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Religion / Re: "God Is Not A Magician" : A Dubious Cop-out. by TVSA: 10:33pm On Oct 26, 2019
Phillips disappeared and reappeared in the bible and Jesus walked through walls. Made me remember "Now you see me " grin grin

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Politics / Re: Femi Fani-Kayode To Gowon: Can't Celebrate Man Who Presided Killing Of 3M Biafra by TVSA: 9:09pm On Oct 25, 2019
Ikechunna:


Incompetence is Niggerian problem. Never seen people with so much little knowledge talking trash. Do not compare Gowon actions to other nations. The examples you have is undeliberate consequences. Gowon own was deliberate. Gowon took that choice because he couldn’t defeat the Biafrans soldiers. Due to Nigeria was having more military casualties, they decided in order to subdue Biafran military, they should target their unarmed civilians. In fact, in one of the books I read from Alabi Islama (unfortunately can’t remember the name currently), they intentionally avoided check points areas they believe Biafran soldiers are located at to enter the civilians were. If there aren’t many soldiers in that town, they’ll attack and mostly focus on the unarmed civilians. That’s why Biafra had more civilian casualties than military while Niggeria had more military casualties. Gowon policy was not only cowardly but it is indeed war crimes. There’s no if, and, or but, about it.
Are you OK? talk of incompetence, and you're the one saying nonsense. What's the "undeliberate consequences" in Bombing Japan? They didn't have allies, again. Germany had already surrendered; Japan's navy was almost vanquished; its islands were blocked by the ally navy ; and its cities were undergoing concentrated air strikes. The war was already over, the bombs on civilians were unwarranted. Besides, the two cities bombed had more civilians than military personnel. And you think what Gowon supposedly did (according to Alabi something ) is worse than that?
Everything you said about Gowon was speculation. Where did he say soldiers should target civilians?

In wars, you count the cost before engaging. If you're not strong enough for your enemy, quickly surrender. Don't later seek sympathy for the consequences of your ego. Civilians die in every war. It's inevitable. That's why each side should seek to avoid war.

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Politics / Re: Femi Fani-Kayode To Gowon: Can't Celebrate Man Who Presided Killing Of 3M Biafra by TVSA: 1:04pm On Oct 25, 2019
DeeMain:


Committing genocide against a group you intend to integrate back into your fold and form a great One Nigerian nation is wisdom according to you.

Do war crimes, crime against humanity and genocide even mean anything to you?

Bookmark this space man. One day you will realize you spewed utter rubbish today and take it all back.

Why are you vexing? I told you I didn't support war, didn't you read that? or you didn't see it? Why are you blaming only one side? So, Ojukwu and his boys were angels, the soldiers killed them without them doing anything?

Why are you shouting genocide up and down? Google Union blockade by Abraham Lincoln and learn. Blockade is a strategy to win wars. Why didn't the US accuse Abraham Lincoln of war crimes too?

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Politics / Re: Femi Fani-Kayode To Gowon: Can't Celebrate Man Who Presided Killing Of 3M Biafra by TVSA: 10:53am On Oct 25, 2019
DeeMain:


Don't even begin to compare war between nations to a civil war. A civil war is a war between brothers and using Japan and Iraq is comparing apples to oranges.

Gowon and co and Nigeria were wrong for targeting civilians, women , children and farms and should apologize genuinely.

I am not supporting war in any way. But when there's war, you can't use civilians for emotional blackmail to coax your enemies. Civilians died too during American Civil War now. Why didn't Abraham Lincoln allow the South to separate since civilians were dying? Surrender, you don't want to surrender, you're using your civilians to blackmail the federal government. Why did they go to war in the first place when they knew they were not capable? Both sides were at fault.

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Politics / Re: Femi Fani-Kayode To Gowon: Can't Celebrate Man Who Presided Killing Of 3M Biafra by TVSA: 9:31am On Oct 25, 2019
davillian:

He knew the evils he committed that's why he has given his life totally to God hopping to make heaven.
I was thinking he has apologised and asked for forgiveness before.
He has always been a Christian. His parents were missionaries. Or you thought he was a muslim? grin grin grin

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Politics / Re: Femi Fani-Kayode To Gowon: Can't Celebrate Man Who Presided Killing Of 3M Biafra by TVSA: 9:06am On Oct 25, 2019
davillian:

Civilian casualties is something that must happen in a war but deliberately targeting women and children (civilian)is war crimes weather you like it or not.....
That's the point ffk is trying to make...
There were lots of war crime committed by the Nigerian army and nobody was punished for it...
That's how war is everywhere. Harry S Truman bombed Japan twice and killed thousands of civilians. No one was trialed. George Bush Jr declared war in Iraq without concrete evidence, and thousand civilians died and he's walking free today. I'm not moralizing what the soldiers did o. But Gowon had no choice. He had to defend his country. He's a soldier for Christ sake.

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Religion / Re: If You Still Believe In The Story Of Adam And Eve by TVSA: 5:15pm On Oct 23, 2019
The Genesis 4 story was badly written. Vs 17-24 talked about generation of Cain. Then vs 25 abruptly jumped back to Adam having another son after Abel.
Religion / Re: Does Bad Deeds Always Have Repercussion? by TVSA: 6:28am On Oct 23, 2019
hakeem4:

You made a claim that when we die we would face judgement. My question is how did you know?
from the buybull
Religion / Re: The Church Is A Scam by TVSA: 2:35am On Oct 23, 2019
RedCreme21:
I don't doubt you.

What color is Lucifer?? Red or black??
Does he have fangs and dagger sharp nails.
Heard he carries a giant fork or perhaps a spear.

LUCIFER is a playboy who lives in Los Angeles with very beautiful wings.
Politics / Re: Second Niger Bridge Suffer Setback As Host Communities Demand For "Entitlements" by TVSA: 10:11am On Oct 21, 2019
madenigga:

Black's mostly Yoruba. Is another way for saying Nigerian's mostly Yoruba's in this context.

My pikin go school
how do you know they are Yoruba's? Did you ask each of them? You made unfounded claims based on hearsay and I am the one that is supposed to go back to school.
Politics / Re: Second Niger Bridge Suffer Setback As Host Communities Demand For "Entitlements" by TVSA: 6:35am On Oct 21, 2019
madenigga:

If u look at construction of lagos ibandan rail line. You would notice that most of the workers are blacks, mostly Yoruba's.

But come to the 2nd Niger bridge from what I have read they say they use labour force from other regions, north and west in particular. While the indegenes are in a minority. According to local content law it should not be so.

They are nor asking for what is not there's all they ask is the company do what is right.

only Yorubas are black in Nigeria? lol.

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Religion / Re: *Objects Of Fiction, Imaginary Things Atheists Believe In* Since They Reject God by TVSA: 8:20pm On Oct 18, 2019
orunto27:
Atheists are superstitious period. And they are scared of Witches.
undecided
Religion / Re: Creationists Explain These Facts About Ensatina by TVSA: 5:39pm On Oct 14, 2019
Obviously, Noah carried them both into the ark. angry grin
Religion / Re: This Is The Right Time For All Atheists To Have Perfect Belief In God by TVSA: 5:35pm On Oct 14, 2019
Abdulgaffar22:


Many things like what are eternal ?

If many things are eternal, then they have to retain their ORIGINAL characteristics. But nothing in the universe retain its original characteristics. Everything in the universe keeps changing. Even the
universe itself is expanding and the fundamental particles will undergo DECAY with the passage of time. This implies that many things are not eternal but they were brought into existence when a gravitational singularity suddenly undergo big bang explosion 13.8 billion years ago.







many gods mat have been eternal. That's what I mean
Religion / Re: Why Did Noah Curse Canaan And Not Ham? by TVSA: 7:44pm On Oct 12, 2019
LordReed:


I am just hearing this interpretation for the first time. So Ham boinks his naked father and instead of cursing Ham he curses Canaan?
Seeing someone's unclothedness is used many times as euphemism for bleeping in the bible

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Religion / Re: This Is The Right Time For All Atheists To Have Perfect Belief In God by TVSA: 7:41pm On Oct 12, 2019
Abdulgaffar22:



Honestly, it is very difficult to grasp the message you're trying to pass across.

Well, let me just answer you the way I understood your points

My statement which says "something is always eternal" and my statement which says "something can never come out from absolutely nothing" do not defeat each other because it is the something which is always eternal that brought the OTHER things into existence. Therefore, other things were not caused to exist by absolutely nothing. Other things were rather caused to exist by that very something that is always eternal.


And many things could've been eternal working together. Why your insistence on only "SOMETHING" being eternal?

Abdulgaffar22:


Science has proved that many things were brought into existence 13.8 billion years ago during the period of big bang explosion. Therefore, Greek mythology failed completely because many things are not eternal. They began to exist 13.8 billion years ago






how did big bang preclude many things being eternal? Where did eternity of an entity come in the big bang? Explicate how big bang support one eternal entity.

By the way, you're the one confusing me. You believe big bang now, that the world started 13.8 billion years ago? or you just want to use it to prove your point?
Religion / Re: This Is The Right Time For All Atheists To Have Perfect Belief In God by TVSA: 5:26pm On Oct 12, 2019
Abdulgaffar22:


But SOMETHING must be ETERNAL (i:e always exist without being created by anyone).
Here is the reason; if there is absolutely 'NOTHING' in the long past, then there is no way we can have 'SOMETHING' at this present time because something can NEVER come out from absolutely nothing.
This simply shows that something must be eternal i:e always exist and infinitely old without being created by anyone.

So the SOMETHING that is always "eternal" actually defeated your logic of "something can NEVER come out from absolutely nothing"
or
Many things are actually eternal and they all have their roles. Like Greek mythology grin grin grin
Religion / Re: Why Did Noah Curse Canaan And Not Ham? by TVSA: 5:20pm On Oct 12, 2019
Someone once said Ham bleeped his father grin grin
Religion / Re: 10 GREAT Reasons Why You Should Be An Atheist Now In 2019 by TVSA: 5:13pm On Oct 12, 2019
Born2Freak:



Apparently, this your therapy by belief in god is a failure. I say this because many Christians do commit suicide. Just last week, a pastor committed suicide as reported by the news.

But knowing you, you will close your ears and lie that Christian's dont commit suicide by definition.

Shame




no true Scotsman, it's their way to deny their own.

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Religion / Re: The Worst Moment In Atheists Life. by TVSA: 11:59pm On Oct 06, 2019
what do you mean by nobody to thank? undecided undecided
Religion / Re: How Possible Is It To Get A Job Tru Juju by TVSA: 4:36pm On Oct 01, 2019
juju ko reggae ni
Religion / Re: Where On Earth Is The Biblical Garden Of Eden Located? by TVSA: 8:16pm On Sep 30, 2019
Ibeju Lekki
Religion / Re: Theists; Why Are You All Egoists And Especially Arrogant People ? by TVSA: 8:04pm On Sep 30, 2019
grin Religious folks are very humble people

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Religion / Re: Do We Really Need To Pray?? by TVSA: 1:22pm On Sep 29, 2019
JhayJoe:
If your father who is imperfect,may forget things could put it as a point of priority to help you without you even asking or knowing then why does our almighty father need us to stroke his ego
I think we are saying the same thing

Religion / Re: Is Seun Trying To Islamize Nairaland? by TVSA: 12:44am On Sep 29, 2019
GreetMe:

And Muslims and atheists don't do so to Christians?

It's even because of this trollings that Muslim topics can reach 2pages sef

NL is a Christian Majority Secular website...take it or leave it!

so you want to troll Muslims but you don't want them to troll you. Majorly, atheists are the ones trolling Christian threads (and Muslim threads too, even with the oath caveat), not Muslims. I hardly see any thread created by a Muslim to criticize the Christian faith.

Who made nairaland a majority Christian website?

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Religion / Re: Do We Really Need To Pray?? by TVSA: 12:26am On Sep 29, 2019
My earthly father didn't treat me like that. I didn't have to beg him before he fed me or pay my school fee. These were his responsibilities, I didn't have to remind him.

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Religion / Re: Who Created God? by TVSA: 9:47pm On Sep 28, 2019
jamesid29:
After going through the thread, I would like to suggest to Mr shadeyinka, if you can, to take the high road and let the conversation die a natural death. I may not agree with you on some of the statements you have made but any honest person reading this thread would agree that the people you're engaging with really do not understand the subject matter well enough to make and follow through with meaningful counter claims. All we can see is half baked counter claims sprinkled with mockery,name calling and assertions of superior intellect.

It's mind boggling to have a statement like this

In the same post, a statement like this is made:


I could be wrong but I personally don't see any reason to continue the conversation.
I don't get what you're trying to say. Is it the grammar or what?
Romance / Re: What Is With All These Naija Girls And Tattoos All Of A Sudden? by TVSA: 9:32pm On Sep 28, 2019
chukzyfcbb:

those fall into the 10%.

I am not fond of going back and forth on a topic here, most of y'all deep down know this shii so wrong, but to seem "woke" and assume to be the modern man you will do things contrary to your conscience.

Deep down most of these readers will not let any of thier kids get Tatted if they had the way. But to assume an aura of being sophisticated or seen as a Modern man/woman they lie to themselves that Tattoo isn't bad after all, just to Garner public sympathy and likes.

To each his own. Peace!
If your Body is worth meaning to you, you wouldn't destroy it with Ink

Oga, there's nothing modern about tattoo. Tell us what's bad with tattoo, you came up with what you feel. How's tattoo modern when our ancestors had it even before the whites came? Ancient civilizations like China, Eqypt, Samoa have tattoos as part of their heritage. I don't know why people think it's a new thing. Some old yoruba women have tattoo. Sorry, you didn't give any cogent reason why tattoo is bad.
By the way, tattoo doesn't destroy skin. I don't know where you got that from.

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Romance / Re: What Is With All These Naija Girls And Tattoos All Of A Sudden? by TVSA: 8:26pm On Sep 28, 2019
chukzyfcbb:

I am talking about Captains of industry, and you are mentioning David Beckham and Neymar.Mentioning Entertainers who are pressured to do things to please fans.

I guess our level of foresight is on different pedestal
So those guys are now pressured to please fans, what an excuse? grin grin grin. Why didn't they do other things that are in vogue today to please fans? Maybe turn gay or become a vegan to please fans undecided undecided. Jack Patrick Dorsey and Justin Trudeau too are entertainers trying to please their fans. Winston Churchill, Theodore Roosevelt were trying to please fans too.

What do mean by "your level of foresight"?

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Romance / Re: What Is With All These Naija Girls And Tattoos All Of A Sudden? by TVSA: 7:55pm On Sep 28, 2019
chukzyfcbb:

Tats make you look crass.

There is level of unseriousness you harbour when you move visibly with a tattoo.

Look around you and mention people of repute, you will find out that 90% of them don't have tats.

Turn on your TV and watch the movers and the shakers of our industry, the captains and head honchos talk in the board room, nearly or none with a Tat (atleast one that's visible).

Even in the modelling world, you can't be on the runway with a visible Tats!

I mean if you take your body To be a Lambo, why scratch it with an INK.

There are other ways to stand out fashion wise, Tattos are for low IQ people. QED!


These are just your assumptions. Call it "what I think". How does tattoo automatically mean someone has low IQ? you've taken your conservatism to a whole new level. There's no unseriousness associated with tattoos. Tattoo is part of some native cultures, my two grand mothers have tattoos, one has on her neck, another has one her hand. Does this mean they're not serious or they have low IQ?
A notorious criminal might not have tattoo and a civil person might have. Stop thinking like a policeman in Nigeria.
David Beckham, Justin Trudeau, Emma Watson, Jack Patrick Dorsey, Lionel Messi, Neymar, Ramos and many other footballers all have tattoos. I guess they're all low life with low IQ.

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Romance / Re: What Is With All These Naija Girls And Tattoos All Of A Sudden? by TVSA: 7:16pm On Sep 28, 2019
iPrevail:


We keep saying that, "mind your own business..". Just look at where it has brought us as a country. Bruh, if something is bad, or there's any possibility it will make what was good become bad, we need to be very vocal against it.
Enough of the business minding!
how's tattoo bad?

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Romance / Re: What Is With All These Naija Girls And Tattoos All Of A Sudden? by TVSA: 7:15pm On Sep 28, 2019
Aidejay:
if u as a lady draw tattoo on your body, you are the cause for all the problems in this country. From Boko Haram to corruption to Ebola to poverty to bad roads to epileptic power supply to inflation infact you will not find a husband and a job because finding a husband and a job will make Nigeria all of a sudden better than Europe and North America. Nigeria will become the greatest nation in the world sotey we go colonize the whole of Africa and Asia and north America and Mars and Venus. By drawing that tattoo u have opened the door to bad things to start happening to Nigeria, bad things like child marriages, infant maternal mortality, bad governance, oppression of the poor and weak, malaria virus, flooding, tanker explosion, kidnapping, bombings, farmers and hearders clashes e.t.c such things are because of WOMEN are drawing tattoo

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