₦airaland Forum

CheapHomes1:
The problem is that many Tinubu urchins have tried to give the impression that this port is strictly a Lagos state govt initiative executed by the Lagos state govt. They also try to tie it to Tinubu. But that is far from the truth. The port was initiated and is being developed by a private Singaporean company. The Lagos state govt and the FG (NPA) own 20% and 5% shares in the venture

Check this below and stop crying.

No one claimed Lagos own the port 100% but Tinubu was the one that went to China himself to solicit for investment for this project and he brought them to Nigeria.

State government don’t need to build things 100%, but if they are a shareholder in a business they brought to their states, they can also claim credit in it.

Is 20% not enough for a state judging at how they are also going to get taxes from the companies situated in the LTZ?

Lol

Why are they running away from their states? I thought Obi Pandora made it paradise?

Karnice600:
Nonsense!

Consumption mindset as usual.

Peter Obi pass this old man for many things. Incomparable.
Ordinary loan apps most Nigerians dey collect, no gree pay. No be say most no fit pay. Dem no gree pay. Na Credit Card disuan dey yarn for mouth. Show me the economy you want to run on credit cards. Where's the bluebrint in place to revive the economy. Another form of stomach infrastructure scheme to further rope down stupid myopic Nigerians for many years.
Buhari's flagbearer in economic failure now has a clue to Buhari's cluelessness.
See as yahoo boys go rush go vote for this character.
Nonsense!

What did Peter Obi proposed instead?

Proflere:
I am an Obi supporter and I can clearly tell you that this is a good one from BAT. What you guys don't get is that, no one is saying BAT isn't a good administrator or a builder, but there are so many reasons these guys should start empowering the youths to take on the leadership roles while they play supportive and advisory roles. These guys have been in power since the 80s and they are still the ones ruling till date... Haba now, when is the future we were promised coming?

That been said, you all should learn to be civil when selling your candidate. We shouldn't start insulting one another because we have different opinions about candidates. Aside people that directly benefit from these politicians, the rest of us are just trying to make sure Nigeria works again during our lifetime. Most people supporting PO are doing so not because they believe he is better than BAT, but guys are tired of these same old guys.
In the end, whoever wins, we all will still have to work together, pray together to still make sure they deliver because their decisions will definitely affect us all. So why the bitter stance against one another because of politicians

You’re correct about being civil.

But if you check Nairaland and other online space, Obi supporters usually abuse people not supporting him such that you have some celebrities having to close their comment section because of the too much abuse.

If we allow them to abuse while remaining civil, they will silence everyone with their mob culture which explained why I was also on the attack front he post.

That’s why most of his supporters exhibit that mad man kind of intellect.

Obi Pandora always consult mad people before reaching a decision.

Weray man say he hug mad man and na him dey give him advise on how to curb insecurity.

He can’t just go one day without lying.

CheapHomes1:
The question is very straightforward.

What system is he creating? If it can work in the US, why is it working in the US?

You asked if it can work in the US, why is it working in the US?

Nairalanders, does this question make any sense to you guys? Please help us here coz I’m confused.

shibanbo:
What do you call this brilliant or what did i hear,chai some people are long gone. My brother please ask him where he will get the funds from

Where is the bank getting the money they are lending people? From the skies?

CheapHomes1:
You haven't answered the questions.

What system is he creating? If it can work in the US, why is it working in the US?

I don’t even understand your question because it makes no sense.

You might want to read it yourself and ask again:

CheapHomes1:
If you can't "Lifting people out of poverty, effective legal system that make people pay for crimes irrespective of class, and etc", how then do you now focus on credit card and mortgage as the solution to corruption?

You say corruption is multifaceted, but the best solution Tinubu can come up with is credit card and mortgage?

He is speaking with regards to one aspect of corruption. That dosent mean he won’t tackle the remaining issue I stated, this is just a 2min video boy.

Tinubu is far intelligent that most of you guys so he understood the game well. When he was elected as governor in 1999, companies pay taxes using manual method which usually cause lot of corruption back then because records are not traceable. He was the first governor to fully digitize the system such that companies can pay directly to the state and record can be saved and tracked and that boosted Lagos revenue.

Everything this man talk about, you can always find one example in Lagos. Check Lagos HOMS, this kind of mortgage is open already and with the right powe, structure, and cooperation with the banking sector, more can be done at the FG side.

CheapHomes1:
What system is he creating? If it can work in the US, why is it working in the US?

The irony here is that your profile name is “Cheaphomes” and I will assume you are a developer sourcing for buyers.

This Tinubu proposal if it scales through could be a game changer for your business. Banks will be able to pay you while the customer pay banks back in installments for the property you build.

But because of the hate in your brain, you’re questioning a system that will be of favor to yourself.

This is exactly how real life work.

People have those they will vote but they sometimes please the online mobs who go on comment section to display hatred and bile comments.

That’s why on Election Day, results are always different from social media trends.

These guys lock comment section because Obi Pandora lunatic supporters will swarm it and start abusing them. Something Tinubu/Atiku supporters won’t do to people supporting Obi.

IPOb terrorists have this cancel culture and it’s not a surprise that they are using the same tactics to campaign for Obi because he inherited all those IPOB terrorists supporters.

They are now changing Kanu DP to Obi picture.

chigoizie7:
Barber takes credit in US because the system works , it was programmed to work that way, is Nigeria programmed to work like that?

Then Tinubu will come in to create the system. That’s exactly what he’s talking about.

If it can work in the USA, why can’t it work in Nigeria if we put in the work?

Daydream252:
So you are trying to explain more better so we can understand what he meant to say my brother why can't we the young people see that this old men don't have anything good for us I'm not saying because I'm from the eastern region but we have all seen Peter obi talk he really knows how to do his things to see that this country will be better for young people

I just summarize what he said for the people that won’t bother to watch the video.

It’s same exactly as what he said, so what nonsense are you saying?

Is Peter Obi of 60 years a youth? It seems you just finished smoking your own Meth.

If I want to vote a youth, I’ll find someone like Sowore who is still youth by Nigeria standard.

Abdul05:
Amen ..God bless you sir

God bless you too bro.

aviara:
Absolute rubbish.
Are you saying people who own houses and cars don't have corruption tendencies? The accountant general that stole N80b doesn't he have houses and cars? Or what type of car and house does he want to acquire with such large sum.

Sani Abacha who siphoned billions of dollars abroad, was the money to buy cars and houses? How many cars or houses will a person acquire before he gets satisfied?

I never said that.

You can never curb corruption, you can only reduce it.

Multiple things contribute to corruption, and if you can reduce some of this you can minimize it. That’s what I’m saying, stop sounding like a dunce in a bid to find fault in Tibubu claim.

Now can you tell me what Peter Obi propose in ending corruption?

TheOldGods:
oga calm down, nobody is looking for mortgage.. is it not stupid that you earn 100k a month, buy a car of 8 million and you keep paying it for ever, let's do the maths at the current price of things, atleast 70k should be manageable a month. It will take a the person 22 years to pay off 8million naira. Really, I thought he should be talking about increasing salaries so an Average Nigerian can pay up within 5 years max. You go dey pay for 20 years plus, add school fees for kids, add electricity bill, and feeding etc. This man has no single Agenda.

What we need in Nigeria are just 3 things

1 Electricity

2 reduce costs of governance

3 Turn the country into a production economy. Simple

Not loan blah blah.

In USA, you have 30 years mortgage. Go and Google it yourself.

Only say what you know boy.

CheapHomes1:
The politicians that have stolen in the past and amassed so much wealth, has that stopped them from continuously stealing? Is there a limit to stealing?

Is it lack of loan or credit that is responsible for corruption in Nigeria?

Lack of loan is part of the reason for corruption. Boy it’s a simple reasoning nao.

Corruption is multi-faceted, it cannot be curbed completely but can be reduced by implementing some changes one of which mortgage is part of.

Lifting people out of poverty, effective legal system that make people pay for crimes irrespective of class, and etc are part of that too.

CheapHomes1:
How does that reduce corruption?

It’s simple.

Ability to afford cars, houses, and etc. could make people venture into corrupt means. If I see my neighbor buying cars, I might be tempted to also go and steal or siphon public money because I want to afford it.

So if I can also get a car like my neighbor with ability to pay back in installments, I won’t have that much reason to steal or be desperate to siphon money to get the same thing.

That’s what Tinubu is trying to say.

Enumerator:
Oga stop making big deal of the credit system idea he brought, it's not new neither is it different from what majority of us have been saying



Say something else

It seems you still get sense small.

At least you did not condemn what he said, your women argument is just that it’s not different from what people have been saying.

However, he is a presidential candidate and re-echoing same thought about it and it’s an assurance that he can implement it in a structural and standardized scale and support with the neccessary security needed for things like this.

chigoizie7:
Without a good job can you make use of that your credit? It’s a yes or no answer.

You want to introduce credit system to a nation where morethan 70% are unemployed? Are you even thinking? The companies funding those credits will simply fold when not so many people use it.

Even ordinary barbers take credit in USA. Oga forget all this long talk, come USA come learn.

Some guys that get here as student from Nigeria can even take credit to buy iPhones on ordinary teaching assistant job. They even give student credit cards without any jobs, the only issue is that they will cap it at low limits.

Well the remaining 30% employed can enjoy the benefit of credit until we lift the rest out of unemployment.

Both of them can work together. Stop being dumb, open your mind to see the brighter side of life.

100% correct.

Tinubu think for the future.

Jayzx:
By using bullion van. To pack money I think

So out of everything I wrote, that what you kilobyte brain can respond with?

chigoizie7:
Bros, do you know how credit system works?

Or because your old man came here to tell you nonsense and you just believe it without thinking? The same way he told you about simple demand and consumption where he will recruit 50million youths to join the army and feed them agbado and cassava, and to you all those his jargons sounds right and feasible? Or where he told you about slowing the economy?

This is credit system is trash, take it anywhere.

Don’t be an olodo that believes every jargon they say, anyone can say anything, but is it feasible considering the current situation of the Nigerian economy, stop showing your mumuness on social media.

I sabi how credit system work front and back.

I even dey use am steady and it will be hard to survive here without having one credit or another from banks.

If you want to buy a good new car, you will need credit.
If you want to buy a house, you will need credit.
Some even take credit to buy new IPhones.
Some even take credit to buy ordinary gold.

I know Peter Pandora no too get sense as per say he just speak and his minions take it like that. But you are talking to an informed guy here who can think for himself and if what Tinubu said is wrong, I won’t re-echo it.

chigoizie7:
Let your oga tackle the main issues. Are you the president to only civil servants ? What are the unemployed? What are his plans for them? The business men and women, no plans to cover them in his yeye credit system? Those in private sector do they have job security?

Did tinubu tell you from the video we just watched that he will tackle other issues? You people can be telling those una nonsense to people that doesn’t know what and how credit system works, out of 200m how many are civil servants? Is he serving just the civil servants? Is it not an all inclusive governance?

He is not talking about the civil servant alone, he’s talking about both civil servants and business men. Watch the video again to see that.

That you can’t even watch a video that’s not up to 3min attentively shows the extent of your brain power.

Go and watch again and we can hold a discourse.

Blaine756:
No that's not brilliant, is it necessary to borrow before we can achieve great things. His economic plan will be just like the America economic lifestyle of which her citizens will never be free of debt.
To curb corruption, reduce the rich and the poor people gap, make every penny worth the work it's earned for, cut inflation and see to every one doesn't live above his income

It’s very neccessary to borrow because even developed economy borrow. Bro, is it not better to have loans and afford amenities of life rather than not have loans and live like a destitute?

The USA understood that no matter how you decrease the divide between the rich and poor class, you still need mortgage and loans. Because even the rich/middle class get mortgage to afford amenities like this.

In USA, a good house will be like $400k, where will any middle class man see money to pay it in cash without mortgage?

The problem with Nigeria is that, most of the citizens are not even as intelligent as our leaders and yet they complain the most.

chigoizie7:
No be person wey get job de get good credit system? Abi who wan give you good credit when you are jobless? First of all tackle the issue of unemployment then other things can follow. How can you tackle the issues of unemployment? First tackle insecurity, electricity issues, accessibility to good roads and then good policies for investors both local and foreign. Because all over the world, government doesn’t create jobs, they lay out the policies that will favour private businesses which creates jobs both directly and indirectly.

You never talk about solving those major problems and you are already jumping to the credit systems.

Na only people wey no know about credit system u go de tell those nonsense, because you must count 1 before you count 2.

No be only credit system. Out of over 200million Nigerians how many of them are gainfully employed? Does Nigeria even have job security?

If first bank employ you and all of a sudden they do their normal retrenchments, but oga don go rush use vehicle finance buy car, once you are out of job and can’t pay up, the financier will reposes their vehicle ooh, and you will loose out both the ones you have been paying and the car.

You end up saying nonsense.

Why can’t the few that are employed have access to mortgages easily? Even if you employ all Nigerians, there will still be a need for mortgage.

You have civil servants and private sector workers that get paid monthly, can’t you service those for now with mortgage and then continue with your drive of curbing unemployment?

Both can be done simultaneously.

Vulturereloaded:
Even Osibanjo shut him away. Did he write an open letter to complain about how things were going?

Tinubu is a thoroughbred politician. You don’t write condemnable open letter against your own party.

He can get it across to Buhari in private and Buhari can choose to discard it. Why write open letter when he can get it to Buhari privately to achieve same thing?

Iyasaburi:
This man sold us all a bad product in 2015, I swear he himself has since then gone bad. I swear!

Gone bad for what he proposed? It’s evident you don’t have the intellectual capability to undesirable his statement.

MotiveU:
Tells us more about alpha-beta

Go and ask your father. He sure will tell you more.

Iyasaburi:
Confusion!

Lol.

So this is the only thing you can contribute on this thread?

Why is it confusion? I’m waiting for your reply.

Vulturereloaded:
U know all this and you didn't advice buhari? Left Nigerians to suffer for 8 years, because u want to be president?


We are not interested in your Bullionomics.

Buhari shut Tinubu away from power and Remi Tinubu even complained about that. You can only advise the president, it is left to him to accept or ignore.

He claimed one of the reason for big corruption in the civil service is that the system is rigged against integrity because how do we expect a civil servant/Private workers earning like 100k to afford a house/car that is 8million by paying cash at once.

He said we can’t have a system that allow corruption while on the other hand have EFCC to curb the corruption.

He advised the best way to curb this is to set up mortgage system such that the people can pay in installment with FG working alongside the lenders to see that people can have access to such loans. With this, a civil servant don’t need to steal to afford cars and etc.

In Lagos, this is in practice with Lagos HOMS. The FG just need to back the banks with some security that can help them mitigate against defaulters that may arise.

To the Obituary people that invaded this thread, you’ve been asking for Tinubu stance on things like this, now he spoke brilliantly, you’re still bitter.

Whether you hit your head on stone or not, Tinubu will be your president in 2023.

Trust me, if Tinubu gets elected, he will build a long lasting mortgage structure in Nigeria that will outlive his government. This man understand how to build structure and he is a goal getter.