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JMAN05: I just said the truth which you guys are aware of.

As JWs, please post what they believe now and prove it wrong, not a mistake the ve changed years ago.

when you talk about child molestation, I ve not heard of such, but I cant say it wont happen cos we are imperfect humans, however, the number must be few.

I shouldnt start to mention molestation amongst catholic priests and atrocities by infallible Popes. Among apointed men in JWs this incidents are few but among priests in catholic? woooooow, of course you know now!!!!!

But that is your doctrine, the bible alone doesnt state what you guys believe, true or false?

There are those who have left catholic too, many many many to be compared with JWs, hmmm have u forgotten?

italo: @ try69,

Let me advice you: that guy will not admit even the glaring truths you'll present him.

You'll just be wasting your time.

That's someone that says "The Church in Rome (probably Catholic) compiled the Bible in the 4th century.

That's some who insists that men like St. Jerome weren't Catholic despite all the evidence in their writings and works that the were.

That is someone who claims he and his Deeper Life Church are infallible and they see the Bible as the final authority yet they cannot agree on what the Bible is.

adsonstone: can you please tell me the complete history of the whole bible? That's where we can find reliable truth.

JMAN05: the fact is: If you want to follow the bible and bible alone, dont follow catholics. They themselves are aware of that.

adsonstone: Sincerely speaking, when asco15 came on this thread, he testified that he was set free from the catholic church and he urged catholic brothers to 'see and embrace light' and now, Italo has tagged that 'attacking the Catholic church'. He sees asco15's accusation of samiramis' worship but doesnt see his (what level of hypocrisy). Now, He has mentioned 'an enemy of truth' -the truth we all know that he has said only half-baked truths on this thread and expects us to believe--how hypocritic!
SMH for those who have ignored the whole truth and see/say only the ones that favours them. What a pity!

italo: Okay.

Matt. 12:32 - And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.

That verse clearly shows that there are some other sins that can be forgiven in the world to come.

You said no forgivess in heaven or hell, so where in the world to come are sins forgiven?

1 Cor 3:15 - If any man's work burn, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire.

Where is this that people suffer loss and are saved as by fire?

adsonstone: Catholic brothers, can you pls, stop haunting asco15? He has already been set free.
Observing your conversation with him, it seem you're trying to force him to say words you wanna hear so you'll speak against him and thats why you ask cunning qstns.
Well, God has freed him and he's forever free.

italo: He is a sinner?

I thought he is God. He talks as if he is God.

asco15: Tnk God i dn't compare myself with anybody wen praying.
Preaching against unrighteousness is nt Judging or condemnation but 2 show love 4 dat person soul.

asco15: pls read Rom.1:18-32, then u will understand dat wat paul preachd against in rome, was latter introduced into the church and they called d ch roman cath ch.
Pls i dn't hv 2 cont wit dis because u r always twisting tins.
God loves u but hates all forms of unrighteousness. BEWARE!

italo: 1 Cor 14:34 - Let women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted them to speak, but to be subject, as also the law saith.35 - But if they would learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is a shame for a woman to speak in the church.

@ Amara, you still believe in Bible alone?

asco15: i knw my sins and d sins committed by d cath ch, and dats y i left to where i cn't continue in dose sins because dey preach against it.
there are tins dat r so glaring. Nt dat my ch is sinless but d ch keep preaching against all forms of unrighteousness and d member who sin r nt true followers of d ch preaching.

italo: We generally dont open thread to attack other people's faiths no matter how wrong they are because we are secure and certain about our faith which is the fullness of truth. It is insecurity that makes you people to take it as a job to attack Catholicism because you want customers for your business.

asco15: are u saying dat why dn't d early xtians just allow us to practise our tradition? Why will i allow my brother to continue in a way dat leads 2 death when i nw knw dat d road i once follow has a diversion wic leads 2 death?
Read Prov16:25.

asco15: no b me talk am o! Na d bible wey una compile talk am. The person dat has d spirit of God can't go on committing sin like drunkenness, idolatory, immoral dressing etc as i observed in d cath ch.

italo: Think.

That Pope Francis is the visible head of the Church on earth ddoesn't mean Jesus isnt the head of the Church.

That Jesus made Peter our shepherd Doesnt mean he Jesus isn't the Shepherd.

That Jesus made Peter the rock doesn't mean Jesus isnt the rock.

That Jesus gave Peter the keys to the kingdom doesn't mean Jesus doesnt hold the keys.

Dont let us start with JW as we did with Deeper Life o.

You remember how many times you people have lied that Jesus is coming back to earth abi? One time, when the date came and Jesus didnt return, your people lied again that Jesus had already come invisibly and had returned.

Take time o!

asco15: Tank u brodas.
But u guys sud knw dat i cn't lie for i knw d consequences to my soul, wat i said is based on wat i went through, saw and observed.
Am nt forcing any body to leave d ch but i dn't like d way most of my former members are reacting as if am now a pagan since i left d cath ch, they even make it look as if i cn't make heaven witout devotion 2 mary.
U guys sud knw dat my life has greatly changed 2 better and i knw dat God is happy dat am nw living according 2 His righteousnes.
All my desire is 2 make heaven and let my brethren in cath also make heaven at last. And we need 2 cut-off anytin dat will hinder us from making heaven.
Tanks u guys, and am sorry if i offend any1.

Ukuts gp: i know dat u people wil nt hv any answer?

Ukuts gp: If any catholic member can answer this, i wud rest my case. The question is, did anybody in the bible ever ask mary to pray for him or her? Waiting 4 ur answer.

asco15: The bible says that by their fruits you shall know them. what i see and observed in the cath ch shows lack of the spirit of God in the members.

adsonstone: Nice write up, its just like a fine piece of short story.

....but all I've seen displayed in it is criticism of a church, I'm not suprised anyway, all churches have critics even the Catholic and Othodox churches.

adsonstone: Regarding the bold, I never heard about any man who told his followers to 'self-service freely' as you quoted above.

adsonstone: By the way, you mentioned 'the mother church', now, how many mother churches do we have because the orthodox church also claim to be the 'mother church' and the 'one true church' Christ found.

adsonstone: Tradition Jesus taught; The Eucharist, we follow that.

Other traditions contrary to scripture, we Ignore. Two opposing things cant be correct and God is never the author of confusion.

Ukuts gp: Italo is already confused, he didn't know what he was typing. That was why he could speak against the authenticity of the bible because of their mere human traditions and practices. I thank God because he is now opening the eyes of those that are closed in catholic and they are now trooping out in numbers. I hv seen many people who left catholic recently and they are now thanking God for liberating them from catholic erroneous doctrines and practices. I believe many more will be freed from that captivity they are in. U cant deceive all. Catholic have to change their ways and follow what the bible teaches now. Thanks.

Ukuts gp: so u think it is funny when u can see the truth staring at you on the face. Mind u, i follow the word of God and not mere church tradition and dogma. The Church history that u carry on ur head like government work will nt save u on the last day. U better decide to leave that gathering now.

Ukuts gp: Catholic are just following man-made tradition imported from hell. Nobody should follow their distructive ways. They are simply practising idolatory which will lead them to doom and damnation.

the grinch: @ try69
It is obvious from the wording of your post that you are not one of God's Children'

The bolded is exactly one reason I said "THESE PEOPLE THREATEN GOD's CHILDREN".

You phrased it so carefully, to show that you are not one of 'THEM'

If you therefore are not a Child of God, then you have no right to authoritatively assert that they are being threatened: Else your foolishness will be like the white man that doesn't want to spank his kid, and calls anyone else who does a criminal.

What did you say? I'm wrong, you're a child of God, saved by the blood of Jesus, okay proove it. Post your salvation experience here. I CHALLENGE YOU.

asamaigho: no such thing as rosary in the bible,tru christians pray in Jesus name and indulge in these idol worship,rosary and tesbiu users are pagans.