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Sigh. All this talk about 32 virgins. When we could be talking about 72 virgins. You know, this was probably the only thing that might have tempted me to embrace Ickslime:

Judas2013:
Since you cannot answer 32 virgin,post your pic let's compare your pic to his Let's decide who is uglier.

My Denzel against your Baba Suwe?!? Tufiakwa!

Judas2013:
Chill dude,he is already dead. Meanwhile TruthHurts1,go to bed.

My sympathies. Did Demmy's reputation die on this thread? RIP Demmyz. You were easy meat though. Hope the next person who comes along puts up a better fight.

ifenes:
L stands for a loser or shit-head

Is that you?!? Poo men! You look like sh.it men! Never knew your profile pic was this ugly!

On the real though, I'm never going to answer to the likes of you on scripture issues. Waste of my time.

ifenes:
Explain 32 virgins or take your L

L for Love? Are you gay? I don't want no h.om.o love, ew

ifenes:
Go to bed with a big L TruthHurts1

Tuck yourself in with your dil.do ifenes

Dear Abeeds, I have decided to come clean with what happened to the 32 Vs. But let me make a slight detour before I do so to bring you the compelling account of a certain 'prophet's' personal history which will put my God to shame. This 'man' led a blameless life:

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Islam – The Crimes of Prophet Mohammed

h/t  God of Moral Perfection

THE CRIMES OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD

Muslims are sanctified by the blood of murdered kafirs. If the prophet of Islam, Mohammed, was alive today he would be sitting on death row somewhere waiting for his execution.

What is important to understand is that none of these depraved and criminal acts are seen as crimes to Muslims, except if they are committed by someone else. They are all holy, divine acts that their own prophet indulged in and therefore they have been given the stamp of validation as the moral code to be emulated by all Muslim men. They are all Sunna [The traditional portion of Muslim law based on Muhammad’s words or acts, accepted (together with the Koran) as authoritative by Muslims].

Molested his wife – six-year-old Baby Aisha. One of Baby Aisha’s wifely duties was to clean semen stains from the prophet’s clothes. The prophet would take a bath with Baby Aisha and ‘thigh’ with Baby Aisha, meaning she was too small to be penetrated so he would take his penis and rub it up and down her thighs and against her vagina.  Being a man of ‘mercy’ he did not penetrate Baby Aisha until she was nine.
Raped Baby Aisha when she was nine (texts have altered her age when Muslims could not explain why their prophet married and consummated the marriage with a small child. Koranic texts makes it clear that Mohammed married her when she was six years old. For a marriage to be legally deemed valid it had to be sexually consummated. The Hadith clearly proves that Mohammed was a notorious pedophile).  Advocated sex with baby girls.
Raped a retarded woman. Murdered a woman.  Had sex with his dead aunt.
Captured women and raped them. Kept women as sex slaves.  Muhammad had sex with 61 women: many he raped. There is no consensual sex between a child girl and a man. There is no consensual sex between a master and his sex slave.  There is no consensual sex between a woman conquered in war and her husband conqueror.  All such sexual acts are rape.  RAPE IS RAPE.
Had eleven wives at one time. Sexually abused his wives. Raped his wives. Forced sex during their menstruation including Baby Aisha. Mentally abused his wives.  Can you imagine taking a child (or any aged woman) and molesting with your hand/fist her menstruating vagina?
Beheaded his enemies. 600/900 Jewish men at one massacre.  Had Jewish boys as young as 13 years old beheaded after pulling down their pants and inspecting groin for pubic hair.
Ordered the murder, torture, terrorization of Christians and Jews if they did not convert to Islam.  Forced Christians and Jews from Saudi Arabia (the mass exile).
Assassinated people for insulting him or Islam.  Established totalitarian rule. Had followers and their families burnt alive in their homes for missing prayer.
Ordered the extermination, torture and terrorization of kafirs.  Instigated 60 massacres and personally participated in 27 of them.
Owned and sold slaves.  Enslaved women and children.
Called his black slaves pug noses and compared them to Satan.
Treated his black slaves as beasts of burden.
Lied and cheated. Mohammed encouraged his men to lie to deceive someone in order to get what he wanted.
Caused division and hatred. Ordered no befriending with Christians and Jews.
Subjugated and oppressed Muslim women.  Required them to cover their faces.
Married his daughter–in–law.
Approved prostitution.
Encouraged the rape of women in front of their husbands.
Recommended wife beating.  Hit his wife – Baby Aisha.
Murdered prisoners of war.  Committed acts of terror.
Advocated suicide attacks.
Executed apostates and homosexuals.
Beat children who didn’t pray.  Abolished adoption.
Honor killings of Muslim women and children.
Beat alcoholics.  Lied.
Stoned adulators to death.  Stoned a woman to death after she had given birth.
Ordered thief’s hands/feet chopped off.
Tortured a man out of greed.
Looted and plundered.
Preached hate for people of other religions.
Extorted money from other religions
Forced conversions to Islam
Allowed his companions to execute, behead, rape and enslave.
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References to prophet Mohammed’s crimes: 

Hat tip to our reader Craig for the due diligence in providing the references to these claims.

— Muhammad’s marriage to 6yr old Aisha-(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234 and 236).

— Aisha cleans Muhammad’s semen stains-(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number 229-233),

— Muhammad handling Aisha during her ‘Menses’- (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 298-300, Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 1, Number 0270)

— Muhammad liked to have intercourse with Aisha and his other wives when they were menstruating (Sahih Muslim, Book 003, Number 0577-0579),

— He also loved to recite the Quran when his wives were in Menses while lying between their legs!-(Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 296), (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 639)

— Muhammad married his adopted Son’s wife called ‘Zaynab’ after lusting for her and then banned Adoption in Islam- (Surah 33:37,Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 305, Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3330, Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 516,The History of Al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam, translated by Michael Fishbein, 1997], Volume VIII, pp. 2-3)

— Muhammad having sex with his dead Aunt in the Grave-( “Kanz Al Umal” (The Treasure of the Workers, by Ali Ibn Husam Aldin, commonly known as Al-Mutaki Al-Hindi. He based his book on the hadiths and sayings listed in “Al-Jami Al-Saghir,” written by Jalal ul-Din Al-Suyuti.)

— ‘I (Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven, and I slept with her in her coffin (grave) that I may lessen the pressure of the grave. She was the best of Allah’s creatures to me after Abu Talib’… The prophet was referring to Fatima , the mother of Ali. “The Arabic word used here for slept is “Id’tajat,” and literally means “lay down” with her. It is often used to mean, “Lay down to have sex.”

— Muhammad and the Quran sanctioned sex with your wives and ‘married’ slave girls-(Quran – 70:22-30, 23:5,6, 4:24, 33:50), — Muhammad speaks of sex with Slave Girls- (Sahih Bukhari – Volume 3, #432, Volume 9, #506, Volume 5, #637, Sahih Muslim, Volume 2, #3371)

— Muhammad disagreed with ‘coitus interruptus’ with slave girls- he supported RAPE.

— Muhammad forces a 17 yr old Jewish girl called Safiyyah to marry him and rapes her on the same day her husband and family are killed in the battle of Khaibar (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 522, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367).

— Al Tabari reported in his (‘The History of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam’, Translated by Michael Fishbein) that even some of Muhammad’s wives and companions were shocked that he forced Safiyyah to marry him after beheading her husband, brother and father.

Demmzy15:
ProudKafir should please come to TruthHurts1 rescue.

From what?!? Oh dear I just heard Allahu Akbar outside my door! Have the Boko boys traced my location?

But I'm always giving 50 naira to the bambi allah beggars I meet in the streets. Won't you spare me on those grounds?

Demmzy15:
Yahweh and jihadists killed, raped, maim and do all sort of unprintable crimes. So sex is just something small on their scale, besides if sex wasn't what they used them for, please tell us! We want to know, we're interested!

Enlighten us.

Demmzy15:
You never answered the question, why was he given 32 virgins? You can't tell me your God was given virgins just to stare at, what did the gods(father, son and Holy Spirit) do with the 32 virgins?!



Allaah is different from Yahweh, read the atrocities of Yahweh in the bible and read about Allaah the Quran. They can't be compared, Yahweh is a bloodsucking demon who taste for blood is unmatched, maybe Boko-are-rams and ISIS are working for him, who knows.



LOL, you're trying to sound relevant when in fact you've been humiliated. Never cross my path girl, if you like create another account you'll be caught and disgraced. Nevertheless, answer my question, what did he do with the virgins? !

Well he didn't do this...

Judas2013:
When people find out that I'm questioning religion/faith/christianity, they tell me to READ THE BIBLE! And then I have to tell them that reading (and studying) the Bible, especially passages like the ones discussed in this and your recent posts, is exactly what is causing my questions.

Your grand mama mess sef smell reach here

Sadly she is late. So that's not even possible my primate friend.

Demmzy15:
¬Dry pathetic joke, so your God had sex with the virgins?

Had sex? Read the verse carefully and point out where sex is mentioned in it. If only your eyes can see sex then I can recommend an optician....

Demmzy15:
We all know what virgins are used for after war, so you're implying your God had sex with them?

Well read the scripture yourself a since you first mentioned it and point out where it says he did anything with them. Just to be clear on this, is this finally an admission that Allah and Yawheh are not the same God? If so thank you for being the first wise mumuslim.

Judas2013:
Wetin god carry those virgins do,tell us!!

Am I HE? Why not ask HIM? Fear dey catch you?

Judas2013:
Wetin god carry those virgins do,tell us!!

Wetin Judas dey yarn? Even through phone I dey smell him mouith odour!

Demmzy15:
When we clearly read the verse from the beginning it refutes the above notion, I'm not asking for the nature of the virgins or how tasteful they're. I said what did your God do with them?! This is a straight forward question na Parisbookaddict, I thought you had confidence?

He did nothing with them. There is no account of anything being done with them unless you want to look at it from the Al-ilah perspective.

Judas2013:
Fortunately I found out about all this murderous violent filth in the Bible and walked away permanently from Christianity. This is the stuff they never tell you about in church, and you are quite shocked at what the Bible actually contains when you read it for yourself. I don't care what excuses "God" might have for justifying his behavior. Wrong is wrong is wrong. Why can't God follow his own laws for a change (thou shall not murder).

And for the virgin,TruthHurts1,what did your god do with them?? You need to tell us,since you are his mouth piece.

Judas art thou come to scorn me in this hour? Thy treachery doth magnify itself against the Way....

Demmzy15:
Laughing at your idiocy, did his wives complain to your generation? Can't you see how they're happy, you christians never seems to amaze me with your desperate tactics!

They couldn't complain cos they would be whipped silly:

Quran

Quran (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."  Contemporary translations sometimes water down the word 'beat', but it is the same one used in verse 8:12 and clearly means 'to strike'.

Quran (38:44) - "And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it, and do not break your oath..."  Allah telling Job to beat his wife (Tafsir).

[size=24pt]The 32 Midianite virgins were young girls who were not involved in the licentiousness and immorality associated with Baal worship. They were therefore not implicated along with the adult men and women. These virgins grew up and were given in marriage to men in Israel.

YHWH is not by nature a vengeful God who strikes out capriciously and randomly at whatever people-group He feels like killing off. YHWH does not take pleasure in the death of any man or woman, boy or girl. He is longsuffering and slow to anger, plenteous in mercy. He even provided for the acceptance of sojourners and strangers into the fold of Israel if they were willing to join Israel in the worship of the one true God, YHWH.[/size]

Demmzy15:
Lmao!!! 32 virgins were alloted to your God out of 16,000 for the men, what did your God do with his share?! Simple question!

If you're not a coward, reproduce the verse.

A true Prophet is a model of temperance and forebearance. He practices self discipline. A false prophet does this:

Demmzy15:
Don't be confused girl, I never mentioned Jesus. In fact he's responsible for this because he's god according to your doctrine, so what did he do with the 32 virgins? Everything the Prophet Muhammad(SAW) did was moral, they were his wives, legally married to them, so nothing spoil!

What did your God do with the 32 virgins alloted to him? May Allaah continue to be with Bro Ridwan for the marvelous destructive thread. What did your God do with them?

I see. So the 32 virgins ascended into heaven? What scripture is this even from?

lol

Demmzy15:
Were they not his wives?! So what's your problem with a man and his personal life?!

Anyways, I need explanations for this, after your God commanded his jihadists to kill, plunge, rape and loot. He asked them for something amazing:

36-40 The half share of the soldiers was 337,500 sheep and goats, of which 675 were the tax for the Lord; 36,000 cattle for the soldiers, of which 72 were the tax for the Lord; 30,500 donkeys for the soldiers, of which 61 were the tax for the Lord; and 16,000 virgins for the soldiers, of which 32 were the tax for the Lord. Numbers 31:36-40

Parisbookaddict can you please tell me what he was going to use this virgins for?!

Concerning your above overconfidence, you're just wasting your time because this same Allaah is what your fellow Christians use as God in their bible. Or do you want to see John 3:16 in Arabic bible? You've not disproved me, I said there's nothing like Al-ilah, it's not possible, don't be pathetic loser na, give up!

Where's Jesus in any of this?

The three daughters of Allah (Al-Ilah), al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat

Thank you for this Saheed. I owe you one!

Was Allah The Moon God of Ancient Arab Pagan?



By Saheed Kamran Mirza



Historical evidences, impartial logic, well versed references and all available circumstantial judgments can very well prove that—(a) Allah name of deity was pre-existed much before the arrival of Islam, (b) Pre-Islamic Pagan peoples worshipped Allah as their supreme deity (moon-god). Allah’s name existed in pre-Islamic Arab. In ancient Arab the Allah was considered to be the supreme God/deity (as Moon-God) and Arab Pagans worshipped Allah before Islam arrived.



Let us examine below some valid questions and answers :

Did the Pagan Arabs in pre-Islamic times worship 360 gods? Yes

Did the pagans Arabs worship the sun, moon and the stars? Yes

Did the Arabs built temples to the Moon-god? Yes

Did different Arab tribes give the Moon-god different names/titles? Yes

What were some of the names/titles? Sin, Hubul, Ilumquh, Al-ilah.

Was the title “al-ilah” (the god) used as the Moon-god? Yes

Was the word “Allah” derived from “al-ilah?” Yes

Was the pagan “Allah” a high god in a pantheon of deities? Yes.

Was he worshipped at the Kabah? Yes.

Was Allah only one of many Meccan gods? Yes

Did they place a statue of Hubul on top of the Kabah? Yes.

At that time was Hubul considered the Moon-god? Yes.

Was the Kabah thus the “house of the Moon-god”? Yes.

Did the name “Allah” eventually replace that of Hubul as the name of the Moon god? Yes.

Did they call the Kabah the “house of Allah”? Yes.

Were al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat called “the daughters of Allah”? Yes.

Yusuf Ali explains in fn. 5096, pg. 1445, that Lat, Uzza and Manat were known as “the daughters of God [Allah]”

Did the Qur’an at one point tell Muslims to worship al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat? Yes. In Surah 53:19-20.

Have those verses been “abrogated” out of the present Qur’an? Yes.

What were they called? “The Satanic Verses.”



The variable names (Sin, Hubul, llumquh, Al-ilah) of moon god were used by various tribes of pagan Arabs. Pagan god SIN was the name of Moon-god.





Who is actually Allah?



According to Islamic Theologians (Mullahs, Maulana, Moulavis, etc.), or Islamic teachings-- Allah is the supreme God or creator who (suddenly one day?) talked or introduced Himself with Prophet Muhammad through an Angel named Gabriel, disclosing the truth that it is the Allah who created everything in the universe. Surprisingly, Qur’an never defines the word “Allah” as to who actually Allah was or what was the relation of Allah with pagans. I believe, 99% percent of Muslims do believe that—Allah’s name was invented or started right from the time when Gabriel disclosed the truth (?) to Prophet Muhammad in the cave of Hira Parvat (Mountain) and gave Muhammad the Quran. They believe that before this truth was revealed—pagan Arabs were in the total darkness (Andhakar Zuug) and they used to worship various puppet goddess and that the pagans were very evil people. I can bet on this fact that no mullahs ever told us the real truth, neither they believe this clean truth that “Allah” was in fact a pre-existing deity in pagan Arabia. What a hypocrisy?



Some important factors which will suggest that the name“Allah” was already in use by Pagans as their chief God/deity:



(A) In pre-Islamic days, that Muslims call the Days of ignorance, the religious background of the Arabs was pagan, and basically animistic. Through Moon, Sun, Stars, Planets, Animals, wells, trees, stones, caves, springs, and other natural objects man could make contact with the deity. At Mekka, “Allah” was the chief of the gods and the special deity of the Quraish, the prophet’s tribe. Allah had three daughters: Al Uzzah (Venus) most revered of all and pleased with human sacrifice; Manah, the goddess of destiny, and Al Lat, the goddess of vegetable life. These three daughters of Allah (there is a Quranic verse about them) were considered very powerful over all things. Therefore, their intercessions on behalf of their worshippers were of great significance.

(B) Arabs used to give their children names such as—Abdullah (slave of Allah). Clean proof was the fact that, Muhammad’s father’s name was “Abdullah”. Logical analogy here is—had there been no “Allah” in pre-Islamic Arab, there could be no Abdullah or slave of Allah in Arabia.

(C) Even today, in the entire Arab World, not only Muslims but all other non-Muslim (Jews, Christians, Sabians, Bahai, an atheist etc.) Arabs says—“Ya Allah” as the expression of surprise or unhappiness/sorrow.

(D). Albert Hourani’s statement: “The Islamic name used for God was “Allah”, which was already in use for one of the local Gods (it now used by Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians as the name of God (A history Of Arab people by Albert Hourani, 1991, page-16, Belknap press of Harvard University, USA)



History tells us two theories of Allah’s existence in and around the Kaba Sharif: (1) Pagans used to call the largest Statue amongst the 360 deities as ALLAH—whom they used to consider the chief/supreme deity (god). Or, (2) Pagan Arabs used to worship 360 deities inside Kaba Sharif, and they used to consider them different smaller deities under the total control of a single most powerful chief deity called “ALLAH” who was invisible (Nirakar) and was the all-powerful, all-knowing, and totally unknowable.



Amazing Similarities with Hindu Religion:



In India’s Hindu religion is quite similar to the number two theory (above) of pagan belief. Although, Hindus worship many different Goddesses—they invariably have faith upon a single supreme invisible deity called “Bhagaban” (some call it “Ischhaar”) whom they call “Nirakar”. And, surprisingly there is no sculptural image/figure for this Bhagaban. But all Hindus worship Him along with other numerous deities. This Bhagaban is considered as the lord of all other deities. What would happen—if some intelligent prophet would have asked Hindus to give up worshipping other goddesses and keeping only Bhagaban as their only deity making it a monotheist religion just like Islam? Could it not be another religion like Islam?



Now some factors which will suggest “Allah” was the Moon-god of Arab pagans:



(A) In Qura’n there are at least a dozen verses in which Allah repeatedly swears by the names such as moon, sun, stars, planets, night, wind etc. It is a mystery why the creator Allah (?) should swear by his creations. Normally, we swear by the name of something much superior to us, such as we swear by God or by the name of our father (who is considered senior or superior to us). But we never swear by the name of something inferior to us. Here in the Quran swearing fashions of Allah (God) by moon or stars hinting us that Allah considered these things superior to himself. And this makes us to think (otherwise) as to who actually acted as Allah in Quran? However, in his explanation of why the Qur’an swears by the moon in Surah 74:32, “Nay, verily by the Moon,” Yusuf Alli comments, “The moon was worshipped as a deity in times of darkness”(fn. 5798, pg. 1644). Perhaps, this swearing of Allah was due to the usual/cultural habits of worshipping moon as their God in pagan customs.



(B) Yousuf Ali stated (Page-1921-1623 of his English Translation of Holy Quran):



“Moon-worship was equally popular in various forms………Apollo and Diana—the twin brother and sister, representing the sun and moon. …in the Vedic religion of India the moon god was Soma, the lord of the planets…….moon was male divinity in ancient India. Moon was also male divinity in ancient Semitic religion, and the Arabic word for the moon “qamar’ is of the masculine gender, on the other hand, the Arabic word for sun “shams” is feminine gender. The pagan Arabs evidently looked upon the sun as a goddess and the moon as a God.



The Pagan deities best known in the Ka’ba and round about Mecca were Lat, Uzza, and Manat.…the 360 idols established by the Pagans in the Ka’ba probably represented the 360 days of an inaccurate solar year. This was the actual modern pagan worship as known to the Quraish contemporary with our prophet”



(C) Influence of Moon in Islam:



Who can deny the paramount influences of moon in Muslim’s life? In Islam, moon is considered holiest astronomical object, and moon is the guiding light of all Islamic rituals/festivals. Contradictions and conflicts are very common with the dates of Eids and Ramadan and obviously it is a chronic problem and moon is the nucleus of this problem. Crescent moon and stars are the symbolic sign in the national flags of many Muslim countries, and it is present over the Mosques, in the Muslim graveyard etc.



Prophet Muhammad compromised to Pagans to establish Islam in Arabia:



Prophet Muhammad did his clever tactics of adapting many rites of paganism into Islam, in order to accommodate Islam among the pagan Arabs. He made lots of political pacts with the Pagan Leaders such as Abu Suffian to accommodate his new idea of religion and he agreed to incorporate many of the Pagan rituals in Islam. Prophet Muhammad asked the pagans to worship only the “Allah” the largest God,

And destroy the idols of all other gods and goddesses that existed in Kabah. To establish oneness (monotheist) of God, he repeatedly asked them not to make any partners to Allah (That is why we can find hundreds of Quranic verses “asking not to make any partners to Allah). Finally, the Prophet was able to convince (by force of course) the pagans to destroy all idols, and on return (he) agreed (perhaps) to keep the “Names” of the goddess of most famous Pagan tribes as the alternative names of Allah—hence Islam has 99 NAMES of Allah.



Prophet Muhammad did command his followers to participate in these pagan ceremonies while the pagans were still in control of Mecca. (Please See Yusuf Ali, fn. 214, pg. 78). ... “the whole of the [pagan] pilgrimage was spiritualized in Islam...” (Yusuf Ali: fn. 223 pg. 80). In the Tafsir (of Quran-2:200) maoulana Yousuf Ali stated: “After Pilgrimage, in Pagan times, the pilgrims used to gather in assemblies in which the praises of ancestors were sung. As the whole of the pilgrimage rites were spiritualized in Islam, so this aftermath of the Pilgrimage was also spiritualized. It was recommended for pilgrims to stay on two or three days after the pilgrimage, but they must use them in prayer and praise to God.(#223 of Shane’nazul by Maoulana Yousuf Ali, page-81)



In Islam many rituals performed (today) by devoted Muslims in the name of Allah are connected to the pagan worship that existed before Islam. Pagans practices of the Pilgrimage of Kabah once a year--the Fast of Ramadan, running around the Kabah seven times, kissing the black stone, shaving the head, animal sacrifices, running up and down two hills, throwing stones at the devil, snorting water in and out the nose, praying several times a day toward Mecca, giving alms, Friday prayers, etc. are strictly followed by Muslims today. Nobody can deny the fact that, all the above rituals of Muslim’s hajj today—existed well before the arrival of Islam.



It is highly plausible to consider the fact that by incorporating much of the Pagan’s rituals in new religion Islam—Prophet successfully reduced the pagan-risk and it was perhaps one of the most important milestone-attempts to conquer the minds of Pagans resulting in massive breakdown of the Pagans’ moral and support to oppose Islam.

The central shrine at Mekka was the Pagan’s Kaaba (called House of Allah), a cube like stone structure which still stands though many times rebuilt. Imbedded in one corner is the black stone, probably a meteorite, the kissing of which is now an essential part of the Muslim’s pilgrimage.



It is the historical fact that the Ka’aba, the sacred shrine which contains the Black Stone, in Mecca was used for pagan idol worship before Islam and even called the House of Allah at that time. The name of the God whom the Arabs worshipped was the god of pantheon—Ali-ilah the god, the supreme, the predeterminer of everybody’s life or destiny—the chief God “Allah”



Who did not read the story of BLACK STONE which was very sacred (povitra) to all various tribes of Quraish. When one day this sacred stone was needed to transfer from one place to another, there was a quarrel amongst the various tribes, as to who will carry that sacred stone? Then most intelligent and righteous young boy Muhammad (was not a prophet then) invented the solution of this serious problem. He (Muhammad) put this sacred stone over a Chaddor (piece of cloth) and asked one representative from each tribe to hold the Chaddor and carry the stone. I narrated this story briefly just to prove that—black stone did exist long before Islam was invented.

In summary, it has been truthfully and logically proven with all possible available circumstantial evidences/rational that, Islam was not a new religion but it is a reformed paganism. I believe thatall these monotheistic religions have more or less similar origins. This idea of monotheistic religion was not a brand new invention. Monotheistic thought was declared by Ancient Pharaoh Kings, Mesopotamia’s king Hamarubi (3000 B.C.), and Alexander the Great (300 B.C.). Differences were, these kings demanded that they themselves were the God whom everybody should worship.



References:



1. The Holy Qur’an, Translated by A. Yousuf Ali, Published by Amana Corporation, Brentwood, Maryland, 1983

2. Buchari Sharif, Bengali Translation by Maulana Muhammad Mustafizur Rahman, Sulemani Printers and Publishers, Dhaka, Second edition-1999

3. A History of the Arab peoples, by Albert Hourani, the Belknap press of Harvard University press, Cambridge, Massachusetts, 1991

4. Dr. Robert Morey, 1996 Research and Education Foundation.

5. Gilchrist, The Temple, The Ka’aba, and the Christ (Benoni, South Africa, 1980), p. 16.

6. G. J. O. Moshay, Who Is This Allah?, (Dorchester House, Bucks, UK, 1994), pg. 138

7. Ibn Warraq, Why I Am Not A Muslim, (Prometheus, Amherst, 1995) p. 42.



8. Encyclopedia of Islam, eds. Lewis, Menage, Pellat, Schacht (Leiden: E. J. Brill, 1971, II:1093.)

9. Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics (ed. Hastings), I:326.



10.The Ultimate Encyclopedia of Mythology, Arthur Cotterell and Rachel Storm, Lorenz Books, New York 10011, Anness Publishing Limited 1999

11. Roots of the Western Tradition, (a short history of ancient world) by C.Warren Hollister, Library of congress cataloging-in-publication data, 6th edition, 1

Demmzy15:
Parisbookaddict you're a failure to humanity!

You mean as big a failure as MUMUhaMAD?

Truly I can't keep up with him. He fu.cks like a h.o.r.n.y rabbit. Read more about the one thing MUMUhaMAD really excelled at doing:

Sahih Bukhari

[size=16pt]Narrated Qatada: Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven). Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268.[/size]

Demmzy15:
Don't you hear word, he was an heretic who had beliefs that are totally contradictory to the tenets of Islam. He was declared as such by people who knew him personally, is that so hard to comprehend? Micheal Servetus believed in God and Jesus but he was burnt on a stake because he was unitarian and he tried to merge Islam Christianity and Judaism. Isaac Newton had to hid his beliefs because he would have been executed as an heretic, think girl!



The Arabic word "Abeed" as no meaning in English, in fact it doesn't make any sense. The Arabic word for slave is "abd" or عبد but overconfidence is killing you too much that you cannot reason without copy and paste.

For the word "Al-ilah" there is no such thing in Arabic, it's Allaah and illah is a god. Get that into your flat skull ignoramus.

Of course Abeed. Wikipedia got it wrong, didn't they?

"Abeed"

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[size=16pt]Abeed (Arabic: عبد‎, plural Abeed عبيد or El Abeed العبيد) is a derogatory term in Arabic meaning "slave" and is usually applied as an insult to Black people to invoke stereotypes..................
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abeed

Demmzy15:
How does this nonsense relate with the issue? Bilad As Sudan is referred to as land of the blacks. The people of today's Sudan are blacks, just that they adopted Arabic. We have black Arabs dullard, the president of Sudan is a black Arab! Chai!!! ! The Truth surely hurts!

This was referring to Malians actually. Really Abeed? I expected more wisdom from you. Sigh.


[size=16pt]"As regards southern countries, all their inhabitants are black on account of the heat of their climate... Most of them go naked... In all their lands and provinces, gold is found.... [size=24pt]They are people distant from the standards of humanity." [/size]Hudud al-`Alam, 982 AD
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Demmzy15:
Why are you desperate and trying to play the racism card here? The world knows who the real racist are, and for your information, the Arabs of Sudan are blacks. They're known as black Arabs, Sudan also known as Bilad As Sudan which is roughly translated as "land of the blacks" is what the whole region of Sudan, Northern Nigeria/South West, Chad, Niger, Mali, Senegal, Burkina etcFaso, etc was known during the Era of Islam dominance, this what the people proudly called themselves . Now can you find somewhere I hit your flat'head?

Oh really (yawn)?

[size=16pt]"They [the Shu`ubiyya] maintain that eloquence is prized by all people at all times -- even the blacks, despite their dimness, their boundless stupidity, their obtuseness, their crude perceptions and their evil dispositions, make long speeches." Jahiz, Al-Bayan wa`l-tabyin, vol. 3 [/size]

Demmzy15:
Why are you desperate and trying to play the racism card here? The world knows who the real racist are, and for your information, the Arabs of Sudan are blacks. They're known as black Arabs, Sudan also known as Bilad As Sudan which is roughly translated as "land of the blacks" is what the whole region of Sudan, Northern Nigeria/South West, Chad, Niger, Mali, Senegal, Burkina etcFaso, etc was known during the Era of Islam dominance, this what the people proudly called themselves . Now can you find somewhere I hit your flat'head?

Oh really?

[size=16pt]"They [the Shu`ubiyya] maintain that eloquence is prized by all people at all times -- even the blacks, despite their dimness, their boundless stupidity, their obtuseness, their crude perceptions and their evil dispositions, make long speeches." Jahiz, Al-Bayan wa`l-tabyin, vol. 3 [/size]

ifenes:
You cannot know better than the Indians sorry. Your argument is dead.

Indios? Didn't see that coming! It's a load of old cobblers though. Pseudo History is Crapo History. I'm sure you believe in ancient aliens and Poo like that, don't you little boy?