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komakan:
Yes they pelletize but tel dem to use Sun dry for u otherwise u wil get 50% dust wit their dryer.

Thank you so much, pls can you give price of their ingredients such as;

Fish meal
Soymeal
Cornflour
G.N.C
Molasis
Price of pelletising

kiwonkifi:
Yes they palletise for people. I have attached their details.

Thank you for your quick response, i will contact asap

What is the mean protein content of Soybean?
Some book says soyabeans contain 35%protein while other says its 48%, this has made the calculation of protein in feed formulation unstable

@Soft777, you are doing a very great work here, as you've opened the eyes of many to the mysteries surrounding profitable catfish farming. Feeding sinking feed can be very trickish.

I used to feed floating immediately after feeding sinking feed and the fish still devour it.

Does it mean i've been underfeeding them with sinking feed, or my sinking is not palatable enough?

kiwonkifi:
I just started trying ideal feeds (along kubwa expressway beside s&m motors which is after the conoil after news engineering dawaki). Can't say much about the quality but you can check them out to formulate yours or buy their pre-packed bags.

I have been unable to locate the feed mill along that axis. Do you know whether they pelletise for people? Can you send me their contact?

HIGHESTPOPORI:
BIAFRA

Biafra! In the grave?

gbaskiipro:
Why is book haram committing suicide.

They believe they have reward of 70virgin in heaven or hell.

What will be the reward of a dead IPOB youth?

Why do these people want to commit suicide?

soft777:
Mr lamude23 thanks for the question, but am very much correct and on point. May be you did not understand my write up . Let me elaborate . A square meter is just the size of those white plastic table used in parties , you cant calculate a quare meter without multiplying depth ; for example a pond of 10 by 15 and depth 4ft , MULTIPLY the length breath and width divde by 3 and you get the total square meter in your pond . Using this standard pond as an example, 10 by 15 by 4 = 600 cubic meter, then divide by 3, you get 200 square meter . So it implies that in this pond size, you will get 200 square meter . So for standard flow through system, using 5 fish , this stocking rate or density amounts to 5 multiply by your total squqre meter 200. This gives 1000 fishes, and it implies that , in a pond of 10 by 15 by 4 ft you can stock 1000 fish to grow out and you can stock higher if your market target is mellange , using standard method . But note , we have different types of system you can operate in your farm ; STANDARD SYSTEM , INTENSIVE SYSTEM and SUPER INTENSIVE SYSTEM. Personally, i operate superintensive system to maximize the full usage of my ponds and i record almost five times profits on a particullar pond. If you want to know how you can get this system or any other system with effective yield . Mr lamude 23 sir, u can talk to me on my whats app for a private chart GODBLESS

I am equally interest @ the bolded, can you please explain to the house how you manage your SUPERINTENSIVE SYSTEM that record almost five times profit. The pond you are referring to is it concrete pond?

Looking at the pics critically, one will have no doubt that what she seeks by releasing that pics is to attract people sympathy, and trust gullible Nigerians have started in hundred to defend someone who doesn't give a damn about them.

To me the pics is a Photoshop for these reasons:
1.The pics is combination of three different pictures [a]forehead up 1pcs [b] eyebore region 2pics [c] below eyebore 3 pics
2. Is it intentional for her to display the tattered hair rather than the use of attachment to conceal the tattered hair?
3. Has it been her tradition not to apply any make up or was the pics snapped at her hospital bed in London?
4. The bogus ear ring is too obvious to sane mind who know Madam's sense of dressing that the pics is an attempt to sway sympathy

Prinzemel:
BEFORE EVIL PEOPLE SAY MORE ON DEZIANI: Quick
Irrefutable facts.
1. She has not used pathos nor appealed for anyone's
sympathy. She is just a sick woman that even delayed
her hospital photos till obviously a slight break from
the chemo. While in office she was undergoing
chemo in the UK. The cancer seems to have
progressed....sadly.
2. She has not sought an injunction from any courts
that would stop her prosecution
3. Sick people are prosecuted. Buhari's army even
courtmartials dead soldiers. Deziani has not told
anyone she cannot attend a trial.
4. Deziani is in the UK, same place that jailed Ibori
and was prosecuting Late Alamieseigha. UK that has
extradition agreement with Nigeria.
5. Deziani is facing ZERO charges in the UK.
6. The senate cleared NNPC of any fraud under
Deziani.
7. External world-reputed auditors audited Deziani's
NNPC. They did not find her wanting.
8. For 6 Months Oshiomole and Co have been unable
to bring up charges against her.
9. We understand that more international auditors
have been commisioned to investigate her. The
silence from APC is deafening on this. Could it be
they are finding ZERO evidence of wrongdoing?
10. six monthssss 6 MONTHSSS six months after NO
WORD of an account or money traced to her. SIX
MONTHSSSSSSS.
11. Kachikwu praised Deziani and her initiatives right
there when he was made minister.
12. The SUBSIDY FRAUD Buhari and co accused her
of, they are paying the same amounts she paid even
when crude oil price has been halved.
13. It is the same arrangements for refining fuel
abroad etc etc that NNPC is still using...the very same
contracts.
14. All vessels she approved to load, Buhari having
shot from the hips and banned them, have all been
given clean bill of health.
15. The Tompolo she and her government put in
charge of waterway security and as some sort of
"citizen policing/vigilante" the Buhari government
and NIMASA, having reviewed it have stated that
Tompolo has the job for the next ten years.
16. Fuel scarcity was minimal in her time of service
with prices remaining constant even through
Christmas.
17. The fuel queues and black market which only
came about by sabotage at the end of their tenure is
alive and well now especially outside Lagos. Black
market is booming again.
18. The oil theft has not abated a drop since she left,
showing the intractability of that malaise and that she
is not to blame.
19. Moreover she is not the police that should
become GI Jane and go after oil thieves.
20. Again, not one "subsidy cabal" has been linked to
her as her company the way Lagos tax collection
companies are linked to Tinubu and Fashola.
21. Buhari and Nigeria in six months have not been
able to show how removing her has led to increased
earnings in any way. They have not told us the
barrels declared under her were short. It is same
barrels and volume of production.
22. There is evidence of fraud against Fashola, placed
on public notice by his successor... SPECIFIC DETAILS
OF GROSSLY OVERPAID-FOR WEBSITES, BOREHOLES
PRICES ONLY POSSIBLE IN MARS and FOOTBRIDGES
PAID FOR BUT NEVER BUILT. There is a standing
judicial decision against AMaechi in Rivers. SIX
MONTHS AFTER, NOT ONE SPECIFIC FRAUD PUT
BESIDE THE NAME OF DEZIANI.
23. Evidence of the MONORAIL OF AMAECHI and
FASHOLA TRAINS are there as monuments to their
failure. Deziani successfully fixed four refineries to
very appreciable extents that BUHARI WAS CREDITED
WITH DOING THEM WITH BODY LANGUAGE. While
Amaechi's Monorail has been declared a waste of
state resources and moneys being voted to clear the
Billion naira worth of debris, NONE OF DEZIANI'S
PROJECTS HAVE A QUESTION MARK ON THEM.
24. Nigeria has in six months paid TSA 62 Billion
which has been FLAGGED by the senate and
populace. With same Saraki and Dino Malaye in the
7th Senate, NONE EVER FLAGGED HER PROJECTS.
NOT ONE!!!!
25. While people say "the courts have not declared
them thieves" on Fashola and Rotimi, those same
witches and wizards have condemned THE MOST
BEAUTIFUL AND ONE OF THE MOST EDUCATED AND
ACCOMPLISHED WOMEN EVER IN NIGERIA. Ever ever
ever!!!
26. We restate Deziani's Accomplishments
a. She is an architect. How many women architects
do you know personally?
b. She has a masters degree from CAMBRIDGE. That
is an IVY LEAGUE school. (not some moimoi foreign
school)
c. She is THE FIRST FEMALE DIRECTOR OF SHELL EVER
EVER EVER.
d. She has held THREE MINISTERIAL POSITIONS
SINCE 2007. Transport, Mines and Steel and then the
position Amaechi and Tinubu can murder someone
over PETROLEUM. Buhari is STEPPING INTO HER
SHOES.) That is 8 clear years of meritorious service.
e. SHE IS THE FIRST FEMALE OPEC PRESIDENT EVER
EVER EVER!!!!
f. She is the FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT OF GAS
EXPORTING COUNTRIES ever.
G. She was Vice President of OPEC before then
h. Should we mention that she is the first female
transport minister in Nigeria ever?
These are irrefutable. To comment, state the number
and give me FACTS only. For beer parlour and tabloid
gists of corruption, go to Sunday Akoji's wall. We deal
only facts here.
Finally, HER AILMENT IS NOT A JUDICIAL EXCUSE
BEFORE LAW. GET BUHARI TO PROSECUTE HER OR
GO AND DEEP YOUR HEAD IN AN AJEGUNLE LATRINE
if you believe she is guilty. Enough stories of tortoise
and squirrel from APC supporters. GEJ is no longer
"protecting" her. Press charges or shut the freaking
hell up.
Instead una go dey pray make una daughters grow
up to be like her, people wey no fit knock her papa or
husband gate, wey dey write application to SHELL and
them no take them go dey open mouth give who be
DIRECTOR for the shell. Government work get insult
no be small.
May God stretch forth his healing hands to the
loveliest MOST BEAUTIFUL creature to ever be called
MINISTER in Nigeria. God heal her please.

I'm sure you're paid to write this epistle.

The beauty of this policy is that government is now generating more income through sanctions of erring banks who do not think that the days of sharp practices are over. The other day First bank was fined over 1billion naira and 2billion to UBA for not remittance of certain money.

Now it is the turn of Skye bank who concealed over 40billion belonging to NNPC pensioners and National Assembly Legislative Aides. While these pensioners are being told to myriad of lies by the management of their organisation who only lodge the money with skye bank for it to yield interest at the expense of their staff, the table has now been turned on the the management of these organisations together with Skye bank directors who are now battling a fine of a whooping 4billion naira.

To me, this is the best policy of this government so far because it will now generate enough money to run the budget despite the dwindling in oil revenue

He is very composed and attentive. A workaholic and a mentor, carry go. We anxiously waiting for your ingenious steps toward revamping the moribund infrastructure and epileptic power sector

AreaFada2:
The guy from Daura knows that in serious countries, Fashola should be president now.

I always said here on Nairaland that Fashola should be "Super minister", and that's what he is now.

Fash has a chance to show what he can do nationally. 2023 Fashola presidency loading........

Fashola has been one Administrator i have been following closely, listening to his comments and debate on national issues of which he holds original answer to so many problems bedeviling this country. His focus, dedication and commitment with humility stands him out of many, he is a rare gem which this country should not toy with. Lagosian are proud of you, Nigeria will no longer remain the same again with this man manning most critical sector of our economy

porka:
[size=13pt]Why is a single person holding 3 offices while others are just ministers of Adamawa, Gombe, Edo etc.?

Is this the best use of human resources?[/size]

Ask goggle

To whom much is expected to him much is given. Fashola representing hard working people. This is a sign of preparing him for presidency position if he perform in this onerous task, of which i know he will not disappoint.

Fashola my mentor, carry go

@Soft777, i am impressed with detailed explanation you've given to my questions particularly in the area of feed attractant. From what i deduce is that most farmers waste lot of money trying to get the right formula by over saturating their feed with high protein contents that is not necessary for growout catfish. As a shrewd farmer, effort should be made to reduce cost of feed so as to increase profit

WombRaiders:
shatap.

I am here to debunk all the rubbish myths you yorubas have appropriated to yourselves.

Ok we don hear, hope that will stop you from crying

Why starting a beautiful day with a tribal thought, time wait for no one engage in productive venture rather than all this nonsense i-beta-pass-you mindset

robonski15:
We recently purchased two hatchery water heater and rechargeable 14 air-stone for constant aeration, in case of power failure.
Our Hatchery will be well equipped for producing quality seeds..




Men are currently working on site, digging up the nursery ponds. We will be constructing 60 earthen ponds to accommodate all the fries conveniently and enough space to separate the fast growing ones and runts fed to the brood-stock. we are sure of getting the best seeds..

More update soonest

Whaoooo you are indeed a motivator. May God crown your success.

Oga Robonski i await your candid on my question @ soft777

@soft777
1. Please what sort of Fish Meal are you referring to? Is it foreign type e.g Danish that cost close to N30,000 for 50kg or the local Fishmeal that cost half of the foreign one for the same 50kg.

2. What are the additional secret of enhancing the quality of local fishmeal to attain similar crude protein as foreign Fishmeal?

3. What are/is the attractant/s that will increase the palatability of locally made feed?

4. W|hat best time to feed that will guarantee maximum FCR

5. If FCR =1.0, that means to attain 1kg of fish will require 1.2kg of feed or thereabout(having factored feed wastage into the calculation),
a. What shortest month will it require for a fish to consume 1.2kg of feed?
b. How can one manipulate feeding to ensure a fish consume 1.2kg of feed in less than 4months and still maintain FCR of 1.0
c. Is it possible to you to bring the cost of 1.2kg of local feed to N150 presently, and still maintain FCR of 1.0 - 1.2. If yes, give a formula that
can guarantee this

Please dont be offended if you are not comfortable with any of my question because your idea and experience with other professors on this thread is enough for us to design a workable feed formulation template that is cost effective and reduce to the barest minimum importation of any form of feed ingredient in the production of feed.

I look forward to your quick and reliable opinion[/quote]

soft777:
Hmmmm... My advice for fish farmers here dont go buying every ingredient u see in every ones formula ..i have seen people paste formula containing maize, indomie and cassava flour together.....some containing molasis and flour together ... and some containing .. palm kanel cake and cotton seed cake together...Well i want us to know that, in fish and other animal production , is all just about converting one form of protein as in feed to another form of protein as in our fish product . So we should always try to make sure the cost of feed protein is not costlier than the actual fish itself, or else, we run at a lost . there are no stories about it ... How can we use maize indome and cassava flour together ..this is wrong, cause they are all starch, i mean carbohydrate its same nutrient , they all give to your fish . Its like eating eba ,fufu , and amala they may taste different ,but , they give same starch or energy to the body so why waste money buying 3 different ingredient with same end product .As a business man or profit making fish farmer , just check out of the 3 ingredients the one that is cheapest in your loccality and use it ...They practically give the same. Important is all other factors are done well like feed quality quantity , time of feeding to get the best fcr , temperature and water quality . its same result lets not break our heads over formula lol........... What we should do is that , ,both 3 ingredients are good , so as wise fish farmer we will compare the 3 prices in our locality cause feeds varies in prices depends on, what your locality have in bulk and see which is cheapest per kg and use it. Dont just mix every ingredient in the feed mill because u see mr A doing it and so you want to do the same .One ingredient to serve a source of nutrient is ok ... so dont use molasis and flour both are good binding agent dont use pkc and cotton seed cake they are both source of oil : use only the cheapest one nutrient source at a time ..it will reduce your cost of production. Why do u think some people buy fingerlings from same source and 1 person makes profit and the other finish all his money making ambigious feed , there by finishing there profit on feed .. We replace fish meal with soya meal and other source of protein because of the high cost of fish meal but we cant replace fish meal 100 percent cause there source are different ...fish meal is animal protein while soya is plant protein .. They are not totally thesame; thats why we use both fish meal and soya meal together . Soya can reduce the use of fish meal but not totally . Its still good to leave some percentage fish meal in your feed composition... like me , if i tell you in some stage of my feed production i dont use fish meal at all but i balance the animal protein with another cheaper animal protein and i get same result .Some people will raise eye brow and ask if its possible but yes very possible, its just to add what is called an attractant, a topic for another day stay tuned i will give the continuation of my write up 10pm today GOOD LUCK ...

1. Please what sort of Fish Meal are you referring to? Is it foreign type e.g Danish that cost close to N30,000 for 50kg or the local Fishmeal that cost half of the foreign one for the same 50kg.

2. What are the additional secret of enhancing the quality of local fishmeal to attain similar crude protein as foreign Fishmeal?

3. What are/is the attractant/s that will increase the palatability of locally made feed?

4. W|hat best time to feed that will guarantee maximum FCR

5. If FCR =1.0, that means to attain 1kg of fish will require 1.2kg of feed or thereabout(having factored feed wastage into the calculation),
a. What shortest month will it require for a fish to consume 1.2kg of feed?
b. How can one manipulate feeding to ensure a fish consume 1.2kg of feed in less than 4months and still maintain FCR of 1.0
c. Is it possible to you to bring the cost of 1.2kg of local feed to N150 presently, and still maintain FCR of 1.0 - 1.2. If yes, give a formula that
can guarantee this

Please dont be offended if you are not comfortable with any of my question because your idea and experience with other professors on this thread is enough for us to design a workable feed formulation template that is cost effective and reduce to the barest minimum importation of any form of feed ingredient in the production of feed.

I look forward to your quick and reliable opinion

soft777:
If your problem of mass mortality is not water, and not weather then definately its the feed . For best water quality for newly hatched fries, maintain 7 to 7.5 ph and water between 28 degree and 30 degree...Also check if your water has ions ..if it does have ions your fries will die For hatchery business u need take your water to the lab for good analysis of your water before comencing fish hatchery orelse u just waste your hard earn money ...Solution to that is, to get an ion reduction chamber :: Its just a drum with silica sand in it just like the type mr robonski showed us ... to take care of the ions in your water you flow your water from your water source throug the drum of silica sand down to your vat ... For weather problems , using indoors does not guarantee temperature is ok, always check your water temperature at least 3 times a day . to ensure its ok ...if u want i can teach u an effective way to keep your water temperature constant . Because rapid change in temperature can also give u mass mortality ... If the artemia is the problem you can culture your own artemia i can also elaborate on it if u are intrested or u can use this simple but very effective method . Boil an egg take the yolk out and take a little bowl of water not up to a litre of water , squeeze the egg in a clean white handcarchief and dip it in the bowl of half litre. for few minutes
After u see its well dissolve . dip ur hand in the bowl take the mixture of egg yolk and water and sprinkle it in your vat you will see the 3 day old fries coming up to feed on them ... that way no fear of bad adoltrated artemia u can feed them this way for 6 to 7 days before introducing the 0.2 mm coopens . they will grow very well....If u have any area you dont understand , then ask will try to elaborate GOODLUCK:::

1. Can you please explain the process of removing iron from water using that stated method above.

2. What is silica sand? Where it's being sold?

Victory at last

With all the gra gra PDP senators and the supporting wailers, they shamefully swallow their pride and confirm him. What happen to piles of petitions and counter petitions?. Whom God has chosen let no man condemn.

Thank God is Friday, hope we are all taking our catfish business to permanent site like Oga Robonski is presently doing. @ Robonski, We are all proud of you for being one of few people that shares information without demanding for kobo. May God continue to increase your strength.

The above vat pics gives me idea of how piping of vat can be done to reduce stress of siphoning and ensuring the bottom of pond remain clear of dirty, provided its not going to stress the fries.

Now to my questions:
1.Does the size of broodstock affects the growth rate and growth attainment of the seed? In order word, will a broodstock of say 1kg be able to breed catfish that will grow up to 2-2.5k within a generally acceptable period?.

2. Does is not mean that a broodstock that could not attain 1.2kg in 1year lack the capacity to breed seed that could surpass its parents in growth within six [6] months?

Please, i need detailed explanation from my experienced bosses. Thank you.

Eye service governor always playing to the gallary

Ttalk:
Please i need urgent response from my esteemed boss on the followings:

1. How many KG of Female catfish will comfortably produce 25,000 fries, and how many KG of male catfish will be needed

2. What size of vat[s] will accommodate 25,000 fries

3. What size of nursery[s] will be appropriate to raise 25,000 fingerlings

NOTE: I presently use 1 industrial tank as my vat and intend to buy another two [2] for the nursery

Please my Ogas in the house, your opinion is highly needed here to guide my performance on my new hatchery. Oga Robonski, Ab1x, Excellessor, Aquadude, Ayosat, Lagbaja, and other experienced gurus in hatchery should please answered these questions

Please i need urgent response from my esteemed boss on the followings:

1. How many KG of Female catfish will comfortably produce 25,000 fries, and how many KG of male catfish will be needed

2. What size of vat[s] will accommodate 25,000 fries

3. What size of nursery[s] will be appropriate to raise 25,000 fingerlings

NOTE: I presently use 1 industrial tank as my vat and intend to buy another two [2] for the nursery

Afrika011:
good morning everyone in the house. Big up for all the bosses in he house; i need a well clarifying answer on these question.

1.What do I stand to loose or gain if i decide to feed my fishes with floating feed throughout thee cycle (cost and weight wise)
2.What is the average cost of feeding 1 catfish to attain 1 kg
3.Where in Abeokuta and its environ can i get a reliable feedmill to formulate my local feed?

1. By your definition of floating feed, you mean pelleted industrial feed such as, coopens, multifeed, Zeigler, and Durantee, Aquafeed, Vital feed that are produced by foreign and local feed manufacturers for farmers.
The advantages include:
a. Minimal wastage
b. Reduce water pollution
Disadvantage:
a. Expensive compare to locally made feed
b. Formula is constant and cant be manipulate by farmer
c. Some locally made feeds perform better than most imported feed

2. Budget 1.2kg feed @ N320

3. People around Abeokuta will be of help, you can as well contact Ab1x

gebest:
K

K for King

collinsVP:
B

B for Booking

Dosinspector:
1)When Buhari said he will appoint ministers in september,He neva said the year,why the fuse
2)Buhari said the list will come in batches and yesterday he released the 1st batch which is petroleum minister and by doing so he has beat the september deadline,so wait patiently for other batches

By the way he has appointed the head of the ministers- Buhari the Coordinating Minister of the Ministers CMM