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simpleseyi:
He thinks government is buying and selling of fake products. Check what is going on in the most advanced country on the planet.

Meanwhile, JAGABAN, watch yourself, this loans don dey too much

I hope you know that the UK budget and GDP surpasses Nigeria by far. Bringing UK borrowing as a defence or example for Nigerian borrowing is really ignorant and stupid

nairalanda1:
Yeah, because APC has kept the economy on oyel. Result is that budgets get underfunded because of chronic low oil prices, plus massive debt servicing

In 2025, the budget was based on the idea that oil would be at least 75 dollars per barrel. Oil was between 58-70 dollars per barrel. And even at 75 dllars per barrel we was gooing to borrow 13 trillion naira. How easy would it have been to fund the budget? Borrowing, and the painful thing is that we cannot borrow all the money we need.

That's why we cannot bring back subsidy. Doing that is going to kick up borrowing massively.

The current price of oil is much higher than the budget benchmark. We should have a surplus and not be borrowing

lordm:
Don't get me wrong, everyone would choose hospital.
Nobody wants to die young when you are enjoying life

this is a false dichotomy. He prays, he sees a doctor. It is both/and not either/or

lordm:
The hospital vs religion.


He chose hospital and science
Make your deductions

Catholics began the hospital system in Europe. What is he choosing between? Religion vs the services Religion established?

psalmsjob:
So in your gullible thinking, you think he could have hidden the fact that he is going to have surgery or under going surgery in this social media age? The pictures will be all over the socail media before he even finish the surgery and you might be a Catholic wheteas i can never be so delusional to be a Catholic but i don't think you know much about the papacy more than me. Before the internet, i have read books and be following the papacy since the the time of pope john Paul the 1st and the controversis of his assassination. So just be doing the sign of the cross and observing the stations of the cross jehely. some of us know what actually goes on in the vatican vaults.

If he refuse to say it, you won't know. Access to the pope is exclusive, it won't even show up in social media

FSBoperator:
A priest can not go on sabbatical .

He arranged with his bishop to suspend him so he can contest and protect his flock with political power.

The only issue here is that Onyaiken is not happy with the good Reverend's political alignment.

Well, my original post states clearly that Alia must resign from any engagement he was involved in so as to concentrate as being an executive governor .

There is no arrange anywhere. That is what you dont understand. By entering into politic he committed a derelict according to Canon law and the penalty is suspension! He didn't arrange he was punished

Can. 285 §1. Clerics are to refrain completely from all those things which are unbecoming to their state, according to the prescripts of particular law.

§2. Clerics are to avoid those things which, although not unbecoming, are nevertheless foreign to the clerical state.

§3. Clerics are forbidden to assume public offices which entail a participation in the exercise of civil power.



Can. 287 §1. Most especially, clerics are always to foster the peace and harmony based on justice which are to be observed among people.

§2. They are not to have an active part in political parties and in governing labor unions unless, in the judgment of competent ecclesiastical authority, the protection of the rights of the Church or the promotion of the common good requires it.



So as you can see, the bishops refused to grant him permission, instead they suspended him

FSBoperator:
So why is Onyaiken crying now?

I didn't hear him "crying", he was asked a question in an interview about Alia and he responded clearly that Alia was suspended for entering into politics. As simple as ABC

FSBoperator:
If Reverend Alia was openly supporting Giringori and Onyaiken was calling for his suspension, we both know that Onyaiken and not Reverend Alia would have been the one being insulted by your obidients.

Cardinal Onaiyekan is not "Calling for his suspension". Alia has already been suspended, he was suspended May 2022 when he went to pick form to contest. His suspension has nothing to do with Peter Obi, he contravened Canon law when he went into partisan politics

tinsel:
His Eminence cannot suspend anybody. He expressed his opinion though I am against him getting too deep into politics as a Catholic. He is not even the highest ranting Catholic presently in Nigeria as he is retired. The highest ranking Catholic in Nigeria is presently His Eminence Peter Okpaleke, the Catholic Archbishop of Ekwulobia in Anambra State

who is Okpaleke where Onaiyekan is? You dont know there are ranks even among cardinals?
Alia has been suspended by his bishop.

Lithiumite:
Is Alia the first clergy to hold political office in Nigeria, even from same Catholic faith,we had Gov Rufus Ada George from same Benue state amd he had similar issues during his time,also jolly Nyame of taraba state was also ofnthe clergy.

Its a church matter we all agree and the church as every right to sanction any part of ot as it deems fit......however cardinal Onaiyekan on the other hand has so blurred the sanctity that separates the murky waters of politics from the pulpit........his supposed elder statesman status and has been badly tainted to making it impossible to portray him as he is claiming to be.

There is no taint there. Onaiyekan simply told you the fact, by taking active part in partisan politics Alia injured canon law and was suspended by his bishop

FSBoperator:
Alia has no choice .

A governor is expected to resign and relinquish all his previous professional position and roles held before he was sworn in.

I am even sure the Rev got the bishop to suspend him from his role as a catholic priest

He didn't "get the bishop to suspend him", Alia was suspended in accordance with canon law which states that priests who engage in partisan politics are to be suspended.

FSBoperator:
The constitution mandates that all democratically elected executive office holders from the President , VP , Governors , Deputy Governors down to Local Govt Chairmen must resign from any private profiting or paid professional roles once they are sworn into office.

Onyaiken ranting that Governor Alia has been suspended from carrying out his duties as a Catholic Reverend holds no water as the constitution of Nigeria - which remains supreme and above even the Catholic church mandates that Reverend Alia should temporarily relieve himself of being a Catholic priest and to concentrate on governing Benue state which he is now a governor.

Onyaiken can rant all he likes about Alia being suspended by the Bishop superior but the fact remains that the good Reverend - while forever still remaining an ordained priest unless excommunicated by the Pope and Pope alone - has by constitutional mandate since relieved himself from performing mass.

Note that Onyaiken's declaration of Alia being suspended by his Bishop superior only translates to the Reverend being forbidden to carry out mass.

So onyaiken can be rest assured that after the good Reverend completes his tenure , Reverend Alia will be returning back to the church to perform mass .

Alia was suspended even before he won the election so i dont know what you're talking about here. He was suspended May 2022

FSBoperator:
Unfortunately for you and your errant cardinal, only the Pope can excommunicate the good Reverend and according to Catholic doctrine , the good Reverend has not committed any grave offense to warrant such.

I even saw one of you lying here that the Reverend has a secret family in the US.

There's no limit to your slander .

The dear Alia stands suspended and has been so since 2022

Judemarco31:
Funny enough that you are totally ignorant of what you are arguing about, I tried to put you through but you are still taking it maybe because the Rev. Father is an APC governor. His suspension process didn't start today, he has been given enough time to do the needful but he couldn't meet up till this year Catholic Bishops decided to sanction him. My brother keep sentiment aside first, let's tell ourselves the truth. The Rev. Father you are trying to protect knows the truth in all of this but he chose to play stubbornness.

If you have been following the political journal of Rev. Father Hyacinth, you will understand that he disobeyed the process. The last grace that was given to him was due this year before they sanctioned him. I'm not a Rev.Father but I'm privileged to have a cousin as Rev. Father that's how I got these information on how they operate.

Remember, Rev.Father Hyacinth after his political career still have the opportunity to preside in the Holy Masses. Go and ask questions before you start arguing ignorantly on some issues.

Alia was suspended 20 May 2022. His suspension is 4 years old

FSBoperator:
Why are you guys just remembering this aspect of being a priest ?

You didn't condemn the Reverend when he joined partisan politics, secured a platform, contested and won and later got sworn in as governor.

You only remembered this aspect because the good Reverend is not in any way aligned to your Giringori presidential ambition


Tueh!

He was suspended the moment he entered politics. Just say you're ignorant of what happened

FSBoperator:
See whose talking.

You guys insulted a Reverend father who appealed to you guys to stop insulting every other candidate and their supporters.

What Christian are you that you will insult a Reverend father for calling on you to be tolerant and respectful of other people's constitutionally guaranteed democratic rights ?

When father Mbaka was abusing his pulpit from 2014 up till 2019 why did this your onyaiken or whatever not condemn Mbaka ?

Mbaka was suspended? Or you new or something?

FSBoperator:
See whose talking.

A Reverend father from the SE called for decorum and tolerance from among the obidients towards other candidates and their supporters and he was insulted to high heaven for simply calling on Obidients to behave themselves.

This cardinal is obviously highly partisan and he is the one attacking a serving democratically elected governor because as a fellow Catholic priest, Rev Alia is not supporting Onaiyekan's anointed Giringori.


The cardinal is the one who is abusing his frock and should stay out of politics .

Alia was suspended! Even Alia's bishop did not support his foray into politics. The Catholic Church was not in support of it. Is that news to you? Or you suddenly became alert because +Onayekan mentioned it?

seunmsg:
Which nonsense cardinal who was bounced from voting at the last papacy election? He is just a bitter old hag who is desperate for political power in Nigeria. No one takes that joke of a man seriously any longer.

You bounced him? You guys have jokes

MartinCorridon:
Go and live in Saudi Arabia.

Then write what he wrote too.

You will be cured of the same disease he has. The STUPiDiTIS disease. Trust me , they will

The joy you get in the murder of others is rather sad. You guys aren't beating the stereotype

HacheNoire:
Where does Catholics and Anglican fall in your description?

Because, if a catholic or Anglican should join the discussion, they will also have points to nullify your stance.

Its a Gnostic text. Not Catholic or Anglican

No they dont

Mrexcell:
Bini people also claim their progenitors fell from the sky like ododuwa

Azazyel:
Answer this: is there a church in Iran?

yes

JASONjnr:
If it isn't biased, let the bishop declare no tithe and no offering. Since they know that people are suffering, they should stop collecting the little money from the people.

There is someone in the bible who thought this idea made sense. His name was Judas and Jesus rebuked him for it

JASONjnr:
They were listened to..... The main reason you heard this news is because the president had a meeting with them and heard their biased statements.

The country isn't in a mess and there are policies that is put into place.

It's not been easy with everyone and there's nobody that's enjoying at the moment but we are hoping that the reforms will set things right at the appropriate time and you don't expect overnight miracles.

So it is baised to say that the country is bleeding or that there is poverty in the land?

The OP videoed a small part of the road that was done. People still spend a whole day on that road

ElevationD:
Benin - Auchi road is a major road connecting Edo and Kogi states. That road traverses the front of Senator Oshiomole’s home and community Iyamho, enroute and terminating in Okene. A few days ago, Senator Oshiomole lamented the horrible state of that road, including other such major roads in Edo and Delta states, as he called out Mr. Umahi.

Was the road built in the last one week?
Can OP give an honest answer as an APC man?

I passed this road last month.

You are videoingthe small part that was done.

From Benin to Iruekpen is terrible.
The road passing Ekpoma was touched,
Huge stretch between Ekpoma and Irrua is bad, the driver had to use the Illeh road, you went to video the small section that was done.
Between Irrua-Ewu-Agbede-Aviele-Auchi is also terrible, sometimes it is so bad that people spend a whole day on that section of the road. Divers literally have to go through Owan to avoid that road.

Please dont come here and deceive people

blamingthedevil:
Omo, see the Benin - Auchi Road built by President Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

Omo, see the Benin - Auchi Road built by President Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

And one werey say make I no vote for Tinubu in 2027👇🔥🔥 pic.twitter.com/xCws5G3WiN

— A. Ayofe (@abdullahayofel) August 2, 2026

NewHe:
And after each of the previous visits,do they (Bishops) went on live TV to debate what they discussed with them?

Yes they do
Bishop KAIGAMA went on air to discuss their meeting with Jonathan.

Fortunately Jonathan was receptive of criticism and went on to promise them that he would do his utmost to address the issues raised particularly taking back the territories claimed by boko haram.

This is the first time they meet a president who thinks critique is an attack, they said Nigeria is bleeding he said it is fine, economy is affecting the poor, he said there will always be poor people. People are worried about the neutrality of inec, he said all is fair in politics. In all his response he was defensive when these are glaring issues for the common man

mannobi:
Indeed. Criticism from a known Peter Obi fan. The particular Mr Onaiyekan had shown his bias before now so whatever his point is. It is coming from his bias for his own condidate and not for the nation

in all the pictures you posted not one said he is a Peter Obi fan. What are you talking about

JASONjnr:
You can't comfortably lie to yourself that Obi isn't their preferred candidate. After all, he divided Anambra people along other Christian faithfuls....He made Catholics more powerful and gave them appointments in his government.

The same bishops who distanced themselves from other bishops that supported Tinubu in the last general elections...Now want to have a say and be heard.

Catholic heads are politicians and they played early politics that created democracy. But then, Tinubu is more advan6tgan what they're offering today.

So the bishops should not be heard because they "distanced themselves from other bishops that supported Tinubu in the last general elections"?

Cinephilia:
Seven Nigerians actually. Other four possibly came with other countries or a different institution.
Either ways 5 SEastern stars.
Imagine for a second the Alex guy had not embarked on, publicized and documented this journey.

Nigeria has continued to destory the potential of its human capital with terrible governance and criminal incompetence.
From sports , to education to entertainment.

More than 7 Nigerians.

8 students of Gonzaga jesuit college okija won gold too

vr0xen:
go and read your bible

he who alleges should provide proof.

vr0xen:
your not a Christian because if you are you will know that God courses the children of Israelites

You still haven't shown where God does that.