If he or anyone around him is infected by COVID-19, he will change his mind again without telling you.


Mr Oyedepo specializes in setting people up against God.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKC4lEjbyxU

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If the owner of nairaland finds it expedient that people who try to comment on threads promoting Islam first swear fealty to Mohammed and Islam, shouldn't he do the same to people who rail against the basic Christian teaching of Christ being the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD ?

Shouldn't such commenters steer clear of threads discussing Christianity on Sundays?


Or when last did Tomisin666 go to heaven or how did he acquire this his firm assertion that God has no Son even though the Bible, which the Quran says it was based upon, affirms that God indeed has an ONLY BEGOTTEN SON and that this Son is the only Saviour of man?




https://www.thetruechristianfaith.com/2019/03/26/allah/

John 3:16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 


I think that Bible passage makes it clear the main love of God is shown in His willingness to save us from going to hell.


www.thetruechristianfaith.com

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Yes; if they are really not born again.



Joh 8:36  If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. 




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftSH1U3L-bs

Here is another so-called 'pastor' who should never have set foot in a pulpit, someone who really does not understand the basic MESSAGE OF THE BIBLE: SIN, not God's inability to keep the world fed, housed, healed or maintained, is the issue.


Now my experience is this, I have come to realize that many of us are going through economical problem, rather than spiritual problem


Really?


Isn't that very different from what you have in Isaiah 59:1-2, pastor? Was Christ wrong, pastor, when He taught people to seek first the kingdom of God and that all other things would be added to them?


With this your postulation, it would appear an economics professor or a social worker should rather be in your post.

The problem of the world, Mr Pastor, is spiritual. It is SIN.

God is capable, not only to solve all economic and social problems once the sin issue is removed from the world but to make the world run without the problems.

Those who know God situate correctly the problem of man.


No one is supposed to be called a pastor if the main teaching of the Bible is not understood by the person.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGOusv4ZA3E

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The issue today is not about accepting Jesus, it is more of making sure you have not accepted a fake Jesus.

The church is filled to the brim with SHAMANS and SORCERERS hawking various 'Jesus' according to their own design.

From the 'Jesus' of ROD to the 'Jesus' of COMBS to the 'Jesus' of HANDKERCHIEFS to the 'Jesus' they issue orders and decrees to.

The 'Jesus' that brings LIVE SNAKES and SCORPIONS from the bodies of devotees!

2Co 11:13  For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 

2Co 11:14  And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 

2Co 11:15  Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. 



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTQqyOKxLlE

What an apt question!

Why seek ye the LIVING GOD among SHAMANS and SORCERERS?


How can the Saviour be found in a place where the leader boasts of bringing LIVE SNAKES and SCORPIONS from the bodies of his followers?

When did Peter or Paul, Isaiah or Daniel bring butterflies from anyone's body?

(Hoping the Moderator of Nairaland will allow you read this).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxOa_QoP48U